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cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:45 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:05 pm Cradle is clearly upset that Biden did so well.
BTW, are you mean and verbally abusive to the people who work for you? Outside of yours truly do you fire F bombs at them? Do you also have a kind and gentle side and a mean and nasty side?? Sorta like president Jekyll and president Hyde. I guess there is no behavior or no amount of rude behavior you won't forgive Joe for? One thing about trump...he is a dick head 24/7/365. He never pretends to be otherwise. I know that from your perspective Joe is just a loveable little old fuzzball. :D
Well, it’s pretty clear that it upsets you that Biden did so well.

Did you actually watch him do so? You said you would not.
But did you breakdown and watch it?
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:07 pm So I got to thinking and this goes back to the days of the old forum. Some of the progressive stragglers that are still around today took great pride in insulting, degrading and making disparaging remarks about GWB. Their consensus was that Dubya was stupid, shrub was their favorite nickname. I use to defend Bush by informing them that stupid people don't wind up flying Mach 2 fighter planes. Anybody out there think Joe ever in his life had the mental capacity to fly an F102? That wouldn't have ended very well indeed. In short order Bush was stupid and Joe is a genius. Got it!! 8-)
Speaking of Bush and of truth telling the night of the SoTU, had Bush fixed the border way back when Katie might not have had a story to tell that allowed her to imply everything is Biden’s fault.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/09/poli ... index.html

As afan always points out, if the problem gets fixed the other side has nobody to blame.
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:37 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:07 pm So I got to thinking and this goes back to the days of the old forum. Some of the progressive stragglers that are still around today took great pride in insulting, degrading and making disparaging remarks about GWB. Their consensus was that Dubya was stupid, shrub was their favorite nickname. I use to defend Bush by informing them that stupid people don't wind up flying Mach 2 fighter planes. Anybody out there think Joe ever in his life had the mental capacity to fly an F102? That wouldn't have ended very well indeed. In short order Bush was stupid and Joe is a genius. Got it!! 8-)
Speaking of Bush and of truth telling the night of the SoTU, had Bush fixed the border way back when Katie might not have had a story to tell that allowed her to imply everything is Biden’s fault.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/09/poli ... index.html

As afan always points out, if the problem gets fixed the other side has nobody to blame.
Your preaching to the choir about the border. You can add Bill Clinton, Bush Senior, and Barack Obama. Every body kept kicking the can down the road until the road came to an end. A fair question to be left unanswered at least on this forum is why didn't Joe fix the problem right after he exacerbated it by opening the flood gates? Joe acts like that never even happened. Joe biggest F up as president has been his ineptitude in handling the southern border. How ironic, now in an election year he suddenly had his own " come to Jesus" moment. :D
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:07 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:37 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:07 pm So I got to thinking and this goes back to the days of the old forum. Some of the progressive stragglers that are still around today took great pride in insulting, degrading and making disparaging remarks about GWB. Their consensus was that Dubya was stupid, shrub was their favorite nickname. I use to defend Bush by informing them that stupid people don't wind up flying Mach 2 fighter planes. Anybody out there think Joe ever in his life had the mental capacity to fly an F102? That wouldn't have ended very well indeed. In short order Bush was stupid and Joe is a genius. Got it!! 8-)
Speaking of Bush and of truth telling the night of the SoTU, had Bush fixed the border way back when Katie might not have had a story to tell that allowed her to imply everything is Biden’s fault.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/09/poli ... index.html

As afan always points out, if the problem gets fixed the other side has nobody to blame.
Your preaching to the choir about the border. You can add Bill Clinton, Bush Senior, and Barack Obama. Every body kept kicking the can down the road until the road came to an end. A fair question to be left unanswered at least on this forum is why didn't Joe fix the problem right after he exacerbated it by opening the flood gates? Joe acts like that never even happened. Joe biggest F up as president has been his ineptitude in handling the southern border. How ironic, now in an election year he suddenly had his own " come to Jesus" moment. :D
you mean that Joe is listening to voters? Oh the horror.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:05 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:07 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:37 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2024 2:07 pm So I got to thinking and this goes back to the days of the old forum. Some of the progressive stragglers that are still around today took great pride in insulting, degrading and making disparaging remarks about GWB. Their consensus was that Dubya was stupid, shrub was their favorite nickname. I use to defend Bush by informing them that stupid people don't wind up flying Mach 2 fighter planes. Anybody out there think Joe ever in his life had the mental capacity to fly an F102? That wouldn't have ended very well indeed. In short order Bush was stupid and Joe is a genius. Got it!! 8-)
Speaking of Bush and of truth telling the night of the SoTU, had Bush fixed the border way back when Katie might not have had a story to tell that allowed her to imply everything is Biden’s fault.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/09/poli ... index.html

