All Americans 2024

[camskidamski]

First look at USA Lacrosse Magazine AA:

Some notes…Lyght from ND getting nothing here is very surprising. Kastner at 3rd seems low. Levi Anderson nothing. Jameison (Duke G) thought should at least get HM…

FIRST TEAM

A – Matt Brandau, Yale
A – Pat Kavanagh, Notre Dame
A – CJ Kirst, Cornell
A – Connor Shellenberger, Virginia
M – Graham Bundy Jr., Georgetown
M – Shane Knobloch, Rutgers
M – Evan Plunkett, Army
SSDM – Beau Pederson, Michigan
SSDM – Ben Ramsey, Notre Dame
FO – Justin Wietfeldt, Michigan
LSM – Jake Piseno, UAlbany
D – Kenny Brower, Duke
D – Brendan Lavelle, Penn
D – Ajax Zappitello, Maryland
G – Liam Entenmann, Notre Dame

SECOND TEAM

A – Payton Cormier, Virginia
A – Sam King, Harvard
A – TJ Malone, Penn State
A – Brennan O’Neill, Duke
M – Andrew McAdorey, Duke
M – Jake Stevens, Syracuse
M – Alexander Vardaro, Georgetown
SSDM – Dylan Hess, Georgetown
SSDM – Jackson Peters, Navy
FO – Alec Stathakis, Denver
LSM – Will Donovan, Notre Dame
D – Jimmy Freehill, Denver
D – AJ Pilate, Army
D – Scott Smith, Johns Hopkins
G – Emmet Carroll, Penn

THIRD TEAM

A – Garrett Degnon, Johns Hopkins
A – Louis Perfetto, Boston University
A – Joey Spallina, Syracuse
A – Justin Tiernan, Michigan
M – Max Krevsky, Yale
M – Griffin Schutz, Virginia
M – Mikey Weisshaar, Towson
SSDM – Eli Fisher, Ohio State
SSDM – Grant Haus, Penn State
FO – Will Coletti, Army
LSM – AJ Mercurio, Denver
D – Richard Checo, Lehigh
D – Billy Dwan, Syracuse
D – Cole Kastner, Virginia
G – Michael Gianforcaro, Princeton

HONORABLE MENTION

A – Jacob Angelus, Johns Hopkins
A – Ryan Bell, Providence
A – Michael Boehm, Michigan
A – Aidan Carroll, Georgetown
A – Nick DeMaio, Towson
A – Owen Duffy, North Carolina
A – Owen Hiltz, Syracuse
A – Chris Kavanagh, Notre Dame
A – Michael Long, Cornell
A – Coulter Mackesy, Princeton
A – Morgan O’Reilly, Sacred Heart
A – Ryan Stines, Utah
A – JP Ward, Delaware
A – Dalton Young, Richmond
A – Josh Zawada, Duke
M – Eric Dobson, Notre Dame
M – Hunter Drouin, Colgate
M – Hugh Kelleher, Cornell
M – Michael Leo, Syracuse
M – Lance Madonna, Richmond
M – Devon McLane, Notre Dame
M – Jacob Morin, Army
M – Chad Palumbo, Princeton
M – Adam Poitras, Loyola
M – Charlie Pope, Vermont
M – Cam Rubin, Penn
M – Eric Spanos, Maryland
M – Finn Thomson, Syracuse
SSDM – Chris Bardak, Air Force
SSDM – Brett Martin, Johns Hopkins
SSDM – Andrew O’Berry, Harvard
SSDM – Marquez White, Princeton
SSDM – Casey Wilson, Denver
SSDM – Chase Yager, Virginia
FO – James Ball, Georgetown
FO – Nathan LaLiberte, Bryant
FO – Will Lynch, Notre Dame
FO – Machado Rodriguez, Yale
FO – Luke Wierman, Maryland
LSM – Tyler Carpenter, Duke
LSM – Roy Meyer, Boston University
LSM – Jack Stuzin, Yale
LSM – Ben Wayer, Virginia
LSM – Max Yates, Colgate
LSM – Stephen Zupicich, Villanova
D – Colby Barsz, Towson
D – Jackson Bonitz, Navy
D – Charlie Cave, Brown
D – Chris Conlin, Notre Dame
D – Marcus Hudgins, Ohio State
D – Patrick Morrison, Boston University
D – Colin Mulshine, Princeton
D – Patrick Pisano, Yale
D – Alex Ross, Penn State
D – Jayson Singer, Cornell
D – Beaudan Szuluk, Johns Hopkins
D – Levi Verch, Saint Joseph’s
D – Mason Woodward, Marquette
G – Ryan Della Rocco, Jacksonville
G – Kevin Ellington, Delaware
G – Jack Fracyon, Penn State
G – JC Higginbotham, Bellarmine
G – Chayse Ierlan, Johns Hopkins
G – Matt Knote, UMass
G – Wyatt Knust, Cornell
G – Will Mark, Syracuse
G – Mason Oak, Quinnipiac

[DA/PU]

Coulter Mackesy being HM seems silly. He just had 7 points in Ivy title game being guarded by 1st teamer Lavelle. Agree on Lyght omission. He was one of best defenders I saw all year.

