All things CoronaVirus

[RedFromMI]

Above my paygrade, but concerning.

mRNA has appeared to be found in the nucleic acid containments in DNA...with potential concerns.

Seems it was stated mRNA would break down before entering nucleic of DNA...the claim in the report indicates they have found the former to not be true.

Some info on that with references:

Residual DNA in COVID-19 mRNA vaccines is documented, isn’t associated with genome modification or cancer, contrary to claim by Robert Malone

Just another reason to ignore Ladapo…and understand he puts out sh!t like this for political purposes.

[Kismet]

Just like Megyn Kelly who now claims her autoimmune disease in the result of mRNA shot. Loser again.

[jhu72]

Above my paygrade, but concerning.

mRNA has appeared to be found in the nucleic acid containments in DNA...with potential concerns.

Seems it was stated mRNA would break down before entering nucleic of DNA...the claim in the report indicates they have found the former to not be true.

Some info on that with references:

Residual DNA in COVID-19 mRNA vaccines is documented, isn’t associated with genome modification or cancer, contrary to claim by Robert Malone

Just another reason to ignore Ladapo…and understand he puts out sh!t like this for political purposes.

... more misinformation from the Florida snakeoil salesman. Florida is a joke

[cradleandshoot]

Above my paygrade, but concerning.

mRNA has appeared to be found in the nucleic acid containments in DNA...with potential concerns.

Seems it was stated mRNA would break down before entering nucleic of DNA...the claim in the report indicates they have found the former to not be true.

Some info on that with references:

Residual DNA in COVID-19 mRNA vaccines is documented, isn’t associated with genome modification or cancer, contrary to claim by Robert Malone

Just another reason to ignore Ladapo…and understand he puts out sh!t like this for political purposes.

It is hard to believe that people put out stuff for political purposes. That NEVER happens on this forum.

[cradleandshoot]

Above my paygrade, but concerning.

mRNA has appeared to be found in the nucleic acid containments in DNA...with potential concerns.

Seems it was stated mRNA would break down before entering nucleic of DNA...the claim in the report indicates they have found the former to not be true.

Some info on that with references:

Residual DNA in COVID-19 mRNA vaccines is documented, isn’t associated with genome modification or cancer, contrary to claim by Robert Malone

Just another reason to ignore Ladapo…and understand he puts out sh!t like this for political purposes.

... more misinformation from the Florida snakeoil salesman. Florida is a joke

Yeah but it's a joke with warm and sunny beaches. I think college students should refuse to venture down there for spring break. Bayonne, NJ may not have the ambiance but at least it is a politically correct option. Hell if these kids are properly chit faced they won't know where the hell they are at anyway.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Whooping cough is back after vaccinations basically eradicated it. Folks doing their own research.

[CU88a]

Covid-19 research roundup: Jan 11
KATELYN JETELINA

There are several new scientific developments regarding Covid-19 that might be useful to you, given that we are in a big wave right now. Here is a quick research roundup.

Fall 2023 vaccines are effective
What we know: Recommendations for an updated 2023 Covid-19 vaccine were based on lab and some human data. We didn’t have real-world data or clinical trial efficacy data. (This follows a similar model to the flu.)

New info: Vaccine effectiveness data is rolling in:

70% effectiveness against hospitalization (preprint; Netherlands; among 60+ year-olds previously vaccinated).

Another study found significant added protection for (at least) 30 days against emergency department use, outpatient use, and hospitalization. (Kaiser; among those over 18 years.)

Why does this matter? If you’re up-to-date on vaccines, you can be confident it’s providing additional protection.

Vaccines help protect against long covid
What we know: Vaccines have many benefits, including preventing long covid. We didn’t know the incremental benefit of additional doses.

New info: A recent study showed that the more vaccines you get, the less likely you will get long covid. This is called a dose-response relationship: One dose of vaccine reduces risk by 21%, 2 doses reduce by 59%, and 3+ doses reduce by 73%.

Why does it matter? Most people still pay attention to Covid-19 to prevent long covid. Keeping up with vaccines helps a lot.

Children and vaccines
New info: We’ve been lacking real-world effectiveness data among children lately. The evidence is flooding in now. Four recent studies show:

Vaccines were highly effective against infection and severe disease across all pandemic periods. Across 4 Nordic countries, for example, there was 73% vaccine effectiveness against severe disease among adolescents. The risk difference was 2 per 10,000 adolescents vaccinated.

Vaccines are safe. The rate and cause of sudden cardiac death in young people was not due to vaccines during the pandemic. One study even included autopsy investigations.

Transmission takes hours
New info: Transmission increased linearly by 1% chance per hour. Most transmission resulted from exposures lasting one hour to several days. Households accounted for 6% of contacts but 40% of transmissions.

