So what ? It was widely speculated in the media that he might do so. It should not have been a surprise.
It was a Secret Service issue, not a DoD issue. "to cross into NK" is a hyperbolic exaggeration of what actually happened.
So what ? It was widely speculated in the media that he might do so. It should not have been a surprise.
Your double standard is showing again.
Your bogus comparisons are showing again. It was symbolic & not a threat.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:46 amYour double standard is showing again.
Like clockwork.
I'll grant that you're an expert on bogus comparisons.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:48 amYour bogus comparisons are showing again.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:46 amYour double standard is showing again.
Like clockwork.
It was symbolic & not a threat. ...it's better than having NK provide artillery shells & ballistic missiles to Russia & Iran.
Have to be to respond to the volume of them you conjure up.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:50 amI'll grant that you're an expert on bogus comparisons.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:48 amYour bogus comparisons are showing again.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:46 amYour double standard is showing again.
Like clockwork.
It was symbolic & not a threat. ...it's better than having NK provide artillery shells & ballistic missiles to Russia & Iran.
Read the link I posted. They document 73 cases tried in a court of law and the verdict was guilty. The cumulative total beginning in 2003 until 2018 is what the article says it is. While your trying to deflect guilt the facts are what this court decision says they are.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 amSo Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 amMost of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 amThe estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.
Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.
He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
Why is this such a difficult concept for some folks on this forum to understand? They whine and complain that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong. Then when proof is presented to them in the form of a default judgement they ignore that fact completely. Read the post that I linked to. Then we can all have a discussion based on all of the facts. I read the entire article and I encourage everyone on this forum to do the same. Then explain to me again that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 amThe Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 amSo Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 amMost of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 amThe estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.
Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.
He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
+1...old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:52 amHave to be to respond to the volume of them you conjure up.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:50 amI'll grant that you're an expert on bogus comparisons.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:48 amYour bogus comparisons are showing again.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:46 amYour double standard is showing again.
Like clockwork.
It was symbolic & not a threat. ...it's better than having NK provide artillery shells & ballistic missiles to Russia & Iran.
Astonishing it is OS that you need to explain this fact to some folks on this forum. Maybe there is no proof?old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 amThe Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 amSo Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 amMost of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 amThe estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.
Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.
He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
First, I don't recall ANYONE (even Brooklyn) claiming that "Iran did nothing wrong", or "have declared that there is no proof against Iran doing anything wrong".cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:15 amMy point has been a number of individuals on this forum have declared that there is no proof against Iran doing anything wrong. I will give you the same advice you have frequently given to me...did you read the entire article?? this is not me saying this, this is a court of law issuing this default judgement against Iran. I understand all the legal pitfalls involved in putting a freeze on these Iranian funds. I also understand the power the US government has if it chose to do so to put a freeze on these funds until this default judgement is answered by the Iranian government. My main point was to respond to the folks on this forum who told me repeatedly that there was no proof the Iranian government did anything wrong. Well according to the default judgement well yes they did do something wrong they murdered US service personal. If the issue is what has Iran done since January 2021, that is another discussion all together. Im guessing the Israeli army dealing with the same environment of EFPs in Gaza that the US military did in Iraq and Afghanistan. If Iran has a bone to pick with us then bring it out in the open and declare war with the US. They speak frequently that that is what they would like to do.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:04 amI believe he meant the office of President...since January 2021.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 amThe estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pmWhat Kismet said above.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:00 pm So lets back up the bus then. Should Iran be held responsible for the carnage they have caused??? That 6 billion dollars would have helped a lot of US service members that died and lost their arms and legs. Unless you can simply disregard that and cheer for the fact these murdering mother effers in Iran just cashed a huge paycheck?? That is some brilliant freaking logic, simply freaking brilliant..... One positive thing I could say about trump... I betcha he would have never given that 6 billion back to Iran. That's a Joe Biden thang ain't it???
Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
Assuming that all explosions etc in the Middle East, other than accidents, that have injured or killed American military personnel were actually funded by or using the arms materiel of Iran, what are you guys saying those numbers are in the 3 years since January 2021? There've been some recent injuries, right? Since Oct 7?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:33 amAstonishing it is OS that you need to explain this fact to some folks on this forum. Maybe there is no proof?old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 amThe Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 amSo Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 amMost of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 amThe estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.
Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.
He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
Wait a second, were these ships blown up by American made or paid for rockets? Any proof they weren't?
