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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:59 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:51 am Interesting article in the Times this AM:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opin ... thing.html
Nice read. I had not heard of them and do not see them on the list of American Made Clothiers. It is a topic certainly worth further investing time and attention.....the prices are 2x to 3x more than their counterparts (overseas) products. It's really hard to fathom, without having a nose in the ledger sheet of two similar companies where one is entirely american made vs not.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd ... ing-brands
YA, thanks for posting this list. Nice resource, and a lot of nice apparel.

Tech, yeah, the Waxmans sure sound like deeply principled people. I'm going to find something to buy from them.
Good buddy of mine is at LL Bean this week. They are one client of company he works for. He's a supply chain consultant.

Unlike Waxmans, doubt Bean makes everything in America ;)
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tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:59 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:51 am Interesting article in the Times this AM:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opin ... thing.html
Nice read. I had not heard of them and do not see them on the list of American Made Clothiers. It is a topic certainly worth further investing time and attention.....the prices are 2x to 3x more than their counterparts (overseas) products. It's really hard to fathom, without having a nose in the ledger sheet of two similar companies where one is entirely american made vs not.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd ... ing-brands
YA, thanks for posting this list. Nice resource, and a lot of nice apparel.

Tech, yeah, the Waxmans sure sound like deeply principled people. I'm going to find something to buy from them.
Good buddy of mine is at LL Bean this week. They are one client of company he works for. He's a supply chain consultant.

Unlike Waxmans, doubt Bean makes everything in America ;)
Hah! Well, your pal would likely have a pretty good idea if LL Bean sources from US-Only vendors. I would bet nearly everything I own that the answer is NO.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:39 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:59 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:51 am Interesting article in the Times this AM:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opin ... thing.html
Nice read. I had not heard of them and do not see them on the list of American Made Clothiers. It is a topic certainly worth further investing time and attention.....the prices are 2x to 3x more than their counterparts (overseas) products. It's really hard to fathom, without having a nose in the ledger sheet of two similar companies where one is entirely american made vs not.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd ... ing-brands
YA, thanks for posting this list. Nice resource, and a lot of nice apparel.

Tech, yeah, the Waxmans sure sound like deeply principled people. I'm going to find something to buy from them.
Good buddy of mine is at LL Bean this week. They are one client of company he works for. He's a supply chain consultant.

Unlike Waxmans, doubt Bean makes everything in America ;)
Hah! Well, your pal would likely have a pretty good idea if LL Bean sources from US-Only vendors. I would bet nearly everything I own that the answer is NO.
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tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:39 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:59 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:51 am Interesting article in the Times this AM:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opin ... thing.html
Nice read. I had not heard of them and do not see them on the list of American Made Clothiers. It is a topic certainly worth further investing time and attention.....the prices are 2x to 3x more than their counterparts (overseas) products. It's really hard to fathom, without having a nose in the ledger sheet of two similar companies where one is entirely american made vs not.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd ... ing-brands
YA, thanks for posting this list. Nice resource, and a lot of nice apparel.

Tech, yeah, the Waxmans sure sound like deeply principled people. I'm going to find something to buy from them.
Good buddy of mine is at LL Bean this week. They are one client of company he works for. He's a supply chain consultant.

Unlike Waxmans, doubt Bean makes everything in America ;)
Hah! Well, your pal would likely have a pretty good idea if LL Bean sources from US-Only vendors. I would bet nearly everything I own that the answer is NO.
Indeed!
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:31 pm
tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:39 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:59 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:51 am Interesting article in the Times this AM:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opin ... thing.html
Nice read. I had not heard of them and do not see them on the list of American Made Clothiers. It is a topic certainly worth further investing time and attention.....the prices are 2x to 3x more than their counterparts (overseas) products. It's really hard to fathom, without having a nose in the ledger sheet of two similar companies where one is entirely american made vs not.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd ... ing-brands
YA, thanks for posting this list. Nice resource, and a lot of nice apparel.

Tech, yeah, the Waxmans sure sound like deeply principled people. I'm going to find something to buy from them.
Good buddy of mine is at LL Bean this week. They are one client of company he works for. He's a supply chain consultant.

