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Re: DIII TRANSFER PORTAL ENTRIES

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DJ Dixon- Wesleyan and Will Byrne- Bowdoin both to Michigan, and the two Dickinson players listed above, added.

Albertus Magnus College
SEAN KEENAN

Allegheny College
AIDAN D'AMATO *

Anna Maria College
ALEX WILLIAMS

Arcadia University
WILLIAM BURTON *
MAXWELL HENRY *

Babson College
JARED RAINVILLE *
LEO CHIP QUINN *
SAM KALISHMAN *
TOPHER BOWER *

Bates College
WILLIAM MASTERSON *
JAKE JOHNSON *
ALEX HOROWITZ *
JOHN DAOUST *

Berry College
TYLER FREILICH *

Birmingham-Southern College
CADE SANDERS
NICHOLAS KNISELY
AUSTIN JOHNSON *
WILLIAM FULLER
GRAHAM FERRARO
JOSH TAMARKIN
MICHAEL FOX
NATHAN PEPE
JOSEPH AMATULLI
JONAH POLHEMUS
CAMERON HERD *
MICAH FINOTTI *
CADE MARINO *


Bowdoin College
WILL BYRNE * —> MICHIGAN
OLIVER BERNSTEIN *
NATE RYAN *
SAMUEL HARP LANE *

Cabrini University
PETER HEWITT
BEAR EVANS
GAVIN LENART
GERARD ULATOWSKI
MASON LENART
CORBIN CARRAGHAN
MATTHEW WILLIAMS
CONNOR HERRAIZ
SAMUEL KIRK
DILLON MCMANUS *
JULIAN VARONA
NICHOLAS MORMANDO
WILLIAM EVANS
HUNTER WALDRON
ZACHARY RIEGLER
BRAYDEN SKIPPER
BRETT GOUGLER
MAX MOROSOFF
TOMMY VAUGHAN
MARIO LEONE
SEBASTIAN TOBIAS