As afan always points out, if the problem gets fixed the other side has nobody to blame.
Your preaching to the choir about the border. You can add Bill Clinton, Bush Senior, and Barack Obama. Every body kept kicking the can down the road until the road came to an end. A fair question to be left unanswered at least on this forum is why didn't Joe fix the problem right after he exacerbated it by opening the flood gates? Joe acts like that never even happened. Joe biggest F up as president has been his ineptitude in handling the southern border. How ironic, now in an election year he suddenly had his own " come to Jesus" moment. :D
you mean that Joe is listening to voters? Oh the horror.
Joe isn't listening to anyone. If he had his druthers he would continue to do what he has done all along. That would be nothing by the way. Biden made a really bad decision on day one of his administration, he chose to roll back all of Trump's policies out of vindictiveness. That allowed the massive stampede of people with no plan about what to do with them all. Joe doesn't deserve a pat on the back he deserves a swift hard kick in his arse. :roll:

This should be a fun campaign season. The negativity between both candidates is off the charts and just getting started. I hope more people like myself find a 3rd option. Neither of these 2 morons should be running this country.
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One of them has done a good job as president. One enriched his family and select associates while failing on all campaign promises and breaking innumerable laws and lying 30,000 times in 4 years.
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OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:01 am One of them has done a good job as president. One enriched his family and select associates while failing on all campaign promises and breaking innumerable laws and lying 30,000 times in 4 years.
Shouldn't be a tough choice for a rational American.

But apparently a whole lot of people rabidly prefer that liar.

And it's not Biden's age nor any such lame excuse. There are whole lot of reasons that Trump tickles various people's fancy, and none of them seem particularly admirable to me. Many of them are not voiced out loud except perhaps outside of his rallies when people are in large groups and get excited enough, feel 'safe' enough to voice them.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:10 am
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:01 am One of them has done a good job as president. One enriched his family and select associates while failing on all campaign promises and breaking innumerable laws and lying 30,000 times in 4 years.
Shouldn't be a tough choice for a rational American.

But apparently a whole lot of people rabidly prefer that liar.

And it's not Biden's age nor any such lame excuse. There are whole lot of reasons that Trump tickles various people's fancy, and none of them seem particularly admirable to me. Many of them are not voiced out loud except perhaps outside of his rallies when people are in large groups and get excited enough, feel 'safe' enough to voice them.
A ton of people prefer neither. Sadly one of these clowns has to win. Why should any American be proud or happy to have one these jackwagons running the country? In case no one has noticed the entire world is going to hell in a hand basket with the serious possibility of the USA being dragged into a major conflict. IMO neither of these 2 idiots are capable of taking charge of a deteriorating world situation. Well one of them will get elected and we will all find out. Lucky us. :roll:

I'll give a hypothetical example with Joe in the batters box. One of our Navy destroyers gets hit and is seriously damaged or sunk. So what's the game plan if that happens? I hope that never happens but our ships are smack dab in the middle of harms way. We have to be on point 24/7/365 on the defensive side. The bad actors just need to get lucky once. Back to my original question, what's the game plan in a worst case scenario?

No need to worry cradle because that will NEVER happen. :roll:
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cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:38 amI'll give a hypothetical example with Joe in the batters box. One of our Navy destroyers gets hit and is seriously damaged or sunk. So what's the game plan if that happens? I hope that never happens but our ships are smack dab in the middle of harms way. We have to be on point 24/7/365 on the defensive side. The bad actors just need to get lucky once. Back to my original question, what's the game plan in a worst case scenario?