Figure from Ferretti et al., 2023.. Nature. Source here.
Why does this matter? Transmission = time x proximity. This may help your risk calculations. Quick passersby at a grocery store are far less risky than staying in a house with someone infected.

JN.1 is more severe?
New info: Lab data suggests that JN.1 (the dominant subvariant today) is more severe on a microscopic level than other Omicron variants.

Why does this matter? We don’t know whether this has implications on an individual level (i.e., feeling more crappy). But, it does not seem to affect a population level (hospitalizations are less common than last year). Regardless, it may be worth doubling down on protections right now.

Covid-19 viral load peaking later
What we knew: The virus and our immunity wall have changed significantly over time, which may have implications for antigen testing.

New info: A new study showed that, during the Omicron era, viral load peaked (i.e., had low values in the graph below) on days 3-4. This is very different than the beginning of the pandemic when it peaked at the start of symptoms. (They also looked at the flu, which peaked on days 1-2.)

Original image from Frediani et al., 2023; Annotations by YLE
Why does this matter? You may not reliably test positive on a rapid antigen test until the third, fourth, or even fifth day of symptoms. This raises questions on how best to use tests, too, like with Paxlovid (which needs to be given within 5 days of symptoms) and isolation.

No seasonality?
What we knew: Other viruses are sensitive to temperatures, partially explaining the seasonality patterns of flu and the common cold, for example.

What’s new: A recent animal study suggested SARS-CoV-2 transmission is not driven by temperature or humidity changes. SARS-CoV-2 remains capable of transmission under a variety of temperature and humidity conditions. This is surprising.

Why does this matter? We will likely continue to see multiple waves per year, as human behavior and immune status dominantly determine when we get waves of Covid-19 infection, not the environment.

Bottom line
Although we are four years into this thing, we still learn every day. Yes, science can still help us make better and more informed decisions.

[youthathletics]

Chinese Lab Mapped Deadly Coronavirus Two Weeks Before Beijing Told the World, Documents Show
The lead time could have proved critical in combating pandemic, specialists say:

https://www.wsj.com/world/china/chinese ... w-9bca8865

[WaffleTwineFaceoff]

Covid-19 research roundup: Jan 11
KATELYN JETELINA

There are several new scientific developments regarding Covid-19 that might be useful to you, given that we are in a big wave right now. Here is a quick research roundup.

Fall 2023 vaccines are effective
What we know: Recommendations for an updated 2023 Covid-19 vaccine were based on lab and some human data. We didn’t have real-world data or clinical trial efficacy data. (This follows a similar model to the flu.)

New info: Vaccine effectiveness data is rolling in:

70% effectiveness against hospitalization (preprint; Netherlands; among 60+ year-olds previously vaccinated).

Another study found significant added protection for (at least) 30 days against emergency department use, outpatient use, and hospitalization. (Kaiser; among those over 18 years.)

Why does this matter? If you’re up-to-date on vaccines, you can be confident it’s providing additional protection.

Vaccines help protect against long covid
What we know: Vaccines have many benefits, including preventing long covid. We didn’t know the incremental benefit of additional doses.

New info: A recent study showed that the more vaccines you get, the less likely you will get long covid. This is called a dose-response relationship: One dose of vaccine reduces risk by 21%, 2 doses reduce by 59%, and 3+ doses reduce by 73%.

Why does it matter? Most people still pay attention to Covid-19 to prevent long covid. Keeping up with vaccines helps a lot.

Children and vaccines
New info: We’ve been lacking real-world effectiveness data among children lately. The evidence is flooding in now. Four recent studies show:

Vaccines were highly effective against infection and severe disease across all pandemic periods. Across 4 Nordic countries, for example, there was 73% vaccine effectiveness against severe disease among adolescents. The risk difference was 2 per 10,000 adolescents vaccinated.

Vaccines are safe. The rate and cause of sudden cardiac death in young people was not due to vaccines during the pandemic. One study even included autopsy investigations.

Transmission takes hours
New info: Transmission increased linearly by 1% chance per hour. Most transmission resulted from exposures lasting one hour to several days. Households accounted for 6% of contacts but 40% of transmissions.

Figure from Ferretti et al., 2023.. Nature. Source here.
Why does this matter? Transmission = time x proximity. This may help your risk calculations. Quick passersby at a grocery store are far less risky than staying in a house with someone infected.

JN.1 is more severe?
New info: Lab data suggests that JN.1 (the dominant subvariant today) is more severe on a microscopic level than other Omicron variants.

Why does this matter? We don’t know whether this has implications on an individual level (i.e., feeling more crappy). But, it does not seem to affect a population level (hospitalizations are less common than last year). Regardless, it may be worth doubling down on protections right now.

