Cornell 2024

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ICGrad
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Re: Cornell 2024

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:50 pm
ICGrad wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:06 am
joewillie78 wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:19 pm I'm Baaaack.
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Joewillie78
Thank God...and not a moment too soon. The DMac v. laxfan1313 was getting tedious as f/ck.

Sorry about Aaron Rogers.
Sooo, how about Cortland winning the D3 title and Cortaca this year?
Well, I wasn't happy about them winning the Cortaca, but to be honest I felt IC had little chance once their qb qent down 2/3rds of the way into the season. But Cortland's QB was something special to watch. I always pull for upstate when push comes to shove - RIT for lacrosse, etc. So yes, even Cortland in the Stagg Bowl.

Except Syracuse, of course. Screw those guys...
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Re: Cornell 2024

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ICGrad wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:34 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 1:50 pm
ICGrad wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:06 am
joewillie78 wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:19 pm I'm Baaaack.
....
Joewillie78
Thank God...and not a moment too soon. The DMac v. laxfan1313 was getting tedious as f/ck.

Sorry about Aaron Rogers.
Sooo, how about Cortland winning the D3 title and Cortaca this year?
Well, I wasn't happy about them winning the Cortaca, but to be honest I felt IC had little chance once their qb qent down 2/3rds of the way into the season. But Cortland's QB was something special to watch. I always pull for upstate when push comes to shove - RIT for lacrosse, etc. So yes, even Cortland in the Stagg Bowl.

Except Syracuse, of course. Screw those guys...
See for lacrosse I go upstate except against Bart. But for football, maybe having played then all I can’t root for SUNY Gym Teacher U, lost respect for IC when they took Joe Germinerio a few years back, RPI cheats all day and night Iswrnia teaches them to hold and get away with it as well as cut block but hey you can look at athletes junk from the bottom of the pool underneath at ECAV which makes sense for them and Union just plain sucks a**-id fight then again if I could.

But when it comes to ACC/IVY titles or against some Mid Atlantic comp I’ll root for cuse and Cornell.

But it’s nice to break the Stranglehold tanga 4 schools had on the title for most of 25yrs (Mt Union, UMHB, North Central and U Wisc Whitewater but the last one doesn’t have their awesome coach who runs Kansas now.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: Cornell 2024

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USA Lacrosse Magazine: Native Influence Helped Guide Bob Shaw to National Lacrosse Hall of Fame
https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... ll-of-fame
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mfp wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:37 pm USA Lacrosse Magazine: Native Influence Helped Guide Bob Shaw to National Lacrosse Hall of Fame
https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... ll-of-fame
Great player. Great guy. Time for a third Marino brother in the HOF.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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faircornell wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:59 pm
mfp wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:37 pm USA Lacrosse Magazine: Native Influence Helped Guide Bob Shaw to National Lacrosse Hall of Fame
https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... ll-of-fame
Great player. Great guy. Time for a third Marino brother in the HOF.
Tom deserves induction as a player and as a contributor! The Cornell alum most overlooked now that Bob Shaw will be inducted is Craig Jaeger. Craig was a 5 time 1st team All America midfielder. Once in high school, twice at Nassau CC and twice at Cornell. He is inducted into the Cornell and Junior College Halls of Fame. Also the Long Island Metro Lacrosse Hall of Fame. A middie who took faceoffs and stayed on the field playing both ways. Just like Bob Shaw. Long overdue!
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Re: Cornell 2024

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The arrival of the new year means Cornell Men's Lacrosse season is right around the Cornell!

