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Vestal scores with 8 seconds left and wins 6-5.
Wow.
At one time there were a few WG posters on the old LP board and this one. They gotta be shaking their heads at the WG teams of the last 5-10 years. Guessing this is their first ever loss to Vestal and no doubt, it hurts.
This is what you get after you run your HOF coach (850 career wins) into retirement. Nobody should be surprised. For YEARS they never lost to Baldwinsville either
FWIW Messere was losing the magic at the end and constantly complaining about the kids. His last game was a 17-2 loss to WM in the state final, after which he said that his kids had quit weeks ago.
Then again, maybe he was right about THAT, too! May explain why the Cats have not shown up in a big game since then.
Kids are kids everywhere. Camillus doesn't have worse kids than other towns. Messere gave up.
His team made the state championship in 3 of his last 5 years, winning in 2015. I wouldn’t call that giving up.
I was told he got frustrated because the WG kids were putting club lacrosse before HS. For the longest period the WG kids were playing year round with Messere and avoiding club.
They were still winning, which is what made it look that much worse.
sigh. messere had been there a very long time, obviously. he had been used to having culture set, and of course had to evolve some over the years. i can promise expectations had been set at the beginning of every year, for anyone involved in the program. and also know it had nothing to do with club. winning was a byproduct, not a driver. when his expectations for handling... everything... clashed too much with others' willingness to go along, that was that. and it wasn't one year in the making.
it could've continued to work, but it didn't. and yes, there is still lacrosse culture left and lots of goals in backyards in section 3. and camillus. new coach is off to a decent start.