Our Undeclared Wars

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U.S. Forces Strike Missile Sites in Yemen Following Houthi Attack on U.S. Commercial Ship

https://news.usni.org/2024/01/17/u-s-fo ... rcial-ship
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It has been apparent to me for awhile that there is a Russian-Iranian-Chinese strategy to deplete our inventory of effective, yet expensive, munitions, at a rate that our defense industrial base cannot sustain. Congress & the Biden Admin appear to be responding.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/1 ... s-00136648

As American warships burn through expensive missiles against Houthi targets in the Red Sea and Yemen, lawmakers, lobbyists and the Navy are angling to use a multibillion-dollar national security supplemental to replenish the military’s inventory of munitions.

The move further raises the stakes for the supplemental, which has seen a months-long, partisan fight over funding for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and the border. While a desire for munitions funding is bipartisan, the high level of wrangling between the parties means that including it in the supplemental isn’t a sure thing.

Ramping up the defense industrial base to quickly meet the demand for munitions and ammo has been a top priority for the Pentagon and Capitol Hill as the U.S. raided its inventories by donating missiles and artillery shells to Ukraine.

The Pentagon’s fiscal 2024 budget request sought a first-ever authority to sign multiyear contracts for seven different missiles. But there are still questions on Capitol Hill whether the ambitious plan can quickly meet the needs of the U.S. military amid Russia’s war in Ukraine, the spiraling Middle East conflict and a rush to arm Taiwan.
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Yep. I’d take it to another level and it has to do with our past/current dependency on ME oil and our change in mindset. Our deep desire for electrification at every turn, and as fast as possible, plays a part. Between the US and China we have been the top importer of ME oil….those tables are turning….where we are now exporting more oil and importing from the Western Hemisphere. I believe this is the long look and will secure us as far more energy independent from the ME and create ripples of controversy that promote in fighting as the Europeans avoid Russian oil.

Play this out another 25 to 50 years, Lord knows what comes of it. But as we encourage the influx of more migrants, invest in infrastructure, expand our manufacturing, and become far more aligned with western Hemisphere countries, you could see how the potential of breaking major ties with those across the pond, puts them in more conflict with the other two in the current GPC; force those two, China and Russia to fight amongst themselves as we rise above the mess.

Back to my bourbon …. Cheers 🥃
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Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
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youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
That was reportedly prompted by Iraqi Shia militias firing multiple Iranian ballistic missiles on Al-Assad Air Base, seriously injuring some US troops there, despite Patriot interceptors bringing some of them down. It's just a matter of time until a US troop is killed & Biden will have to answer for what he's been doing/or not doing to take out the threat. ...& the Iranians are taking credit for the attack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-person ... ed-rebels/

Several U.S. military personnel were injured in a missile attack Saturday night by Iranian-backed rebels on Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

At about 6:30 p.m. local time, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were fired by Iranian-backed militants from western Iraq, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media.

The base's air defense systems intercepted "most of the missiles," but "others impacted the base," CENTCOM reported.

Multiple U.S. personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injuries, CENTCOM said, and at least one Iraqi soldier was also wounded. No further details were immediately provided.

This marks the 144th attack on U.S. troops stationed in Iraq and Syria since Hamas launched its violent Oct. 7 assault on Israel and sparked the Israel-Hamas war. It's also one of the largest such attacks, and the second in which militia groups have fired ballistic missiles.

On Nov. 20, a ballistic missile attack on Al-Asad Airbase left eight people wounded and caused minor damage to the base itself. The U.S. killed several Iranian-backed militia personnel with a retaliatory strike.

Iran's foreign minister confirmed Tuesday that Iranian forces launched ballistic missiles at targets in both Iraq and Syria. The U.S. and Iraq condemned the deadly strikes that hit close to the under-construction U.S. consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Erbil.
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old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:53 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
That was reportedly prompted by Iraqi Shia militias firing multiple Iranian ballistic missiles on Al-Assad Air Base, seriously injuring some US troops there, despite Patriot interceptors bringing some of them down. It's just a matter of time until a US troop is killed & Biden will have to answer for what he's been doing/or not doing to take out the threat. ...& the Iranians are taking credit for the attack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-person ... ed-rebels/

Several U.S. military personnel were injured in a missile attack Saturday night by Iranian-backed rebels on Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

At about 6:30 p.m. local time, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were fired by Iranian-backed militants from western Iraq, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media.