Cairn University
COLE HEFFLER

Clark University (Massachusetts)
WILL PETRICK
NICHOLAS SHEVCHENKO

Colorado College
WILLIAM ROBERTSON
CYRIL (STEPHEN) RUFFENNACH *
DYLAN BROWN *
ELI TUROVSKY *

Connecticut College
JASON FASTIGGI
BOBBY CHANG *

Dean College
NICHOLAS RICCI *
JACOB SOCK
KYLE INGRAM *
DIEGO ALVAREZ-SEGEE *
CHRISTOPHER RIVERA *
JADEN WISE

Denison University
CLYDE BRESNAHAN *
NICHOLAS VANCE *

DePauw University
CONNOR GIBSON *
MATTHEW GARRIGAN *

Dickinson College
JOHN MCKEE * —> JOHNS HOPKINS
PAT SCARBOROUGH * —> ST JOHNS

PATRICK SCARBOROUGH *
GRIFFIN MOORE *

Elizabethtown College
GAVIN GISMONDI *
CONNOR STEWART *

Elmhurst University
ANDREW ERISMAN *

Emerson College
JOSH DEMATTOS *
CONNOR NYDEGGER *
BIRK SWAN *
NICK FULGIONE *

Emmanuel College (Massachusetts)
MICHAEL TARDIBUONO *

Franklin & Marshall College
SAGE GARITO *

Greensboro College
RYAN BUCHANAN *
DAWSON MATLOCK

Grove City College
PRINCE AYIVON *
DANIEL STONE *
RYAN LEDERMANN

Guilford College
WAYMAN BROWN
ANDREW SIZEMORE *
ANDREW BURCH *
BASHWYN FITCH

Hamilton College
MICHAEL SCOLERI *

Hampden-Sydney College
THOMAS HARRY *
RAY O'BRIEN *
DREW DUFFY *

Hanover College
ZACHARY STONE *

Haverford College
SEAN MCHUGH

Huntingdon College
GAGE KETTLEWELL

Husson University
OWEN GIORGIO

Ithaca College
JOHN SRAMAC *

Juniata College
BEAUX WOJCIECHOWSKI
BRANDON SIMONINI
AIDEN DURAN *
ALBERT DEFRUSCIO
JUSTIN TONEY *
DANIEL HOOVER *

Keene State College
THOMAS POULIOT *

Keystone College
RYAN SMITH
EDWIN HIMMEL-MAINES
CODY DEMBSKI

La Roche University
ANTHONY GREBINER

LaGrange College
ANDREW BROWN

Lycoming College
PATRICK DWYER *

Marian University (Wisconsin)
RUTGER DOBKE
JACKSON SWEENEY

Marymount University (Virginia)
NICHOLAS MORT
NOLAN BALDUCCI

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
MATTHEW SARDIS

Messiah University
BROCK ROE
JONAH LIBBY *
JAMES MYERS *

Middlebury College
FINN MULDOON *

Misericordia University
MICHAEL KILGALLON *

Moravian University
FRANK BRITSCH

Mount Saint Mary College (New York)
TIMOTHY DOYLE

Muhlenberg College
STEPHEN KRUG *

Nazareth University
QUINN MCKERCHER *

Nichols College
KYLE ETTENHOFER *
NICHOLAS GUALTIERI *

Northland College
RUDY RUEGEMER

Norwich University
MATTHEW MEEHAN *
MASON MCMAHON *

Oglethorpe University
TRAVIS MCDONALD*

Pfeiffer University
DAVIS RUSSELL
TYLER GRANDINETTI
MASON TARDIFF
WILLIAM WOZNIAK
ETHAN MILES
TOBIAS BALLESTER
TRENT ORR
OLUWALABOMI OMOKEJI
JOSEPH JOHNSON

Plattsburgh State University of New York
CAMERON MORIN *

Randolph College
THOMAS STAHLER *

Randolph-Macon College
SCOTT KOSAKOWSKI
CONNOR FRITZ
BRYANT BOWEN *

Rhodes College
ANDREW DOWNES

Roanoke College
DOMINIC CUOMO
DYLAN MCGUIRK

Rochester Institute of Technology
KYLE BURBANK *
MICHAEL GRACE * —> SYRACUSE

Saint Joseph's College (Maine)
TIMOTHY GOODFELLOW *

Shenandoah University
JACOB GREEN
STEPHEN GRAHAM *
MARK ISABELLE *

Skidmore College
KYLE GOODWIN
CHARLIE MCFADDEN *

Southern Virginia University
PORTER WELLS
JAYDON ARNOLD *
JEFFERSON CUTRER
JEX MECHAM *

Spalding University
ETHAN JAHR

St. Lawrence University
ALEXANDER BECHARD *
BENJAMIN HUTCHINSON *
HENRY MURPHY *
ROBERT (TRIPP) CLARK *

St. Mary's College of Maryland
BRANDON DABKOWSKI *
ETHAN LITTLE *

State University of New York at Brockport
TIM HUBBARD

State University of New York at Cobleskill
SEAN D'AMARO *

State University of New York at Oneonta
JESSE ALFANOSTJOHN *

Stevens Institute of Technology
JACK SAVARESE *

Stevenson University
RYAN QUINN *

Stockton University
TYLER HORVATH *

Susquehanna University
JOZEF KORPICS *
JOHN BACHENSKI *
GARRETT LAUB *
JARED TAVERNITE *
MARC MANFREDONIA

Swarthmore College
JACKSON BROSGOL *

Trinity College (Connecticut)
MATTHEW PECORA *
MICHAEL REGAN *
PETER CANNON *

Tufts University
CONNER GARZONE *
KEVIN CHRISTMAS *

Union College (New York)
MATTHEW MCKENZIE
MATTHEW PAOLATTO *
ZACHARY DAVIS *
DANIEL DONAHUE *
MICHAEL SHAW *
JUSTIN GREENE *
NICHOLAS DENAVE *

University of Dubuque
RYAN DOYLE

University of Mount Saint Vincent
JOAQUIN JOHNSON

University of Mount Union
HARRISON WILLIAMS

University of New England
TUCKER TOWNSEND

University of Northwestern-St. Paul
TYLER HEYEN

University of Scranton
RONAN MILLER

Ursinus College
EVAN HANNINGS *
BENJAMIN SCHROEDER *
PAUL ARMY *
JONATHAN SINGER *
MICHAEL DOUGLAS *
VAUGHN DIBATTISTA *

Vassar College
EVAN SARDINA
SOLOMON HESS *

Vermont State University Castleton
HOLLIS JONES

Virginia Wesleyan University
SAMUEL EDWARDS *

Wabash College
ARTIE ROGERS *

Washington and Lee University
SAM MANNINO *

Washington College (Maryland)
THOMAS MERRITT *

Wells College
JAKE STINE *

Wesleyan University (Connecticut)
DJ DIXON * —> MICHIGAN
CK GIANCOLA *
DJ DIXON *

