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Asgot
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Re: CLC 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:55 pm
Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:41 pm
Motorman wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:08 am Moving back to CLC games for first round. Who moves on? Kean, MSU, Stockton, UMW?
I’m going with UMW and Stockton.
I think getting the 3 seed was a big deal this year as MSU has struggled while Stockton, Kean and UMW are all pretty even. UMW wins if they can win a few more faceoffs or make a few more saves. Kean is at home so I am going with them to win by a goal.
They got the 3 seed last year and lost. Just sayin.

Kean should win by 3/4, if everybody is healthy. A lot of the kids had a stomach bug last Saturday.
Different opponent, if it was Kean and Stockton I may agree with you but Kean gets to host UMW
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Re: CLC 2024

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Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:25 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:55 pm
Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:41 pm
Motorman wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:08 am Moving back to CLC games for first round. Who moves on? Kean, MSU, Stockton, UMW?
I’m going with UMW and Stockton.
I think getting the 3 seed was a big deal this year as MSU has struggled while Stockton, Kean and UMW are all pretty even. UMW wins if they can win a few more faceoffs or make a few more saves. Kean is at home so I am going with them to win by a goal.
They got the 3 seed last year and lost. Just sayin.

Kean should win by 3/4, if everybody is healthy. A lot of the kids had a stomach bug last Saturday.
Different opponent, if it was Kean and Stockton I may agree with you but Kean gets to host UMW
My point is Stockton lost at home to Kean, the 6th seed last year. I doubt MSU wins, but you never know.
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Re: CLC 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:42 pm
Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:25 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:55 pm
Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:41 pm
Motorman wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:08 am Moving back to CLC games for first round. Who moves on? Kean, MSU, Stockton, UMW?
I’m going with UMW and Stockton.
I think getting the 3 seed was a big deal this year as MSU has struggled while Stockton, Kean and UMW are all pretty even. UMW wins if they can win a few more faceoffs or make a few more saves. Kean is at home so I am going with them to win by a goal.
They got the 3 seed last year and lost. Just sayin.

Kean should win by 3/4, if everybody is healthy. A lot of the kids had a stomach bug last Saturday.
Different opponent, if it was Kean and Stockton I may agree with you but Kean gets to host UMW
My point is Stockton lost at home to Kean, the 6th seed last year. I doubt MSU wins, but you never know.
While I’m on this thread I’d like to ask a serious question… no disrespect meant - but what’s happened to the MSU program? I knew them as a group of tough nosed Jersey kids who would play you hard for 60 minutes. From a far they seem to be down the last couple years. Anyone agree with that assessment or am I mistaken?
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Re: CLC 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:55 pm
Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:41 pm
Motorman wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:08 am Moving back to CLC games for first round. Who moves on? Kean, MSU, Stockton, UMW?
I’m going with UMW and Stockton.
I think getting the 3 seed was a big deal this year as MSU has struggled while Stockton, Kean and UMW are all pretty even. UMW wins if they can win a few more faceoffs or make a few more saves. Kean is at home so I am going with them to win by a goal.
They got the 3 seed last year and lost. Just sayin.

Kean should win by 3/4, if everybody is healthy. A lot of the kids had a stomach bug last Saturday.
Hopefully that goalie’s tummy is ok, 21 saves on Saturday! He has to be the best player on that team.
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Re: CLC 2024

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Nosey Ned wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:51 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:42 pm
Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:25 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:55 pm
Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:41 pm
Motorman wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:08 am Moving back to CLC games for first round. Who moves on? Kean, MSU, Stockton, UMW?
I’m going with UMW and Stockton.
I think getting the 3 seed was a big deal this year as MSU has struggled while Stockton, Kean and UMW are all pretty even. UMW wins if they can win a few more faceoffs or make a few more saves. Kean is at home so I am going with them to win by a goal.
They got the 3 seed last year and lost. Just sayin.

Kean should win by 3/4, if everybody is healthy. A lot of the kids had a stomach bug last Saturday.
Different opponent, if it was Kean and Stockton I may agree with you but Kean gets to host UMW
My point is Stockton lost at home to Kean, the 6th seed last year. I doubt MSU wins, but you never know.
While I’m on this thread I’d like to ask a serious question… no disrespect meant - but what’s happened to the MSU program? I knew them as a group of tough nosed Jersey kids who would play you hard for 60 minutes. From a far they seem to be down the last couple years. Anyone agree with that assessment or am I mistaken?
They still play a tough brand of lacrosse, but I think they are losing players, local NJ kids, to other schools.
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Re: CLC 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:42 pm
Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:25 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:55 pm
Asgot wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:41 pm
Motorman wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:08 am Moving back to CLC games for first round. Who moves on? Kean, MSU, Stockton, UMW?
I’m going with UMW and Stockton.
I think getting the 3 seed was a big deal this year as MSU has struggled while Stockton, Kean and UMW are all pretty even. UMW wins if they can win a few more faceoffs or make a few more saves. Kean is at home so I am going with them to win by a goal.
They got the 3 seed last year and lost. Just sayin.

