2024 top 20

[NYlax222]

Too many folks focused on 'best win'. With UVA, their losses - many of them close - are to the top four ranked teams (as another poster pointed out). They are a very good team, flawed (like most), and nobody will want to face them in tourney. Who, and how, you lose is as important to me as wins.

Tough to compare teams. as on example, Watched Cornell play super well (and take advantage of worst ND D performance in years) to push ND to limits. Equally, lose by 11 to PSU? Regardless of seeding, this tourney will be chaotic.

[Gobigred]

Too many folks focused on 'best win'. With UVA, their losses - many of them close - are to the top four ranked teams (as another poster pointed out). They are a very good team, flawed (like most), and nobody will want to face them in tourney. Who, and how, you lose is as important to me as wins.

Tough to compare teams. as on example, Watched Cornell play super well (and take advantage of worst ND D performance in years) to push ND to limits. Equally, lose by 11 to PSU? Regardless of seeding, this tourney will be chaotic.

Maybe "the worst ND performance in years" was caused in a substantive way by its opponent. This over-the-top worship of ACC teams grows old.

[10stone5]

I personally thought that was Cornell’s game and ND was fortunate to pull it out,

my money right now is on an ND Cornell Final.

[ICGrad]

Too many folks focused on 'best win'. With UVA, their losses - many of them close - are to the top four ranked teams (as another poster pointed out). They are a very good team

Agreed, but they have one single quality win.

If they lose to ND in the first round of the ACCs, they'll have beaten Maryland and...UNC? Ohio State? Michigan (actually a good, though not great, win).

Curious if the committee looks past the RPI (and the pedigree) and has the balls to leave them out. Sure, no bad losses, and they have the Maryland win, but is that enough to get them in? If so, they're this years Hopkins, in because of SoS more than anything else.

[coda]

Too many folks focused on 'best win'. With UVA, their losses - many of them close - are to the top four ranked teams (as another poster pointed out). They are a very good team, flawed (like most), and nobody will want to face them in tourney. Who, and how, you lose is as important to me as wins.

Tough to compare teams. as on example, Watched Cornell play super well (and take advantage of worst ND D performance in years) to push ND to limits. Equally, lose by 11 to PSU? Regardless of seeding, this tourney will be chaotic.

I think everyone gets that. The issue would be 4 straight losses. I have a hard time saying anyone that ends the season with 4 straight losses deserves to be in the tournament. They have end up beating 1 tournament team in Maryland. Committee may feel difference, but they may have 1 win vs a tournament team in Maryland and 4 straight losses doesnt scream tournament team to me

[faircornell]

The People's Lacrosse Network (who obviously don't read Joe Willie) have Cornell at #13 behind Towson and Yale ... Both Towson and Yale are great squads. Quite a year of party.

[coda]

The People's Lacrosse Network (who obviously don't read Joe Willie) have Cornell at #13 behind Towson and Yale ... Both Towson and Yale are great squads. Quite a year of party.

My model has Cornell at 8 and Yale at 11. My model can not factor in the injuries at Yale right now. Personally, I think they are back half of the 20 type team currently. That will change if they get their FOGO back, but nobody knows how that will shake out.

[GaitsRightHand]

IL's Top 20 as of 4/29/2024-

1  Notre Dame (10 - 1)
2  Johns Hopkins (10 - 3)
3  Syracuse (11 - 4)
4  Denver (11 - 2)
5  Virginia (10 - 4)
6  Duke (11 - 4)
7  Maryland (8 - 4)
8  Cornell (9 - 4)
9  Penn State (10 - 3)
10  Georgetown (10 - 3)
11  Army (11 - 2)
12  Princeton (9 - 4)
13  Yale (11 - 3)
14  Saint Joseph's (10 - 3)
15  Towson (11 - 3)
16  Penn (8 - 5)
17  Michigan (8 - 6)
18  Richmond (9 - 5)
19  Delaware (8 - 4)
20  Boston U (8 - 6)

Receiving Votes:
Harvard, Colgate, North Carolina, Jacksonville, UAlbany, Lehigh, Loyola, Utah, Sacred Heart, High Point

[SkipPass]

Denver at #4 seems like a stretch. They aren’t beating anyone in the top 10 in May.

[CU88a]

How does UVA sit @ #5 with three straight losses?

These polls are such jokes, remember that Army was #1 for two weeks in a row and now sit @ #11...