The Big Red is slated seventh in the USA Lacrosse Magazine Top-20 preseason poll, the second straight year in the top-10 for Cornell 👀

https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... son-top-20
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Re: Cornell 2024

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laxfan1313 wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:57 am
faircornell wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 5:59 pm
mfp wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:37 pm USA Lacrosse Magazine: Native Influence Helped Guide Bob Shaw to National Lacrosse Hall of Fame
https://www.usalaxmagazine.com/college/ ... ll-of-fame
Great player. Great guy. Time for a third Marino brother in the HOF.
Tom deserves induction as a player and as a contributor! The Cornell alum most overlooked now that Bob Shaw will be inducted is Craig Jaeger. Craig was a 5 time 1st team All America midfielder. Once in high school, twice at Nassau CC and twice at Cornell. He is inducted into the Cornell and Junior College Halls of Fame. Also the Long Island Metro Lacrosse Hall of Fame. A middie who took faceoffs and stayed on the field playing both ways. Just like Bob Shaw. Long overdue!
I can't argue with that. Jaeger was a great player and a great ambassador for the game in Australia. I wonder if it's a bit "out of sight, out of mind" since he's living in Australia.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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I see that the Cornell - Notre Dame game has been scheduled to take place in Bethpage on LI.
Not a surprising venue (Long Island that is) - under Coach B, Cornell has continued it's tradition of recruiting well from LI...and I'm sure ND is more than willing to reinforce its presence with its St. Anthony's and Chaminade pipeline.
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VeryRustyRed wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:37 pm I see that the Cornell - Notre Dame game has been scheduled to take place in Bethpage on LI.
Not a surprising venue (Long Island that is) - under Coach B, Cornell has continued it's tradition of recruiting well from LI...and I'm sure ND is more than willing to reinforce its presence with its St. Anthony's and Chaminade pipeline.
If they have time, 5 great golf courses right next store.
Played them all a long time ago.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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VeryRustyRed wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:37 pm I see that the Cornell - Notre Dame game has been scheduled to take place in Bethpage on LI.
Not a surprising venue (Long Island that is) - under Coach B, Cornell has continued it's tradition of recruiting well from LI...and I'm sure ND is more than willing to reinforce its presence with its St. Anthony's and Chaminade pipeline.
Game is at LIU University in Old Westbury, not Bethpage HS FYI. Still a nice venue, right down the street from me. Im probably going to attend this battle!

Joe
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Re: Cornell 2024

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JoeM --- the Cornell Athletics website still references the HS Stadium in Bethpage as the game site.
Personally, I much prefer the bigger LIU venue, especially given that Notre Dame will be a big LI draw. I recall attending the Cornell - Notre Dame game at Hewlett HS in the mid-2000's (05, 06, or 07). It was an SRO crowd, lots of fans were turned away.
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VeryRustyRed wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:25 am JoeM --- the Cornell Athletics website still references the HS Stadium in Bethpage as the game site.
Personally, I much prefer the bigger LIU venue, especially given that Notre Dame will be a big LI draw. I recall attending the Cornell - Notre Dame game at Hewlett HS in the mid-2000's (05, 06, or 07). It was an SRO crowd, lots of fans were turned away.
VeryRustyRed,

Click the venue link and it takes you to this page below. It makes sense, this venue can accommodate much more than Bethpage HS.

https://www.liuathletics.com/facilities ... -stadium/1

Joe
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Re: Cornell 2024

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Bob Shaw & Bill Ellis at last night's National Lacrosse Hall of Fame ceremony.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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laxfan1313 wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 7:39 pm Bob Shaw & Bill Ellis at last night's National Lacrosse Hall of Fame ceremony.Bob&Bill.jpg
Wonderful, thanks for sharing!
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Re: Cornell 2024