Kean should win by 3/4, if everybody is healthy. A lot of the kids had a stomach bug last Saturday.
Different opponent, if it was Kean and Stockton I may agree with you but Kean gets to host UMW
My point is Stockton lost at home to Kean, the 6th seed last year. I doubt MSU wins, but you never know.
I'm leaning towards Stockton and UMW as well. UMW will have to bring their A game, but I think they have it in them to win and keep the team together for one more game.
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Re: CLC 2024

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Nice W’s by Kean and Stockton. Kean wire to wire! Stockton was down 6-0 and win 12-10
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Re: CLC 2024

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LaxDad, please tell Mom and Grandma to leave the cowbells home on Wednesday. They are annoying and not needed.
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Re: CLC 2024

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Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
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Re: CLC 2024

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aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Gulls require all 60 players eat at different locations prior to games.
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Re: CLC 2024

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aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Hamilton beat Tufts...just sayin.

Honestly, it would be next to impossible and Kean won't have their best SSMD, which will make it more difficult.
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Re: CLC 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:25 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Hamilton beat Tufts...just sayin.

Honestly, it would be next to impossible and Kean won't have their best SSMD, which will make it more difficult.
Oh how I'd love the CLC to get to the kind of parity, depth and competition of the NESCAC.
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Re: CLC 2024

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Motorman wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:57 am
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Gulls require all 60 players eat at different locations prior to games.
Absolutely genius if true.
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Re: CLC 2024

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aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:25 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Hamilton beat Tufts...just sayin.

Honestly, it would be next to impossible and Kean won't have their best SSMD, which will make it more difficult.
Oh how I'd love the CLC to get to the kind of parity, depth and competition of the NESCAC.
Need a few more teams and a few more years.
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Re: CLC 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:46 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:25 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Hamilton beat Tufts...just sayin.

Honestly, it would be next to impossible and Kean won't have their best SSMD, which will make it more difficult.
Oh how I'd love the CLC to get to the kind of parity, depth and competition of the NESCAC.
Need a few more teams and a few more years.
Will be a tough go as public and privates don’t like to blend in conference. A team like Stevens would benefit as their conference is dreadful
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Re: CLC 2024

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Motorman wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:56 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:46 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:25 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Hamilton beat Tufts...just sayin.

Honestly, it would be next to impossible and Kean won't have their best SSMD, which will make it more difficult.
Oh how I'd love the CLC to get to the kind of parity, depth and competition of the NESCAC.
Need a few more teams and a few more years.
Will be a tough go as public and privates don’t like to blend in conference. A team like Stevens would benefit as their conference is dreadful
I agree, but Stevens is private they will get an AQ forever if they stay where they are. Not enough NJ teams, it would have to be Pa, Md. or Va schools.

NY, NE wouldn’t make sense logistically, it would eat up a budget pretty quickly.
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Re: CLC 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:07 pm
Motorman wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:56 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:46 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:25 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Hamilton beat Tufts...just sayin.

Honestly, it would be next to impossible and Kean won't have their best SSMD, which will make it more difficult.
Oh how I'd love the CLC to get to the kind of parity, depth and competition of the NESCAC.
Need a few more teams and a few more years.
Will be a tough go as public and privates don’t like to blend in conference. A team like Stevens would benefit as their conference is dreadful
I agree, but Stevens is private they will get an AQ forever if they stay where they are. Not enough NJ teams, it would have to be Pa, Md. or Va schools.

NY, NE wouldn’t make sense logistically, it would eat up a budget pretty quickly.
I’ve imagined the MAC going to an A side and a B side (call them whatever you want) with some sort of relegation system. Pull Stevens and the Freedom runner up to the A side. Then each year the B champion flips with the A last place.

It would never happen for a variety of reasons. But it’s fun to dream and I think it would be awesome.
MAC - The SEC of DIII lacrosse.
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Re: CLC 2024

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DeepPocket wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:37 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:07 pm
Motorman wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:56 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:46 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:25 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Hamilton beat Tufts...just sayin.