The base's air defense systems intercepted "most of the missiles," but "others impacted the base," CENTCOM reported.

Multiple U.S. personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injuries, CENTCOM said, and at least one Iraqi soldier was also wounded. No further details were immediately provided.

This marks the 144th attack on U.S. troops stationed in Iraq and Syria since Hamas launched its violent Oct. 7 assault on Israel and sparked the Israel-Hamas war. It's also one of the largest such attacks, and the second in which militia groups have fired ballistic missiles.

On Nov. 20, a ballistic missile attack on Al-Asad Airbase left eight people wounded and caused minor damage to the base itself. The U.S. killed several Iranian-backed militia personnel with a retaliatory strike.

Iran's foreign minister confirmed Tuesday that Iranian forces launched ballistic missiles at targets in both Iraq and Syria. The U.S. and Iraq condemned the deadly strikes that hit close to the under-construction U.S. consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Erbil.
Aren't you the guy who championed having troops in Syria and Iraq to deal with ISIS? and supported the Orange Fatso government policy in that regard? Now barking at Biden for continuing the same policy (run by your former hero now propellerhead Brett McGurk).

What's YOUR plan, Saltine? Other than re-electing Orange Fatso. :lol: :lol:

You just like to troll, argue and name-call. Have to admit you are good at all that. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Kismet wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:20 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:53 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
That was reportedly prompted by Iraqi Shia militias firing multiple Iranian ballistic missiles on Al-Assad Air Base, seriously injuring some US troops there, despite Patriot interceptors bringing some of them down. It's just a matter of time until a US troop is killed & Biden will have to answer for what he's been doing/or not doing to take out the threat. ...& the Iranians are taking credit for the attack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-person ... ed-rebels/

Several U.S. military personnel were injured in a missile attack Saturday night by Iranian-backed rebels on Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

At about 6:30 p.m. local time, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were fired by Iranian-backed militants from western Iraq, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media.

The base's air defense systems intercepted "most of the missiles," but "others impacted the base," CENTCOM reported.

Multiple U.S. personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injuries, CENTCOM said, and at least one Iraqi soldier was also wounded. No further details were immediately provided.

This marks the 144th attack on U.S. troops stationed in Iraq and Syria since Hamas launched its violent Oct. 7 assault on Israel and sparked the Israel-Hamas war. It's also one of the largest such attacks, and the second in which militia groups have fired ballistic missiles.

On Nov. 20, a ballistic missile attack on Al-Asad Airbase left eight people wounded and caused minor damage to the base itself. The U.S. killed several Iranian-backed militia personnel with a retaliatory strike.

Iran's foreign minister confirmed Tuesday that Iranian forces launched ballistic missiles at targets in both Iraq and Syria. The U.S. and Iraq condemned the deadly strikes that hit close to the under-construction U.S. consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Erbil.
Aren't you the guy who championed having troops in Syria and Iraq to deal with ISIS? and supported the Orange Fatso government policy in that regard? Now barking at Biden for continuing the same policy (run by your former hero now propellerhead Brett McGurk).

What's YOUR plan, Saltine? Other than re-electing Orange Fatso. :lol: :lol:

You just like to troll, argue and name-call. Have to admit you are good at all that. :oops: :oops: :oops:
The point of OSs post is not being critical of our ongoing military presence in Iraq and Syria. My take is he is pointing out the ever increasing threat they are under everyday. What this attack made painfully obvious is the terrorists can overwhelm the air defense system protecting our men and women. They are extremely vulnerable and are in greater danger each passing day. What is their CiC doing about it?? Easy answer, not much at all. I hope for the sake of our soldiers that changes very soon. If not then those flag draped coffins will start showing up again at Dover. Those are bad optics for the CiC in a year he will be running for reelection. The answer involves our military being proactive instead of reactive. Those optics are not an option for their CiC either. :roll: Betcha dollars to donuts they are hiding their launchers using innocent civilians as human shields. Collateral damage is the type of thing that wakes their CiC up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.