Unlike Waxmans, doubt Bean makes everything in America ;)
Hah! Well, your pal would likely have a pretty good idea if LL Bean sources from US-Only vendors. I would bet nearly everything I own that the answer is NO.
Indeed!
Their return policies were like no other. You could return a pair of used duck boots that were breaking down after 15 years And they send you a new pair. Don’t think they do that any longer.
Yep. Been a customer of theirs for years, in part because of this policy.
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:59 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:51 am Interesting article in the Times this AM:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opin ... thing.html
Nice read. I had not heard of them and do not see them on the list of American Made Clothiers. It is a topic certainly worth further investing time and attention.....the prices are 2x to 3x more than their counterparts (overseas) products. It's really hard to fathom, without having a nose in the ledger sheet of two similar companies where one is entirely american made vs not.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd ... ing-brands
Thanks for posting this. I remember arguing with a guy about what buying a pack of underwear from Walmart at $3.00 was going to do to this country. That was 25 years ago.
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a fan wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:56 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:31 pm
tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:39 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:59 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:51 am Interesting article in the Times this AM:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opin ... thing.html
Nice read. I had not heard of them and do not see them on the list of American Made Clothiers. It is a topic certainly worth further investing time and attention.....the prices are 2x to 3x more than their counterparts (overseas) products. It's really hard to fathom, without having a nose in the ledger sheet of two similar companies where one is entirely american made vs not.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd ... ing-brands
YA, thanks for posting this list. Nice resource, and a lot of nice apparel.

Tech, yeah, the Waxmans sure sound like deeply principled people. I'm going to find something to buy from them.
Good buddy of mine is at LL Bean this week. They are one client of company he works for. He's a supply chain consultant.

Unlike Waxmans, doubt Bean makes everything in America ;)
Hah! Well, your pal would likely have a pretty good idea if LL Bean sources from US-Only vendors. I would bet nearly everything I own that the answer is NO.
Indeed!
Their return policies were like no other. You could return a pair of used duck boots that were breaking down after 15 years And they send you a new pair. Don’t think they do that any longer.
Yep. Been a customer of theirs for years, in part because of this policy.
You should do that with empty spirit bottles....I have plenty to send back. ;) :lol:
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:31 pm
tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:40 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:39 am
tech37 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:19 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:59 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:51 am Interesting article in the Times this AM:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opin ... thing.html
Nice read. I had not heard of them and do not see them on the list of American Made Clothiers. It is a topic certainly worth further investing time and attention.....the prices are 2x to 3x more than their counterparts (overseas) products. It's really hard to fathom, without having a nose in the ledger sheet of two similar companies where one is entirely american made vs not.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd ... ing-brands
YA, thanks for posting this list. Nice resource, and a lot of nice apparel.

Tech, yeah, the Waxmans sure sound like deeply principled people. I'm going to find something to buy from them.
Good buddy of mine is at LL Bean this week. They are one client of company he works for. He's a supply chain consultant.

Unlike Waxmans, doubt Bean makes everything in America ;)
Hah! Well, your pal would likely have a pretty good idea if LL Bean sources from US-Only vendors. I would bet nearly everything I own that the answer is NO.
Indeed!
Their return policies were like no other. You could return a pair of used duck boots that were breaking down after 15 years And they send you a new pair. Don’t think they do that any longer.
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I gave it to my oldest son a few years back. That rucksack the US Army issued me in 1979 has to have a million miles on it by now. It has been through hell and back and survived more abuse than anyone could imagine. My son still uses it to this day. It is like a Timex watch. It has taken a licking and keeps on ticking. There is not a tear or a rip in it and stayed with me through 37 static line parachute jumps and countless cross country hikes while packed to the max. I never checked to see if it was made by LL Bean.
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ok, so Congress passes stopgap funding today.

I was talking to two House legislative aides at 3:00 pm today and they said they expected the agreement to pass before the day's end, because a lot of Reps were worried about getting out of town before the snow hit...

Seems like Johnson will survive for the moment, though the GOP vote was 107-106 against, the slimmest of majorities in the GOP caucus. The so-called "Freedom Caucus" is calling it "surrender". And it only takes one to call for his ouster.