[BigTurn]

Not sure about Kenny brower on 1st team. He got lit up by the Kavs in both meetings and even Spallina took him to the cooker.

Whereas Shawn Lyght, a guy who didn’t even get HM, locked down Shelly in back to back games. Only allowed one goal.

[camskidamski]

Another unintentional problem I have with most AA lists is the skew towards attackman. 27 attackman earned recognition on this list compared to the 22 “close” defenseman. Not a huge gap…but if we are putting 4 A on each team why not 4 D? I know people have to put the ball in the net but guys have to stop them as well.

[viho]

Another unintentional problem I have with most AA lists is the skew towards attackman. 27 attackman earned recognition on this list compared to the 22 “close” defenseman. Not a huge gap…but if we are putting 4 A on each team why not 4 D? I know people have to put the ball in the net but guys have to stop them as well.

There are very few elite close defensemen out there. Early slide and recover defensive schemes make it hard to stand out and take away defensemen are extinct.( to the detriment of the game.)

[hofpride]

HM is a mile long - Turner midfielder from hofstra couldnt make it? !!!

[random observer]

Initial thoughts:
- Weisshaar should be a first team AA.
- Bundy played attack the majority of the year and was Georgetown's third leading scorer. First team status for him is essentially a career achievement award.
- Zupicich as an HM is the biggest snub on this whole list. He and Piseno blew away the competition this year. He should be on the second team.
- Entenmann is terrific, and if you had to draft a goalie for the pros you probably put him at the top of the list. But I don't think there's a credible argument for him to be on the first team over Carroll. Carroll had a significant edge in save percentage (.593 vs. .550) despite seeing 50% more shots in front of a weaker defense. Once again this was a career achievement situation, because Carroll blew him away statistically and in terms of the surrounding personnel.
- also think Fracyon was hard done, and arguably should've been on the second team.
- kind of weird that all the teams have four slots for attack, but not midfield or defense (yeah I know there are LSMs and SSDMs who are nominally those positions)
- Faison deserved at least HM status given he drew the pole and his linemates are on there
- thought Drouin and Palumbo deserved teamer consideration
- individually Kastner is definitely higher than third team, but I don't think he's head and shoulders above the guys who were put over him; feel like he got punished for UVA's late season defensive woes as a team
- all that being said, overall this list isn't terrible

[mdk01]

HM is a mile long - Turner midfielder from hofstra couldnt make it? !!!

Also Ross Scott of Rutgers at attack. Amazing attack group overall, but he was better than most of the HM group

[HopFan16]

HM is a mile long - Turner midfielder from hofstra couldnt make it? !!!

Also Ross Scott of Rutgers at attack. Amazing attack group overall, but he was better than most of the HM group

Lmao no he wasn't. It's not 2022 anymore

[coda]

Initial thoughts:
- Weisshaar should be a first team AA.
- Bundy played attack the majority of the year and was Georgetown's third leading scorer. First team status for him is essentially a career achievement award.
- Zupicich as an HM is the biggest snub on this whole list. He and Piseno blew away the competition this year. He should be on the second team.
- Entenmann is terrific, and if you had to draft a goalie for the pros you probably put him at the top of the list. But I don't think there's a credible argument for him to be on the first team over Carroll. Carroll had a significant edge in save percentage (.593 vs. .550) despite seeing 50% more shots in front of a weaker defense. Once again this was a career achievement situation, because Carroll blew him away statistically and in terms of the surrounding personnel.
- also think Fracyon was hard done, and arguably should've been on the second team.
- kind of weird that all the teams have four slots for attack, but not midfield or defense (yeah I know there are LSMs and SSDMs who are nominally those positions)
- Faison deserved at least HM status given he drew the pole and his linemates are on there
- thought Drouin and Palumbo deserved teamer consideration
- individually Kastner is definitely higher than third team, but I don't think he's head and shoulders above the guys who were put over him; feel like he got punished for UVA's late season defensive woes as a team
- all that being said, overall this list isn't terrible

-Not sure 1st on Weishaar, but definitely 2nd team
- Stevens >>> Bundy
- Goalie, I agree. I think Fracyon got the shaft, because he put in perhaps his worst career in prime time vs Michigan. Poor timing to have a bad game
-Faison deserved better. If Dobson is HM, he should be 3rd team

[mdk01]

HM is a mile long - Turner midfielder from hofstra couldnt make it? !!!