[Finster]

IL's Top 20 as of 4/29/2024-

1  Notre Dame (10 - 1)
2  Johns Hopkins (10 - 3)
3  Syracuse (11 - 4)
4  Denver (11 - 2)
5  Virginia (10 - 4)
6  Duke (11 - 4)
7  Maryland (8 - 4)
8  Cornell (9 - 4)
9  Penn State (10 - 3)
10  Georgetown (10 - 3)
11  Army (11 - 2)
12  Princeton (9 - 4)
13  Yale (11 - 3)
14  Saint Joseph's (10 - 3)
15  Towson (11 - 3)
16  Penn (8 - 5)
17  Michigan (8 - 6)
18  Richmond (9 - 5)
19  Delaware (8 - 4)
20  Boston U (8 - 6)

Receiving Votes:
Harvard, Colgate, North Carolina, Jacksonville, UAlbany, Lehigh, Loyola, Utah, Sacred Heart, High Point

I think this has it correct. Tough year to grade. I have a feeling ND won’t win the Natty.

[coda]

How does UVA sit @ #5 with three straight losses?

These polls are such jokes, remember that Army was #1 for two weeks in a row and now sit @ #11...

My model has UVA #4. Massey has them #2. RPI has them #6. I can say if the futures market has UVA outside the top 5 to win the tournament. I am a buyer. That said I also dont think they deserve an at-large, if they lose 4 straight. Uva is really hard to rank currently.

Duke is another one. Obviously a legit NC contender, but with a propensity to randomly not show up for a game once a month. I do not know how to quantify that.

[BigTurn]

IL's Top 20 as of 4/29/2024-

1  Notre Dame (10 - 1)
2  Johns Hopkins (10 - 3)
3  Syracuse (11 - 4)
4  Denver (11 - 2)
5  Virginia (10 - 4)
6  Duke (11 - 4)
7  Maryland (8 - 4)
8  Cornell (9 - 4)
9  Penn State (10 - 3)
10  Georgetown (10 - 3)
11  Army (11 - 2)
12  Princeton (9 - 4)
13  Yale (11 - 3)
14  Saint Joseph's (10 - 3)
15  Towson (11 - 3)
16  Penn (8 - 5)
17  Michigan (8 - 6)
18  Richmond (9 - 5)
19  Delaware (8 - 4)
20  Boston U (8 - 6)

Receiving Votes:
Harvard, Colgate, North Carolina, Jacksonville, UAlbany, Lehigh, Loyola, Utah, Sacred Heart, High Point

I think this has it correct. Tough year to grade. I have a feeling ND won’t win the Natty.

Never miss a chance to sneak in an ND jab

[LaxAllStars]

QK Top 20 April 29

https://laxallstars.com/quint-kessenich ... 29th-2024/

[coda]

This might be the best poll. Draftkings future odds for the championship

1. ND +250
2. Duke +400
3. Cuse/UVa/Hopkins +700
6. Cornell +1200
7. PSU- +1400
8 Maryland +1600
9. Yale +2000
10. Gtown +2500
10. Denver +2500
12. Richmond/ARmy/Penn +5000

[Chousnake]

Cornell loses to ND by 1 and beats Syracuse and barely moves. UVA loses to ND and Syracuse and solidifies its at large resume.

[FannOLax]

.... Tough year to grade. I have a feeling ND won’t win the Natty.

Never miss a chance to sneak in an ND jab

I'm not sure if that's a jab at ND, or a statement reflecting how difficult it is to repeat as national champions. It's been ten years since anyone has done it, and there are lots of really good teams at the top of the poll.

[GaitsRightHand]

Cornell loses to ND by 1 and beats Syracuse and barely moves. UVA loses to ND and Syracuse and solidifies its at large resume.

Sadly, losses don't count towards anything. I really like Cornell, but this ranking makes sense to me.

Outside of #3 Cuse, Cornell doesn't have a top 10 win. Wins over #12 Princeton and #13 Yale.

Losses to #1 ND, #4 Denver, #9 Penn State, and #16 Penn.

I'd put Penn State above Cornell tbh.

[Gobigred]

Cornell loses to ND by 1 and beats Syracuse and barely moves. UVA loses to ND and Syracuse and solidifies its at large resume.

Sadly, loses don't count towards anything. I really like Cornell, but this ranking makes sense to me.

Outside of #3 Cuse, Cornell doesn't have a top 10 win. Wins over #12 Princeton and #13 Yale.

Losses to #1 ND, #4 Denver, #9 Penn State, and #16 Penn.

I'd put Penn State above Cornell tbh.

Yale is top 10 RPI.

[BigTurn]

.... Tough year to grade. I have a feeling ND won’t win the Natty.

Never miss a chance to sneak in an ND jab

I'm not sure if that's a jab at ND, or a statement reflecting how difficult it is to repeat as national champions. It's been ten years since anyone has done it, and there are lots of really good teams at the top of the poll.

I agree with your statement, and odds are he’s probably not wrong, my comment was made in good fun. This commenter just salivates over ND losing and it cracks me up.

Also UVA technically went back to back in ‘19 and ‘21, though that gets an asterisk.