gymman1031 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 1:57 pmWhat makes you think I believe that? So many legendary coaches in all sports have had top assistants in their respective sports. A program, no matter what, revolves first and foremost around the head coach.
Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
-
- Posts: 2156
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:26 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
-
- Posts: 2156
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:26 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
That may not have been one of Maryland's best offensive units. However, no one can deny that ND's defense had quite a performance against them.
Re: Notre Dame DC Ryan Wellner-Top Current Assistant Coach In The Game?
Last 15 years the median score for ND has been 11.0 -8.9..BigTom5 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 2:51 pm I give the nod to Bernhardt.
It’s Corrigan’s defense, Wellner is just maintaining what he and Bryne developed. I think the Wojcik addition has had more of an impact on the team with how the offense has evolved over the last three years.
What Bernhardt was able to do this year with all the personnel turnover they had was very very impressive.
ND. Only the 2019 defense averaged giving up over 10 goals (10.1). I didn’t include the shortened 2020 season. Only thing that has changed ND’s standing is the offense has now averaged just over 15 goals the last 3 seasons. The defense has not changed
-
- Posts: 5
- Joined: Sat May 25, 2024 5:28 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
Don't forget that Wellner is also the Director of Recruiting and has done a decent job finding some under the radar type guys who ended up becoming All-Americans!
-Dobson was only the #61 player in the class of 2020; ended up being a multiple-time AA
-Ramsey was #87 in the 2021 class; multiple-time AA
-Faison has thus far outplayed his #48 2023 ranking
And from the class of 2025, he already has verbals three top-25s/top-10s; as well as six top-25s in 2026!
In a duel-capacity; he is doing quite well!
-Dobson was only the #61 player in the class of 2020; ended up being a multiple-time AA
-Ramsey was #87 in the 2021 class; multiple-time AA
-Faison has thus far outplayed his #48 2023 ranking
And from the class of 2025, he already has verbals three top-25s/top-10s; as well as six top-25s in 2026!
In a duel-capacity; he is doing quite well!
-
- Posts: 2156
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:26 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
Wow! His resume is even more impressive than I thought!VoiceofReason wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 3:13 pm Don't forget that Wellner is also the Director of Recruiting and has done a decent job finding some under the radar type guys who ended up becoming All-Americans!
-Dobson was only the #61 player in the class of 2020; ended up being a multiple-time AA
-Ramsey was #87 in the 2021 class; multiple-time AA
-Faison has thus far outplayed his #48 2023 ranking
And from the class of 2025, he already has verbals three top-25s/top-10s; as well as six top-25s in 2026!
In a duel-capacity; he is doing quite well!
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
I know I said it earlier, but we want him back in Annapolis (even more so than before). We can say what we want about scheme etc but the numbers speak for themselves, pre ND (Navy etc)and during. Ask around the lacrosse world and you will learn a lot about Coach Wellner, more than those that just tune in on Saturdays or read Inside Lacrosse and Fan Lax.
No need to question and for those that talk about the offense, I believe Coach Wojcik and Garnsey have added a ton of value as well.
No need to question and for those that talk about the offense, I believe Coach Wojcik and Garnsey have added a ton of value as well.
-
- Posts: 2156
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:26 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
Well, let's see what happens with Amplo. Wonder how much more time they will give him to get to the NCAA Tournament?Laxinmay wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:33 pm I know I said it earlier, but we want him back in Annapolis (even more so than before). We can say what we want about scheme etc but the numbers speak for themselves, pre ND (Navy etc)and during. Ask around the lacrosse world and you will learn a lot about Coach Wellner, more than those that just tune in on Saturdays or read Inside Lacrosse and Fan Lax.
No need to question and for those that talk about the offense, I believe Coach Wojcik and Garnsey have added a ton of value as well.
-
- Posts: 861
- Joined: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:34 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
At this rate, he should hang around and take over for Coach Corrigan when he retires. The Navy job comes with a great deal of prestige and resources. I grew up there. But damn, Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They have this thing humming there. As an Irish fan, I hope he sticks it out and gets passed the torch from KC. He would be a rightful heir to the job.