No need to worry cradle because that will NEVER happen. :roll:
If history repeats itself, you'll think of the perfect response. Biden will execute it, then you'll complain it was a terrible response. :lol:
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cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:38 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:10 am
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:01 am One of them has done a good job as president. One enriched his family and select associates while failing on all campaign promises and breaking innumerable laws and lying 30,000 times in 4 years.
Shouldn't be a tough choice for a rational American.

But apparently a whole lot of people rabidly prefer that liar.

And it's not Biden's age nor any such lame excuse. There are whole lot of reasons that Trump tickles various people's fancy, and none of them seem particularly admirable to me. Many of them are not voiced out loud except perhaps outside of his rallies when people are in large groups and get excited enough, feel 'safe' enough to voice them.
A ton of people prefer neither. Sadly one of these clowns has to win. Why should any American be proud or happy to have one these jackwagons running the country? In case no one has noticed the entire world is going to hell in a hand basket with the serious possibility of the USA being dragged into a major conflict. IMO neither of these 2 idiots are capable of taking charge of a deteriorating world situation. Well one of them will get elected and we will all find out. Lucky us. :roll:

I'll give a hypothetical example with Joe in the batters box. One of our Navy destroyers gets hit and is seriously damaged or sunk. So what's the game plan if that happens? I hope that never happens but our ships are smack dab in the middle of harms way. We have to be on point 24/7/365 on the defensive side. The bad actors just need to get lucky once. Back to my original question, what's the game plan in a worst case scenario?

No need to worry cradle because that will NEVER happen. :roll:
You keep playing this game that both sides are the same. That's complete BS. They're far from it. One side is willing to destroy our form of government - whether as necessary to gain the presidency or to keep the presidency once they have it. A vote for a third party increases the odds of that possibility. Even if you don't agree with the other side, a vote for it lets you hope for 2028.
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OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:01 am One of them has done a good job as president. One enriched his family and select associates while failing on all campaign promises and breaking innumerable laws and lying 30,000 times in 4 years.
If that were remotely the feeling among independents and non-MAGA republicans, he would be a slam dunk to win the presidency in November.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:38 pm
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:01 am One of them has done a good job as president. One enriched his family and select associates while failing on all campaign promises and breaking innumerable laws and lying 30,000 times in 4 years.
If that were remotely the feeling among independents and non-MAGA republicans, he would be a slam dunk to win the presidency in November.
That's because Americans aren't educated, Kram, and believe their media feed: which media feed do the "independents" look at?


What's been the mantra for Presidential elections, Kram? "It's the economy, stupid".

How's the economy? GDP is up. Markets are at record highs. The "Great Resignation" led to higher pay.

Inflation? If you want to be an adult, who's fault is that? It's OUR FAULT. What the F did folks think would happen when Trump printed money both before and during Covid? All those bailouts. All those direct payments to Americans. And then you add in the massive tax cuts for 1%ers and Corporations. And Biden kept that party going.

What do you THINK that does to the US money supply? That's right: it floods the market with dollars on the spending side, and keep that money from returning to the Treasury on the tax side.

So what the F do people think would happen when we do that? Inflation.

So how do you get that money out of circulation, Kram? Easy: raise taxes to pay for, at the very least, all the Covid bailouts and handouts.

Are we doing that? F no!!! Why? Because Americans don't understand how money works, and don't care to learn. All they want is for the party to continue.

And then they wonder why we NEVER cut spending. And why we NEVER raise taxes. Biden (or Trump, for that matter) had NOTHING to do with any of this. We did it to ourselves.

Because what would you and your fellow Americans think if Biden raised taxes? :lol: You'd lose your minds. This is on US, Kram. WE did this.
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a fan wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:05 pm Because what would you and your fellow Americans think if Biden raised taxes? :lol: You'd lose your minds. This is on US, Kram. WE did this.
Well, there you go:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... ign-taxes/

"President Biden on Monday called for major new spending initiatives to lower costs for health care, child care and housing and enough new taxes on the wealthy and major corporations to pay for those proposals and also shave $3 trillion off the national debt over the next decade.

