youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:09 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:25 am
youthathletics wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:35 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:31 am
Back up the bus there. I have been advised by the liberal elite on this forum otherwise. Everybody knows it's FOX that is doing all of the brainwashing. Hell I've been accused many times on this forum for having been brainwashed by FOX. The fact I NEVER listen to FOX doesn't matter. I guess this is true to form for FLP radical ideology. The seriousness of the accusations and all the other typical FLP meadow muffins.
Not to mention, we've seen others around here attempt to brainwash us that the Wall Street Journal is now gone too far right.
Nope, just the editorial slant which has grown further right under Murdoch ownership. Posters on here have many times said that that the WSJ's straight reporting has been and remains by and large trustworthy, actual journalism. Trying to get the facts right before publishing, publicly correcting errors when they happen. No systematic lying on provable facts. Not an absence of mistakes, but a clear effort to 'get it right'. Basic journalistic ethics. Never perfect, but trying to cover the world truthfully.
What I find "interesting" in that graphic (haven't looked at the methodology, but just taking on face value) is that Republicans trust so little of the media, even have very low positive trust of the WSJ.
Negative on nearly everything else except a handful of organizations...organizations which not only allow outright lying on the facts without challenge, their own hosts do so on the regular, without public correction; proven...those are the only outlets with high levels of GOP "trust".
Ouch.
Also of note of course is that some of the orgs that are definitely left-leaning have high trust levels among Dems, though their editorial slant permeates the 'straight' reporting. Do they outright lie systematically? I dunno, I don't think so, but the editorial bias is quite strong.
Obviously, the psychology of "trust" is related to whether the content reinforces already held beliefs. Similar to the 'value' people place on a good or service once they've bought it. Pre-purchase, the value is lower...goes up markedly post purchase. Same for voting. Once a vote is cast, humans tend to self-justify and their esteem for who they voted for goes up and hardens.
So, tech and youth,
why do you think so many people (mostly Republicans) have very low trust levels of actual journalism (trying to get the facts right, public correction, etc) regardless of editorial slant? Do demographics have anything to do with it?
Do many decades of Republicans and alternative media telling them not to trust journalists have anything to do with it? Enemies of the State?
Maybe b/c during the entire term of BHO, we were bamboozled with the glaring media and political symbiotic relationship, front and center. It only got worse from there, and it was the breeding ground for growth of all the spinoffs. But, rather than arguing, we'll just take what you say as gospel and blame it all on the right; MAGA, rinse, repeat. Further, you can not blindly avoid mentioning the confirmation bias factor of the left. Media, has become a business, a big one....and most know this, others refuse to admit or acknowledge it, and would rather just theorize it a right wing issue...sound familiar?
I confess that I can't parse your logic.
Confirmation bias isn't left or right, and I'm not blaming the "right wing" for that psychological reality.
You seem to be saying that you think this distrust of
journalism is just since 2008?
Just happened because "journalism" had a what, "symbiotic relationship" with Obama??? Did they lie on his behalf, breach journalistic ethics? No correction?
Or are you saying that it just freaked Republicans out that Obama was President for two terms? What was it about Obama that was
so horrible?
I do agree that the election of Obama was a big shock to many. As was gay marriage.
And I think the 'left' exacerbated this shock with all the pronouncements about demographics...true, though they may be (and indeed, the GOP leadership after 2012 knew it; the 2013 GOP strategy reflected the need to build a more diverse appeal, but that went out the door with Trump's and MAGA ascendance). But those predictions gave those who were afraid of the demographics a talking point which sat side by side with "the great replacement theory" extremists, now mainstreamed on the right.
So, sure, Obama was scary...
Again, look at the chart and how low the trust level is by Republicans for anything other than the handful of media sources which flat out promote lying? Not even significant trust for the WSJ?
Does this not go hand in hand with the attack on "elites" and "experts" ?