NESCAC

[Laxdad457]

I'll weigh in on this preseason prognostication. First off, full disclosure, I do have a dog in the fight which makes me biased but also gives some intimate knowledge as well.

In addition to losing all of the starting attack and starting FOGO, Tufts loses an AA SSDM and AA long pole. So, for starters, while losing Kohn is significant, Tufts has 2 returning FOGO's who, IMHO, could be all league. Losing JB, Swank and Bruun is obviously huge, those guys carried the O. However, offensively Tufts returns its top 6 O middies, one or two of which could easily slide down to A. We shall see. They also return 2 of their top 4 D mids, both starting LSM's, their starting goalie and all of their poles who saw significant minutes other than one. So, on paper, defensively and possibly at the X, Tufts will be better than last year. Offense is a big time ? at this juncture.

I agree with the top 3 on your list, really could be a tossup in terms of who's 1, 2 or 3. But, until someone knocks them off, I think the top spot has to belong to Tufts!! (did I mention I'm biased? )

Good post to get the conversation started SlippyJ! Would love to hear some takes on the other squads in the conference!

I hope all of the fellow lax junkies on this thread had a wonderful Christmas and best wishes for a very Happy New Year!

I just heard a rumor that Swank is coming back from his 6 month sabbatical marlin fishing in Costa Rica and will be back in Medford by mid-Jan. If so, there's another 70+ goals back in the jumbo column. Combine that with an even more experienced Tagliaferri, Regnery, and Ettinghausen (who I predict will be this year's big surprise), and i'm guessing everyone else in the 'cac will be chasing the Bo's once again (likely the case regardless of whether Swank is back or not).

Are we sure Swank will be as effective in the #nescac after 6 months of cheap Costa Rican escorts, fishing stews, and South American snow?

[DoubleD]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

[DoubleD]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

Also low level D 1 schools are def not on par with mid D 3. Stevens is a top 15 D 3 and would get crushed by low level D 1 schools. Ur top 5 D 3 can hang with low level D 1 but to say mid D 3 no way. There is talented kids on low level D 1 programs. Most of the low level teams don't have the depth to compete with higher D 1 schools but there top players are legit D 1 talent

[laxdad1434]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

Also low level D 1 schools are def not on par with mid D 3. Stevens is a top 15 D 3 and would get crushed by low level D 1 schools. Ur top 5 D 3 can hang with low level D 1 but to say mid D 3 no way. There is talented kids on low level D 1 programs. Most of the low level teams don't have the depth to compete with higher D 1 schools but there top players are legit D 1 talent

Yep...there's a reason for different divisions.

[laxdad1434]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

Also low level D 1 schools are def not on par with mid D 3. Stevens is a top 15 D 3 and would get crushed by low level D 1 schools. Ur top 5 D 3 can hang with low level D 1 but to say mid D 3 no way. There is talented kids on low level D 1 programs. Most of the low level teams don't have the depth to compete with higher D 1 schools but there top players are legit D 1 talent

Yep...there's a reason for different divisions.

[ChopMan23]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

[laxdad1434]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

"LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT" I thought NESCAC was high academics, so why so much trouble with reading comprehension?

[RE6ULATOR]

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

"LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT" I thought NESCAC was high academics, so why so much trouble with reading comprehension?

[Jumbo]

This seems to be a personal issue with some posters. There are numerous examples of top level D3 players transferring to top level D1 teams and making an impact. Not sure why so many are offended by this. Most top 10-12 D3 teams have starting lineups that could have played D1, but chose to go D3 for many different reasons.
We see those top d3 teams scrimmage mid level D1 and are pretty even
We see top level D3 players transferring to D1 and playing
We are now more seeing D3 players playing PLL
The Canadian world team had 10 D3 kids and they hung with USA in the finals.

There are so many talented HS lax players now and not all of them are picking a team that loses 75% -95% of the games, just to say they went D1

No one is arguing that Stevens is going to beat UVA i don’t even think Stevens is a top 20 team. The conversation was top 10 D3 vs lower level D1 There is a big drop off from #10 D3 team to a #20 D3. Just like there is a big drop off from top 10 D1 to lower 1/4 of D1

[NNELax]

Here is the pitch:

NESCAC Coach: "Why go play at Lafayette or Holy Cross when you can come here and have a chance to win a national title?"