Biden’s reelection year budget lays out the broad policy planks that many leading liberals have pushed him to embrace as he campaigns for another four years in the White House. With Republicans in control of the House, the proposals stand almost no chance of becoming law, but they set the stage for a likely rematch with former president Donald Trump this fall.

In a $7.3 trillion budget for fiscal year 2025, Biden would have Congress offer universal prekindergarten education, provide 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave, expand anti-poverty tax credits and create a new tax break for first-time home buyers.

The vast majority of the budget would cover mandatory programs, such as Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and veterans’ benefits, which are not subject to annual spending legislation.

That spending would be more than offset by dramatically increasing taxes on the wealthiest individuals and corporations, the White House said. Biden’s budget would increase the minimum tax on billion-dollar corporations to 21 percent from 15 percent. It would raise taxes on U.S. multinationals’ foreign income to 21 percent from 10.5 percent, and eliminate some tax deductions for executive compensation.

It would also restore $20 billion in new funding to the Internal Revenue Service — money congressional Republicans clawed back in recent spending fights — to train additional scrutiny on those same individuals and businesses.

“It’s clear the president’s economic strategy of building the economy from the middle out and bottom up is working,” Shalanda Young, director of the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, told reporters Monday.

The budget follows up the president’s State of the Union address, which fired up Democrats and ignited the Biden campaign’s largest fundraising hauls, in the strongest signal yet of Biden’s ambitions should he win another four years in the White House.

In the speech, Biden spoke of “building a future of American possibilities” in what some in Congress called the most sweeping social agenda since President Lyndon B. Johnson’s “Great Society.”

“Imagine what that could do for America,” Biden said in the address. “Imagine a future with affordable child care. Millions of families can get — they need to go to work to help grow the economy. Imagine a future with paid leave because no one should have to choose between working and taking care of a sick family member. Imagine a future of home care and elder care and peoples living with disabilities so they can stay in their homes and family caregivers can finally get the pay they deserve.”

Republicans in Washington have already shot down some of Biden’s proposals. Rep. Jason T. Smith (R-Mo.), chair of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, called Biden’s home buyers’ tax credit a “mortgage worsening tax credit.”

“The president’s proposal is an admission that mortgage rates are too high,” Smith said Sunday in a statement. ” … Unfortunately, this misguided response to the interest rate crisis the President created will do nothing to lower the cost of mortgages, will actually drive up the cost further of trying to own home, and may result in triggering another financial crisis.”

Biden’s administration has been dogged by persistent inflation, though that’s begun to cool in recent months. Prices rose 3.1 percent in January compared with the year before, a slower increase than 2023′s 3.4 percent annual rate — and far below the post-covid and 40-year peak of 9.1 percent — but still higher than analysts expected.

Conservatives argue that more government spending, and more social programs, will drive up inflation even more by injecting money into the economy.

Biden’s top economic advisers rejected that claim Wednesday, saying instead that investments in affordable child care and eldercare would give more individuals opportunity to join the workforce. That would drive up wages and give consumers more buying, relieving inflation.

“We’re very confident that if more caregivers could afford to pay for child care … that would increase labor force,” Jared Bernstein, chair of Biden’s Council of Economic Advisers, told reporters. “Higher labor force is very much a pro-growth development. It’s also helpful in dampening inflationary pressures.”

Congress has yet to finish passing spending laws to deal with the current fiscal year, which began Oct. 1, 2023, and runs until Sept. 30. Biden’s budget would cover the next year, starting Oct. 1."
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cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:38 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:10 am
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:01 am One of them has done a good job as president. One enriched his family and select associates while failing on all campaign promises and breaking innumerable laws and lying 30,000 times in 4 years.
Shouldn't be a tough choice for a rational American.

But apparently a whole lot of people rabidly prefer that liar.