Not yet passed, and won't be until at least next week by the Senate, is the compromise supplemental on 'national security' that includes border, Israel, Ukraine and Pacific (Taiwan particularly). Marjorie Taylor Greene says that if Johnson brings up ANY bill that gives Ukraine a nickel more, she'll call for his ouster...

Will Dems help him if he brings it to the floor?
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:26 pm ok, so Congress passes stopgap funding today.

I was talking to two House legislative aides at 3:00 pm today and they said they expected the agreement to pass before the day's end, because a lot of Reps were worried about getting out of town before the snow hit...

Seems like Johnson will survive for the moment, though the GOP vote was 107-106 against, the slimmest of majorities in the GOP caucus. The so-called "Freedom Caucus" is calling it "surrender". And it only takes one to call for his ouster.

Not yet passed, and won't be until at least next week by the Senate, is the compromise supplemental on 'national security' that includes border, Israel, Ukraine and Pacific (Taiwan particularly). Marjorie Taylor Greene says that if Johnson brings up ANY bill that gives Ukraine a nickel more, she'll call for his ouster...

Will Dems help him if he brings it to the floor?
... to me Johnson looks relaxed and is not worrying about his crazies. Why any republiCON let alone republican would want this job is beyond me.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:26 pm ok, so Congress passes stopgap funding today.

I was talking to two House legislative aides at 3:00 pm today and they said they expected the agreement to pass before the day's end, because a lot of Reps were worried about getting out of town before the snow hit...

Seems like Johnson will survive for the moment, though the GOP vote was 107-106 against, the slimmest of majorities in the GOP caucus. The so-called "Freedom Caucus" is calling it "surrender". And it only takes one to call for his ouster.

Not yet passed, and won't be until at least next week by the Senate, is the compromise supplemental on 'national security' that includes border, Israel, Ukraine and Pacific (Taiwan particularly). Marjorie Taylor Greene says that if Johnson brings up ANY bill that gives Ukraine a nickel more, she'll call for his ouster...

Will Dems help him if he brings it to the floor?
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Done deal. Goes to Biden's desk.
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:56 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:26 pm ok, so Congress passes stopgap funding today.

I was talking to two House legislative aides at 3:00 pm today and they said they expected the agreement to pass before the day's end, because a lot of Reps were worried about getting out of town before the snow hit...

Seems like Johnson will survive for the moment, though the GOP vote was 107-106 against, the slimmest of majorities in the GOP caucus. The so-called "Freedom Caucus" is calling it "surrender". And it only takes one to call for his ouster.

Not yet passed, and won't be until at least next week by the Senate, is the compromise supplemental on 'national security' that includes border, Israel, Ukraine and Pacific (Taiwan particularly). Marjorie Taylor Greene says that if Johnson brings up ANY bill that gives Ukraine a nickel more, she'll call for his ouster...

Will Dems help him if he brings it to the floor?
... to me Johnson looks relaxed and is not worrying about his crazies. Why any republiCON let alone republican would want this job is beyond me.
Looking relaxed may be his super power...or he's so bought into the "do whatever Trump dictates" concept that he thinks he's immune from backlash if he refuses to bring the deal to the floor...but, again, it only takes one caucus member to oust him and there should be some who will flip out if they don't take this border security offer (16 are in districts Biden carried in 2020)...I think the GOP Senators are going to go off on them hard if they refuse to bring it to the floor. And, the necessity to fund Israel and Ukraine has to have at least one GOP House member who will flip out.

So, his problem isn't just the 'crazies' on the hard right. He did the stopgap funding bill with only the slimmest majority in his caucus in favor (Hastert rule), but that must have required Trump's blessing (for stopgap)... so maybe he'll do it.... But will he do it if Trump says 'no'? If Trump says 'no' and he does it, the crazies will vote to oust him...and he'd need a few Dems to maintain his position...will they?
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Today a report from the Bureau of Economic Analysis showed strong economic growth of 3.3% in the U.S. in the fourth quarter of 2023, setting growth for the year at 3.1% (by comparison, in the first three years of Trump’s term, before the pandemic, growth was 2.5%). A year ago, economists projected that the U.S. would have a recession in 2023, and forecast growth of 0.2%.

