Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

[cradleandshoot]

The last time this affair got CLOSE to resolution, with what they called the "Gang of Eight" Senators, four from each party as i recall...they got up against a vote to approve this comprehensive immigration reform and at the very last minute, the deal got scuttled by a group of hard-right conservatives over the whole "pathway to citizenship" model in the legislation. They started screaming "amnesty" and the deal was murdered in it's cradle.

This is just low-rent, junior varsity level logic.

We're giving all the people here illegally amnesty RIGHT NOW. That ship has sailed. It's idiotic to think otherwise.

The ONLY question is: what do we do with them now that they are here?

Just to be clear, the "low rent, junior varsity level logic" is what torpedoed the comprehensive immigration legislation last time and what persists to this day. Baselessly keeping the issue simmering for political point-scoring during an election cycle is flat BULLSHIRT! Another very clear example of the bankrupt " "thought" process lurking in the rightwingnut lizard brain.

..

So is it cool and groovy to send the medical bill for these new arrivals direct to your mailbox? Good opportunity for you to put your money where your mouth is. Your all about something you excel at...spending other peoples money...

[kramerica.inc]

Mexican president demands work visas, $20B in US aid to help curb illegal immigration:

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/nation ... ern-border#

Sounds like a deal. For just a fraction of the Ukraine money we could end this humanitarian crisis.

[youthathletics]

Mexican president demands work visas, $20B in US aid to help curb illegal immigration:

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/nation ... ern-border#

Sounds like a deal. For just a fraction of the Ukraine money we could end this humanitarian crisis.

Following the cartel model, great.

[cradleandshoot]

Mexican president demands work visas, $20B in US aid to help curb illegal immigration:

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/nation ... ern-border#

Sounds like a deal. For just a fraction of the Ukraine money we could end this humanitarian crisis.

Following the cartel model, great.

Are there any 155mm artillery shells in the deal? I'm sure the cartel has a few howitzers floating around somewhere.

[youthathletics]

NY Congresswoman Clarke wants the bodies to redistrict: https://x.com/endwokeness/status/174434 ... a82I2GssRg

[NattyBohChamps04]

NY Congresswoman Clarke wants the bodies to redistrict: https://x.com/endwokeness/status/174434 ... a82I2GssRg

So you like to complain when the other side does what you're doing? That's fun stuff my man!

Democrats are pretty idiotic in politics. Only took like 30 years to say they can do the same stuff as R's. They lost a lot of ground in the process.

[youthathletics]

Cartels taking over Ecuador: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C15ptWDr ... I5YWZtMmxk

[tech37]

IMO the Republicans have a very long history of ineffectual leadership when given the opportunity. A Fan has pointed out the Republicans ran the show when Trump was in charge and couldn't find a fix for the chit show at the southern border.

The border wall proposed by Trump caused the press, politicians and a great many people to lose their minds.

Our law makers on both sides of the aisle are bad at math. The expense of the border wall (estimates from $15-30 billion) was balked at and/or
attacked economically, socially, racially, intellectually, morally, legally, and emotionally.

In the meantime, just 2022's illegal immigration has burdened US taxpayers with an estimated $150 billion price tag. $12.5 billion a month. That's the combined GDP of 14 states.

I won't even go into the statistics regarding violent crimes (murder, rape, felony assault, felony theft) being committed by the illegals who we support better than our veterans.

Anyone have any solutions in mind?

Perhaps this lady does Waffle:

https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/statu ... 6552748195

[a fan]

IMO the Republicans have a very long history of ineffectual leadership when given the opportunity. A Fan has pointed out the Republicans ran the show when Trump was in charge and couldn't find a fix for the chit show at the southern border.

The border wall proposed by Trump caused the press, politicians and a great many people to lose their minds.

Our law makers on both sides of the aisle are bad at math. The expense of the border wall (estimates from $15-30 billion) was balked at and/or
attacked economically, socially, racially, intellectually, morally, legally, and emotionally.

In the meantime, just 2022's illegal immigration has burdened US taxpayers with an estimated $150 billion price tag. $12.5 billion a month. That's the combined GDP of 14 states.

I won't even go into the statistics regarding violent crimes (murder, rape, felony assault, felony theft) being committed by the illegals who we support better than our veterans.

Anyone have any solutions in mind?

Perhaps this lady does Waffle:

https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/statu ... 6552748195

So...vote for Trump, and he'll fix it.

We already saw this play. What happened? Did Trump fix our immigration system and build his wall?

How'd the wall work in Israel, fellas? Awesome, right?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: build the wall so that R's will shut up about it. Anything to get them to see that won't fix the problem.

All you have to so is give the people who are here work VISAs. Now they can work. Now they can be a net benefit, and Waffle's reasonable complaint about costs turns into a massive GDP gain.

Explain why folks don't want to do that? They're here to work. Get the pointless red tape out of the way, and let them work.

[tech37]

IMO the Republicans have a very long history of ineffectual leadership when given the opportunity. A Fan has pointed out the Republicans ran the show when Trump was in charge and couldn't find a fix for the chit show at the southern border.