Covid-19 viral load peaking later
What we knew: The virus and our immunity wall have changed significantly over time, which may have implications for antigen testing.

New info: A new study showed that, during the Omicron era, viral load peaked (i.e., had low values in the graph below) on days 3-4. This is very different than the beginning of the pandemic when it peaked at the start of symptoms. (They also looked at the flu, which peaked on days 1-2.)

Original image from Frediani et al., 2023; Annotations by YLE
Why does this matter? You may not reliably test positive on a rapid antigen test until the third, fourth, or even fifth day of symptoms. This raises questions on how best to use tests, too, like with Paxlovid (which needs to be given within 5 days of symptoms) and isolation.

No seasonality?
What we knew: Other viruses are sensitive to temperatures, partially explaining the seasonality patterns of flu and the common cold, for example.

What’s new: A recent animal study suggested SARS-CoV-2 transmission is not driven by temperature or humidity changes. SARS-CoV-2 remains capable of transmission under a variety of temperature and humidity conditions. This is surprising.

Why does this matter? We will likely continue to see multiple waves per year, as human behavior and immune status dominantly determine when we get waves of Covid-19 infection, not the environment.

Bottom line
Although we are four years into this thing, we still learn every day. Yes, science can still help us make better and more informed decisions.

I need posts like this, because it is easy to fall prey to "self gaslighting" regarding maybe just perhaps wishing I hadn't been jabbed. There does seem to be at least some new medical papers coming out addressing some of the claims being bandied about regarding those heart attacks and other health issue attributions. It still feels difficult to get confidence inducing data. That failure in communication to the public leaves many, including myself, feeling a bit uncertain.

[a fan]

Covid-19 research roundup: Jan 11
KATELYN JETELINA

There are several new scientific developments regarding Covid-19 that might be useful to you, given that we are in a big wave right now. Here is a quick research roundup.

Fall 2023 vaccines are effective
What we know: Recommendations for an updated 2023 Covid-19 vaccine were based on lab and some human data. We didn’t have real-world data or clinical trial efficacy data. (This follows a similar model to the flu.)

New info: Vaccine effectiveness data is rolling in:

70% effectiveness against hospitalization (preprint; Netherlands; among 60+ year-olds previously vaccinated).

Another study found significant added protection for (at least) 30 days against emergency department use, outpatient use, and hospitalization. (Kaiser; among those over 18 years.)

Why does this matter? If you’re up-to-date on vaccines, you can be confident it’s providing additional protection.

Vaccines help protect against long covid
What we know: Vaccines have many benefits, including preventing long covid. We didn’t know the incremental benefit of additional doses.

New info: A recent study showed that the more vaccines you get, the less likely you will get long covid. This is called a dose-response relationship: One dose of vaccine reduces risk by 21%, 2 doses reduce by 59%, and 3+ doses reduce by 73%.

Why does it matter? Most people still pay attention to Covid-19 to prevent long covid. Keeping up with vaccines helps a lot.

Children and vaccines
New info: We’ve been lacking real-world effectiveness data among children lately. The evidence is flooding in now. Four recent studies show:

Vaccines were highly effective against infection and severe disease across all pandemic periods. Across 4 Nordic countries, for example, there was 73% vaccine effectiveness against severe disease among adolescents. The risk difference was 2 per 10,000 adolescents vaccinated.

Vaccines are safe. The rate and cause of sudden cardiac death in young people was not due to vaccines during the pandemic. One study even included autopsy investigations.

Transmission takes hours
New info: Transmission increased linearly by 1% chance per hour. Most transmission resulted from exposures lasting one hour to several days. Households accounted for 6% of contacts but 40% of transmissions.

Figure from Ferretti et al., 2023.. Nature. Source here.
Why does this matter? Transmission = time x proximity. This may help your risk calculations. Quick passersby at a grocery store are far less risky than staying in a house with someone infected.

JN.1 is more severe?
New info: Lab data suggests that JN.1 (the dominant subvariant today) is more severe on a microscopic level than other Omicron variants.

Why does this matter? We don’t know whether this has implications on an individual level (i.e., feeling more crappy). But, it does not seem to affect a population level (hospitalizations are less common than last year). Regardless, it may be worth doubling down on protections right now.

Covid-19 viral load peaking later
What we knew: The virus and our immunity wall have changed significantly over time, which may have implications for antigen testing.

New info: A new study showed that, during the Omicron era, viral load peaked (i.e., had low values in the graph below) on days 3-4. This is very different than the beginning of the pandemic when it peaked at the start of symptoms. (They also looked at the flu, which peaked on days 1-2.)

