youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:03 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:37 pm
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:10 pm
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a fan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:40 pm
youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:40 pm
Idiots like Trump didn't care about a fair rotation much less organization and used all press availability, formal and informal, to just spout whatever BS
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Is there anything you will not defend so long as it puts Trump in a bad light.
Suuuuuper easy to figure out why MDLax is giving you grief.
We had this Forum for the entirety of the Trump era.
Kindly show us your posts complaining about Trump's press conferences, and how he couldn't open his mouth without lying.
Or better yet, show us your posts complaining about how he shut down Press Conferences altogether.
.....we'll wait. And when you realize you "forgot' to whine and complain about lying politicians when they have a little R by their name?
You'll acknowledge that MDlax ain't the problem here.
...I told you and the other Trump apologists that you'd have nothing to complain about when Biden showed up, YA. That when you ignored, or worse, DEFENDED all of Trump's nonstop lies and gaslighting, we'd know that you don't REALLY care when politicians lie......you just care when a Dem politician lies, and couldn't care less when your party lies to America.
And here we are......
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Kindly show me a clip where we are comparing apples to apples with Trump being told who he must call on with scripted responses...and then I'll entertain your rabbit hole, back seat driving shenanigan's. You can see in Bidens mirrors sunglasses the typed up responses he must read. Then I went on to expound Acosta heckled Trump daily, to the point he was removed....nothing more than click bait for CNN. But hey.....squirrel orange man bad, everything else pristine.
Lastly, I have said on multiple occasions that Trump's mouth got him in trouble and was the death of him; selective memory is rather convienant, huh?
But not in trouble with you. Or at least not enough to call out his incessant lying.
You DID NOT criticize the lying, the gaslighting, every time he stepped to the podium to talk to the press.
Saying "his mouth got him in trouble" in retrospect is not remotely akin to criticizing the lying and gaslighting in real time.
Nah, let's criticize Biden for doing what all other Presidents have done other in managing press questions, other than the lying POS you preferred who didn't care about giving all a rotation. Let's pretend Acosta doesn't ever ask tough questions of Biden or other Dems or Admin officials.
And then feign outrage over anyone calling you out for it.
Selective memory got you too, I see
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I sure did prefer him over HRC, and I admitted never again.....but then again, your selective memory continues even after saying this plenty of times. I am not nearly as judgmental as you, merely saying his mouth got him trouble speaks volumes, no need to go all 13 year-old Starbucks gossipy. and name calling...that's your thing
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yes, in 2018 and 2021 you said that his "mouth" was a problem. But none of that called him out as incessantly lying. That's factual, not name calling, but apparently you can't bring yourself to say it straight. Couldn't then, still can't. Invitation is open, though.
That was just a quick 30 second search for the term mouth. Of course he was lying, as do damned near all politicians, which I have said on many occasion.....more selective memory by you
I don't recall you ever saying "never again" would you vote for Trump, much less against him, after 2016 voting for HRC. Nope, just lots of defending him.
You are exhausting, and clearly do not pay very close attention to what others say unless its in the moment. I have said this at least a dozen times.
Just like all the voters who said "I wish he wouldn't tweet so much" and then voted for him, it's avoidance of dealing with the grotesqueness of his character. It's just way, way beyond the pale and any whataboutism simply fails the honesty test.
It's good to see so many of the former top officials who worked closest with him finally coming out straight about what they saw and that he's a danger to the country if ever enabled to have power again.
The invitation is open to anyone, no matter how deluded they were at some point before or defensive about their prior vote(s). It's never too late to 'come to Jesus' on this. But it could be too late if we collectively don't vote against him.
Care about having a viable, two party governing system that puts country over party when push comes to shove and which actually both try to do the right thing, including compromise? Gotta vote MAGA cultists out, again and again and again, until the GOP breaks its fever.
Sorry to have to say this, but I believe the toothpaste is out of the tube, and it will be unlikely we ever see this again in our lifetime. We are going to need a major event take place, a 'come to Jesus" moment, that binds us all back together.
One at a time, former Trump supporters need to convert and oppose Trump. Let’s start with you. If you’ve already committed to that path and I missed it, all the better. I wouldn’t bother with these exchanges if I didn’t think you were capable of changing your views, so that must be based on some signals I took in good faith. Great.
I’m not looking for us all bound together, just an overall supermajority that rejects extremism from both directions and which believes in fair and honest democratic competition based on the merits of ideas, not ideology, and which values facts and logic and evidence over dogma of any sort. A supermajority which recognizes and accepts that compromise is necessary to good governance, regardless of who holds the temporary strings of power.
But it takes one voter, one official, one politician at a time to convert. Start with you, I already converted from just not supporting to actively opposing. We need more rational people of good conscience to do so.
First, Trump’s lying was incessant, epic scale, and no ‘all politicians lie’ doesn’t cut the mustard. Differentiate or it’s just another mealy mouthed defense of Trump.
Second, make clear that in a binary choice, you recommend we all vote against Trump for whoever has the best chance to defeat him, regardless of party, and regardless of enthusiasm. Vote against any election denier. Simple.
It’s likely to take multiple cycles of voting, but that’s how democracy actually works.