-Fin-

*You can insert the NESCAC program HC's over the last 20 years that would fit this narrative.

[laxdad1434]

Here is the pitch:

NESCAC Coach: "Why go play at Lafayette or Holy Cross when you can come here and have a chance to win a national title?"

-Fin-

*You can insert the NESCAC program HC's over the last 20 years that would fit this narrative.

Agreed, that’s the kids NESCAC gets.

[DoubleD]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

Yes last yr as their coach left and 6 of there best players transferred out. Backup seniors played last yr when they lost to Lindinwood. 2022 team would have beat them 20 - 5. U obviously didn't read what I wrote. They had an All American goalie in Will Mark and two time NEC player of the yr Richie Lacalandra. 6 of there best player's transfered. Just go on YouTube and look at the 2022 highlights u will see the difference in talent. NJIT offered Coach Wolf more money so he left and so did all there best players. They have young talent so they will get better soon. Freshman Jake Lewis was Nassue County Attackman of the yr and an All American. Last season the team was depleted. I get last season they were weak I was explaining what happened and that there kids didn't transfer to mid D 3 but higher D 1 programs. They lost a lot of talent. No big deal tho

[laxdad1434]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

Yes last yr as their coach left and 6 of there best players transferred out. Backup seniors played last yr when they lost to Lindinwood. 2022 team would have beat them 20 - 5. U obviously didn't read what I wrote. They had an All American goalie in Will Mark and two time NEC player of the yr Richie Lacalandra. 6 of there best player's transfered. Just go on YouTube and look at the 2022 highlights u will see the difference in talent. NJIT offered Coach Wolf more money so he left and so did all there best players. They have young talent so they will get better soon. Freshman Jake Lewis was Nassue County Attackman of the yr and an All American. Last season the team was depleted. I get last season they were weak I was explaining what happened and that there kids didn't transfer to mid D 3 but higher D 1 programs. They lost a lot of talent. No big deal tho

And, Lindenwood had players. Their leading scorer transferred to Penn State.

[shorelax12]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

Yes last yr as their coach left and 6 of there best players transferred out. Backup seniors played last yr when they lost to Lindinwood. 2022 team would have beat them 20 - 5. U obviously didn't read what I wrote. They had an All American goalie in Will Mark and two time NEC player of the yr Richie Lacalandra. 6 of there best player's transfered. Just go on YouTube and look at the 2022 highlights u will see the difference in talent. NJIT offered Coach Wolf more money so he left and so did all there best players. They have young talent so they will get better soon. Freshman Jake Lewis was Nassue County Attackman of the yr and an All American. Last season the team was depleted. I get last season they were weak I was explaining what happened and that there kids didn't transfer to mid D 3 but higher D 1 programs. They lost a lot of talent. No big deal tho

Just when we thought that it was safe to go back in the water and talk about the NESCAC, this forum spins out of control again with posts about another lower level D1 program....delete NJIT and insert LIU....and yes, I was definitely part of the problem earlier, but I have now seen the light

[DoubleD]

This seems to be a personal issue with some posters. There are numerous examples of top level D3 players transferring to top level D1 teams and making an impact. Not sure why so many are offended by this. Most top 10-12 D3 teams have starting lineups that could have played D1, but chose to go D3 for many different reasons.
We see those top d3 teams scrimmage mid level D1 and are pretty even
We see top level D3 players transferring to D1 and playing
We are now more seeing D3 players playing PLL
The Canadian world team had 10 D3 kids and they hung with USA in the finals.

There are so many talented HS lax players now and not all of them are picking a team that loses 75% -95% of the games, just to say they went D1

No one is arguing that Stevens is going to beat UVA i don’t even think Stevens is a top 20 team. The conversation was top 10 D3 vs lower level D1 There is a big drop off from #10 D3 team to a #20 D3. Just like there is a big drop off from top 10 D1 to lower 1/4 of D1

No I agree there is many D 3 players who can play at top D 1 programs. I said that for sure top D 3 schools could most likely win the MAAC conference which is the weakest in D 1. Unfortunately there is no money in pro lacrosse so it's better for kids to choose a better academic school then a D1 school just to play D 1. Their is so much talent now all over even D 2 has talented kids who can play D 1. Charlie Betrand transferred to UVA and now is a PLL star and came from D 2. I agreed that D 3 has a lot of talent and many kids can play at top D 1 programs for sure.