The thought of those people protesting in front of the White House accusing him of crimes against humanity makes the CiC reluctant to act. Why the UN might even give him a stern scolding. :roll:
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:32 am
Kismet wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:20 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:53 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
That was reportedly prompted by Iraqi Shia militias firing multiple Iranian ballistic missiles on Al-Assad Air Base, seriously injuring some US troops there, despite Patriot interceptors bringing some of them down. It's just a matter of time until a US troop is killed & Biden will have to answer for what he's been doing/or not doing to take out the threat. ...& the Iranians are taking credit for the attack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-person ... ed-rebels/

Several U.S. military personnel were injured in a missile attack Saturday night by Iranian-backed rebels on Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

At about 6:30 p.m. local time, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were fired by Iranian-backed militants from western Iraq, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media.

The base's air defense systems intercepted "most of the missiles," but "others impacted the base," CENTCOM reported.

Multiple U.S. personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injuries, CENTCOM said, and at least one Iraqi soldier was also wounded. No further details were immediately provided.

This marks the 144th attack on U.S. troops stationed in Iraq and Syria since Hamas launched its violent Oct. 7 assault on Israel and sparked the Israel-Hamas war. It's also one of the largest such attacks, and the second in which militia groups have fired ballistic missiles.

On Nov. 20, a ballistic missile attack on Al-Asad Airbase left eight people wounded and caused minor damage to the base itself. The U.S. killed several Iranian-backed militia personnel with a retaliatory strike.

Iran's foreign minister confirmed Tuesday that Iranian forces launched ballistic missiles at targets in both Iraq and Syria. The U.S. and Iraq condemned the deadly strikes that hit close to the under-construction U.S. consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Erbil.
Aren't you the guy who championed having troops in Syria and Iraq to deal with ISIS? and supported the Orange Fatso government policy in that regard? Now barking at Biden for continuing the same policy (run by your former hero now propellerhead Brett McGurk).

What's YOUR plan, Saltine? Other than re-electing Orange Fatso. :lol: :lol:

You just like to troll, argue and name-call. Have to admit you are good at all that. :oops: :oops: :oops:
The point of OSs post is not being critical of our ongoing military presence in Iraq and Syria. My take is he is pointing out the ever increasing threat they are under everyday. What this attack made painfully obvious is the terrorists can overwhelm the air defense system protecting our men and women. They are extremely vulnerable and are in greater danger each passing day. What is their CiC doing about it?? Easy answer, not much at all. I hope for the sake of our soldiers that changes very soon. If not then those flag draped coffins will start showing up again at Dover. Those are bad optics for the CiC in a year he will be running for reelection. The answer involves our military being proactive instead of reactive. Those optics are not an option for their CiC either. :roll: Betcha dollars to donuts they are hiding their launchers using innocent civilians as human shields. Collateral damage is the type of thing that wakes their CiC up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.

The thought of those people protesting in front of the White House accusing him of crimes against humanity makes the CiC reluctant to act. Why the UN might even give him a stern scolding. :roll:
Kismet is just trolling OS, he does not listen very well, like his friend. :lol:
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:43 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:32 am
Kismet wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:20 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:53 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
That was reportedly prompted by Iraqi Shia militias firing multiple Iranian ballistic missiles on Al-Assad Air Base, seriously injuring some US troops there, despite Patriot interceptors bringing some of them down. It's just a matter of time until a US troop is killed & Biden will have to answer for what he's been doing/or not doing to take out the threat. ...& the Iranians are taking credit for the attack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-person ... ed-rebels/

Several U.S. military personnel were injured in a missile attack Saturday night by Iranian-backed rebels on Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

At about 6:30 p.m. local time, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were fired by Iranian-backed militants from western Iraq, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media.

The base's air defense systems intercepted "most of the missiles," but "others impacted the base," CENTCOM reported.

Multiple U.S. personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injuries, CENTCOM said, and at least one Iraqi soldier was also wounded. No further details were immediately provided.

This marks the 144th attack on U.S. troops stationed in Iraq and Syria since Hamas launched its violent Oct. 7 assault on Israel and sparked the Israel-Hamas war. It's also one of the largest such attacks, and the second in which militia groups have fired ballistic missiles.

On Nov. 20, a ballistic missile attack on Al-Asad Airbase left eight people wounded and caused minor damage to the base itself. The U.S. killed several Iranian-backed militia personnel with a retaliatory strike.

