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Re: Cornell 2024

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drunkmonkey30 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:44 am
CU88a wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:25 am
coda wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:39 am
drunkmonkey30 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:35 am
coda wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:03 am
CU88a wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 9:59 am If Cornell is top seed and hosting, why are they playing in the 2nd game on Friday?
They are the main act. Yale Princeton is the opening act. That is the way it almost always goes.
Do you think the talk around championship weekend and the early game winner having an advantage is overblown?
I am just saying this pretty much standard operation to keep people in the stands. You dont put the headliner first
ECAC hockey finals always has #1 seed playing first game. Which makes sense to me, as they are the presumptive favorite, and then the winner of this game gets to see the following game and view their next opponent in action.
Perhaps I'm making it up, but a swear that Q&K spent a lot of time talking about what an advantage it is to play the first game. Get to see your opponent and 3+hours of additional rest, even with the day off in between. Wondering if the stats back that up.
Tillman was squawking about playing the late game when Maryland was often the #1 seed.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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Gobigred wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 4:27 pm
drunkmonkey30 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:44 am
CU88a wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:25 am
coda wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:39 am
drunkmonkey30 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:35 am
coda wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:03 am
CU88a wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 9:59 am If Cornell is top seed and hosting, why are they playing in the 2nd game on Friday?
They are the main act. Yale Princeton is the opening act. That is the way it almost always goes.
Do you think the talk around championship weekend and the early game winner having an advantage is overblown?
I am just saying this pretty much standard operation to keep people in the stands. You dont put the headliner first
ECAC hockey finals always has #1 seed playing first game. Which makes sense to me, as they are the presumptive favorite, and then the winner of this game gets to see the following game and view their next opponent in action.
Perhaps I'm making it up, but a swear that Q&K spent a lot of time talking about what an advantage it is to play the first game. Get to see your opponent and 3+hours of additional rest, even with the day off in between. Wondering if the stats back that up.
Tillman was squawking about playing the late game when Maryland was often the #1 seed.
The issue was scrutinized in 2022 when undefeated Maryland played the late game in the semis. It was made bigger when the early Cornell-Rutgers game was repeatedly delayed by lightning. Maryland overcame the "issue"and won on Monday.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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Potential bid stealers winning this evening - Villanova and Michigan. Not good. This is why I don't like these tournaments. Teams like Denver and JHU laying an egg in early May only cost bubble teams bids, not themselves.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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Chousnake wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:45 pm Potential bid stealers winning this evening - Villanova and Michigan. Not good. This is why I don't like these tournaments. Teams like Denver and JHU laying an egg in early May only cost bubble teams bids, not themselves.
Last second tying goal for Denver waved off...crease violation.
Hop going down 10-7 with 2 min left.
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Nova tops Denver. Not good!
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Denver screwing Cornell twice this season now.
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Just like our hockey team took care of business in Lake Placid, we need to take care of business in Ithaca so that any bid stealers become someone else’s problem.
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AQ or bust?
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Re: Cornell 2024

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faircornell wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:38 pm AQ or bust?
No, I still think a W in the semis puts us safely in, and a L still isn’t completely fatal. Should root for Georgetown and anyone but Michigan in those tournaments now.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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Chousnake wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:42 pm
Gobigred wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 4:27 pm
drunkmonkey30 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:44 am
CU88a wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:25 am
coda wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:39 am
drunkmonkey30 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:35 am
coda wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:03 am
CU88a wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 9:59 am If Cornell is top seed and hosting, why are they playing in the 2nd game on Friday?
They are the main act. Yale Princeton is the opening act. That is the way it almost always goes.
Do you think the talk around championship weekend and the early game winner having an advantage is overblown?
I am just saying this pretty much standard operation to keep people in the stands. You dont put the headliner first
ECAC hockey finals always has #1 seed playing first game. Which makes sense to me, as they are the presumptive favorite, and then the winner of this game gets to see the following game and view their next opponent in action.
Perhaps I'm making it up, but a swear that Q&K spent a lot of time talking about what an advantage it is to play the first game. Get to see your opponent and 3+hours of additional rest, even with the day off in between. Wondering if the stats back that up.
Tillman was squawking about playing the late game when Maryland was often the #1 seed.
The issue was scrutinized in 2022 when undefeated Maryland played the late game in the semis. It was made bigger when the early Cornell-Rutgers game was repeatedly delayed by lightning. Maryland overcame the "issue"and won on Monday.

