February 19, 2024: It's too, too early for this business, but here is a top ten. Plenty of room for disagreement.
1. Boston College (nice win over Jacksonville, I guess; still have to play someone competitive. No. 1 because NU lost -- simple as that)
2. Northwestern (No. 2 because they lost; I think they win the rematch, but the Catholics showed how to do it)
3. Notre Dame (No. 3 because they beat the former No. 1 which is now No. 2, and will likely make their way to No. 1 again)
4. Michigan (did not see the Denver game, but happy to see the zone busted for the weekend; time will tell)
5. Maryland (wins over St. Joe's, and Syracuse, in the Dome; showed decent poise in the belly of the beast).
6. JMU (wasn't impressed at the home win against UNC, less impressed by the win over UConn; but they won both games, so here I am)
7. UNC (nice win over a Florida team that seems to be floundering; still, the upside for this team is pretty significant, just lots of talent)
8. Denver (grudgingly here; not a believer, and happy to eat crow about it later)
9. Loyola (win over a weak'ish Florida and weak American; the Charles Street contest will tell us a bit more, but I like the way Loyola moves the ball around on offense)
10. Syracuse (I think the 8 goals against Maryland was anemic, and a concern. The win over West Point doesn't look so good now, huh?)
I have no idea where Johns Hopkins and Stony Brook are headed. JHU is 3-0, but the swing through the Hudson Valley didn't tell me much, and the win over Duke was a lot closer than I thought it would be. SBU got a good win over a well-coached Dartmouth team, but hardly a powerhouse.
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This looks pretty reasonable to me. I would have Northwestern 4 behind ND and Michigan (after all a ND win has to count). I would also switch Maryland and JMU. JMU win over UNC is a stronger win in my opinion than a Maryland over Syracuse. At this point just don't know how good Syracuse is, but UNC is still a very deep and talented teamSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:56 am February 19, 2024: It's too, too early for this business, but here is a top ten. Plenty of room for disagreement.
1. Boston College (nice win over Jacksonville, I guess; still have to play someone competitive. No. 1 because NU lost -- simple as that)
2. Northwestern (No. 2 because they lost; I think they win the rematch, but the Catholics showed how to do it)
3. Notre Dame (No. 3 because they beat the former No. 1 which is now No. 2, and will likely make their way to No. 1 again)
4. Michigan (did not see the Denver game, but happy to see the zone busted for the weekend; time will tell)
5. Maryland (wins over St. Joe's, and Syracuse, in the Dome; showed decent poise in the belly of the beast).
6. JMU (wasn't impressed at the home win against UNC, less impressed by the win over UConn; but they won both games, so here I am)
7. UNC (nice win over a Florida team that seems to be floundering; still, the upside for this team is pretty significant, just lots of talent)
8. Denver (grudgingly here; not a believer, and happy to eat crow about it later)
9. Loyola (win over a weak'ish Florida and weak American; the Charles Street contest will tell us a bit more, but I like the way Loyola moves the ball around on offense)
10. Syracuse (I think the 8 goals against Maryland was anemic, and a concern. The win over West Point doesn't look so good now, huh?)
I have no idea where Johns Hopkins and Stony Brook are headed. JHU is 3-0, but the swing through the Hudson Valley didn't tell me much, and the win over Duke was a lot closer than I thought it would be. SBU got a good win over a well-coached Dartmouth team, but hardly a powerhouse.
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Great reading. Always a chuckle. Always compelling points and observations.
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You're certainly not crazy. I think reasonable people could agree with everything you say. On Notre Dame, I just think NU is the better team and will be over time. But flipping them now, in mid-February, would be fine too. I will say, I am not a believer that JMU is that good, much as I like their coach. Agree with you on UNC.forthelaxofit wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:06 amThis looks pretty reasonable to me. I would have Northwestern 4 behind ND and Michigan (after all a ND win has to count). I would also switch Maryland and JMU. JMU win over UNC is a stronger win in my opinion than a Maryland over Syracuse. At this point just don't know how good Syracuse is, but UNC is still a very deep and talented teamSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:56 am February 19, 2024: It's too, too early for this business, but here is a top ten. Plenty of room for disagreement.