Western Connecticut State University
SEAN MITCHELL *

Wheaton College (Massachusetts)
JACOB WHARTON *

Williams College
RICHARD MACKNIGHT *

York College (Pennsylvania)
NICHOLAS BIAVA
JACKSON SHIELDS
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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SouthieLax wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 11:46 am
Devil4Life wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 11:22 am I will also be happy for the landscape to even out as the Salisburys, Tufts, CNUs and RITs seem to have a fair number of these 5th and 6th year players.
Correction, Tufts has zero 5th/6th year players. In fact they only have 3 seniors who see time, their starting goalie, a third-line middie and a ssdm.
I can think of two that stayed an extra year (but I think there were 1-2 more). Trieber stayed in 21 and Murtha last year.
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Understood, I thought the post was present tense, as in this year’s teams
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SouthieLax wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 11:46 am
Devil4Life wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 11:22 am I will also be happy for the landscape to even out as the Salisburys, Tufts, CNUs and RITs seem to have a fair number of these 5th and 6th year players.
Correction, Tufts has zero 5th/6th year players. In fact they only have 3 seniors who see time, their starting goalie, a third-line middie and a ssdm.
Stand corrected. We love Victor Salcedo and will be rooting for him. Tufts is a great academic institution. Team is incredible. Amazing more of the younger star players do not transfer to D-1 programs.
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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Leonard Washington wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 3:31 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 3:26 pm
pcowlax wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 3:19 pm Most certainly not...
That's helpful. Thanks. I do have to say, watching JHU stay alive with a 5th year AA in goal (who happened to play at the same school that the current head coach used to coach at) felt a little strange. Similar, watching two Princeton transfers help SU a LOT. I dunno. All's fair because every team has the same transfer advantage but I have to say, I miss players being recruited and watching them try to make it happen within their 4 year window.
With the porta (these days)l being a necessity for some as opposed to a curiosity for most when it came about in 2018, the amount of players that are not happy with their situation after one year at a particular institution is always interesting, especially at the (lower) DI and DII level
My post was poorly written- agree that a 6th year should not have been granted. Didn’t RIT’s FOS transfer in from D-1?
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Unknown Participant wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 12:33 pm I can think of two that stayed an extra year (but I think there were 1-2 more). Trieber stayed in 21 and Murtha last year.
Donohue and Eymer also stayed for grad years, I think that’s it though.
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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Devil4Life wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 11:22 am
pcowlax wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 3:19 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 2:57 pm Pre-Covid, correct me if I'm wrong, we didn't have the volume of transfers in NCAA lacrosse like we have now, right? It's like Zoom calls and transfers skyrocketed.
Most certainly not. D3, through some horrific decision making, granted 2! extra COVID years for all players enrolled in 2020. Next year will be the final year this applies (and also for Ivy players due to the pathetic decision by them to cancel their 2021 season for reasons). The asterixis are seniors. After next year, the number of transfers will drop dramatically as a "grad year" will no longer be a thing unless you a) redshirted (does happen and more and more frequently in D1 but nothing like the numbers now) or b) graduated in 3 years. It will make for much more balanced teams as opposed to the uber unbalanced beasts stacked with 5th and 6th year players (ND has 25 seniors and grad students)
Agree with the 6th year extension but for this year’s seniors, they missed their entire senior season. At Dickinson, they attended the first semester remotely with no fall ball and were required to practice in pods of no more than 10 and were not allowed to socialize outside of their pod of 12 teammates. They did not have a freshman year in college. They played 6 games that year and one exhibition. These young men have had 3 years of full seasons. To have the opportunity to play at a top ten D-1 school and earn a degree from a top 20 university is a good choice. Dickinson does not have graduate programs so we did not have any of the 5th and 6th year players to whom you are referring. I will also be happy for the landscape to even out as the Salisburys, Tufts, CNUs and RITs seem to have a fair number of these 5th and 6th year players.
The D-1 team that gets the Union FOS is getting a jewell of a player.
this might be the case. some schools played 10-12 games in 2021. and what about the high school kids. the kids that graduated HS in 2021 missed there junior year. and had a shortened senior year. recruiting was crap. D1 couldn’t watch them person. then they get to college and have to deal with kids that get two extra years of college lax while they get nothing.

the whole process was crap. looking back, everyone missed the 2020 season. there should not have been any extensions at all.
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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pcowlax wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 10:31 am Yes, or at least looking to transfer out. You can still return after placing your name in the portal, though I imagine that could be somewhat awkward at times.
This is the part about the portal, specifically at the D3 level that makes me question the ethics of this list being posted in a public forum like this.