Iran's foreign minister confirmed Tuesday that Iranian forces launched ballistic missiles at targets in both Iraq and Syria. The U.S. and Iraq condemned the deadly strikes that hit close to the under-construction U.S. consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Erbil.
Aren't you the guy who championed having troops in Syria and Iraq to deal with ISIS? and supported the Orange Fatso government policy in that regard? Now barking at Biden for continuing the same policy (run by your former hero now propellerhead Brett McGurk).

What's YOUR plan, Saltine? Other than re-electing Orange Fatso. :lol: :lol:

You just like to troll, argue and name-call. Have to admit you are good at all that. :oops: :oops: :oops:
The point of OSs post is not being critical of our ongoing military presence in Iraq and Syria. My take is he is pointing out the ever increasing threat they are under everyday. What this attack made painfully obvious is the terrorists can overwhelm the air defense system protecting our men and women. They are extremely vulnerable and are in greater danger each passing day. What is their CiC doing about it?? Easy answer, not much at all. I hope for the sake of our soldiers that changes very soon. If not then those flag draped coffins will start showing up again at Dover. Those are bad optics for the CiC in a year he will be running for reelection. The answer involves our military being proactive instead of reactive. Those optics are not an option for their CiC either. :roll: Betcha dollars to donuts they are hiding their launchers using innocent civilians as human shields. Collateral damage is the type of thing that wakes their CiC up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.

The thought of those people protesting in front of the White House accusing him of crimes against humanity makes the CiC reluctant to act. Why the UN might even give him a stern scolding. :roll:
Kismet is just trolling OS, he does not listen very well, like his friend. :lol:
I couldn't agree with you more.
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:43 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:32 am
Kismet wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:20 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:53 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
That was reportedly prompted by Iraqi Shia militias firing multiple Iranian ballistic missiles on Al-Assad Air Base, seriously injuring some US troops there, despite Patriot interceptors bringing some of them down. It's just a matter of time until a US troop is killed & Biden will have to answer for what he's been doing/or not doing to take out the threat. ...& the Iranians are taking credit for the attack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-person ... ed-rebels/

Several U.S. military personnel were injured in a missile attack Saturday night by Iranian-backed rebels on Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

At about 6:30 p.m. local time, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were fired by Iranian-backed militants from western Iraq, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media.

The base's air defense systems intercepted "most of the missiles," but "others impacted the base," CENTCOM reported.

Multiple U.S. personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injuries, CENTCOM said, and at least one Iraqi soldier was also wounded. No further details were immediately provided.

This marks the 144th attack on U.S. troops stationed in Iraq and Syria since Hamas launched its violent Oct. 7 assault on Israel and sparked the Israel-Hamas war. It's also one of the largest such attacks, and the second in which militia groups have fired ballistic missiles.

On Nov. 20, a ballistic missile attack on Al-Asad Airbase left eight people wounded and caused minor damage to the base itself. The U.S. killed several Iranian-backed militia personnel with a retaliatory strike.

Iran's foreign minister confirmed Tuesday that Iranian forces launched ballistic missiles at targets in both Iraq and Syria. The U.S. and Iraq condemned the deadly strikes that hit close to the under-construction U.S. consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Erbil.
Aren't you the guy who championed having troops in Syria and Iraq to deal with ISIS? and supported the Orange Fatso government policy in that regard? Now barking at Biden for continuing the same policy (run by your former hero now propellerhead Brett McGurk).

What's YOUR plan, Saltine? Other than re-electing Orange Fatso. :lol: :lol:

You just like to troll, argue and name-call. Have to admit you are good at all that. :oops: :oops: :oops:
The point of OSs post is not being critical of our ongoing military presence in Iraq and Syria. My take is he is pointing out the ever increasing threat they are under everyday. What this attack made painfully obvious is the terrorists can overwhelm the air defense system protecting our men and women. They are extremely vulnerable and are in greater danger each passing day. What is their CiC doing about it?? Easy answer, not much at all. I hope for the sake of our soldiers that changes very soon. If not then those flag draped coffins will start showing up again at Dover. Those are bad optics for the CiC in a year he will be running for reelection. The answer involves our military being proactive instead of reactive. Those optics are not an option for their CiC either. :roll: Betcha dollars to donuts they are hiding their launchers using innocent civilians as human shields. Collateral damage is the type of thing that wakes their CiC up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.

