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Abr2016 wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 9:00 pm
Laxinmay wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:35 am Congrats to former Navy Assistants
John Tillman
Ryan Wellner
Mike Phipps

Final Four Bound. Make us proud!
Wellner and Phipps were assistants together for a bunch of years. That was when we won the Pat league twice and almost went to final four. The boys loved those two.
yep…players coaches. But Phipps was also handcuffed too often, where players were torn between who’s direction(s) to follow.
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John Tillman- 11 years
Ryan Wellner- 9 Years
Mike Phipps- 3 Years
--------------------------- 2nd longest tenure in modern day lax
Matt Hogan - 10 years
-----------------------------Current Staff
John Orsen- 5 years
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youthathletics wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 10:01 pm
Abr2016 wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 9:00 pm
Laxinmay wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 6:35 am Congrats to former Navy Assistants
John Tillman
Ryan Wellner
Mike Phipps

Final Four Bound. Make us proud!
Wellner and Phipps were assistants together for a bunch of years. That was when we won the Pat league twice and almost went to final four. The boys loved those two.
yep…players coaches. But Phipps was also handcuffed too often, where players were torn between who’s direction(s) to follow.
Off the field was where I was going with this too. They were just what the Mids needed.
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By the way, would there be a finer venue for the Final Four than Navy Stadium if Graduation Weekend weren't the same weekend?
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youthathletics wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 10:01 pm Phipps was also handcuffed too often, where players were torn between who’s direction(s) to follow.
During Phipps first or second stint with Navy, or both ?
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old salt wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 1:21 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 10:01 pm Phipps was also handcuffed too often, where players were torn between who’s direction(s) to follow.
During Phipps first or second stint with Navy, or both ?
First, not too sure about second.
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gymman1031 wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 5:50 pm By the way, would there be a finer venue for the Final Four than Navy Stadium if Graduation Weekend weren't the same weekend?
No this would be the absolute best place!
How about do it the following weekend with them semis on Friday night, women's championship on Saturday with D-2 men's and D-3 men's sprinkled in then Natty on Sunday in downtown Annapolis and open up the tournament to a few more teams with the extra weekend in there.
Plenty of hotels, 25 minutes from major airport great downtown atmosphere!
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Any updated word on the candidates for the OC position?
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U Navy lax alumni probably wish that u had hired Corrado a few years ago instead of Amplo, Mike and Nova used to beat up Marquette when Amplo was the HC & Mike has rolled over Navy the last 2 seasons
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Wow! I promise I won't bring this up after every great Coach Tillman moment. But, after each solid postseason coaching-job he performs, which just happened again against UVA:

1. My desire to have him at Navy someday gets a little greater.
2. My belief of how much a part he was in Navy's special 2024 run gets a little greater, too.
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Magbride14 wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 10:10 pm U Navy lax alumni probably wish that u had hired Corrado a few years ago instead of Amplo, Mike and Nova used to beat up Marquette when Amplo was the HC & Mike has rolled over Navy the last 2 seasons
Amplo / Marquette was 3-3 his last four years vs Villanova. Positive goal differential. Won two Big East championships. Shitkicked a Villanova squad ranked #5 in nation, 11-3 in 2016.

Strange hill you keep trying to die on.
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Don’t forget about the 2 other former Navy assistants playing on Monday

- Mike Phipps and Ryan Wellner

Coincidence? I think not.
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Well Done Coach Phipps.....Finally allowed to be an Offensive Coordinator under one of most empowering Head Coaches in the game.

Amplo is an egotistical maniac that would never empower his Assistant Coaches to this level.

My understanding the OC Pay Band is between 210-230K plus Camps and we cannot select somebody and it's May 26.

Let's GO JOE !
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Laxinmay wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 7:35 am Don’t forget about the 2 other former Navy assistants playing on Monday

- Mike Phipps and Ryan Wellner

Coincidence? I think not.
Absolutely not! Both are tremendous coaches. If there is an opening for the head coach at Navy in the near-future, Tills and Wellner should be the 1 and 2 choices, respectively.
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Agree! More coaches from the Rick Sowell coaching tree! Others are Lars, Dan Chemotti & Ryan Danehy..
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FMUBart wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 1:42 pm Agree! More coaches from the Rick Sowell coaching tree! Others are Lars, Dan Chemotti & Ryan Danehy..
Wow! I wasn't aware of that. Thanks so much for the info!
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FMUBart wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 1:42 pm Agree! More coaches from the Rick Sowell coaching tree! Others are Lars, Dan Chemotti & Ryan Danehy..
Is Lars really a good coach or just the benefactor of great assistants, which means he can identify talent. HIs offense looks like poo this year, and his Defense, as athletic as they were, was rather lacking. I'd also argue his inability to adjust the F/O strategy in the game vs. Terps still trying to win it cleanly vs Wierman was a missed opportunity. Cassese did him no favors by allowing the Terps D to essentially dictate at will on UVA offense. I wonder if he carried that philosophy with him from past leadership? I am sure he misses Sean Kirwan.
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youthathletics wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 9:35 am
FMUBart wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 1:42 pm Agree! More coaches from the Rick Sowell coaching tree! Others are Lars, Dan Chemotti & Ryan Danehy..
Is Lars really a good coach or just the benefactor of great assistants, which means he can identify talent. HIs offense looks like poo this year, and his Defense, as athletic as they were, was rather lacking. I'd also argue his inability to adjust the F/O strategy in the game vs. Terps still trying to win it cleanly vs Wierman was a missed opportunity. Cassese did him no favors by allowing the Terps D to essentially dictate at will on UVA offense. I wonder if he carried that philosophy with him from past leadership? I am sure he misses Sean Kirwan.
I think you have to give Lars credit for being a great coach. That includes recruiting top assistants and empowering them; recruiting great athletes; and establishing a winning culture. Modern head coaches need to run a program and I think he does that superlatively well. Is he still at the top of his game as a defensive X’s and O’s guy? I can’t speak to that. And agree that in year 1 at least the Cassese hire didn’t seem to come up aces.
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TheGoat1999 wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:32 am Well Done Coach Phipps.....Finally allowed to be an Offensive Coordinator under one of most empowering Head Coaches in the game.

Amplo is an egotistical maniac that would never empower his Assistant Coaches to this level.

My understanding the OC Pay Band is between 210-230K plus Camps and we cannot select somebody and it's May 26.

Let's GO JOE !
That salary is insane, if it is true. I don't understand why we haven't gotten someone yet.
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Abr2016 wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 10:20 am
TheGoat1999 wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 8:32 am Well Done Coach Phipps.....Finally allowed to be an Offensive Coordinator under one of most empowering Head Coaches in the game.

Amplo is an egotistical maniac that would never empower his Assistant Coaches to this level.

My understanding the OC Pay Band is between 210-230K plus Camps and we cannot select somebody and it's May 26.

Let's GO JOE !
That salary is insane, if it is true. I don't understand why we haven't gotten someone yet.
The goat1999 uses entirely too much confirmation bias, respectfully. Phipps had the keys to O at Gtown, nothing to write home about. The O at MD was stale, and mediocre at best. A team like the Terps 'should' be playing each memorial weekend.

And yes, I agree TIlls is a great coach and I also agree Amplo has another side.

I wanna see docs on the pay scale...maybe if they are elevated to Associate Coach after a term with incentives and PL honors?

I was going to apply, but they mandated prior College Coaching Experience, they need fresh blood, vision, and an ability to challenge the current staff and their 'system', so much so, they are threatened you are their replacement. I'd implement offense that would have Amplo and Orsen throwing punches with one anther at practice. :lol:
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