Original image from Frediani et al., 2023; Annotations by YLE
Why does this matter? You may not reliably test positive on a rapid antigen test until the third, fourth, or even fifth day of symptoms. This raises questions on how best to use tests, too, like with Paxlovid (which needs to be given within 5 days of symptoms) and isolation.

No seasonality?
What we knew: Other viruses are sensitive to temperatures, partially explaining the seasonality patterns of flu and the common cold, for example.

What’s new: A recent animal study suggested SARS-CoV-2 transmission is not driven by temperature or humidity changes. SARS-CoV-2 remains capable of transmission under a variety of temperature and humidity conditions. This is surprising.

Why does this matter? We will likely continue to see multiple waves per year, as human behavior and immune status dominantly determine when we get waves of Covid-19 infection, not the environment.

Bottom line
Although we are four years into this thing, we still learn every day. Yes, science can still help us make better and more informed decisions.

I need posts like this, because it is easy to fall prey to "self gaslighting" regarding maybe just perhaps wishing I hadn't been jabbed. There does seem to be at least some new medical papers coming out addressing some of the claims being bandied about regarding those heart attacks and other health issue attributions. It still feels difficult to get confidence inducing data. That failure in communication to the public leaves many, including myself, feeling a bit uncertain.

Solution is simple: ignore these papers. We're not qualified to understand what they say, and what they DON'T say.

Ask your personal doctor. Get a second opinion, if you like. Ask all your questions. But always communicate with doctors. More importantly, your doctor will know YOUR personal medical history. They might tell you to get vaxxed, and they might not.

The giant ego it takes to make some think that they can read and understand a JAMA article with zero medical training....is impressive.

Yet here we are, a nation with millions of MD's and virologists popping up overnight.

As for the "failure in communication to the public"....that's about the internet, and millions of Americans pumping citizens full of disinformation for the first time in the history of pandemics. Without the internet? You would have been surprised at how much easier the jobs of our health officials would have been.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Covid-19 research roundup: Jan 11
KATELYN JETELINA

There are several new scientific developments regarding Covid-19 that might be useful to you, given that we are in a big wave right now. Here is a quick research roundup.

Fall 2023 vaccines are effective
What we know: Recommendations for an updated 2023 Covid-19 vaccine were based on lab and some human data. We didn’t have real-world data or clinical trial efficacy data. (This follows a similar model to the flu.)

New info: Vaccine effectiveness data is rolling in:

70% effectiveness against hospitalization (preprint; Netherlands; among 60+ year-olds previously vaccinated).

Another study found significant added protection for (at least) 30 days against emergency department use, outpatient use, and hospitalization. (Kaiser; among those over 18 years.)

Why does this matter? If you’re up-to-date on vaccines, you can be confident it’s providing additional protection.

Vaccines help protect against long covid
What we know: Vaccines have many benefits, including preventing long covid. We didn’t know the incremental benefit of additional doses.

New info: A recent study showed that the more vaccines you get, the less likely you will get long covid. This is called a dose-response relationship: One dose of vaccine reduces risk by 21%, 2 doses reduce by 59%, and 3+ doses reduce by 73%.

Why does it matter? Most people still pay attention to Covid-19 to prevent long covid. Keeping up with vaccines helps a lot.

Children and vaccines
New info: We’ve been lacking real-world effectiveness data among children lately. The evidence is flooding in now. Four recent studies show:

Vaccines were highly effective against infection and severe disease across all pandemic periods. Across 4 Nordic countries, for example, there was 73% vaccine effectiveness against severe disease among adolescents. The risk difference was 2 per 10,000 adolescents vaccinated.

Vaccines are safe. The rate and cause of sudden cardiac death in young people was not due to vaccines during the pandemic. One study even included autopsy investigations.

Transmission takes hours
New info: Transmission increased linearly by 1% chance per hour. Most transmission resulted from exposures lasting one hour to several days. Households accounted for 6% of contacts but 40% of transmissions.

Figure from Ferretti et al., 2023.. Nature. Source here.
Why does this matter? Transmission = time x proximity. This may help your risk calculations. Quick passersby at a grocery store are far less risky than staying in a house with someone infected.

JN.1 is more severe?
New info: Lab data suggests that JN.1 (the dominant subvariant today) is more severe on a microscopic level than other Omicron variants.

Why does this matter? We don’t know whether this has implications on an individual level (i.e., feeling more crappy). But, it does not seem to affect a population level (hospitalizations are less common than last year). Regardless, it may be worth doubling down on protections right now.

Covid-19 viral load peaking later
What we knew: The virus and our immunity wall have changed significantly over time, which may have implications for antigen testing.

New info: A new study showed that, during the Omicron era, viral load peaked (i.e., had low values in the graph below) on days 3-4. This is very different than the beginning of the pandemic when it peaked at the start of symptoms. (They also looked at the flu, which peaked on days 1-2.)