The thought of those people protesting in front of the White House accusing him of crimes against humanity makes the CiC reluctant to act. Why the UN might even give him a stern scolding. :roll:
Kismet is just trolling OS, he does not listen very well, like his friend. :lol:
Yep. Trolling is all Kismet knows how to do. Expect his vitriol & projection to increase the more Trump is in the news. His TDS forces him to attack someone.

He says I'm "barking" at Biden but he can't produce anything critical I've posted about Biden's ME policy. I maintain the same position I did when he last trolled me on the ME situation. It's a tough problem. I don't have access to the info & intel sufficient to recommend a course of action. My only criticism has been of our NATO allies reluctance to join us in the Red Sea.

I still think we need to maintain the forces we have in Syria & Iraq to suppress IS & support the Kurds. We need to find a way to deter Iran & their proxies from attacking them. I don't know the best way to do that. Hopefully it will decrease when Israel dials back what they're doing in Gaza.

The use of Iranian made ballistic missiles is a significant threat increase that challenges our air defense capability. Patriot is not as effective as shipboard AEGIS in intercepting SRBM's.

Apparently we're taking it "very seriously" & will respond soon.
https://www.voanews.com/a/white-house-t ... 49124.html
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old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:44 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:43 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:32 am
Kismet wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:20 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:53 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
That was reportedly prompted by Iraqi Shia militias firing multiple Iranian ballistic missiles on Al-Assad Air Base, seriously injuring some US troops there, despite Patriot interceptors bringing some of them down. It's just a matter of time until a US troop is killed & Biden will have to answer for what he's been doing/or not doing to take out the threat. ...& the Iranians are taking credit for the attack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-person ... ed-rebels/

Several U.S. military personnel were injured in a missile attack Saturday night by Iranian-backed rebels on Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

At about 6:30 p.m. local time, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were fired by Iranian-backed militants from western Iraq, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media.

The base's air defense systems intercepted "most of the missiles," but "others impacted the base," CENTCOM reported.

Multiple U.S. personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injuries, CENTCOM said, and at least one Iraqi soldier was also wounded. No further details were immediately provided.

This marks the 144th attack on U.S. troops stationed in Iraq and Syria since Hamas launched its violent Oct. 7 assault on Israel and sparked the Israel-Hamas war. It's also one of the largest such attacks, and the second in which militia groups have fired ballistic missiles.

On Nov. 20, a ballistic missile attack on Al-Asad Airbase left eight people wounded and caused minor damage to the base itself. The U.S. killed several Iranian-backed militia personnel with a retaliatory strike.

Iran's foreign minister confirmed Tuesday that Iranian forces launched ballistic missiles at targets in both Iraq and Syria. The U.S. and Iraq condemned the deadly strikes that hit close to the under-construction U.S. consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Erbil.
Aren't you the guy who championed having troops in Syria and Iraq to deal with ISIS? and supported the Orange Fatso government policy in that regard? Now barking at Biden for continuing the same policy (run by your former hero now propellerhead Brett McGurk).

What's YOUR plan, Saltine? Other than re-electing Orange Fatso. :lol: :lol:

You just like to troll, argue and name-call. Have to admit you are good at all that. :oops: :oops: :oops:
The point of OSs post is not being critical of our ongoing military presence in Iraq and Syria. My take is he is pointing out the ever increasing threat they are under everyday. What this attack made painfully obvious is the terrorists can overwhelm the air defense system protecting our men and women. They are extremely vulnerable and are in greater danger each passing day. What is their CiC doing about it?? Easy answer, not much at all. I hope for the sake of our soldiers that changes very soon. If not then those flag draped coffins will start showing up again at Dover. Those are bad optics for the CiC in a year he will be running for reelection. The answer involves our military being proactive instead of reactive. Those optics are not an option for their CiC either. :roll: Betcha dollars to donuts they are hiding their launchers using innocent civilians as human shields. Collateral damage is the type of thing that wakes their CiC up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.