[DoubleD]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

Yes last yr as their coach left and 6 of there best players transferred out. Backup seniors played last yr when they lost to Lindinwood. 2022 team would have beat them 20 - 5. U obviously didn't read what I wrote. They had an All American goalie in Will Mark and two time NEC player of the yr Richie Lacalandra. 6 of there best player's transfered. Just go on YouTube and look at the 2022 highlights u will see the difference in talent. NJIT offered Coach Wolf more money so he left and so did all there best players. They have young talent so they will get better soon. Freshman Jake Lewis was Nassue County Attackman of the yr and an All American. Last season the team was depleted. I get last season they were weak I was explaining what happened and that there kids didn't transfer to mid D 3 but higher D 1 programs. They lost a lot of talent. No big deal tho

And, Lindenwood had players. Their leading scorer transferred to Penn State.

Yes Scarce or something like that he's a very good player. I was just saying that LIU there 6 best players transfered out when Coach Wolf left. 2 went to Syracuse, 1 Ohio State, 1 Umass, 1 Drexel and 1 Stonybrook. They lost all there top talent and the new coach does not like to play freshman so he played Seniors who were career backups and wouldn't have played much at all if there top players didn't transfer out. That's all I was just explaining what happened to them and why they dropped so low this past season. Coach Wolf was building a solid program but LIU didn't match the pay raise NJIT offered him so he left and so did there best players. It's a shame they didn't offer him more money he brought the team up from D 2 and recruited a lot of underrated players which they transferred to higher level programs. He was doing a great job and deserved more money but can't blame him for going with a higher paying job. I didn't mean to bring up any D 3 to D 1 nonsense I didn't know it was an issue before. Lol I watch D 3 games, D 2 games and D 1. There is talent all over these days.

[laxdad1434]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

Yes last yr as their coach left and 6 of there best players transferred out. Backup seniors played last yr when they lost to Lindinwood. 2022 team would have beat them 20 - 5. U obviously didn't read what I wrote. They had an All American goalie in Will Mark and two time NEC player of the yr Richie Lacalandra. 6 of there best player's transfered. Just go on YouTube and look at the 2022 highlights u will see the difference in talent. NJIT offered Coach Wolf more money so he left and so did all there best players. They have young talent so they will get better soon. Freshman Jake Lewis was Nassue County Attackman of the yr and an All American. Last season the team was depleted. I get last season they were weak I was explaining what happened and that there kids didn't transfer to mid D 3 but higher D 1 programs. They lost a lot of talent. No big deal tho

And, Lindenwood had players. Their leading scorer transferred to Penn State.

Yes Scarce or something like that he's a very good player. I was just saying that LIU there 6 best players transfered out when Coach Wolf left. 2 went to Syracuse, 1 Ohio State, 1 Umass, 1 Drexel and 1 Stonybrook. They lost all there top talent and the new coach does not like to play freshman so he played Seniors who were career backups and wouldn't have played much at all if there top players didn't transfer out. That's all I was just explaining what happened to them and why they dropped so low this past season. Coach Wolf was building a solid program but LIU didn't match the pay raise NJIT offered him so he left and so did there best players. It's a shame they didn't offer him more money he brought the team up from D 2 and recruited a lot of underrated players which they transferred to higher level programs. He was doing a great job and deserved more money but can't blame him for going with a higher paying job. I didn't mean to bring up any D 3 to D 1 nonsense I didn't know it was an issue before. Lol I watch D 3 games, D 2 games and D 1. There is talent all over these days.

No issues, just a lot of ultra-sensitive NESCACians that get butt hurt very easily. Everything you've posted is on point, the overall talent between the divisions is wide, as should be expected.

I hear NJIT players like Wolf, big change from the previous coaches. He has brought in good assistants, former D1 players, with ties to the area that will help with recruiting in the tri-state, Pa. area. I'm looking forward to catching a few games down in Newark.

[laxdad1434]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

Yes last yr as their coach left and 6 of there best players transferred out. Backup seniors played last yr when they lost to Lindinwood. 2022 team would have beat them 20 - 5. U obviously didn't read what I wrote. They had an All American goalie in Will Mark and two time NEC player of the yr Richie Lacalandra. 6 of there best player's transfered. Just go on YouTube and look at the 2022 highlights u will see the difference in talent. NJIT offered Coach Wolf more money so he left and so did all there best players. They have young talent so they will get better soon. Freshman Jake Lewis was Nassue County Attackman of the yr and an All American. Last season the team was depleted. I get last season they were weak I was explaining what happened and that there kids didn't transfer to mid D 3 but higher D 1 programs. They lost a lot of talent. No big deal tho

And, Lindenwood had players. Their leading scorer transferred to Penn State.