And it's not Biden's age nor any such lame excuse. There are whole lot of reasons that Trump tickles various people's fancy, and none of them seem particularly admirable to me. Many of them are not voiced out loud except perhaps outside of his rallies when people are in large groups and get excited enough, feel 'safe' enough to voice them.
A ton of people prefer neither. Sadly one of these clowns has to win. Why should any American be proud or happy to have one these jackwagons running the country? In case no one has noticed the entire world is going to hell in a hand basket with the serious possibility of the USA being dragged into a major conflict. IMO neither of these 2 idiots are capable of taking charge of a deteriorating world situation. Well one of them will get elected and we will all find out. Lucky us. :roll:

I'll give a hypothetical example with Joe in the batters box. One of our Navy destroyers gets hit and is seriously damaged or sunk. So what's the game plan if that happens? I hope that never happens but our ships are smack dab in the middle of harms way. We have to be on point 24/7/365 on the defensive side. The bad actors just need to get lucky once. Back to my original question, what's the game plan in a worst case scenario?

No need to worry cradle because that will NEVER happen. :roll:
You do realize that is a constant issue regardless of who is President?

There are no easy answers or "game plan if that happens" but you betcha there are contingency plans, war gamed out, from which to choose.

So, in addition to whether we think the ultimate decision maker making the final choice has the best interests of the American people at heart or instead is thinking only about what is in his own best interest in the short term, we look to the quality of the advisors they will have in their Admin.

I feel quite good about the people currently in such positions and who would be attracted to serve in a second Biden Admin. Serious, experienced people and none of them are Dr. Strangelove's.

It's quite clear that Trump is going to have a very different calculus this next go round than in his first tenure, prioritizing loyalty, indeed fealty, to Trump over all else. We know that because he's publicly said so, his people have said so, and those who served last time have said so. https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/11/politics ... index.html

So, I have a heck of a lot more confidence in Biden's likely advisors than in Trump's in 2025 thereon.

And I definitely have more confidence that Biden would be thinking about the good of Americans more than Trump.

So, pretty simple choice really...on that hypothetical.

Easy on others as well.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:31 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:05 pm Because what would you and your fellow Americans think if Biden raised taxes? :lol: You'd lose your minds. This is on US, Kram. WE did this.
Well, there you go:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... ign-taxes/

"President Biden on Monday called for major new spending initiatives to lower costs for health care, child care and housing and enough new taxes on the wealthy and major corporations to pay for those proposals and also shave $3 trillion off the national debt over the next decade.

Biden’s reelection year budget lays out the broad policy planks that many leading liberals have pushed him to embrace as he campaigns for another four years in the White House. With Republicans in control of the House, the proposals stand almost no chance of becoming law, but they set the stage for a likely rematch with former president Donald Trump this fall.

In a $7.3 trillion budget for fiscal year 2025, Biden would have Congress offer universal prekindergarten education, provide 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave, expand anti-poverty tax credits and create a new tax break for first-time home buyers.

The vast majority of the budget would cover mandatory programs, such as Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and veterans’ benefits, which are not subject to annual spending legislation.

That spending would be more than offset by dramatically increasing taxes on the wealthiest individuals and corporations, the White House said. Biden’s budget would increase the minimum tax on billion-dollar corporations to 21 percent from 15 percent. It would raise taxes on U.S. multinationals’ foreign income to 21 percent from 10.5 percent, and eliminate some tax deductions for executive compensation.

It would also restore $20 billion in new funding to the Internal Revenue Service — money congressional Republicans clawed back in recent spending fights — to train additional scrutiny on those same individuals and businesses.

“It’s clear the president’s economic strategy of building the economy from the middle out and bottom up is working,” Shalanda Young, director of the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, told reporters Monday.

The budget follows up the president’s State of the Union address, which fired up Democrats and ignited the Biden campaign’s largest fundraising hauls, in the strongest signal yet of Biden’s ambitions should he win another four years in the White House.

In the speech, Biden spoke of “building a future of American possibilities” in what some in Congress called the most sweeping social agenda since President Lyndon B. Johnson’s “Great Society.”

“Imagine what that could do for America,” Biden said in the address. “Imagine a future with affordable child care. Millions of families can get — they need to go to work to help grow the economy. Imagine a future with paid leave because no one should have to choose between working and taking care of a sick family member. Imagine a future of home care and elder care and peoples living with disabilities so they can stay in their homes and family caregivers can finally get the pay they deserve.”