The thought of those people protesting in front of the White House accusing him of crimes against humanity makes the CiC reluctant to act. Why the UN might even give him a stern scolding. :roll:
Kismet is just trolling OS, he does not listen very well, like his friend. :lol:
Yep. Trolling is all Kismet knows how to do. Expect his vitriol & projection to increase the more Trump is in the news. His TDS forces him to attack someone.

He says I'm "barking" at Biden but he can't produce anything critical I've posted about Biden's ME policy. I maintain the same position I did when he last trolled me on the ME situation. It's a tough problem. I don't have access to the info & intel sufficient to recommend a course of action. My only criticism has been of our NATO allies reluctance to join us in the Red Sea.

I still think we need to maintain the forces we have in Syria & Iraq to suppress IS & support the Kurds. We need to find a way to deter Iran & their proxies from attacking them. I don't know the best way to do that. Hopefully it will decrease when Israel dials back what they're doing in Gaza.

The use of Iranian made ballistic missiles is a significant threat increase that challenges our air defense capability. Patriot is not as effective as shipboard AEGIS in intercepting SRBM's.

Apparently we're taking it "very seriously" & will respond soon.
https://www.voanews.com/a/white-house-t ... 49124.html
This from the BIGGEST TROLL of them all. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You take all this flak here because YOU DESERVE IT :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
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cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:32 am
Kismet wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:20 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:53 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
That was reportedly prompted by Iraqi Shia militias firing multiple Iranian ballistic missiles on Al-Assad Air Base, seriously injuring some US troops there, despite Patriot interceptors bringing some of them down. It's just a matter of time until a US troop is killed & Biden will have to answer for what he's been doing/or not doing to take out the threat. ...& the Iranians are taking credit for the attack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-person ... ed-rebels/

Several U.S. military personnel were injured in a missile attack Saturday night by Iranian-backed rebels on Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

At about 6:30 p.m. local time, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were fired by Iranian-backed militants from western Iraq, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media.

The base's air defense systems intercepted "most of the missiles," but "others impacted the base," CENTCOM reported.

Multiple U.S. personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injuries, CENTCOM said, and at least one Iraqi soldier was also wounded. No further details were immediately provided.

This marks the 144th attack on U.S. troops stationed in Iraq and Syria since Hamas launched its violent Oct. 7 assault on Israel and sparked the Israel-Hamas war. It's also one of the largest such attacks, and the second in which militia groups have fired ballistic missiles.

On Nov. 20, a ballistic missile attack on Al-Asad Airbase left eight people wounded and caused minor damage to the base itself. The U.S. killed several Iranian-backed militia personnel with a retaliatory strike.

Iran's foreign minister confirmed Tuesday that Iranian forces launched ballistic missiles at targets in both Iraq and Syria. The U.S. and Iraq condemned the deadly strikes that hit close to the under-construction U.S. consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Erbil.
Aren't you the guy who championed having troops in Syria and Iraq to deal with ISIS? and supported the Orange Fatso government policy in that regard? Now barking at Biden for continuing the same policy (run by your former hero now propellerhead Brett McGurk).

What's YOUR plan, Saltine? Other than re-electing Orange Fatso. :lol: :lol:

You just like to troll, argue and name-call. Have to admit you are good at all that. :oops: :oops: :oops:
The point of OSs post is not being critical of our ongoing military presence in Iraq and Syria. My take is he is pointing out the ever increasing threat they are under everyday.
Bring them home. What the F are they STILL doing in EITHER Syria or Iraq, outside of hanging out with a target on their heads?

All the result of dishonest leaders: "hey, if we enter this country? We can NEVER EVER leave, because of non-stop mission creep, and invented reasons we "have" to put our troops there. Everyone cool with that?"

Bring them home. Now there's no one to hit. Boy, what a difficult problem to solve.....
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old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:44 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:43 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:32 am
Kismet wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:20 am
old salt wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 12:53 am
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:55 pm Edging closer to declaration? https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17488 ... a82I2GssRg

Stupid X algorithm keeps serving me all kinds a fake stuff.
That was reportedly prompted by Iraqi Shia militias firing multiple Iranian ballistic missiles on Al-Assad Air Base, seriously injuring some US troops there, despite Patriot interceptors bringing some of them down. It's just a matter of time until a US troop is killed & Biden will have to answer for what he's been doing/or not doing to take out the threat. ...& the Iranians are taking credit for the attack.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-person ... ed-rebels/

Several U.S. military personnel were injured in a missile attack Saturday night by Iranian-backed rebels on Al-Asad Airbase in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

At about 6:30 p.m. local time, multiple ballistic missiles and rockets were fired by Iranian-backed militants from western Iraq, U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to social media.