Yes Scarce or something like that he's a very good player. I was just saying that LIU there 6 best players transfered out when Coach Wolf left. 2 went to Syracuse, 1 Ohio State, 1 Umass, 1 Drexel and 1 Stonybrook. They lost all there top talent and the new coach does not like to play freshman so he played Seniors who were career backups and wouldn't have played much at all if there top players didn't transfer out. That's all I was just explaining what happened to them and why they dropped so low this past season. Coach Wolf was building a solid program but LIU didn't match the pay raise NJIT offered him so he left and so did there best players. It's a shame they didn't offer him more money he brought the team up from D 2 and recruited a lot of underrated players which they transferred to higher level programs. He was doing a great job and deserved more money but can't blame him for going with a higher paying job. I didn't mean to bring up any D 3 to D 1 nonsense I didn't know it was an issue before. Lol I watch D 3 games, D 2 games and D 1. There is talent all over these days.

No issues, just a lot of ultra-sensitive NESCACians that get butt hurt very easily. Everything you've posted is on point, the overall talent between the divisions is wide, as should be expected.

I hear NJIT players like Wolf, big change from the previous coaches. He has brought in good assistants, former D1 players, with ties to the area that will help with recruiting in the tri-state, Pa. area. I'm looking forward to catching a few games down in Newark.

[shorelax12]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

Yes last yr as their coach left and 6 of there best players transferred out. Backup seniors played last yr when they lost to Lindinwood. 2022 team would have beat them 20 - 5. U obviously didn't read what I wrote. They had an All American goalie in Will Mark and two time NEC player of the yr Richie Lacalandra. 6 of there best player's transfered. Just go on YouTube and look at the 2022 highlights u will see the difference in talent. NJIT offered Coach Wolf more money so he left and so did all there best players. They have young talent so they will get better soon. Freshman Jake Lewis was Nassue County Attackman of the yr and an All American. Last season the team was depleted. I get last season they were weak I was explaining what happened and that there kids didn't transfer to mid D 3 but higher D 1 programs. They lost a lot of talent. No big deal tho

And, Lindenwood had players. Their leading scorer transferred to Penn State.

Yes Scarce or something like that he's a very good player. I was just saying that LIU there 6 best players transfered out when Coach Wolf left. 2 went to Syracuse, 1 Ohio State, 1 Umass, 1 Drexel and 1 Stonybrook. They lost all there top talent and the new coach does not like to play freshman so he played Seniors who were career backups and wouldn't have played much at all if there top players didn't transfer out. That's all I was just explaining what happened to them and why they dropped so low this past season. Coach Wolf was building a solid program but LIU didn't match the pay raise NJIT offered him so he left and so did there best players. It's a shame they didn't offer him more money he brought the team up from D 2 and recruited a lot of underrated players which they transferred to higher level programs. He was doing a great job and deserved more money but can't blame him for going with a higher paying job. I didn't mean to bring up any D 3 to D 1 nonsense I didn't know it was an issue before. Lol I watch D 3 games, D 2 games and D 1. There is talent all over these days.

No issues, just a lot of ultra-sensitive NESCACians that get butt hurt very easily. Everything you've posted is on point, the overall talent between the divisions is wide, as should be expected.

I hear NJIT players like Wolf, big change from the previous coaches. He has brought in good assistants, former D1 players, with ties to the area that will help with recruiting in the tri-state, Pa. area. I'm looking forward to catching a few games down in Newark.

I suspect that there is an America East or NEC forum that would welcome you both with open arms, us butt-hurt NESCACians would just like to live in peace with our sore rears and ignorance about these high level D1 programs

[pcowlax]

Where are the players from Binghamton, LIU, NJIT, Bellarmine, etc.?

Those kids typically transfer to mid D3s, which are on par with the lowest D1s ...