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Just sharing

College Hockey GameDay at Cornell University

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6SvZSp1O5o

Harvard and Cornell have a rivalry that dates back over 100 + years. ECH's James Murray heads to Lynah to witness one of the best rivalries in college hockey! Follow along with James Murray as he tours Cornell Hockey's facility and takes in the electric atmosphere at Lynah. Thank you for tuning into another episode of College Hockey GameDay! Go follow us on Instagram. @everythingcollegehockey and @cornellmhockey
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Happy "Joe Namath day" to all my friends on fanlax forum. Looking forward to another great year of Cornell Lax.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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joewillie78 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:30 am Happy "Joe Namath day" to all my friends on fanlax forum. Looking forward to another great year of Cornell Lax.
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And happy new year, joewillie! Looking forward to a great Ivy season. Even without Ierlan and Adler, Cornell’s got a great line-up (with a potential Ivy rookie of the year in Firth). Best of luck to the Big Red program and fan base.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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The Orfling wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:45 pm
joewillie78 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:30 am Happy "Joe Namath day" to all my friends on fanlax forum. Looking forward to another great year of Cornell Lax.
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And happy new year, joewillie! Looking forward to a great Ivy season. Even without Ierlan and Adler, Cornell’s got a great line-up (with a potential Ivy rookie of the year in Firth). Best of luck to the Big Red program and fan base.
Thanks Orfling,
One of the things I look forward to on a Saturday afternoon after the games have been played is your amazing analysis of the games. Your insight into the games along with your passion as a fan make your analysis always a must read.
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Re: Cornell 2024

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Jeff Teat,
back to - Best Player in the World? - yes, could be,

https://www.nll.com/game/686394867/new- ... 024-01-19/
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Re: Cornell 2024

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From Lacrosse Reference:


Roster Analysis: Cornell
As we look ahead to the upcoming season, the Cornell Big Red find themselves in a position of both promise and uncertainty. After a solid performance last year, the question on everyone's mind is whether this roster has the capability to not only replicate but also exceed last year's achievements.

Starting with the goalkeeping situation, there's no denying that the departure of Chayse Ierlan leaves a significant void between the pipes. Ierlan's contribution was immense, and his save percentage of 52.2% underscored his importance to the defense. With the return of Wyatt Knust and the addition of freshman Matthew Tully, the Big Red's goal will be defended by less experienced hands. Knust's limited exposure last season doesn't provide much in the way of reassurance, and Tully is an unknown quantity at the collegiate level. Nevertheless, it's worth noting that the team returns 79% of its defensive experience. This seasoned defense could very well provide the necessary support to ease the transition for the new goalie, mitigating some of the potential growing pains associated with this critical position.

On the faceoff front, Cornell stands on more solid ground. With 96% of their faceoff experience returning, including Jack Cascadden, the team has a foundation to build upon. Cascadden's 50.7% win rate, after adjusting the for the strength of the guys he went up against, left him ranked as the 31st best FOGO according to the faceoff Elo model. The proficiency of the faceoff unit, which was in the 63rd percentile nationally, indicates that while there's room for improvement, this is not an area of immediate concern.

The overall roster size for the Big Red is marginally above average with 57 players, five more than last season. This increase in numbers could offer more depth and flexibility in managing the long season, allowing fresh talent to emerge and providing more strategic options.

Offensively, the picture looks relatively bright with 84% of production returning. The loss of Billy Coyle, who was instrumental in initiating plays, does leave a question of who will fill his shoes. Coyle created 24% of the team's assists with a 65% percentile efficiency rating. Not insurmountable, but a heavy lift for whoever takes over his responsibilities within this system. However, the presence of key players like CJ Kirst and Michael Long, with their high individual efficiency ratings (84th and 96th percentiles respectively), implies that the offensive unit has the talent to potentially improve upon last year's performance. Hugh Kelleher's above-average efficiency suggests he's another player who could step up to increase the unit's effectiveness. They finished 2023 ranked in the 90th percentile nationally on an opponent-adjusted efficiency basis, so if they can replace Coyle, this unit has the potential to be a contender for best offense nationally.

So, does this roster suggest Cornell will be better or worse than last year? The defensive experience bodes well for supporting a less experienced goalkeeper, which could be the team's most significant challenge. The consistency at the faceoff X and the depth on offense with returning players who have demonstrated high efficiency and impact give reason for cautious optimism. While it's clear that there are gaps to fill, particularly in goal and in replacing the playmaking prowess of Billy Coyle, the Big Red has a strong foundation from which to build. If the newcomers and less experienced players can rise to the occasion, Cornell certainly has the potential to compete for a championship. However, the answer will ultimately be determined on the field as the season progresses and these variables play out in real time. Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
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