Also Ross Scott of Rutgers at attack. Amazing attack group overall, but he was better than most of the HM group

Lmao no he wasn't. It's not 2022 anymore

Disagree. The fact that he didn't have a lefty finisher to feed, as opposed to '22 and '23, does not diminish his talent,

[Suitcase]

Initial thoughts:
- Weisshaar should be a first team AA.
- Bundy played attack the majority of the year and was Georgetown's third leading scorer. First team status for him is essentially a career achievement award.
- Zupicich as an HM is the biggest snub on this whole list. He and Piseno blew away the competition this year. He should be on the second team.
- Entenmann is terrific, and if you had to draft a goalie for the pros you probably put him at the top of the list. But I don't think there's a credible argument for him to be on the first team over Carroll. Carroll had a significant edge in save percentage (.593 vs. .550) despite seeing 50% more shots in front of a weaker defense. Once again this was a career achievement situation, because Carroll blew him away statistically and in terms of the surrounding personnel.
- also think Fracyon was hard done, and arguably should've been on the second team.
- kind of weird that all the teams have four slots for attack, but not midfield or defense (yeah I know there are LSMs and SSDMs who are nominally those positions)
- Faison deserved at least HM status given he drew the pole and his linemates are on there
- thought Drouin and Palumbo deserved teamer consideration
- individually Kastner is definitely higher than third team, but I don't think he's head and shoulders above the guys who were put over him; feel like he got punished for UVA's late season defensive woes as a team
- all that being said, overall this list isn't terrible

Lots of great points here. Love weisharr also.
And agree that Carroll had better save % than entenman .
But nd regularly ( last 2 seasons. ) holds team below their scoring averages. Someone on that defense has
To be great right ?

[Suitcase]

Also interesting that the 3.4,5 seeds in Tourney barely represented on the top AA teams. Almost like , guys are being penalized for playing team oriented , winning lacrosse.

[BigTurn]

Also interesting that the 3.4,5 seeds in Tourney barely represented on the top AA teams. Almost like , guys are being penalized for playing team oriented , winning lacrosse.

ND’s scoring sheet is a mile long every week and they’re all over this list. There’s definitely no penalty for playing team oriented lacrosse..

[stupefied]

Lyght was the best on ball defender I saw this year .

[Finster]

Initial thoughts:
- Weisshaar should be a first team AA.
- Bundy played attack the majority of the year and was Georgetown's third leading scorer. First team status for him is essentially a career achievement award.
- Zupicich as an HM is the biggest snub on this whole list. He and Piseno blew away the competition this year. He should be on the second team.
- Entenmann is terrific, and if you had to draft a goalie for the pros you probably put him at the top of the list. But I don't think there's a credible argument for him to be on the first team over Carroll. Carroll had a significant edge in save percentage (.593 vs. .550) despite seeing 50% more shots in front of a weaker defense. Once again this was a career achievement situation, because Carroll blew him away statistically and in terms of the surrounding personnel.
- also think Fracyon was hard done, and arguably should've been on the second team.
- kind of weird that all the teams have four slots for attack, but not midfield or defense (yeah I know there are LSMs and SSDMs who are nominally those positions)
- Faison deserved at least HM status given he drew the pole and his linemates are on there
- thought Drouin and Palumbo deserved teamer consideration
- individually Kastner is definitely higher than third team, but I don't think he's head and shoulders above the guys who were put over him; feel like he got punished for UVA's late season defensive woes as a team
- all that being said, overall this list isn't terrible

Lots of great points here. Love weisharr also.
And agree that Carroll had better save % than entenman .
But nd regularly ( last 2 seasons. ) holds team below their scoring averages. Someone on that defense has
To be great right ?

RD is VERY perceptive.

Weishaar deserved first.

[Finster]

Coulter Mackesy being HM seems silly. He just had 7 points in Ivy title game being guarded by 1st teamer Lavelle. Agree on Lyght omission. He was one of best defenders I saw all year.

Mackesy is really talented. There just isn’t enough room on these lists.

[HGK]

Apologize if this was already discussed, but the assignment of attack or midfield AAs has to stop. The days of the classic X attackman are largely gone. The days of the specialist crease attackman are 100% gone. The majority of the game is played above GLE, best attackmen continuously run out of the box to get a SS matchup as we are seeing in today’s first two games. There is 100% nothing wrong with this evolution. Just the accolades need to adapt as well. I’d suggest you simply take the attack and middie number of slots and then award the best offensive players regardless of their official position

[BigTurn]

Apologize if this was already discussed, but the assignment of attack or midfield AAs has to stop. The days of the classic X attackman are largely gone. The days of the specialist crease attackman are 100% gone. The majority of the game is played above GLE, best attackmen continuously run out of the box to get a SS matchup as we are seeing in today’s first two games. There is 100% nothing wrong with this evolution. Just the accolades need to adapt as well. I’d suggest you simply take the attack and middie number of slots and then award the best offensive players regardless of their official position

This very likely results in attackman dominated awards, similar to the tewey.

[HGK]

Apologize if this was already discussed, but the assignment of attack or midfield AAs has to stop. The days of the classic X attackman are largely gone. The days of the specialist crease attackman are 100% gone. The majority of the game is played above GLE, best attackmen continuously run out of the box to get a SS matchup as we are seeing in today’s first two games. There is 100% nothing wrong with this evolution. Just the accolades need to adapt as well. I’d suggest you simply take the attack and middie number of slots and then award the best offensive players regardless of their official position

This very likely results in attackman dominated awards, similar to the tewey.

Fair point.