The majority of D3 kids in the portal are in fact putting their name in to see what's out there...maybe they think a coach who didn't recruit them the first time around will reach out, maybe they're thinking about changing majors and need to "re-open" their recruitment to find a suitable home, maybe they killed it in the classroom and want to see if they have more options than they did coming out of high school, maybe there was a coaching change at their school and they're going in the portal because they don't know who the new coach will be. There are so many reasons for a kid to put his name in the portal, but I truly believe the majority never leave there current school.

Now here's the part that I don't think many folks on here know: a player does not need to tell their coach that they are in the portal - and a coach or school administrator (the ONLY people who have access to the portal) cannot see students from their institution who are in the portal. We can debate all day if kids should tell their coaches they're looking for other options or now (I personally think they should) but the portal was designed to be a player empowerment tool and the rules created at the D3 level for the portal were designed to work in similar ways as the old self-release form.

So the awkward moments that the poster above referenced....they really don't have to happen if a kid isn't going anywhere. UNLESS somebody with NCAA login credentials decides to be a message board hero and post the full list of D3 kids (except for maybe kids from the school he works at since he can't see them) and out kids who may otherwise just be testing the waters.

I feel bad for any kid who is in the portal and had his coach or a teammate's dad find out he's in there because of a message board.
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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Laxattackjack wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:10 pm
Devil4Life wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 11:22 am
pcowlax wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 3:19 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 2:57 pm Pre-Covid, correct me if I'm wrong, we didn't have the volume of transfers in NCAA lacrosse like we have now, right? It's like Zoom calls and transfers skyrocketed.
Most certainly not. D3, through some horrific decision making, granted 2! extra COVID years for all players enrolled in 2020. Next year will be the final year this applies (and also for Ivy players due to the pathetic decision by them to cancel their 2021 season for reasons). The asterixis are seniors. After next year, the number of transfers will drop dramatically as a "grad year" will no longer be a thing unless you a) redshirted (does happen and more and more frequently in D1 but nothing like the numbers now) or b) graduated in 3 years. It will make for much more balanced teams as opposed to the uber unbalanced beasts stacked with 5th and 6th year players (ND has 25 seniors and grad students)
Agree with the 6th year extension but for this year’s seniors, they missed their entire senior season. At Dickinson, they attended the first semester remotely with no fall ball and were required to practice in pods of no more than 10 and were not allowed to socialize outside of their pod of 12 teammates. They did not have a freshman year in college. They played 6 games that year and one exhibition. These young men have had 3 years of full seasons. To have the opportunity to play at a top ten D-1 school and earn a degree from a top 20 university is a good choice. Dickinson does not have graduate programs so we did not have any of the 5th and 6th year players to whom you are referring. I will also be happy for the landscape to even out as the Salisburys, Tufts, CNUs and RITs seem to have a fair number of these 5th and 6th year players.
The D-1 team that gets the Union FOS is getting a jewell of a player.
this might be the case. some schools played 10-12 games in 2021. and what about the high school kids. the kids that graduated HS in 2021 missed there junior year. and had a shortened senior year. recruiting was crap. D1 couldn’t watch them person. then they get to college and have to deal with kids that get two extra years of college lax while they get nothing.

the whole process was crap. looking back, everyone missed the 2020 season. there should not have been any extensions at all.
The COVID waivers were a decision from the D3 President's council to try and combat "remote learning flight" - kids leaving school and not coming back. This was specifically a concern at the D3 level where the majority of athletic departments exist to help build enrollment. The fear was that kids didn't want to waste a year of eligibility during a school year with lockdowns, testing and cancelled games looming in the shadows. The President's council decided to allow the 2020-2021 academic year to not count against any student-athlete eligibility; so that students could come back to school "risk free", knowing that no matter what, they could have an extra year.