-
- Posts: 2156
- Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:26 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
He very well might do that.LaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:42 pm At this rate, he should hang around and take over for Coach Corrigan when he retires. The Navy job comes with a great deal of prestige and resources. I grew up there. But damn, Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They have this thing humming there. As an Irish fan, I hope he sticks it out and gets passed the torch from KC. He would be a rightful heir to the job.
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
We shall see….timing is everything in life. Guys been at a few great places. Someone will end up with him.
- youthathletics
- Posts: 15858
- Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:36 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
AgreeLaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:42 pm At this rate, he should hang around and take over for Coach Corrigan when he retires. The Navy job comes with a great deal of prestige and resources. I grew up there. But damn, Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They have this thing humming there. As an Irish fan, I hope he sticks it out and gets passed the torch from KC. He would be a rightful heir to the job.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
Of course, the question is how long does one wait for Corrigan to retire? Ask Byrne.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 7:43 amAgreeLaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:42 pm At this rate, he should hang around and take over for Coach Corrigan when he retires. The Navy job comes with a great deal of prestige and resources. I grew up there. But damn, Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They have this thing humming there. As an Irish fan, I hope he sticks it out and gets passed the torch from KC. He would be a rightful heir to the job.
I don't think it is imminent right now.
- youthathletics
- Posts: 15858
- Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:36 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
I believe RW is in a great spot. Two nattys, a coach of 36 years finally with two pinnacle wins. Winning like that, at that age, changes ones mind that they finally did it....and can exhale. I suspect it will not be long.Kismet wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:07 amOf course, the question is how long does one wait for Corrigan to retire? Ask Byrne.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 7:43 amAgreeLaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:42 pm At this rate, he should hang around and take over for Coach Corrigan when he retires. The Navy job comes with a great deal of prestige and resources. I grew up there. But damn, Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They have this thing humming there. As an Irish fan, I hope he sticks it out and gets passed the torch from KC. He would be a rightful heir to the job.
I don't think it is imminent right now.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Bryne takes over once Corrigan hangs it up. He has far more history with the program / Corrigan and a ton of alumni support.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:49 amI believe RW is in a great spot. Two nattys, a coach of 36 years finally with two pinnacle wins. Winning like that, at that age, changes ones mind that they finally did it....and can exhale. I suspect it will not be long.Kismet wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:07 amOf course, the question is how long does one wait for Corrigan to retire? Ask Byrne.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 7:43 amAgreeLaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:42 pm At this rate, he should hang around and take over for Coach Corrigan when he retires. The Navy job comes with a great deal of prestige and resources. I grew up there. But damn, Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They have this thing humming there. As an Irish fan, I hope he sticks it out and gets passed the torch from KC. He would be a rightful heir to the job.
I don't think it is imminent right now.
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
Totally understand that sentiment but would struggle to understand how a current assistant with TWO National Championships at that school would be looked over. Regardless of tenure etc.BigTom5 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:55 amI wouldn’t be surprised if Bryne takes over once Corrigan hangs it up. He has far more history with the program / Corrigan and a ton of alumni support.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:49 amI believe RW is in a great spot. Two nattys, a coach of 36 years finally with two pinnacle wins. Winning like that, at that age, changes ones mind that they finally did it....and can exhale. I suspect it will not be long.Kismet wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:07 amOf course, the question is how long does one wait for Corrigan to retire? Ask Byrne.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 7:43 amAgreeLaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:42 pm At this rate, he should hang around and take over for Coach Corrigan when he retires. The Navy job comes with a great deal of prestige and resources. I grew up there. But damn, Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They have this thing humming there. As an Irish fan, I hope he sticks it out and gets passed the torch from KC. He would be a rightful heir to the job.
I don't think it is imminent right now.