The border wall proposed by Trump caused the press, politicians and a great many people to lose their minds.

Our law makers on both sides of the aisle are bad at math. The expense of the border wall (estimates from $15-30 billion) was balked at and/or
attacked economically, socially, racially, intellectually, morally, legally, and emotionally.

In the meantime, just 2022's illegal immigration has burdened US taxpayers with an estimated $150 billion price tag. $12.5 billion a month. That's the combined GDP of 14 states.

I won't even go into the statistics regarding violent crimes (murder, rape, felony assault, felony theft) being committed by the illegals who we support better than our veterans.

Anyone have any solutions in mind?

Perhaps this lady does Waffle:

https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/statu ... 6552748195

So...vote for Trump, and he'll fix it.

We already saw this play. What happened? Did Trump fix our immigration system and build his wall?

How'd the wall work in Israel, fellas? Awesome, right?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: build the wall so that R's will shut up about it. Anything to get them to see that won't fix the problem.

All you have to so is give the people who are here work VISAs. Now they can work. Now they can be a net benefit, and Waffle's reasonable complaint about costs turns into a massive GDP gain.

Explain why folks don't want to do that? They're here to work. Get the pointless red tape out of the way, and let them work.

Vote for Trump? That's what you came away with? Seems to me she is chastising both parties equally and politicians in general. And rightly so...

You do make strange reads on a lot of stuff IMO.

[Kismet]

The only thing more dysfunctional than border policies is our POLITICS.

We have a huge low end labor shortage in this country - you could increase work permits to allow these folks to pay taxes and live here - you don't ever have to give any of them citizenship let alone any kind of benefits - treat them exactly the same as the current policy for agriculture including defining labor rates. Start enforcing e-verify as well to prevent companies from gaming the system.

Instead we have stupid politicians like Abbott making things worse by preventing border patrol from accessing the border and the other side screaming about mistreatment and endless other sh*t.

This country is run by two equally incompetent ideologues. A pox on ALL of them.

[a fan]

IMO the Republicans have a very long history of ineffectual leadership when given the opportunity. A Fan has pointed out the Republicans ran the show when Trump was in charge and couldn't find a fix for the chit show at the southern border.

The border wall proposed by Trump caused the press, politicians and a great many people to lose their minds.

Our law makers on both sides of the aisle are bad at math. The expense of the border wall (estimates from $15-30 billion) was balked at and/or
attacked economically, socially, racially, intellectually, morally, legally, and emotionally.

In the meantime, just 2022's illegal immigration has burdened US taxpayers with an estimated $150 billion price tag. $12.5 billion a month. That's the combined GDP of 14 states.

I won't even go into the statistics regarding violent crimes (murder, rape, felony assault, felony theft) being committed by the illegals who we support better than our veterans.

Anyone have any solutions in mind?

Perhaps this lady does Waffle:

https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/statu ... 6552748195

So...vote for Trump, and he'll fix it.

We already saw this play. What happened? Did Trump fix our immigration system and build his wall?

How'd the wall work in Israel, fellas? Awesome, right?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: build the wall so that R's will shut up about it. Anything to get them to see that won't fix the problem.

All you have to so is give the people who are here work VISAs. Now they can work. Now they can be a net benefit, and Waffle's reasonable complaint about costs turns into a massive GDP gain.

Explain why folks don't want to do that? They're here to work. Get the pointless red tape out of the way, and let them work.

Vote for Trump? That's what you came away with? Seems to me she is chastising both parties equally and politicians in general. And rightly so...

You do make strange reads on a lot of stuff IMO.

I was reacting to Waffle's comment about he wall. If you were paying attention, you'd notice that Waffle brought up Trump's wall, not the lady.

[Typical Lax Dad]

The only thing more dysfunctional than border policies is our POLITICS.

We have a huge low end labor shortage in this country - you could increase work permits to allow these folks to pay taxes and live here - you don't ever have to give any of them citizenship let alone any kind of benefits - treat them exactly the same as the current policy for agriculture including defining labor rates. Start enforcing e-verify as well to prevent companies from gaming the system.

Instead we have stupid politicians like Abbott making things worse by preventing border patrol from accessing the border and the other side screaming about mistreatment and endless other sh*t.

This country is run by two equally incompetent ideologues. A pox on ALL of them.

+1000

[a fan]

The only thing more dysfunctional than border policies is our POLITICS.

We have a huge low end labor shortage in this country - you could increase work permits to allow these folks to pay taxes and live here - you don't ever have to give any of them citizenship let alone any kind of benefits - treat them exactly the same as the current policy for agriculture including defining labor rates. Start enforcing e-verify as well to prevent companies from gaming the system.

Instead we have stupid politicians like Abbott making things worse by preventing border patrol from accessing the border and the other side screaming about mistreatment and endless other sh*t.

This country is run by two equally incompetent ideologues. A pox on ALL of them.

+1000

Yep. That's the Solution. Give them all work visas. Alllllll the complaints about them getting sh(t for free goes away. They are DESPERATE to work, and employers are DESPERATE for these exact workers.