Original image from Frediani et al., 2023; Annotations by YLE
Why does this matter? You may not reliably test positive on a rapid antigen test until the third, fourth, or even fifth day of symptoms. This raises questions on how best to use tests, too, like with Paxlovid (which needs to be given within 5 days of symptoms) and isolation.

No seasonality?
What we knew: Other viruses are sensitive to temperatures, partially explaining the seasonality patterns of flu and the common cold, for example.

What’s new: A recent animal study suggested SARS-CoV-2 transmission is not driven by temperature or humidity changes. SARS-CoV-2 remains capable of transmission under a variety of temperature and humidity conditions. This is surprising.

Why does this matter? We will likely continue to see multiple waves per year, as human behavior and immune status dominantly determine when we get waves of Covid-19 infection, not the environment.

Bottom line
Although we are four years into this thing, we still learn every day. Yes, science can still help us make better and more informed decisions.

I need posts like this, because it is easy to fall prey to "self gaslighting" regarding maybe just perhaps wishing I hadn't been jabbed. There does seem to be at least some new medical papers coming out addressing some of the claims being bandied about regarding those heart attacks and other health issue attributions. It still feels difficult to get confidence inducing data. That failure in communication to the public leaves many, including myself, feeling a bit uncertain.

Solution is simple: ignore these papers. We're not qualified to understand what they say, and what they DON'T say.

Ask your personal doctor. Get a second opinion, if you like. Ask all your questions. But always communicate with doctors. More importantly, your doctor will know YOUR personal medical history. They might tell you to get vaxxed, and they might not.

The giant ego it takes to make some think that they can read and understand a JAMA article with zero medical training....is impressive.

Yet here we are, a nation with millions of MD's and virologists popping up overnight.

As for the "failure in communication to the public"....that's about the internet, and millions of Americans pumping citizens full of disinformation for the first time in the history of pandemics. Without the internet? You would have been surprised at how much easier the jobs of our health officials would have been.

I asked one of my friends why didn’t he get the last COVID shot and he said he really doesn’t have a good answer. I asked if he got the flu vaccine and he said yes but he said he really can’t say why he didn’t get the latest COVID vaccine. He admitted that it’s not logical. The reality is the internet has made people dumber.

[a fan]

I asked one of my friends why didn’t he get the last COVID shot and he said he really doesn’t have a good answer. I asked if he got the flu vaccine and he said yes but he said he really can’t say why he didn’t get the latest COVID vaccine. He admitted that it’s not logical. The reality is the internet has made people dumber.

I said it before, and I'll say it again:

If Covid happened during the Reagan era? Pre-internet? The EXACT people who were rabid anti-covid nutjobs?

They'd all....every one of them....be handing out coffee and donuts in school parking lots for Vaccine drives. To a person.

This is the part that I LOATHE about the internet, and what it's done to humans.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I asked one of my friends why didn’t he get the last COVID shot and he said he really doesn’t have a good answer. I asked if he got the flu vaccine and he said yes but he said he really can’t say why he didn’t get the latest COVID vaccine. He admitted that it’s not logical. The reality is the internet has made people dumber.

I said it before, and I'll say it again:

If Covid happened during the Reagan era? Pre-internet? The EXACT people who were rabid anti-covid nutjobs?

They'd all....every one of them....be handing out coffee and donuts in school parking lots for Vaccine drives. To a person.

This is the part that I LOATHE about the internet, and what it's done to humans.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6502424/

Do your own research or read non mainstream sources for the real information…..Animal Farm stuff.

[Farfromgeneva]

Covid-19 research roundup: Jan 11
KATELYN JETELINA

There are several new scientific developments regarding Covid-19 that might be useful to you, given that we are in a big wave right now. Here is a quick research roundup.

Fall 2023 vaccines are effective
What we know: Recommendations for an updated 2023 Covid-19 vaccine were based on lab and some human data. We didn’t have real-world data or clinical trial efficacy data. (This follows a similar model to the flu.)

New info: Vaccine effectiveness data is rolling in:

70% effectiveness against hospitalization (preprint; Netherlands; among 60+ year-olds previously vaccinated).

Another study found significant added protection for (at least) 30 days against emergency department use, outpatient use, and hospitalization. (Kaiser; among those over 18 years.)

Why does this matter? If you’re up-to-date on vaccines, you can be confident it’s providing additional protection.

Vaccines help protect against long covid
What we know: Vaccines have many benefits, including preventing long covid. We didn’t know the incremental benefit of additional doses.

New info: A recent study showed that the more vaccines you get, the less likely you will get long covid. This is called a dose-response relationship: One dose of vaccine reduces risk by 21%, 2 doses reduce by 59%, and 3+ doses reduce by 73%.