This was not a concern at the D1 level where athletics are not identified at the President's level as enrollment drivers, thus the extra extra year was given to D3 athletes who were on a roster during the 2020-2021 school year.
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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VTLaxGuy wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:30 pm
pcowlax wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 10:31 am Yes, or at least looking to transfer out. You can still return after placing your name in the portal, though I imagine that could be somewhat awkward at times.
This is the part about the portal, specifically at the D3 level that makes me question the ethics of this list being posted in a public forum like this.

The majority of D3 kids in the portal are in fact putting their name in to see what's out there...maybe they think a coach who didn't recruit them the first time around will reach out, maybe they're thinking about changing majors and need to "re-open" their recruitment to find a suitable home, maybe they killed it in the classroom and want to see if they have more options than they did coming out of high school, maybe there was a coaching change at their school and they're going in the portal because they don't know who the new coach will be. There are so many reasons for a kid to put his name in the portal, but I truly believe the majority never leave there current school.

Now here's the part that I don't think many folks on here know: a player does not need to tell their coach that they are in the portal - and a coach or school administrator (the ONLY people who have access to the portal) cannot see students from their institution who are in the portal. We can debate all day if kids should tell their coaches they're looking for other options or now (I personally think they should) but the portal was designed to be a player empowerment tool and the rules created at the D3 level for the portal were designed to work in similar ways as the old self-release form.

So the awkward moments that the poster above referenced....they really don't have to happen if a kid isn't going anywhere. UNLESS somebody with NCAA login credentials decides to be a message board hero and post the full list of D3 kids (except for maybe kids from the school he works at since he can't see them) and out kids who may otherwise just be testing the waters.

I feel bad for any kid who is in the portal and had his coach or a teammate's dad find out he's in there because of a message board.
Assuming this post is accurate-- that this player info is not only private to the public but also to his own coach-- then this info should not get posted like this. I know, I know, it happens, it will get out, better learn early in life to have these difficult conversations, etc.

Someone help me with these questions--
1. Why bother to put your name in the portal until you are 100% sure you want to transfer? Obviously these top D3 players upgrading to D1 already have been deep in conversations, had transcripts blessed by admissions, etc.
2. But even for a regular player looking to leave school, they must have been in touch with prospective teams for months, right? How easy it for a player in May or June transfer to another college when the normal admissions process is finished?
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VTLaxGuy wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:42 pm
Laxattackjack wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:10 pm
Devil4Life wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 11:22 am
pcowlax wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 3:19 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 2:57 pm Pre-Covid, correct me if I'm wrong, we didn't have the volume of transfers in NCAA lacrosse like we have now, right? It's like Zoom calls and transfers skyrocketed.
Most certainly not. D3, through some horrific decision making, granted 2! extra COVID years for all players enrolled in 2020. Next year will be the final year this applies (and also for Ivy players due to the pathetic decision by them to cancel their 2021 season for reasons). The asterixis are seniors. After next year, the number of transfers will drop dramatically as a "grad year" will no longer be a thing unless you a) redshirted (does happen and more and more frequently in D1 but nothing like the numbers now) or b) graduated in 3 years. It will make for much more balanced teams as opposed to the uber unbalanced beasts stacked with 5th and 6th year players (ND has 25 seniors and grad students)
Agree with the 6th year extension but for this year’s seniors, they missed their entire senior season. At Dickinson, they attended the first semester remotely with no fall ball and were required to practice in pods of no more than 10 and were not allowed to socialize outside of their pod of 12 teammates. They did not have a freshman year in college. They played 6 games that year and one exhibition. These young men have had 3 years of full seasons. To have the opportunity to play at a top ten D-1 school and earn a degree from a top 20 university is a good choice. Dickinson does not have graduate programs so we did not have any of the 5th and 6th year players to whom you are referring. I will also be happy for the landscape to even out as the Salisburys, Tufts, CNUs and RITs seem to have a fair number of these 5th and 6th year players.
The D-1 team that gets the Union FOS is getting a jewell of a player.
this might be the case. some schools played 10-12 games in 2021. and what about the high school kids. the kids that graduated HS in 2021 missed there junior year. and had a shortened senior year. recruiting was crap. D1 couldn’t watch them person. then they get to college and have to deal with kids that get two extra years of college lax while they get nothing.

the whole process was crap. looking back, everyone missed the 2020 season. there should not have been any extensions at all.
The COVID waivers were a decision from the D3 President's council to try and combat "remote learning flight" - kids leaving school and not coming back. This was specifically a concern at the D3 level where the majority of athletic departments exist to help build enrollment. The fear was that kids didn't want to waste a year of eligibility during a school year with lockdowns, testing and cancelled games looming in the shadows. The President's council decided to allow the 2020-2021 academic year to not count against any student-athlete eligibility; so that students could come back to school "risk free", knowing that no matter what, they could have an extra year.