Drives me nuts that no one has the stones to get this done.

[youthathletics]

The only thing more dysfunctional than border policies is our POLITICS.

We have a huge low end labor shortage in this country - you could increase work permits to allow these folks to pay taxes and live here - you don't ever have to give any of them citizenship let alone any kind of benefits - treat them exactly the same as the current policy for agriculture including defining labor rates. Start enforcing e-verify as well to prevent companies from gaming the system.

Instead we have stupid politicians like Abbott making things worse by preventing border patrol from accessing the border and the other side screaming about mistreatment and endless other sh*t.

This country is run by two equally incompetent ideologues. A pox on ALL of them.

+1000

Yep. That's the Solution. Give them all work visas. Alllllll the complaints about them getting sh(t for free goes away. They are DESPERATE to work, and employers are DESPERATE for these exact workers.

Drives me nuts that no one has the stones to get this done.

Actually...then the complaints will be that the Allllllll those granted work visas now took all the jobs our lazy asses didnt want to do. Karens never stop.....they just can't help themselves.

[a fan]

The only thing more dysfunctional than border policies is our POLITICS.

We have a huge low end labor shortage in this country - you could increase work permits to allow these folks to pay taxes and live here - you don't ever have to give any of them citizenship let alone any kind of benefits - treat them exactly the same as the current policy for agriculture including defining labor rates. Start enforcing e-verify as well to prevent companies from gaming the system.

Instead we have stupid politicians like Abbott making things worse by preventing border patrol from accessing the border and the other side screaming about mistreatment and endless other sh*t.

This country is run by two equally incompetent ideologues. A pox on ALL of them.

+1000

Yep. That's the Solution. Give them all work visas. Alllllll the complaints about them getting sh(t for free goes away. They are DESPERATE to work, and employers are DESPERATE for these exact workers.

Drives me nuts that no one has the stones to get this done.

Actually...then the complaints will be that the Allllllll those granted work visas now took all the jobs our lazy asses didnt want to do. Karens never stop.....they just can't help themselves.

You're totally right. 100%.

[Typical Lax Dad]

The only thing more dysfunctional than border policies is our POLITICS.

We have a huge low end labor shortage in this country - you could increase work permits to allow these folks to pay taxes and live here - you don't ever have to give any of them citizenship let alone any kind of benefits - treat them exactly the same as the current policy for agriculture including defining labor rates. Start enforcing e-verify as well to prevent companies from gaming the system.

Instead we have stupid politicians like Abbott making things worse by preventing border patrol from accessing the border and the other side screaming about mistreatment and endless other sh*t.

This country is run by two equally incompetent ideologues. A pox on ALL of them.

+1000

Yep. That's the Solution. Give them all work visas. Alllllll the complaints about them getting sh(t for free goes away. They are DESPERATE to work, and employers are DESPERATE for these exact workers.

Drives me nuts that no one has the stones to get this done.

It’s an issue to drive people to vote. Neither side will do anything about it, really. I have been saying it for years.

[Kismet]

It’s an issue to drive people to vote. Neither side will do anything about it, really. I have been saying it for years.

Gee - are we THAT bad that RESULTS don't incentivize folks to vote?

[Typical Lax Dad]

It’s an issue to drive people to vote. Neither side will do anything about it, really. I have been saying it for years.

Gee - are we THAT bad that RESULTS don't incentivize folks to vote?

Unfortunately not. I tell people that the Republicans realized under Obama that doing nothing but villainizing the other side, gets people out to vote. Politicians realize you have a better chance of staying in office if nobody can point to anything that you supported but didn’t work out.

[cradleandshoot]

IMO the Republicans have a very long history of ineffectual leadership when given the opportunity. A Fan has pointed out the Republicans ran the show when Trump was in charge and couldn't find a fix for the chit show at the southern border.

The border wall proposed by Trump caused the press, politicians and a great many people to lose their minds.

Our law makers on both sides of the aisle are bad at math. The expense of the border wall (estimates from $15-30 billion) was balked at and/or
attacked economically, socially, racially, intellectually, morally, legally, and emotionally.

In the meantime, just 2022's illegal immigration has burdened US taxpayers with an estimated $150 billion price tag. $12.5 billion a month. That's the combined GDP of 14 states.

I won't even go into the statistics regarding violent crimes (murder, rape, felony assault, felony theft) being committed by the illegals who we support better than our veterans.

Anyone have any solutions in mind?

Perhaps this lady does Waffle:

https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/statu ... 6552748195

So...vote for Trump, and he'll fix it.

We already saw this play. What happened? Did Trump fix our immigration system and build his wall?

How'd the wall work in Israel, fellas? Awesome, right?

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: build the wall so that R's will shut up about it. Anything to get them to see that won't fix the problem.

All you have to so is give the people who are here work VISAs. Now they can work. Now they can be a net benefit, and Waffle's reasonable complaint about costs turns into a massive GDP gain.

Explain why folks don't want to do that? They're here to work. Get the pointless red tape out of the way, and let them work.