The base's air defense systems intercepted "most of the missiles," but "others impacted the base," CENTCOM reported.

Multiple U.S. personnel were being evaluated for traumatic brain injuries, CENTCOM said, and at least one Iraqi soldier was also wounded. No further details were immediately provided.

This marks the 144th attack on U.S. troops stationed in Iraq and Syria since Hamas launched its violent Oct. 7 assault on Israel and sparked the Israel-Hamas war. It's also one of the largest such attacks, and the second in which militia groups have fired ballistic missiles.

On Nov. 20, a ballistic missile attack on Al-Asad Airbase left eight people wounded and caused minor damage to the base itself. The U.S. killed several Iranian-backed militia personnel with a retaliatory strike.

Iran's foreign minister confirmed Tuesday that Iranian forces launched ballistic missiles at targets in both Iraq and Syria. The U.S. and Iraq condemned the deadly strikes that hit close to the under-construction U.S. consulate in the northern Iraqi city of Erbil.
Aren't you the guy who championed having troops in Syria and Iraq to deal with ISIS? and supported the Orange Fatso government policy in that regard? Now barking at Biden for continuing the same policy (run by your former hero now propellerhead Brett McGurk).

What's YOUR plan, Saltine? Other than re-electing Orange Fatso. :lol: :lol:

You just like to troll, argue and name-call. Have to admit you are good at all that. :oops: :oops: :oops:
The point of OSs post is not being critical of our ongoing military presence in Iraq and Syria. My take is he is pointing out the ever increasing threat they are under everyday. What this attack made painfully obvious is the terrorists can overwhelm the air defense system protecting our men and women. They are extremely vulnerable and are in greater danger each passing day. What is their CiC doing about it?? Easy answer, not much at all. I hope for the sake of our soldiers that changes very soon. If not then those flag draped coffins will start showing up again at Dover. Those are bad optics for the CiC in a year he will be running for reelection. The answer involves our military being proactive instead of reactive. Those optics are not an option for their CiC either. :roll: Betcha dollars to donuts they are hiding their launchers using innocent civilians as human shields. Collateral damage is the type of thing that wakes their CiC up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat.

The thought of those people protesting in front of the White House accusing him of crimes against humanity makes the CiC reluctant to act. Why the UN might even give him a stern scolding. :roll:
Kismet is just trolling OS, he does not listen very well, like his friend. :lol:
Yep. Trolling is all Kismet knows how to do. Expect his vitriol & projection to increase the more Trump is in the news. His TDS forces him to attack someone.

He says I'm "barking" at Biden but he can't produce anything critical I've posted about Biden's ME policy. I maintain the same position I did when he last trolled me on the ME situation. It's a tough problem. I don't have access to the info & intel sufficient to recommend a course of action. My only criticism has been of our NATO allies reluctance to join us in the Red Sea.

I still think we need to maintain the forces we have in Syria & Iraq to suppress IS & support the Kurds. We need to find a way to deter Iran & their proxies from attacking them. I don't know the best way to do that. Hopefully it will decrease when Israel dials back what they're doing in Gaza.

The use of Iranian made ballistic missiles is a significant threat increase that challenges our air defense capability. Patriot is not as effective as shipboard AEGIS in intercepting SRBM's.