Why does it matter? Most people still pay attention to Covid-19 to prevent long covid. Keeping up with vaccines helps a lot.

Children and vaccines
New info: We’ve been lacking real-world effectiveness data among children lately. The evidence is flooding in now. Four recent studies show:

Vaccines were highly effective against infection and severe disease across all pandemic periods. Across 4 Nordic countries, for example, there was 73% vaccine effectiveness against severe disease among adolescents. The risk difference was 2 per 10,000 adolescents vaccinated.

Vaccines are safe. The rate and cause of sudden cardiac death in young people was not due to vaccines during the pandemic. One study even included autopsy investigations.

Transmission takes hours
New info: Transmission increased linearly by 1% chance per hour. Most transmission resulted from exposures lasting one hour to several days. Households accounted for 6% of contacts but 40% of transmissions.

Figure from Ferretti et al., 2023.. Nature. Source here.
Why does this matter? Transmission = time x proximity. This may help your risk calculations. Quick passersby at a grocery store are far less risky than staying in a house with someone infected.

JN.1 is more severe?
New info: Lab data suggests that JN.1 (the dominant subvariant today) is more severe on a microscopic level than other Omicron variants.

Why does this matter? We don’t know whether this has implications on an individual level (i.e., feeling more crappy). But, it does not seem to affect a population level (hospitalizations are less common than last year). Regardless, it may be worth doubling down on protections right now.

Covid-19 viral load peaking later
What we knew: The virus and our immunity wall have changed significantly over time, which may have implications for antigen testing.

New info: A new study showed that, during the Omicron era, viral load peaked (i.e., had low values in the graph below) on days 3-4. This is very different than the beginning of the pandemic when it peaked at the start of symptoms. (They also looked at the flu, which peaked on days 1-2.)

Original image from Frediani et al., 2023; Annotations by YLE
Why does this matter? You may not reliably test positive on a rapid antigen test until the third, fourth, or even fifth day of symptoms. This raises questions on how best to use tests, too, like with Paxlovid (which needs to be given within 5 days of symptoms) and isolation.

No seasonality?
What we knew: Other viruses are sensitive to temperatures, partially explaining the seasonality patterns of flu and the common cold, for example.

What’s new: A recent animal study suggested SARS-CoV-2 transmission is not driven by temperature or humidity changes. SARS-CoV-2 remains capable of transmission under a variety of temperature and humidity conditions. This is surprising.

Why does this matter? We will likely continue to see multiple waves per year, as human behavior and immune status dominantly determine when we get waves of Covid-19 infection, not the environment.

Bottom line
Although we are four years into this thing, we still learn every day. Yes, science can still help us make better and more informed decisions.

I need posts like this, because it is easy to fall prey to "self gaslighting" regarding maybe just perhaps wishing I hadn't been jabbed. There does seem to be at least some new medical papers coming out addressing some of the claims being bandied about regarding those heart attacks and other health issue attributions. It still feels difficult to get confidence inducing data. That failure in communication to the public leaves many, including myself, feeling a bit uncertain.

Solution is simple: ignore these papers. We're not qualified to understand what they say, and what they DON'T say.

Ask your personal doctor. Get a second opinion, if you like. Ask all your questions. But always communicate with doctors. More importantly, your doctor will know YOUR personal medical history. They might tell you to get vaxxed, and they might not.

The giant ego it takes to make some think that they can read and understand a JAMA article with zero medical training....is impressive.

Yet here we are, a nation with millions of MD's and virologists popping up overnight.

As for the "failure in communication to the public"....that's about the internet, and millions of Americans pumping citizens full of disinformation for the first time in the history of pandemics. Without the internet? You would have been surprised at how much easier the jobs of our health officials would have been.

I asked one of my friends why didn’t he get the last COVID shot and he said he really doesn’t have a good answer. I asked if he got the flu vaccine and he said yes but he said he really can’t say why he didn’t get the latest COVID vaccine. He admitted that it’s not logical. The reality is the internet has made people dumber.

The answer is “inertia” same as for me. I rarely get the flu shot either though unless it’s under my nose and I feel like I’ve got time to burn (2-3/10yrs or so, maybe 8-9 of the last 20yrs max on flu shot)

I don’t think it’s the internet as much as people being focused on rebuilding or repairing. Lots of damage and decay for people, kids lost a ton parents have to find a way to make up for as much as 24-30 lost months of development. Work, stimulus, illness and family issues, changes in the economy etc). Once folks think the peak is over and I am comfortable that’s the general median or average perception at this stage, just with new awareness, they aren’t gong to continue to drop everything for a lower probability risk (and seemingly lower damage/harmful outcomes it appears). It’s a narrative mistake sometimes but that’s psychology before the internet.