1. Boston College (nice win over Jacksonville, I guess; still have to play someone competitive. No. 1 because NU lost -- simple as that)
2. Northwestern (No. 2 because they lost; I think they win the rematch, but the Catholics showed how to do it)
3. Notre Dame (No. 3 because they beat the former No. 1 which is now No. 2, and will likely make their way to No. 1 again)
4. Michigan (did not see the Denver game, but happy to see the zone busted for the weekend; time will tell)
5. Maryland (wins over St. Joe's, and Syracuse, in the Dome; showed decent poise in the belly of the beast).
6. JMU (wasn't impressed at the home win against UNC, less impressed by the win over UConn; but they won both games, so here I am)
7. UNC (nice win over a Florida team that seems to be floundering; still, the upside for this team is pretty significant, just lots of talent)
8. Denver (grudgingly here; not a believer, and happy to eat crow about it later)
9. Loyola (win over a weak'ish Florida and weak American; the Charles Street contest will tell us a bit more, but I like the way Loyola moves the ball around on offense)
10. Syracuse (I think the 8 goals against Maryland was anemic, and a concern. The win over West Point doesn't look so good now, huh?)
I have no idea where Johns Hopkins and Stony Brook are headed. JHU is 3-0, but the swing through the Hudson Valley didn't tell me much, and the win over Duke was a lot closer than I thought it would be. SBU got a good win over a well-coached Dartmouth team, but hardly a powerhouse.
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After Watching a lot of games the first couple of weeks, I think Arizona State deserves some looks for the polls. The goal
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Olay Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Olay Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.
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My guess is they'll be dragged by all three.laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:10 pm After Watching a lot of games the first couple of weeks, I think Arizona State deserves some looks for the polls. The goal
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.
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Looks for what? They have beaten Xavier, Niagara, Pittsburgh, and Sisters of the Blind...laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:10 pm After Watching a lot of games the first couple of weeks, I think Arizona State deserves some looks for the polls. The goal
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Olay Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.
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IL always has unhealthy fascinations based on past events that are way out of date. That bias shines through every time we look at these rankings.
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Be nice. And check the box. Laxfan’s kid goes to ASU.intheknow247 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:46 pmLooks for what? They have beaten Xavier, Niagara, Pittsburgh, and Sisters of the Blind...laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:10 pm After Watching a lot of games the first couple of weeks, I think Arizona State deserves some looks for the polls. The goal
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Olay Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.
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It also gets tough, especially early in the season. Once you get past the top 10-15 you can choose about 20 different teams to be 16-25. The pollsters love to keep UConn and UMass ranked when historically they don't beat anyone good. UConn is 0-2 and IL still has them ranked and doesn't have Fairfield ranked. Meanwhile they lost to Fairfield who is 2-1 with wins over UConn and Albany(who was ranked the first two weeks and played Hopkins and BC tough). Yes, UConn played JMU close thanks to a bunch of late man up goals but no way they should be ranked over Fairfield.
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All true. Fairfield is a solid team that competes for the conference, but it's one of the unpopular because it isn't a P5 football school. You'll sometimes see Mercer make something, but don't hold your breath on Fairfield, Coastal, or other programs. Even though Fairfield is better than Coastal, they will be treated as the same--redheaded step children. (I like redheads, btw )hmmm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:58 pmIt also gets tough, especially early in the season. Once you get past the top 10-15 you can choose about 20 different teams to be 16-25. The pollsters love to keep UConn and UMass ranked when historically they don't beat anyone good. UConn is 0-2 and IL still has them ranked and doesn't have Fairfield ranked. Meanwhile they lost to Fairfield who is 2-1 with wins over UConn and Albany(who was ranked the first two weeks and played Hopkins and BC tough). Yes, UConn played JMU close thanks to a bunch of late man up goals but no way they should be ranked over Fairfield.
