All Things Environment

[Typical Lax Dad]

At least Al Gore isn’t making any money off the hoax:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/20/weather/ ... index.html

[PizzaSnake]

At least Al Gore isn’t making any money off the hoax:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/20/weather/ ... index.html

A lot of assumptions in the engineering of the built infra are going to turn out to have been “bad” bets.

What will be fascinating is dome of the next set of assumptions made as humans try and geo-engineer these challenges.

Speaking of old geo-engineering efforts, see this?

“ But now, with Lake Powell, the reservoir behind the dam, at a near-record low due to climate change and steady demand for water, these pipes could be a lot more important. If Lake Powell continues to shrink, they may be the only way to get water out of it and into the Colorado River.

"In nearly 60 years of operation at Glen Canyon Dam, we didn't need to address the issues that we're facing now," says Wayne Pullan the Bureau of Reclamation's Upper Colorado Basin regional director.

Water managers are now worried because of recently discovered damage was discovered inside those important tubes. It's caused by tiny air bubbles that pop so hard, they can rip away chunks of pipe.”

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/17/12453001 ... canyon-dam

[Typical Lax Dad]

Roll the tape……



A consensus isn’t UNANIMOUS!

[PizzaSnake]

Right wingers lose their minds again.

It first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.

In all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.

We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.

“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.

That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution

[cradleandshoot]

Right wingers lose their minds again.

It first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.

In all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.

We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.

“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.

That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution

I cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?

[PizzaSnake]

Right wingers lose their minds again.

It first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.

In all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.

We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.

“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.

That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution

I cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?

Suit yourself. I tried.

[JoeMauer89]

Right wingers lose their minds again.

It first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.

In all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.

We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.

“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.

That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution

I cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?

Suit yourself. I tried.

Tried what?

Joe

[a fan]

Right wingers lose their minds again.

It first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.

In all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.

We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.

“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.

That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution

I cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?

Suit yourself. I tried.

Tried what?

Joe

Ever eaten in a restaurant, PizzaSnake? They're not usin' electric ranges, my man. And they're not using ONE range.

Hoods with fans pulling upward are in both commercial and home kitchens for a reason.

[cradleandshoot]

Right wingers lose their minds again.

It first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.

In all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.

We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.

“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.

That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution

I cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?

Suit yourself. I tried.

Tried what?

Joe

Ever eaten in a restaurant, PizzaSnake? They're not usin' electric ranges, my man. And they're not using ONE range.

Hoods with fans pulling upward are in both commercial and home kitchens for a reason.

Like I said...those vent fans ROCK...

[NattyBohChamps04]

Unfortunately tons of homes don't have a vent these days. Just the idiotic microwave over the stove that blows grease all over the ceiling. That doesn't filter out a lot of the stuff from our gas stove. It's cheaper to build kitchens without a vent.

We have to cook with a door open and a fan on if we want actual ventilation. Adding a vent from our stove to the outside is pretty much impossible with our kitchen setup. We'd be looking at at a 20-30' run with two to three elbows. That's if there was even space without taking out structural elements.

Personally I blame those idiot libs for taking lead out of our gasoline and paint, and cocaine out of our Coca Cola, lithium out of our 7-Up, and all those pesky FDA regulations. Consumers should have the choice of whether they want to use stuff that's bad for them and their kids and the people around them.

[PizzaSnake]

Right wingers lose their minds again.

It first started when the lib tards came for our toilets. You remember those lib mandated beauties that took 5 flushes to send a turd on its journey. The problem with asbestos is for all its risks it is an effective heat shield. I don't know if a better product has been developed that is cost effective. I have been in countless basements of older buildings where those boiler pipes are all wrapped with those distinctive metal bands. As long as it is contained and not exposed or falling apart it is not a big issue. I've also seen many of these old pipes where the asbestos insulation is torn and hanging down completely exposed. I left several jobs when I saw those conditions and said I'm not going back down there until the problem has been remediated. I think there were several times where the building owners didn't even know what was lurking in their basement.

In all seriousness, NO2 isn’t good for you, your wife, or your dog.

We may have differences of opinion on some matters, but I don’t wish ill-health on anyone, or animal.

“Indoor gas and propane appliances raise average concentrations of the harmful pollutant, also known as NO2, to 75% of the World Health Organization’s standard for indoor and outdoor exposure.