Meanwhile, unemployment remains low, wages are high, and inflation is receding. As Gabriel T. Rubin put it in the Wall Street Journal today, “The final three months of the year looked a lot like the soft landing Fed officials are seeking to achieve.”

There is a major political story behind this impressive economic one. Since 1981, lawmakers have insisted that cutting taxes, regulation, and the social safety net would create much faster and more efficient growth than was possible under the system in place between 1933 and 1981.


What Recession? Growth Ended Up Accelerating in 2023
Economy expanded 3.1% from a year earlier due to strong consumer spending and hiring
https://www.wsj.com/economy/gdp-us-econ ... ticle_pos5
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CU88a wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:22 am Today a report from the Bureau of Economic Analysis showed strong economic growth of 3.3% in the U.S. in the fourth quarter of 2023, setting growth for the year at 3.1% (by comparison, in the first three years of Trump’s term, before the pandemic, growth was 2.5%). A year ago, economists projected that the U.S. would have a recession in 2023, and forecast growth of 0.2%.

Meanwhile, unemployment remains low, wages are high, and inflation is receding. As Gabriel T. Rubin put it in the Wall Street Journal today, “The final three months of the year looked a lot like the soft landing Fed officials are seeking to achieve.”

There is a major political story behind this impressive economic one. Since 1981, lawmakers have insisted that cutting taxes, regulation, and the social safety net would create much faster and more efficient growth than was possible under the system in place between 1933 and 1981.


What Recession? Growth Ended Up Accelerating in 2023
Economy expanded 3.1% from a year earlier due to strong consumer spending and hiring
https://www.wsj.com/economy/gdp-us-econ ... ticle_pos5
hmmm, crickets from the right wing posters...
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:52 pm
CU88a wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:22 am Today a report from the Bureau of Economic Analysis showed strong economic growth of 3.3% in the U.S. in the fourth quarter of 2023, setting growth for the year at 3.1% (by comparison, in the first three years of Trump’s term, before the pandemic, growth was 2.5%). A year ago, economists projected that the U.S. would have a recession in 2023, and forecast growth of 0.2%.

Meanwhile, unemployment remains low, wages are high, and inflation is receding. As Gabriel T. Rubin put it in the Wall Street Journal today, “The final three months of the year looked a lot like the soft landing Fed officials are seeking to achieve.”

There is a major political story behind this impressive economic one. Since 1981, lawmakers have insisted that cutting taxes, regulation, and the social safety net would create much faster and more efficient growth than was possible under the system in place between 1933 and 1981.


What Recession? Growth Ended Up Accelerating in 2023
Economy expanded 3.1% from a year earlier due to strong consumer spending and hiring
https://www.wsj.com/economy/gdp-us-econ ... ticle_pos5
hmmm, crickets from the right wing posters...
Keep up the good work!!! Things are looking up so much it's time for well deserved tax increase. :D
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cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:47 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:52 pm
CU88a wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:22 am Today a report from the Bureau of Economic Analysis showed strong economic growth of 3.3% in the U.S. in the fourth quarter of 2023, setting growth for the year at 3.1% (by comparison, in the first three years of Trump’s term, before the pandemic, growth was 2.5%). A year ago, economists projected that the U.S. would have a recession in 2023, and forecast growth of 0.2%.

Meanwhile, unemployment remains low, wages are high, and inflation is receding. As Gabriel T. Rubin put it in the Wall Street Journal today, “The final three months of the year looked a lot like the soft landing Fed officials are seeking to achieve.”

There is a major political story behind this impressive economic one. Since 1981, lawmakers have insisted that cutting taxes, regulation, and the social safety net would create much faster and more efficient growth than was possible under the system in place between 1933 and 1981.


What Recession? Growth Ended Up Accelerating in 2023
Economy expanded 3.1% from a year earlier due to strong consumer spending and hiring
https://www.wsj.com/economy/gdp-us-econ ... ticle_pos5
hmmm, crickets from the right wing posters...
Keep up the good work!!! Things are looking up so much it's time for well deserved tax increase. :D
Of course there is 0.6 growth….how could there not be, inflation has caused the price to go up for most everything, while labor and the cost of manufacturing goods has not matched. I’d certainly want 2.5% growth without the inflationary costs of the past few years….anyone that would is FOS.
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