You asked:
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:26 amWhy is this such a difficult concept for some folks on this forum to understand? They whine and complain that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong. Then when proof is presented to them in the form of a default judgement they ignore that fact completely. Read the post that I linked to. Then we can all have a discussion based on all of the facts. I read the entire article and I encourage everyone on this forum to do the same. Then explain to me again that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 amThe Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 amSo Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 amMost of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 amThe estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.
Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.
He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
Oh, only about twice a day. You, yourself, praised these Generals for trying to keep Trump from doing real damage.
Since you and C&S can't seem to answer a simple question, I went to look it up myself.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 amThe Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 am
So Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.
Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
Reading is fundamental. Read the link that I posted. The point of discussion is actually relevant. Iran has worked diligently since 2003 to manufacture the devastating EFP devises that have killed and maimed so many of our service members. If you have not read the link I posted there is no reason for you to chime in. Do 73 default judgements against Iran in a United States court of law hold any weight with you?? You might want to get up to speed about what the conversation is all about.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:37 pmcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:26 amWhy is this such a difficult concept for some folks on this forum to understand? They whine and complain that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong. Then when proof is presented to them in the form of a default judgement they ignore that fact completely. Read the post that I linked to. Then we can all have a discussion based on all of the facts. I read the entire article and I encourage everyone on this forum to do the same. Then explain to me again that there is no proof that Iran did anything wrong.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:37 amThe Iranians arm their proxies, who do the killing on their behalf.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:24 amSo Iranian IEDs have not killed 1,000 US military personnel and injured several thousand more since Biden took office.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 10:01 amMost of the Iranian IED casualties came during our deployments in Iraq since 2003. He cited cases in 2009 & 2011.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:19 am1,000 US military personnel have been killed in action and several thousand more have been severely injured by Iranian IEDs since January 2021?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 5:57 amThe estimates are just under 1000 KIA and several thousand more severely injured. Not that most folks on this forum give a chit about that nor do they have any interest in making Iran provide restitution. God Bless America... That billion should have been held in escrow until Iran to honor the default judgement against Iran. To paraphrase something a Fan says frequently...you break it you buy it.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:30 pm What Kismet said above.
Also, for the second time, how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?
I'd love to read up on that if you have anything to back up those numbers? I'm seeing 13 total deaths by hostile action for 2021-2022. And those were in Afghanistan I believe.
He also said that what Iran's been doing since Jan 2021 was a different issue. I believe he was referring to attacks by Iran's proxies targeting US forces in Iraq & Syria, & now the Red Sea, sonce Biden took office.
Have they killed or injured any US military personnel since then?
LOL when did I say Iran did nothing wrong?
I had one simple question I asked you multiple times that you never answered.
"how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?"
And you came back with the people who were injured and killed a decade and a half before Biden took office.
Reading is fundamental.
Was already up to speed. I asked you a question directly related to the discussion, which you never answered. But went off on a tangent instead.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:36 pmReading is fundamental. Read the link that I posted. The point of discussion is actually relevant. Iran has worked diligently since 2003 to manufacture the devastating EFP devises that have killed and maimed so many of our service members. If you have not read the link I posted there is no reason for you to chime in. Do 73 default judgements against Iran in a United States court of law hold any weight with you?? You might want to get up to speed about what the conversation is all about.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:37 pm LOL when did I say Iran did nothing wrong?
I had one simple question I asked you multiple times that you never answered.
"how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?"
And you came back with the people who were injured and killed a decade and a half before Biden took office.
Reading is fundamental.
Sorry I missed your question. If you want to repeat your question I'll be happy to give you a response. I ask questions all of the time here that none of you cowards will answer. Maybe I'll give you a very simple response. That will still most likely be too complex for you to reply to. Go for it hero... ask me your simple question. I already know that simple minds ask simple questions. Your mind is as simple as they come.....NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 3:53 pmWas already up to speed. I asked you a question directly related to the discussion, which you never answered. But went off on a tangent instead.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 1:36 pmReading is fundamental. Read the link that I posted. The point of discussion is actually relevant. Iran has worked diligently since 2003 to manufacture the devastating EFP devises that have killed and maimed so many of our service members. If you have not read the link I posted there is no reason for you to chime in. Do 73 default judgements against Iran in a United States court of law hold any weight with you?? You might want to get up to speed about what the conversation is all about.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:37 pm LOL when did I say Iran did nothing wrong?
I had one simple question I asked you multiple times that you never answered.
"how many people in the US Military have been injured by Iranian IEDs since Biden took office?"
And you came back with the people who were injured and killed a decade and a half before Biden took office.
Reading is fundamental.
Was a very simple question too.