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
Using that logic, why wouldn’t they hand it over to Wojcik?Laxinmay wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 11:18 amTotally understand that sentiment but would struggle to understand how a current assistant with TWO National Championships at that school would be looked over. Regardless of tenure etc.BigTom5 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:55 amI wouldn’t be surprised if Bryne takes over once Corrigan hangs it up. He has far more history with the program / Corrigan and a ton of alumni support.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:49 amI believe RW is in a great spot. Two nattys, a coach of 36 years finally with two pinnacle wins. Winning like that, at that age, changes ones mind that they finally did it....and can exhale. I suspect it will not be long.Kismet wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:07 amOf course, the question is how long does one wait for Corrigan to retire? Ask Byrne.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 7:43 amAgreeLaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:42 pm At this rate, he should hang around and take over for Coach Corrigan when he retires. The Navy job comes with a great deal of prestige and resources. I grew up there. But damn, Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They have this thing humming there. As an Irish fan, I hope he sticks it out and gets passed the torch from KC. He would be a rightful heir to the job.
I don't think it is imminent right now.
The fact that Bryne was there for 16 years (vs 4 years for Wellner/Wojcik), set up the foundation for the defense that the program is built around and Wellner now stewards, made deep connections with 100’s of alumni who all sing his praises, and now has head coaching experience, I don’t think its much of a stretch to say he would be the frontrunner for the job if it opened in the next year or two.
Re: Notre Dame DC Ryan Wellner-Top Current Assistant Coach In The Game?
Thank you, this over-hyping of assistants is comical. The HC set the scheme(s) and the assistants follow his lead. Giving Wellner--or even Byrne--too much credit takes away from the job done by Corrigan.coda wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 2:57 pmLast 15 years the median score for ND has been 11.0 -8.9..BigTom5 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 2:51 pm I give the nod to Bernhardt.
It’s Corrigan’s defense, Wellner is just maintaining what he and Bryne developed. I think the Wojcik addition has had more of an impact on the team with how the offense has evolved over the last three years.
What Bernhardt was able to do this year with all the personnel turnover they had was very very impressive.
ND. Only the 2019 defense averaged giving up over 10 goals (10.1). I didn’t include the shortened 2020 season. Only thing that has changed ND’s standing is the offense has now averaged just over 15 goals the last 3 seasons. The defense has not changed
- youthathletics
- Posts: 15858
- Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:36 pm
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
Wellner’s defense is far different than Byrnes. But I get your point. Maybe Byrne went to Harvard for the sole reason of adding HC to his resume for a wink and nod before leaving South Bend.BigTom5 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 12:33 pmUsing that logic, why wouldn’t they hand it over to Wojcik?Laxinmay wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 11:18 amTotally understand that sentiment but would struggle to understand how a current assistant with TWO National Championships at that school would be looked over. Regardless of tenure etc.BigTom5 wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:55 amI wouldn’t be surprised if Bryne takes over once Corrigan hangs it up. He has far more history with the program / Corrigan and a ton of alumni support.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:49 amI believe RW is in a great spot. Two nattys, a coach of 36 years finally with two pinnacle wins. Winning like that, at that age, changes ones mind that they finally did it....and can exhale. I suspect it will not be long.Kismet wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 9:07 amOf course, the question is how long does one wait for Corrigan to retire? Ask Byrne.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 7:43 amAgreeLaxPundit07 wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:42 pm At this rate, he should hang around and take over for Coach Corrigan when he retires. The Navy job comes with a great deal of prestige and resources. I grew up there. But damn, Notre Dame is Notre Dame. They have this thing humming there. As an Irish fan, I hope he sticks it out and gets passed the torch from KC. He would be a rightful heir to the job.
I don't think it is imminent right now.
The fact that Bryne was there for 16 years (vs 4 years for Wellner/Wojcik), set up the foundation for the defense that the program is built around and Wellner now stewards, made deep connections with 100’s of alumni who all sing his praises, and now has head coaching experience, I don’t think its much of a stretch to say he would be the frontrunner for the job if it opened in the next year or two.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
Re: Notre Dame's Ryan Wellner-Maybe Best Assistant In The Game Right Now?
Now if Corrigan hangs around another 5 years and ND wins another 1-2 NCs my opinion may change on the topic…