Apparently we're taking it "very seriously" & will respond soon.
https://www.voanews.com/a/white-house-t ... 49124.html
The news releases have only mentioned Patriot. I don't know if we have a THAAD unit at Al-Assad &/or in a location to protect Erbil
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:52 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:28 pm Phuk, praying all goes well:

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17462 ... a82I2GssRg
ohh my, yes. 👍
Never found, announced deceased. :cry:

https://news.usni.org/2024/01/21/two-na ... d-deceased
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:40 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:52 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:28 pm Phuk, praying all goes well:

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17462 ... a82I2GssRg
ohh my, yes. 👍
Never found, announced deceased. :cry:

https://news.usni.org/2024/01/21/two-na ... d-deceased
Tragic. As I’ve shared, one of my son’s good friends, longtime classmate and teammate, has been serving somewhere in that region. Undoubtedly knew these guys.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:56 am
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:40 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:52 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:28 pm Phuk, praying all goes well:

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17462 ... a82I2GssRg
ohh my, yes. 👍
Never found, announced deceased. :cry:

https://news.usni.org/2024/01/21/two-na ... d-deceased
Tragic. As I’ve shared, one of my son’s good friends, longtime classmate and teammate, has been serving somewhere in that region. Undoubtedly knew these guys.
Hope like heck he wasn't one of them..
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cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:56 am
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:40 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:52 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:28 pm Phuk, praying all goes well:

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17462 ... a82I2GssRg
ohh my, yes. 👍
Never found, announced deceased. :cry:

https://news.usni.org/2024/01/21/two-na ... d-deceased
Tragic. As I’ve shared, one of my son’s good friends, longtime classmate and teammate, has been serving somewhere in that region. Undoubtedly knew these guys.
Hope like heck he wasn't one of them..
Thanks; me too!
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:22 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:56 am
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:40 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:52 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:28 pm Phuk, praying all goes well:

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17462 ... a82I2GssRg
ohh my, yes. 👍
Never found, announced deceased. :cry:

https://news.usni.org/2024/01/21/two-na ... d-deceased
Tragic. As I’ve shared, one of my son’s good friends, longtime classmate and teammate, has been serving somewhere in that region. Undoubtedly knew these guys.
Hope like heck he wasn't one of them..
Thanks; me too!
Names released: https://www.nsw.navy.mil/PRESS-ROOM/New ... es-at-sea/


Navy Special Warfare Operator 1st Class Christopher J. Chambers
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Navy Special Warfare Operator 2nd Class Nathan Gage Ingram
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:11 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:22 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:04 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:56 am
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:40 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:52 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:28 pm Phuk, praying all goes well:

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17462 ... a82I2GssRg
ohh my, yes. 👍
Never found, announced deceased. :cry:

https://news.usni.org/2024/01/21/two-na ... d-deceased
Tragic. As I’ve shared, one of my son’s good friends, longtime classmate and teammate, has been serving somewhere in that region. Undoubtedly knew these guys.
Hope like heck he wasn't one of them..
Thanks; me too!
Names released: https://www.nsw.navy.mil/PRESS-ROOM/New ... es-at-sea/


Navy Special Warfare Operator 1st Class Christopher J. Chambers
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Navy Special Warfare Operator 2nd Class Nathan Gage Ingram
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Thanks. My son’s buddy, who I coached for many years in rec, was a captain of UNC lax team. Outstanding young man as I’m sure these two sailors were. RIP.

Last I heard he was somewhere in Africa but that was quite awhile ago now.
And they get deployed to tough spots as needed.
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:11 pm Names released: https://www.nsw.navy.mil/PRESS-ROOM/New ... es-at-sea/

Navy Special Warfare Operator 1st Class Christopher J. Chambers
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Navy Special Warfare Operator 2nd Class Nathan Gage Ingram
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Heroes Lost. RIP.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 ... n=20240122

According to officials, the Jan. 11 raid targeted an unflagged ship carrying illicit Iranian-made weapons to the Houthi rebels in Yemen. Officials have said that as the team was boarding the ship, one of the SEALs went under in the heavy seas, and a teammate went in to try and save him.

The commandos had launched from the USS Lewis B. Puller, a mobile sea base, and they were backed by drones and helicopters. They loaded onto small special operations combat craft driven by naval special warfare crew to get to the boat.

In the raid, they seized an array of Iranian-made weaponry, including cruise and ballistic missile components such as propulsion and guidance devices and warheads, as well as air defense parts, Central Command said. It marked the latest seizure by the U.S. Navy and its allies of weapon shipments bound for the rebels, who have launched a series of attacks now threatening global trade in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden over Israel’s war on Hamas in the Gaza Strip. The seized missile components included types likely used in those attacks.

The U.S. Navy ultimately sunk the ship carrying the weapons after deeming it unsafe, Central Command said. The ship’s 14 crew were detained.
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