Republicans in Washington have already shot down some of Biden’s proposals. Rep. Jason T. Smith (R-Mo.), chair of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, called Biden’s home buyers’ tax credit a “mortgage worsening tax credit.”

“The president’s proposal is an admission that mortgage rates are too high,” Smith said Sunday in a statement. ” … Unfortunately, this misguided response to the interest rate crisis the President created will do nothing to lower the cost of mortgages, will actually drive up the cost further of trying to own home, and may result in triggering another financial crisis.”

Biden’s administration has been dogged by persistent inflation, though that’s begun to cool in recent months. Prices rose 3.1 percent in January compared with the year before, a slower increase than 2023′s 3.4 percent annual rate — and far below the post-covid and 40-year peak of 9.1 percent — but still higher than analysts expected.

Conservatives argue that more government spending, and more social programs, will drive up inflation even more by injecting money into the economy.

Biden’s top economic advisers rejected that claim Wednesday, saying instead that investments in affordable child care and eldercare would give more individuals opportunity to join the workforce. That would drive up wages and give consumers more buying, relieving inflation.

“We’re very confident that if more caregivers could afford to pay for child care … that would increase labor force,” Jared Bernstein, chair of Biden’s Council of Economic Advisers, told reporters. “Higher labor force is very much a pro-growth development. It’s also helpful in dampening inflationary pressures.”

Congress has yet to finish passing spending laws to deal with the current fiscal year, which began Oct. 1, 2023, and runs until Sept. 30. Biden’s budget would cover the next year, starting Oct. 1."
Well, it ain't perfect, but I'm 100% behind the bill, assuming these claims are accurate.

So should the board's Republicans.

Hey Republicans: if you guys are HONESTLY as serious about the nuclear family? You should be falling all over yourselves to provide free Kindergarten, and free child care.

Can you guys do me a solid, and FINALLY put your money where your mouths are, and INVEST in American Families?
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 12:31 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:38 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:10 am
OCanada wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:01 am One of them has done a good job as president. One enriched his family and select associates while failing on all campaign promises and breaking innumerable laws and lying 30,000 times in 4 years.
Shouldn't be a tough choice for a rational American.

But apparently a whole lot of people rabidly prefer that liar.

And it's not Biden's age nor any such lame excuse. There are whole lot of reasons that Trump tickles various people's fancy, and none of them seem particularly admirable to me. Many of them are not voiced out loud except perhaps outside of his rallies when people are in large groups and get excited enough, feel 'safe' enough to voice them.
A ton of people prefer neither. Sadly one of these clowns has to win. Why should any American be proud or happy to have one these jackwagons running the country? In case no one has noticed the entire world is going to hell in a hand basket with the serious possibility of the USA being dragged into a major conflict. IMO neither of these 2 idiots are capable of taking charge of a deteriorating world situation. Well one of them will get elected and we will all find out. Lucky us. :roll:

I'll give a hypothetical example with Joe in the batters box. One of our Navy destroyers gets hit and is seriously damaged or sunk. So what's the game plan if that happens? I hope that never happens but our ships are smack dab in the middle of harms way. We have to be on point 24/7/365 on the defensive side. The bad actors just need to get lucky once. Back to my original question, what's the game plan in a worst case scenario?

No need to worry cradle because that will NEVER happen. :roll:
You keep playing this game that both sides are the same. That's complete BS. They're far from it. One side is willing to destroy our form of government - whether as necessary to gain the presidency or to keep the presidency once they have it. A vote for a third party increases the odds of that possibility. Even if you don't agree with the other side, a vote for it lets you hope for 2028.
That is my opinion. As regarding trump and Biden in particular, I don't want either one of them running this country. My opinion is not a Democrat or a Republican thing. These 2 candidates are IMO way below the level of being qualified and borderline on incompetent. Support whatever candidate you prefer. My vote in November will not be for either one. There is an ever increasing number of Americans in the millions that feel the same way that I do. Hopefully an actual 3rd party candidate will come forward as someone you would feel good voting for.
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