Notre Dame 2024

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Hooz123 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 1:20 pm It's UVa day today. 13-9, UVa cruises.
Just promise you won’t cry again if things don’t go your way.
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I assume they'll get in based on reputation, but hard to believe UVA has an at-large resume with a loss to ND today. Based on RPI, which I don't think is a great way to evaluate teams, they'd end up with one top ten win against Maryland who got their doors blown off last night and haven't looked competitive against tournament teams (Hopkins/Penn St) recently.
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alecbaldwin wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 2:06 pm I assume they'll get in based on reputation, but hard to believe UVA has an at-large resume with a loss to ND today. Based on RPI, which I don't think is a great way to evaluate teams, they'd end up with one top ten win against Maryland who got their doors blown off last night and haven't looked competitive against tournament teams (Hopkins/Penn St) recently.
reputation has never been one of the primary criteria, but ya never know with the committee.
which 8 teams would you have in in front of them?
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This team so incredibly well coached, balanced, deep, and plays with ground ball hustle that's unmatched. Love watching them.
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Its a wipe out.
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Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
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Laxguy703 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:30 pm Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
His clean snag of Kolsey's btb shot right on crease in first qtr! Amazing.
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Laxguy703 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:30 pm Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
He should win, and has earned Tewaaraton.
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youthathletics wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 pm
Laxguy703 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:30 pm Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
He should win, and has earned Tewaaraton.



At this stage, Entenmann seems like the only candidate who is excelling to the finish line. And not for nothing, but he is a great kid, and the entire lacrosse universe would be ecstatic if he won.

I underestimated this team's character. They play with an edge, a mental and energy advantage that other teams are not matching. It's hard to envision another team rising to the occasion against Notre Dame unless that team has something to prove (UVA?).
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Finster wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:29 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 pm
Laxguy703 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:30 pm Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
He should win, and has earned Tewaaraton.



At this stage, Entenmann seems like the only candidate who is excelling to the finish line. And not for nothing, but he is a great kid, and the entire lacrosse universe would be ecstatic if he won.

I underestimated this team's character. They play with an edge, a mental and energy advantage that other teams are not matching. It's hard to envision another team rising to the occasion against Notre Dame unless that team has something to prove (UVA?).
A team i hadn’t watched much of until just the other night that could have potential: PSU. They looked pretty sharp, and may have some of that scorched earth mentality ND brought to last season after the way their season ended on a flat out wrong call.
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Finster wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:29 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 pm
Laxguy703 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:30 pm Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
He should win, and has earned Tewaaraton.
At this stage, Entenmann seems like the only candidate who is excelling to the finish line. And not for nothing, but he is a great kid, and the entire lacrosse universe would be ecstatic if he won.

I underestimated this team's character. They play with an edge, a mental and energy advantage that other teams are not matching. It's hard to envision another team rising to the occasion against Notre Dame unless that team has something to prove (UVA?).
I agree....they play the game as it was originally intended (except for the flops ;) )...with flow, care free, and confidently. I also believe Wellner is a significant factor in that. He is a great recruiter and has a way of maximizing talent, while they put out the least amount of effort, allowing the game to essentially slow down for them and see what is coming.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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BigTurn wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:35 am
Finster wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:29 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 pm
Laxguy703 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:30 pm Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
He should win, and has earned Tewaaraton.



At this stage, Entenmann seems like the only candidate who is excelling to the finish line. And not for nothing, but he is a great kid, and the entire lacrosse universe would be ecstatic if he won.

I underestimated this team's character. They play with an edge, a mental and energy advantage that other teams are not matching. It's hard to envision another team rising to the occasion against Notre Dame unless that team has something to prove (UVA?).
A team i hadn’t watched much of until just the other night that could have potential: PSU. They looked pretty sharp, and may have some of that scorched earth mentality ND brought to last season after the way their season ended on a flat out wrong call.



I hadn't thought of Penn State, but you could be correct.
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agree with others - Penn State is a handful. If we ranked teams by how they look when they play their A game, I'd have them no lower than 3rd.
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Finster wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 10:00 am
BigTurn wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:35 am
Finster wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:29 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 pm
Laxguy703 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:30 pm Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
He should win, and has earned Tewaaraton.



At this stage, Entenmann seems like the only candidate who is excelling to the finish line. And not for nothing, but he is a great kid, and the entire lacrosse universe would be ecstatic if he won.

I underestimated this team's character. They play with an edge, a mental and energy advantage that other teams are not matching. It's hard to envision another team rising to the occasion against Notre Dame unless that team has something to prove (UVA?).
A team i hadn’t watched much of until just the other night that could have potential: PSU. They looked pretty sharp, and may have some of that scorched earth mentality ND brought to last season after the way their season ended on a flat out wrong call.



I hadn't thought of Penn State, but you could be correct.
…boy was i wrong
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BigTurn wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 10:57 pm
Finster wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 10:00 am
BigTurn wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:35 am
Finster wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:29 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 pm
Laxguy703 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:30 pm Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
He should win, and has earned Tewaaraton.



At this stage, Entenmann seems like the only candidate who is excelling to the finish line. And not for nothing, but he is a great kid, and the entire lacrosse universe would be ecstatic if he won.