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intheknow247 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:46 pmLooks for what? They have beaten Xavier, Niagara, Pittsburgh, and Sisters of the Blind...laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:10 pm After Watching a lot of games the first couple of weeks, I think Arizona State deserves some looks for the polls. The goal
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Olay Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.
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Hell, UConn isn't even IN a football conference! Maybe they're leaning on the hoops success...MolonLaxe wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 1:09 pmAll true. Fairfield is a solid team that competes for the conference, but it's one of the unpopular because it isn't a P5 football school. You'll sometimes see Mercer make something, but don't hold your breath on Fairfield, Coastal, or other programs. Even though Fairfield is better than Coastal, they will be treated as the same--redheaded step children. (I like redheads, btw )hmmm wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:58 pmIt also gets tough, especially early in the season. Once you get past the top 10-15 you can choose about 20 different teams to be 16-25. The pollsters love to keep UConn and UMass ranked when historically they don't beat anyone good. UConn is 0-2 and IL still has them ranked and doesn't have Fairfield ranked. Meanwhile they lost to Fairfield who is 2-1 with wins over UConn and Albany(who was ranked the first two weeks and played Hopkins and BC tough). Yes, UConn played JMU close thanks to a bunch of late man up goals but no way they should be ranked over Fairfield.
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Fairfield also has one of the worst losses of the season to Holy Cross.
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Good young coaching staff....ASU has picked two good HCs recently (Tim Mc and Taryn VT) - Wakefield and Warden have both had success at the top level...if they can catch a big win in those 3, they will start to get noticed....laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:10 pm After Watching a lot of games the first couple of weeks, I think Arizona State deserves some looks for the polls. The goal
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Olay Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.
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My daughter loves Wakefield and heard great things about Warden. Guessing ASU finishes 9-8 (Losses via SB, Michigan, Vandy, USC, Stanford, CU, DU, Oregon). Hope they pull off some upsets and look forward to catching their games against USC and SDSU.Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:07 pmGood young coaching staff....ASU has picked two good HCs recently (Tim Mc and Taryn VT) - Wakefield and Warden have both had success at the top level...if they can catch a big win in those 3, they will start to get noticed....laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:10 pm After Watching a lot of games the first couple of weeks, I think Arizona State deserves some looks for the polls. The goal
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Olay Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.
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I am a HUGE Caroline Wakefield fan. She brings such great energy to a program. I also love the way she plays.25and32LaxDad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:07 pmMy daughter loves Wakefield and heard great things about Warden. Guessing ASU finishes 9-8 (Losses via SB, Michigan, Vandy, USC, Stanford, CU, DU, Oregon). Hope they pull off some upsets and look forward to catching their games against USC and SDSU.Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:07 pmGood young coaching staff....ASU has picked two good HCs recently (Tim Mc and Taryn VT) - Wakefield and Warden have both had success at the top level...if they can catch a big win in those 3, they will start to get noticed....laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:10 pm After Watching a lot of games the first couple of weeks, I think Arizona State deserves some looks for the polls. The goal
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Olay Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.
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She doesn't play for ASU though...Brownlax wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:24 pmI am a HUGE Caroline Wakefield fan. She brings such great energy to a program. I also love the way she plays.25and32LaxDad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:07 pmMy daughter loves Wakefield and heard great things about Warden. Guessing ASU finishes 9-8 (Losses via SB, Michigan, Vandy, USC, Stanford, CU, DU, Oregon). Hope they pull off some upsets and look forward to catching their games against USC and SDSU.Dr. Tact wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 5:07 pmGood young coaching staff....ASU has picked two good HCs recently (Tim Mc and Taryn VT) - Wakefield and Warden have both had success at the top level...if they can catch a big win in those 3, they will start to get noticed....laxfan9999 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:10 pm After Watching a lot of games the first couple of weeks, I think Arizona State deserves some looks for the polls. The goal
Scorer form Mercer seems to be a good pickup. It will be interesting to see what they do with better competition but they looked really good so far. Olay Stony Brook, Michigan and Florida in next 3 so we will find out quickly how good they are.