That means even if a person avoids exposure to nitrogen dioxide from traffic exhaust, power plants, or other sources, by cooking with a gas stove they will have already breathed in three-quarters of what is considered a safe limit.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -pollution

I cook on my propane grill outside of my house. Our new gas stove has been properly vented and properly vented is the operative term. I'm working under the assumption you understand what proper venting is all about?

Suit yourself. I tried.

Tried what?

Joe

Ever eaten in a restaurant, PizzaSnake? They're not usin' electric ranges, my man. And they're not using ONE range.

Hoods with fans pulling upward are in both commercial and home kitchens for a reason.

““Ventilation does help but it’s an imperfect solution and ultimately the best way is to reduce pollution at the source.”

Nitrogen dioxide irritates the airways and can exacerbate respiratory illnesses such as asthma. The Stanford study estimates that chronic stove-based nitrogen dioxide exposure is linked to at least 50,000 cases of pediatric asthma in the United States each year. The research, which measured NO2 in more than 100 homes before, during, and after gas stove use, found that pollution migrates to bedrooms within an hour of the stove turning on, and stays above dangerous levels for hours after use.”

Yes, as hard as it may be to believe, they do have restaurants where I live, although my patronage had been down for a few years. Too expensive and the food quality is mediocre.

Having said that, yes, I do understand venting. Doesn’t mean I don’t strive to minimize exposure to pollutants.

I was trying to pass along helpful information. I won’t bother in the future.

[a fan]

Unfortunately tons of homes don't have a vent these days. Just the idiotic microwave over the stove that blows grease all over the ceiling. That doesn't filter out a lot of the stuff from our gas stove. It's cheaper to build kitchens without a vent.

We have to cook with a door open and a fan on if we want actual ventilation. Adding a vent from our stove to the outside is pretty much impossible with our kitchen setup. We'd be looking at at a 20-30' run with two to three elbows. That's if there was even space without taking out structural elements.

Personally I blame those idiot libs for taking lead out of our gasoline and paint, and cocaine out of our Coca Cola, lithium out of our 7-Up, and all those pesky FDA regulations. Consumers should have the choice of whether they want to use stuff that's bad for them and their kids and the people around them.

Speaking as someone who deals with OSHA regulations....you can tell that they were written by factory owners. Some of the tolerances for things like C02 are batsh*t crazy high....there's NO WAY I'd let my crew work near fermenters with 4900 ppm in the area for 8 hours. Our in house cap is 3,000 at any time. Grateful for libs in the vast majority, but not all, regulatory controls. Sometimes they do more harm than good. Sometimes.

I was speaking to the efficiency of true hoods. They really do work. If you don't believe that they do, your hot water boiler is a crapton more dangerous than a gas stove.....lots more BTUs (in most cases), and therefore combustion gases, and your basement has nowhere for those gases to go if your vents don't work.

[cradleandshoot]

The Russians have admitted to finding billions and billions of barrels of oil in the Antartic. How do they recover this oil in an environmentally friendly manner?

[youthathletics]

When your EV is in dire need of charging and the hoodrats stole the copper... https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1790476946926617024

[youthathletics]

Ages 18-34 are getting tired of the BS, same for the demo up to 55. After that....get off my lawn dumb asses.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... US_050624/

[Seacoaster(1)]

Ages 18-34 are getting tired of the BS, same for the demo up to 55. After that....get off my lawn dumb asses.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... US_050624/

Sigh. I guess I'm glad for you that you can laugh at it. They must not be reading about the temperatures all over the world, and the rise of the sea and intrusion of higher water tables in the American South.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... _p002_f001

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... nge-world/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate- ... ticle_list

"John Corideo drove the solitary two-lane highways of southern Alabama, eyeing the roadside ditches. It had been raining off and on for days and Corideo, chief of the Fowl River Fire District, knew that if it continued, his department could be outmatched by floodwaters.

It kept raining. Water filled the ditches and climbed over roads, swallowing parts of a main highway. About 10 residents who needed to be rescued were brought back to the station in firetrucks. More remained stranded in floodwaters, out of the department’s reach. “That week … we just caught hell,” Corideo said.

What the residents and rescuers of the Fowl River region faced on that day was part of a dangerous phenomenon reshaping the Southern United States: Rapidly rising seas are combining with storms to generate epic floods, threatening lives, property and livelihoods.

In the Fowl River’s case, unusually high tides slowed floodwaters as they went downstream to drain. This increased the water’s depth and flooded a wide expanse — even several miles upstream. The result was deluged roads, washed out cars and damaged houses from a flood that was larger, deeper and longer-lasting due to rising seas.

