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Yeah with the incredibly imperfect data in only really having seen a handful of game highlights and highlight reels many of which are a year or more old there isn't a ton you can really know for sure of unless you're way more involved in the high school scene.
Gregorek is exciting because he just seems like a hard nosed do-it-all type guy that you can put anywhere on the field and he'll get the job done. He does however seem to not have a left hand at all.
McCleary is a nice horse on the offensive end with certainly a preference for his left but maybe isn't entirely one handed. Seems to not shy away from the bigger moments as well.
Both of these guys look to be able to shake defenders and get their hands free with strong shots and while on the run. But high school isn't D1 and as discussed there is plenty of talent that was riding the pine last year and being seasoned. This fall should hopefully be exciting.
I thought one of the areas of real progress was the Jay Dyer folder of the kids athleticism/physicality/quickness. He's got his work cut out for him over the next 9 months not only with the new kids, but the younger players who are going to have expanded roles next year potentially. Ayers and Chauvette for example.
Looking at the schedule there's 8 road games and 5 home games if they keep the same opponents. Syracuse should be a road game next year. It was a neutral game this year I think because Syracuse didn't want to play 3 in 4 at homewood after their 2021 home date was cancelled. Having 6 road games against ncaa tournament teams is going to be a real test. I guess for the budget Maryland/Navy/Towson/Loyola all don't require hotel rooms or flights. 9 games potentially in the state of Maryland, nice side perk of being in Baltimore.
Away Denver Towson Loyola Syracuse Navy Michigan Penn State Maryland
Home Georgetown UNC UVA Ohio State Rutgers.
Chauvette is going to be Chauvette. He has that lefty shot and that is pretty much what you get. He isnt a dodger. Can work on his passing, but he is kind of limited player. He is the obvious heir apparent to Degnon. That is his perfect role. That was the big reason I was in this thread prior to the season doubting he would make a big impact as a freshman. Hopkins already had the 25 year old version of him on the team. It is tough to put 2 guys with limited skill sets, albeit a great singular skill set, on the field at the same and maintain balance on offense.
Same used to be said of Degnon. Couldn’t dodge, they said. But Degnon probably had the best dodge of the season for a goal (triple teamed, lost shoe, picked up gb, shot, scored).
Folks said Degnon didn’t have a right hand. But one of his best looking goals was off an alley dodge and a shot with his right hand.
I’m sure Hunter Chauvette can dodge and shoot with his right hand. He may need to develop those skills, but I am sure he can. Those skills never need to become his bread and butter, but he needs to develop them to keep opposing defenses honest. Develop those skills and opposing Ds won’t be able to sit on his left-handed shot or faceguard him. If he works on his dodging and right-handed shot, it will make his set left-handed shot that much more efficient and lethal.
DocBarrister
and if he works even further on dodging aggressively into triple teams, losing the ball and his shoe, getting at least the ball back, and then scoring, hopkins will really have something and chauvette maybe the dodge of the year.
doc, i could not resist.
#drawitupinthedirt
#nothingwrongwithaggressivedodgingintotripleteams
Aggressive dodging goes a long way.
Are you going to tell me the ancient Iroquois and other Native Americans didn’t dodge aggressively?
Lacrosse was described as the first contact sport.
Despite the peacemaking and spiritual intentions of the game, the game itself was quite physical.
The Haudenosaunee name for lacrosse is gajihgwa'ee (gah-jee-GWA-eh), according to Turner. While the name translates a little differently among the Haudenosaunee's six languages, it roughly translates to "they're bumping hips."
"It's the original contact sport," Turner said. "That's how they described [it] because they were constantly bumping hips, trying to knock the ball out of the possessor."
https://www.foxweather.com/lifestyle/la ... saunee.amp
Does that sound like minimally invasive Tulip Ball to you?
So yeah … if a Hopkins player dodges hard into a f*cking triple team, gets pounded, loses his shoe, then the ball, picks up the d*mn ball, shoots, and scores, then I’m going to nod my head and enjoy the whole thing on replay … because that is how the game is supposed to be played.
DocBarrister
classic.
i have no intention of trying to dissuade you of the "aggressively dodging into triple teams is good" mantra. i will note, iroquois, haudenosaunee fields were sometimes a mile long and games lasted for days. not a lot of triple teams.
to chauvette and him dodging hard righty into slides instead of ripping from 12.
During the season, we saw Bauer dodge into a quadruple team (four opposing defenders move towards him) before dishing to a wide open Collison. In another play, Bauer dodged from the wing, with two defenders chasing him and pulling a third from Peshko, who drifted away to receive Bauer’s pass.
It works, but the Blue Jays don’t do it enough.
Collison dodged hard into a triple team and dished to Degnon for the most spectacular assist of the season.
A Denver middie dodged hard against Beau Pederson and then scored while running into a triple team.
Blue Jays know how to dodge hard, they just didn’t do it often enough. Running into triple or even quadruple team is fine as long as you know what to do with the ball and the offensive spacing and positioning is good for a pass or a shot.
Blue Jays underutilized their big middies (not enough dodges) and did too much perimeter passing that did not get the opposing D moving. More aggressive dodging would have gotten the opposing D moving more, making off-ball cuts more effective. Just way too much reliance on guys like Bauer and Ayers. Too much reliance on speed dodges and not enough power dodging.
If anyone thinks Collison should just continue passing the ball to Bauer and setting picks for him … say so here. I think many here believe Collison has first team AA potential. Passing the ball to a teammate guarded by a long pole and setting picks for the teammate is not what a first team AA midfielder does.
Again, I’m not the only one who thinks the Hopkins O is not aggressive enough. QK tagged it “minimally invasive.” And let’s face it … despite the animosity towards Quint, he knows lacrosse better than anyone here.
DocBarrister