Me, I’m a risk taker. I can’t define the reward here but the cost seems low so may as well keep trying to spin the machine back up after a few nasty awful years.

[tech37]

Some guys on the internet... a couple real dummies spreading misinformation

https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/sta ... 7695900809

[Typical Lax Dad]

Some guys on the internet... a couple real dummies spreading misinformation

https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/sta ... 7695900809

Thanks

[a fan]

Some guys on the internet... a couple real dummies spreading misinformation

https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/sta ... 7695900809

Want me to summarize?

"We still don't have evidence of where Coronavirus started".

I love how your mind works, where no matter what, Fauci et. al. were doing it wrong, and TeamTinFoil is right.


What you are telling us with your mockery is that you wanted Fauci to tell you that the leak likely came from the Chinese lab, even though no one had evidence of this in 2020. Still don't in 2024, but your theories don't need evidence, naturally. Only Fauci has to have evidence for things.

Did you get that? You wanted Fauci to tell you where Covid came from without evidence, while at the same time, you have lost your mind if Fauci ever told you something about Covid that didn't have evidence and scientific backing. Hammering him for trying to fly a plane while building it, instead of trying to help him with his task.


Cool. Keep this way of thinking going. It's awesome.

This is why I keep asking you: what would YOU have done.

You just can't figure out that if you put the head of TeamTinFoil in charge of Covid.....you and your fellow TeamTinFoils would throw stones at what they did. You don't understand that no matter what the US response was, you and your buds were going to tell them "they're doing it wrong".



Here's the parallel to this point: a former TeamTinFoil "the election is fraudulent" Trumper took office managing his counties elections. Want the short version of what happened? TeamTinFoil member gets elected to run County Elections in 2022, and runs it according to TeamTinFoil rules.

How does TeamTinFoil react? How the F do you think they reacted? Now this elected official and guy who was on their side ......is "in on the conspiracy". He wound up quitting the job because of threats, and the fact that no matter what he did, TeamTinFoil told him he was fixing elections. Awesome, right?

And now this man understands how freaking stupid he was behaving when he was a card-carrying member of TeamTinFoil: that no matter what he did, or how well he handled the election, TeamTinFoil would be there to tell him he's part of the problem, and "doing it wrong".

He now knows that there is no such thing as "doing it right" in the eyes of TeamTinFoil. You still haven't figured that out. Best of luck in the next pandemic. Want to get a preview of how the US .gov and our State Governors are handling it?

"They're doing it wrong".


Headline: Not MAGA enough: 2020 election skeptic quit his job after facing blowback from angry election deniers

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/12/politics ... index.html

[a fan]

Some guys on the internet... a couple real dummies spreading misinformation

https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/sta ... 7695900809

Want me to summarize?

"We still don't have direct evidence of where Coronavirus started".

I love how your mind works, where no matter what, Fauci et. al. were doing it wrong, and TeamTinFoil is right.


What you are telling us with your mockery is that you wanted Fauci to tell you that the leak likely came from the Chinese lab, even though no one had evidence of this in 2020. Still don't in 2024, but your theories don't need evidence, naturally. Only Fauci has to have evidence for things.

Did you get that? You wanted Fauci to tell you where Covid came from without evidence, while at the same time, you have lost your mind if Fauci ever told you something about Covid that didn't have evidence and scientific backing. Hammering him for trying to fly a plane while building it, instead of trying to help him with his task.


Cool. Keep this way of thinking going. It's awesome.

This is why I keep asking you: what would YOU have done.

You just can't figure out that if you put the head of TeamTinFoil in charge of Covid.....you and your fellow TeamTinFoils would throw stones at what they did. You don't understand that no matter what the US response was, you and your buds were going to tell them "they're doing it wrong".



Here's the parallel to this point: a former TeamTinFoil "the election is fraudulent" Trumper took office managing his counties elections. Want the short version of what happened? TeamTinFoil member gets elected to run County Elections in 2022, and runs it according to TeamTinFoil rules.

How does TeamTinFoil react? How the F do you think they reacted? Now this elected official and guy who was on their side ......is "in on the conspiracy". He wound up quitting the job because of threats, and the fact that no matter what he did, TeamTinFoil told him he was fixing elections. Awesome, right?

And now this man understands how freaking stupid he was behaving when he was a card-carrying member of TeamTinFoil: that no matter what he did, or how well he handled the election, TeamTinFoil would be there to tell him he's part of the problem, and "doing it wrong".

He now knows that there is no such thing as "doing it right" in the eyes of TeamTinFoil. You still haven't figured that out. Best of luck in the next pandemic. Want to get a preview of how the US .gov and our State Governors are handling it?