These supercharged floods are one of the most pernicious impacts of an unexpected surge in sea levels across the U.S. Gulf and Southeast coasts — with the ocean rising an average of 6 inches since 2010, one of the fastest such changes in the world, according to a Washington Post examination of how sea level rise is affecting the region.

The Post’s analysis found that sea levels at a tide gauge near the Fowl River rose four times faster in 2010 to 2023 than over the previous four decades.

The rapid burst of sea level rise has struck a region spanning from Brownsville, Tex., to Cape Hatteras, N.C., where coastal counties are home to 28 million people. Outdated infrastructure built to manage water, some of it over a century old, cannot keep up. As a result, the seas are swallowing coastal land, damaging property, submerging septic tanks and making key roads increasingly impassable.

“Our canary in the coal mine for sea level rise is storm-water flooding,” said Renee Collini, director of the Community Resilience Center at the Water Institute. “Each inch up of sea level rise reduces the effectiveness of our storm water to drain and the only place left for it to go is into our roads, yards, homes and businesses.”

To explore sea level rise in the region, The Post analyzed trends at federal tide gauges and drew on satellite data to compare the Gulf of Mexico with the rest of the globe. The Post also worked with Bret Webb, a coastal engineer at the University of South Alabama, to closely study the 2023 flood in the Fowl River region. A sophisticated river simulation Webb produced showed how higher seas would have turbocharged the flood, making it worse — with deeper waters covering a larger area for a longer time — than if the same event had occurred in an era of lower seas.

These analyses showed how much the ocean is rising and how it’s affecting flooding across this region, a preview of what other parts of the United States and the world that are affected by sea level rise will face in coming decades.

Key findings
The ocean off the U.S. Gulf and Southern Atlantic coasts has, since 2010, risen at about triple the rate experienced during the previous 30 years. In just the Gulf of Mexico, sea levels rose at twice the global rate over the past 14 years.

There are now more dangerous rain-driven and flash floods reported within 10 miles of the coast in the region. Their numbers increased by 42 percent from 2007 to 2022 — a total of 2,800 events, according to a Post analysis of National Weather Service data.

The Fowl River flood was caused by intense but not record-breaking thunderstorms that collided with high tides, according to Webb’s analysis. Working together, they caused the river to spill miles inland. The higher seas of today, compared with sea levels in 1967, would have increased the volume of the flood by nearly 10 percent of the river in its normal state, the analysis showed.

Human-caused climate change is driving an acceleration of sea level rise globally, largely because of the faster melting of the globe’s giant sheets of ice. Scientists do not know for certain why this region is experiencing a surge in sea levels beyond the global average, but one theory is that naturally occurring ocean currents are moving ever-warmer ocean water deep into the gulf. This warm water expands and causes seas to rise. This comes on top of sinking land, which has long exacerbated sea level rise in the region.

“When I first moved here in 2007, the rule of thumb was a foot per century,” Webb said. “Well, looking back now, in the last 20 years, we’ve gotten half of that in a fifth of the time.”

[youthathletics]

Take it up with Monmouth….now get off my lawn.

[JoeMauer89]

Take it up with Monmouth….now get off my lawn.

It's truly funny. You get run out of the arena for bringing forth an opposing viewpoint.

Joe

[jhu72]

Ages 18-34 are getting tired of the BS, same for the demo up to 55. After that....get off my lawn dumb asses.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... US_050624/

... data points have an error margin of +/- 4.1%. I doubt your explanation (tired of BS) has anything to do with the changes. For the first time a president has taken serious action (or is perceived to have) vis a vis programs to address CC. This would be factored in by the respondents.

Don't get your hopes up.

[cradleandshoot]

Ages 18-34 are getting tired of the BS, same for the demo up to 55. After that....get off my lawn dumb asses.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-instit ... US_050624/

... data points have an error margin of +/- 4.1%. I doubt your explanation (tired of BS) has anything to do with the changes. For the first time a president has taken serious action (or is perceived to have) vis a vis programs to address CC. This would be factored in by the respondents.

Don't get your hopes up.

So Joe has saved the planet? You still using that doctorate as a door stop? If the world needs Joe to save the planet I can only repeat the words that BHO will never admit to saying. " Never underestimate Joe Bidens ability to eff things up"
You and Joe actually do have something in common.