This was not a concern at the D1 level where athletics are not identified at the President's level as enrollment drivers, thus the extra extra year was given to D3 athletes who were on a roster during the 2020-2021 school year.
I'm sorry to say this makes no sense and is far too generous to the school administrations. It is saying the only reason a large number of these kids are in school is to play lacrosse. Without that, they are leaving school so as not to waste a year of eligibility on a messy season. And, once out of the schools' clutches, they would not come back, depriving the schools of their tuitions (for most schools that have to worry about how many kids they have enrolled the tuition is for operating expenses, not building endowment). And thereby, rather than being potentially forced to miss one lax season, which would have been a bridge too far....voluntarily missing the rest of their careers. Right. The schools butchered the medical response to the pandemic, which underlies all of this. They all should have been in school and playing, they all would have been fine, everyone would still have ultimately gotten COVID as we have and maybe Dickinson could have beaten CNU this year. Does that tie up enough posts?
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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VTLaxGuy wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 3:30 pm
pcowlax wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 10:31 am Yes, or at least looking to transfer out. You can still return after placing your name in the portal, though I imagine that could be somewhat awkward at times.
This is the part about the portal, specifically at the D3 level that makes me question the ethics of this list being posted in a public forum like this.

The majority of D3 kids in the portal are in fact putting their name in to see what's out there...maybe they think a coach who didn't recruit them the first time around will reach out, maybe they're thinking about changing majors and need to "re-open" their recruitment to find a suitable home, maybe they killed it in the classroom and want to see if they have more options than they did coming out of high school, maybe there was a coaching change at their school and they're going in the portal because they don't know who the new coach will be. There are so many reasons for a kid to put his name in the portal, but I truly believe the majority never leave there current school.

Now here's the part that I don't think many folks on here know: a player does not need to tell their coach that they are in the portal - and a coach or school administrator (the ONLY people who have access to the portal) cannot see students from their institution who are in the portal. We can debate all day if kids should tell their coaches they're looking for other options or now (I personally think they should) but the portal was designed to be a player empowerment tool and the rules created at the D3 level for the portal were designed to work in similar ways as the old self-release form.

So the awkward moments that the poster above referenced....they really don't have to happen if a kid isn't going anywhere. UNLESS somebody with NCAA login credentials decides to be a message board hero and post the full list of D3 kids (except for maybe kids from the school he works at since he can't see them) and out kids who may otherwise just be testing the waters.

I feel bad for any kid who is in the portal and had his coach or a teammate's dad find out he's in there because of a message board.
Have to agree on the publishing the list point here. But then again, I’ll take this- the whole list being published- versus last year- when InsideRoll used his credentials to trickle out names exclusively from teams he was sour at. Where’d he go anyway? ;)

Reality is, if a player is sneakily trying to put his name out there, and is worried that his coach might see, I can’t see that relationship surviving at all. And I have to believe that the “window shopping” idea doesn’t apply to MOST of the undergrads entering the portal (if it applies to any at all). They want out, of the program and the school. They’re already gone.