"They're doing it wrong".


Headline: Not MAGA enough: 2020 election skeptic quit his job after facing blowback from angry election deniers

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/12/politics ... index.html

[Typical Lax Dad]

Some guys on the internet... a couple real dummies spreading misinformation

https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/sta ... 7695900809

Want me to summarize?

"We still don't have direct evidence of where Coronavirus started".

I love how your mind works, where no matter what, Fauci et. al. were doing it wrong, and TeamTinFoil is right.


What you are telling us with your mockery is that you wanted Fauci to tell you that the leak likely came from the Chinese lab, even though no one had evidence of this in 2020. Still don't in 2024, but your theories don't need evidence, naturally. Only Fauci has to have evidence for things.

Did you get that? You wanted Fauci to tell you where Covid came from without evidence, while at the same time, you have lost your mind if Fauci ever told you something about Covid that didn't have evidence and scientific backing. Hammering him for trying to fly a plane while building it, instead of trying to help him with his task.


Cool. Keep this way of thinking going. It's awesome.

This is why I keep asking you: what would YOU have done.

You just can't figure out that if you put the head of TeamTinFoil in charge of Covid.....you and your fellow TeamTinFoils would throw stones at what they did. You don't understand that no matter what the US response was, you and your buds were going to tell them "they're doing it wrong".



Here's the parallel to this point: a former TeamTinFoil "the election is fraudulent" Trumper took office managing his counties elections. Want the short version of what happened? TeamTinFoil member gets elected to run County Elections in 2022, and runs it according to TeamTinFoil rules.

How does TeamTinFoil react? How the F do you think they reacted? Now this elected official and guy who was on their side ......is "in on the conspiracy". He wound up quitting the job because of threats, and the fact that no matter what he did, TeamTinFoil told him he was fixing elections. Awesome, right?

And now this man understands how freaking stupid he was behaving when he was a card-carrying member of TeamTinFoil: that no matter what he did, or how well he handled the election, TeamTinFoil would be there to tell him he's part of the problem, and "doing it wrong".

He now knows that there is no such thing as "doing it right" in the eyes of TeamTinFoil. You still haven't figured that out. Best of luck in the next pandemic. Want to get a preview of how the US .gov and our State Governors are handling it?

"They're doing it wrong".


Headline: Not MAGA enough: 2020 election skeptic quit his job after facing blowback from angry election deniers

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/12/politics ... index.html

Them chinks is enough evidence.

[Farfromgeneva]

Some guys on the internet... a couple real dummies spreading misinformation

https://twitter.com/DrJBhattacharya/sta ... 7695900809

Want me to summarize?

"We still don't have evidence of where Coronavirus started".

I love how your mind works, where no matter what, Fauci et. al. were doing it wrong, and TeamTinFoil is right.


What you are telling us with your mockery is that you wanted Fauci to tell you that the leak likely came from the Chinese lab, even though no one had evidence of this in 2020. Still don't in 2024, but your theories don't need evidence, naturally. Only Fauci has to have evidence for things.

Did you get that? You wanted Fauci to tell you where Covid came from without evidence, while at the same time, you have lost your mind if Fauci ever told you something about Covid that didn't have evidence and scientific backing. Hammering him for trying to fly a plane while building it, instead of trying to help him with his task.


Cool. Keep this way of thinking going. It's awesome.

This is why I keep asking you: what would YOU have done.

You just can't figure out that if you put the head of TeamTinFoil in charge of Covid.....you and your fellow TeamTinFoils would throw stones at what they did. You don't understand that no matter what the US response was, you and your buds were going to tell them "they're doing it wrong".



Here's the parallel to this point: a former TeamTinFoil "the election is fraudulent" Trumper took office managing his counties elections. Want the short version of what happened? TeamTinFoil member gets elected to run County Elections in 2022, and runs it according to TeamTinFoil rules.

How does TeamTinFoil react? How the F do you think they reacted? Now this elected official and guy who was on their side ......is "in on the conspiracy". He wound up quitting the job because of threats, and the fact that no matter what he did, TeamTinFoil told him he was fixing elections. Awesome, right?

And now this man understands how freaking stupid he was behaving when he was a card-carrying member of TeamTinFoil: that no matter what he did, or how well he handled the election, TeamTinFoil would be there to tell him he's part of the problem, and "doing it wrong".

He now knows that there is no such thing as "doing it right" in the eyes of TeamTinFoil. You still haven't figured that out. Best of luck in the next pandemic. Want to get a preview of how the US .gov and our State Governors are handling it?

"They're doing it wrong".


Headline: Not MAGA enough: 2020 election skeptic quit his job after facing blowback from angry election deniers

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/12/politics ... index.html

Losers have to convince themselves of an alternate reality.