I underestimated this team's character. They play with an edge, a mental and energy advantage that other teams are not matching. It's hard to envision another team rising to the occasion against Notre Dame unless that team has something to prove (UVA?).
A team i hadn’t watched much of until just the other night that could have potential: PSU. They looked pretty sharp, and may have some of that scorched earth mentality ND brought to last season after the way their season ended on a flat out wrong call.



I hadn't thought of Penn State, but you could be correct.
…boy was i wrong
Couldn't see the game. Michigan HAD to win. Penn State just had to stay healthy. Is there more to it than that?
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bearlaxfan wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 11:09 pm
BigTurn wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 10:57 pm
Finster wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 10:00 am
BigTurn wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:35 am
Finster wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 9:29 am
youthathletics wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:59 pm
Laxguy703 wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 6:30 pm Entenmann is freaking ridiculous… He has made at least 5 or 6 saves that are easily going on any other goalie in the country. Has made it impossible for UVA to even attempt a comeback.

Best player in the country.
He should win, and has earned Tewaaraton.



At this stage, Entenmann seems like the only candidate who is excelling to the finish line. And not for nothing, but he is a great kid, and the entire lacrosse universe would be ecstatic if he won.

I underestimated this team's character. They play with an edge, a mental and energy advantage that other teams are not matching. It's hard to envision another team rising to the occasion against Notre Dame unless that team has something to prove (UVA?).
A team i hadn’t watched much of until just the other night that could have potential: PSU. They looked pretty sharp, and may have some of that scorched earth mentality ND brought to last season after the way their season ended on a flat out wrong call.



I hadn't thought of Penn State, but you could be correct.
…boy was i wrong
Couldn't see the game. Michigan HAD to win. Penn State just had to stay healthy. Is there more to it than that?
PSU looked like a jv team. After thursday i thought this was a team that could make a MDW run. After tonight i think this is a team that may be lucky to escape the first round.
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Irish favored by 9 over Albany
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alecbaldwin wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 2:06 pm I assume they'll get in based on reputation, but hard to believe UVA has an at-large resume with a loss to ND today. Based on RPI, which I don't think is a great way to evaluate teams, they'd end up with one top ten win against Maryland who got their doors blown off last night and haven't looked competitive against tournament teams (Hopkins/Penn St) recently.
good call, both Maryland and UVA in final 4 beating #2 and #3 teams respectively. Do Maryland and UVA look competitive now? That's why the committee doesn't make decisions like you said above. RPI does matter more than anything. That is the reason Duke is #2 after losing to who they lost to UNC UPENN ect. Its about putting the best teams in the tournament, not just oh VA lost to #1 team #2 Team #3 team now they aren't deserving of being in the field of 16. ND is right now clearly the top of the totem pole by more than a little, but question is can they stay there when they start playing other top teams in the tourney, so far they have obviously had the easiest tournament opponents which they earned by righteously being #1 but all tourney teams now play with absolute desperation, while its nice to win the ACC tourney, it really means little compared to this coming weekend and teams play a little different when they are in the qtrs, semis and the finals. we shall see.....
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cmbtp88 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:16 pm
alecbaldwin wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 2:06 pm I assume they'll get in based on reputation, but hard to believe UVA has an at-large resume with a loss to ND today. Based on RPI, which I don't think is a great way to evaluate teams, they'd end up with one top ten win against Maryland who got their doors blown off last night and haven't looked competitive against tournament teams (Hopkins/Penn St) recently.
ND is right now clearly the top of the totem pole by more than a little, but question is can they stay there when they start playing other top teams in the tourney
uh have you seen their schedule? They beat Maryland once and UVA twice. So I'd say they have proven they can beat the other top teams remaining in the tourney :lol: Sure both are playing much better now than they were before, but I'd say it's really theirs to lose at this point. Not overlooking Denver, I'm actually quite nervous about that defense they have, but they just haven't played them so there's more question marks with that game than whoever they'd play if they advance. Although Vegas has them as a heavy favorite (-5 last I checked)
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azim21 wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 9:35 am
cmbtp88 wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 6:16 pm
alecbaldwin wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 2:06 pm I assume they'll get in based on reputation, but hard to believe UVA has an at-large resume with a loss to ND today. Based on RPI, which I don't think is a great way to evaluate teams, they'd end up with one top ten win against Maryland who got their doors blown off last night and haven't looked competitive against tournament teams (Hopkins/Penn St) recently.
ND is right now clearly the top of the totem pole by more than a little, but question is can they stay there when they start playing other top teams in the tourney
uh have you seen their schedule? They beat Maryland once and UVA twice. So I'd say they have proven they can beat the other top teams remaining in the tourney :lol: Sure both are playing much better now than they were before, but I'd say it's really theirs to lose at this point. Not overlooking Denver, I'm actually quite nervous about that defense they have, but they just haven't played them so there's more question marks with that game than whoever they'd play if they advance. Although Vegas has them as a heavy favorite (-5 last I checked)
No I know they beat everyone. my point was its the tournament now. For example, ND played VA in VA, they beat them, but it was a pretty close game, VA played them tough, but in ACC tourney, VA didn't play them tough, VA was pretty banged up later in the season so I dont think in ACC tourney they left it all out there....I think for ex if they were to meet again, it would look more like the first game than the second...I didn't mean to insinuate ND might not be able to play with the tough teams, they obviously beat all of them...except Denver I guess.....
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