That storm during the semi game was responsible for a tremendous (yet unexpected) mid game tailgate for many!
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semsox wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:55 pm
faircornell wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:38 pm AQ or bust?
No, I still think a W in the semis puts us safely in, and a L still isn’t completely fatal. Should root for Georgetown and anyone but Michigan in those tournaments now.
PSU is smoking Maryland. I assume that a PSU victory is generally good for the Big Red?
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semsox wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:55 pm
faircornell wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:38 pm AQ or bust?
No, I still think a W in the semis puts us safely in, and a L still isn’t completely fatal. Should root for Georgetown and anyone but Michigan in those tournaments now.
Win the Ivy tournament and get into the other side of the bracket from Penn State and ND
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Denver lost but still will be in. Better if Georgetown loses now (down now 11-9 to Providence) so if Big Red fails to deliver tomorrow Georgetown would still be behind us for At Large.
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CU 73 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:08 pm Denver lost but still will be in. Better if Georgetown loses now (down now 11-9 to Providence) so if Big Red fails to deliver tomorrow Georgetown would still be behind us for At Large.
I'm still not sure about this. Before today's games, Big East had 1 definite lock (Denver) and one bubble team (Georgetown). If Georgetown loses, they have 2 definite locks (Denver + AQ) plus Georgetown still on the bubble (though I admit a Providence loss dings their resume significantly).
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CU 73 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 10:08 pm Denver lost but still will be in. Better if Georgetown loses now (down now 11-9 to Providence) so if Big Red fails to deliver tomorrow Georgetown would still be behind us for At Large.
@ Inside Lacrosse, game is tied in Q4.

Maryland is losing big to PSU: 7 to 16 in Q4.
According to NC$$, MD ranks 7 in RPI, and Cornell ranks 9. I don't know if a MD loss to PSU will put them behind us, but I bet we still have to beat Penn to pass MD.
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Georgetown takes it in OT.

PSU crushing the Terps.
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GT was #11 in RPI, and Prov. was 36. I'm not sure how much this victory raises GT's RPI. (But the game might cause Prov's coach to move across town -- see the Brown 2024 discussion.)

Since Denver lost, the BE will likely be a 2-bid conference: the AQ & Denver.

If we're lucky, the B10 will be at most a 3-bid conference: the AQ (either PSU or Michigan -- let's hope it's PSU), JHU, and perhaps MD. If Michigan is the AQ, add PSU & JHU and maybe MD, depending on how we do this weekend.

Just win, baby!
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Now if Villanova wins AQ is it possible for BE to take three spots when today began it was thought only one. Could Georgetown beat out Cornell with 1-1 BE tourney record vs. Cornell 0-1. Georgetown's 1-1 vs. two > 20 ranked teams not too impressive vs. Cornell 0-1 against 16th ranked Penn so perhaps not.
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RPI after today's games:

1. Notre Dame 0.6972
2. Duke 0.662
3. Johns Hopkins 0.6579
4. Syracuse 0.6546
5. Virginia 0.6404
6. Denver 0.634
7. Penn State 0.6315
8. Maryland 0.6307
9. Cornell 0.6227
10. Yale 0.6132
11. Georgetown 0.6108
12. Penn 0.6023
13. Princeton 0.5917
14. Army West Point 0.5917
15. Michigan 0.5915
16. St Josephs (PA) 0.5901
17. Towson 0.5701
18. Villanova 0.5699
19. Ohio State 0.5675
20. Boston University 0.5611

Of the 8 teams ahead of us, only one (PSU) can get an AQ.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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CU 73 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 11:04 pm Now if Villanova wins AQ is it possible for BE to take three spots when today began it was thought only one. Could Georgetown beat out Cornell with 1-1 BE tourney record vs. Cornell 0-1. Georgetown's 1-1 vs. two > 20 ranked teams not too impressive vs. Cornell 0-1 against 16th ranked Penn so perhaps not.
Villinova was #22 in RPI. I'm not sure how much the win over DU will raise it. But if GT > V, I don't think V gets in. OTOH, if V > GT, then GT's RPI will drop, and if we lose to Penn, I think we still beat GT by the skin of our teeth.

Last time out, GT beat Vill 12-4. GT has 2 impressive wins: Penn & ND. We have 3: Yale, Pr, & Syracuse. We both lost to DU.
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