I’m intrigued by all these transfers being announced whose names weren’t on the portal list at all. How’s that work?
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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i don’t know if this is completely accurate. it is my understanding that a player must ask the admin/coach to be released from their commitment to the school. and that admin/ coach is the one that enters the player into the portal.
as for the coach not seeing his own players in the portal. i say no way.
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Laxattackjack wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 4:35 pm i don’t know if this is completely accurate. it is my understanding that a player must ask the admin/coach to be released from their commitment to the school. and that admin/ coach is the one that enters the player into the portal.
as for the coach not seeing his own players in the portal. i say no way.
If a player at the Division III level wants to transfer they have two options (essentially). Contact their compliance director and get signed up/put in the transfer portal where every DI, DII and DIII Head Coach has access and can see/contact them. Or get a 30 day waiver from compliance where they can contact any school they choose. If a player goes with the latter, the current head coach will be notified after 30 days. If the player goes with the former, then the players current head coach does not have to be notified whatsoever and may not know their player is in the portal unless administration tells them (which they are not required to do) or another coach at another school which the student athlete is trying to to transfer to contacts them (which does happen).
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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FWIW, re transfers, Ryder Garnsey, an AA and ND's leading scorer as a sophomore, was granted a release from ND to transfer back in 2017. Not sure if there was the 'Portal' back then but Garnsey floated the idea if transferring. Now, if there's any coach who is going to hold a grudge and hold that type of sh!t over a kids head, its Corrigan. I've heard he's screamed at a kid, "I'll sign your transfer papers right now!" in the middle of a game. Well, we all know how that turned out, Garnsey came back to ND, due to some circumstances, and Corrigan welcomed him with open arms.
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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callaxdad wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 5:19 pm FWIW, re transfers, Ryder Garnsey, an AA and ND's leading scorer as a sophomore, was granted a release from ND to transfer back in 2017. Not sure if there was the 'Portal' back then but Garnsey floated the idea if transferring. Now, if there's any coach who is going to hold a grudge and hold that type of sh!t over a kids head, its Corrigan. I've heard he's screamed at a kid, "I'll sign your transfer papers right now!" in the middle of a game. Well, we all know how that turned out, Garnsey came back to ND, due to some circumstances, and Corrigan welcomed him with open arms.
Point to the undergrad’s name on that list who is Garnsey-‘esque, because that’s the guy who is welcomed back with open arms.
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

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ToeDipper78 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 4:04 pm Assuming this post is accurate-- that this player info is not only private to the public but also to his own coach-- then this info should not get posted like this.
I feel like I'm missing something here...how would information about portal entries be so private that a coach/administrator couldn't see it, but easy enough to find that the average person could get the entire list and post it on a public message board? Aren't those two things mutually exclusive?
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ah23 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 8:01 pm I feel like I'm missing something here...how would information about portal entries be so private that a coach/administrator couldn't see it, but easy enough to find that the average person could get the entire list and post it on a public message board? Aren't those two things mutually exclusive?
The "average person" is either a head coach (any NCAA sport DI, on down), in athletics or are in college administration (athletic director, assistant ad, etc) or they know the log in of a particular head coach or administrator.

For example, if Tucker Nelson logs into the transfer portal, it isn't going to tell him who or how many players from Pfeiffer are in the portal (in any sport including men's lacrosse). Administration and compliance are not required to let a coach know (though some have a way of doing so, without being direct) that their players are looking.

Once logged in, I believe it's not that hard to copy and paste it on to fanlax
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Leonard Washington wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 8:24 pm The "average person" is either a head coach (any NCAA sport DI, on down), in athletics or are in college administration (athletic director, assistant ad, etc) or they know the log in of a particular head coach or administrator.

For example, if Tucker Nelson logs into the transfer portal, it isn't going to tell him who or how many players from Pfeiffer are in the portal (in any sport including men's lacrosse). Administration and compliance are not required to let a coach know (though some have a way of doing so, without being direct) that their players are looking.

Once logged in, I believe it's not that hard to copy and paste it on to fanlax
Makes sense, appreciate the explanation! Portal reporting is so open in basically all college sports that I assumed it was public (which...I guess it kind of is in a way).
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Re: DIII TRANSFERS

Post by Superlite »

What does this even mean? It was known why Garnsey wanted to transfer as well as why it didnt work out. He was a talent that couldn't be replaced so he was accepted back...and it worked out for both sides...not that applicable to any situation today
callaxdad wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 5:19 pm FWIW, re transfers, Ryder Garnsey, an AA and ND's leading scorer as a sophomore, was granted a release from ND to transfer back in 2017. Not sure if there was the 'Portal' back then but Garnsey floated the idea if transferring. Now, if there's any coach who is going to hold a grudge and hold that type of sh!t over a kids head, its Corrigan. I've heard he's screamed at a kid, "I'll sign your transfer papers right now!" in the middle of a game. Well, we all know how that turned out, Garnsey came back to ND, due to some circumstances, and Corrigan welcomed him with open arms.
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