Honestly, it would be next to impossible and Kean won't have their best SSMD, which will make it more difficult.
Oh how I'd love the CLC to get to the kind of parity, depth and competition of the NESCAC.
Need a few more teams and a few more years.
Will be a tough go as public and privates don’t like to blend in conference. A team like Stevens would benefit as their conference is dreadful
I agree, but Stevens is private they will get an AQ forever if they stay where they are. Not enough NJ teams, it would have to be Pa, Md. or Va schools.

NY, NE wouldn’t make sense logistically, it would eat up a budget pretty quickly.
I’ve imagined the MAC going to an A side and a B side (call them whatever you want) with some sort of relegation system. Pull Stevens and the Freedom runner up to the A side. Then each year the B champion flips with the A last place.

It would never happen for a variety of reasons. But it’s fun to dream and I think it would be awesome.
I am curious about Kean and Montclair St. and the budget discussion. Each school has over 16000 students enrolled. Salisbury, CNU, and UMW combined might get to 16000. With all those students they couldn’t put a little more to athletics? Hire a full time head coach?
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Re: CLC 2024

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zonedef wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:21 pm
DeepPocket wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:37 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:07 pm
Motorman wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:56 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:46 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:25 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Hamilton beat Tufts...just sayin.

Honestly, it would be next to impossible and Kean won't have their best SSMD, which will make it more difficult.
Oh how I'd love the CLC to get to the kind of parity, depth and competition of the NESCAC.
Need a few more teams and a few more years.
Will be a tough go as public and privates don’t like to blend in conference. A team like Stevens would benefit as their conference is dreadful
I agree, but Stevens is private they will get an AQ forever if they stay where they are. Not enough NJ teams, it would have to be Pa, Md. or Va schools.

NY, NE wouldn’t make sense logistically, it would eat up a budget pretty quickly.
I’ve imagined the MAC going to an A side and a B side (call them whatever you want) with some sort of relegation system. Pull Stevens and the Freedom runner up to the A side. Then each year the B champion flips with the A last place.

It would never happen for a variety of reasons. But it’s fun to dream and I think it would be awesome.
I am curious about Kean and Montclair St. and the budget discussion. Each school has over 16000 students enrolled. Salisbury, CNU, and UMW combined might get to 16000. With all those students they couldn’t put a little more to athletics? Hire a full time head coach?
They’re both commuter schools, only a fraction of them live on campus. Kean also has other satellite campuses that feed into those #’s. The coach thing is a mystery, considering a lot of the other coaches are full time.
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Re: CLC 2024

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laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:35 pm
zonedef wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 7:21 pm
DeepPocket wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:37 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:07 pm
Motorman wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:56 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:46 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 pm
laxdad1434 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:25 pm
aroundtheoutside wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:44 am Just for the sake of creating conversation while we still have college lacrosse to talk about...what would it take for Kean or Stockton to pull off the upset of the decade this week? Crazy things have happened before. I still remember when CNU got their first program win against Salisbury in '14, in overtime. That was a massive shocker--CNU had been barely a blip on the radar before that.

So what would the recipe be for Kean or Stockton? Other than "SU/CNU all contract norovirus at the team meal at golden corral before the game."
Hamilton beat Tufts...just sayin.

Honestly, it would be next to impossible and Kean won't have their best SSMD, which will make it more difficult.
Oh how I'd love the CLC to get to the kind of parity, depth and competition of the NESCAC.
Need a few more teams and a few more years.
Will be a tough go as public and privates don’t like to blend in conference. A team like Stevens would benefit as their conference is dreadful
I agree, but Stevens is private they will get an AQ forever if they stay where they are. Not enough NJ teams, it would have to be Pa, Md. or Va schools.

NY, NE wouldn’t make sense logistically, it would eat up a budget pretty quickly.
I’ve imagined the MAC going to an A side and a B side (call them whatever you want) with some sort of relegation system. Pull Stevens and the Freedom runner up to the A side. Then each year the B champion flips with the A last place.

It would never happen for a variety of reasons. But it’s fun to dream and I think it would be awesome.
I am curious about Kean and Montclair St. and the budget discussion. Each school has over 16000 students enrolled. Salisbury, CNU, and UMW combined might get to 16000. With all those students they couldn’t put a little more to athletics? Hire a full time head coach?
They’re both commuter schools, only a fraction of them live on campus. Kean also has other satellite campuses that feed into those #’s. The coach thing is a mystery, considering a lot of the other coaches are full time.

While NJ produces a large number of quality lax players, the state colleges are way behind with their support of the sport. The state would rather pump tens of millions into a less than average RU football program while paying the coach a ridiculous salary before they pay a full time salary to a lax coach. No reason schools like TCNJ and Rowan don’t have lax teams.
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