That's untrue. LIU was mid D1 level program until this past yr there coach left for NJIT and there top 6 players transferred out but not to mid D 3 but to higher D 1. Coach Wolf had an eye for overlooked talent and moved the program from D 2 to D 1. Yr 1 with D 2 kids still around they struggled but yr 2 and on they competed very well in D1. He was building a solid program and it's a shame he left and didn't get to keep building. They took a big step back last season losing so much too talent and new coach playing seniors who barerly saw the field and wouldn't have if the team stayed together. LIU's best players transferred to higher D 1 schools. Will Mark- Syracuse, Jake Murphy - Syracuse and was in top 4 rotation at SSDM, Richie Lacalandra- Ohio State - started first 4 games at attack then left program, Chris Cambell - Umass - top pole at Umass and made PLL Archers game roster week 1, Justin Joseph- Drexel starting Fogo, Blake Behlen - Stonybrook- started at Attack. This past yr the new coach didn't like playing freshman so played seniors who were career backups and they struggled. If that team didn't break up they would have won the MAAC easy. They were in a tougher conference NEC with St Joes, Bryant and Hobart. LIU lost 11 - 10 to St Joes in conference tournament which StJoes won and then lost 18 - 16 in a great game vs Yale in NCAA tournament. Bryant won the yr before and took NCAA champs Virginia to final minute. LIU has some talented young kids so they will move back up to a mid D 1 program soon. Now for D 3 the top teams like Salsiberry or Tufts they can probably win the MAAC which is the weakest conference in D 1. Marist won and got blown off the field by Deleware In tournament. Next conferences like American East u for Albany, Vermont and Bryant, CAA u got Townson Deleware, Stonybrook then A 10 is St Joes, Richmond and High Point. Salsiberry can hang some with those teams but depth would hurt them. 2dn line mids on D 3 are not D 1 players at those schools. Their is many players in D 3 that can play on top 20 D 1 schools for sure. Cross Ferreira wousl have been a star at any top program and Boyden should be a stud at Virginia. Kids choose lower D 1 for scholarship money and a chance to win there conference tournament and just get an opportunity to play on an NCAA tournament game which they watched and dreamed of as a kid. Now kids who don't play much at Lower D 1 just go there to say they played D 1 because they should go to a mid D 3 and play. Sorry so long lol

LIU lost to Lindenwood last year….

Yes last yr as their coach left and 6 of there best players transferred out. Backup seniors played last yr when they lost to Lindinwood. 2022 team would have beat them 20 - 5. U obviously didn't read what I wrote. They had an All American goalie in Will Mark and two time NEC player of the yr Richie Lacalandra. 6 of there best player's transfered. Just go on YouTube and look at the 2022 highlights u will see the difference in talent. NJIT offered Coach Wolf more money so he left and so did all there best players. They have young talent so they will get better soon. Freshman Jake Lewis was Nassue County Attackman of the yr and an All American. Last season the team was depleted. I get last season they were weak I was explaining what happened and that there kids didn't transfer to mid D 3 but higher D 1 programs. They lost a lot of talent. No big deal tho

And, Lindenwood had players. Their leading scorer transferred to Penn State.

Yes Scarce or something like that he's a very good player. I was just saying that LIU there 6 best players transfered out when Coach Wolf left. 2 went to Syracuse, 1 Ohio State, 1 Umass, 1 Drexel and 1 Stonybrook. They lost all there top talent and the new coach does not like to play freshman so he played Seniors who were career backups and wouldn't have played much at all if there top players didn't transfer out. That's all I was just explaining what happened to them and why they dropped so low this past season. Coach Wolf was building a solid program but LIU didn't match the pay raise NJIT offered him so he left and so did there best players. It's a shame they didn't offer him more money he brought the team up from D 2 and recruited a lot of underrated players which they transferred to higher level programs. He was doing a great job and deserved more money but can't blame him for going with a higher paying job. I didn't mean to bring up any D 3 to D 1 nonsense I didn't know it was an issue before. Lol I watch D 3 games, D 2 games and D 1. There is talent all over these days.

No issues, just a lot of ultra-sensitive NESCACians that get butt hurt very easily. Everything you've posted is on point, the overall talent between the divisions is wide, as should be expected.

I hear NJIT players like Wolf, big change from the previous coaches. He has brought in good assistants, former D1 players, with ties to the area that will help with recruiting in the tri-state, Pa. area. I'm looking forward to catching a few games down in Newark.

Well, with their admissions rate, it shouldn't be a problem for him to get any kids into NJIT that he wants.