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Well until Hamas threw their Palestinian supporters under the bus on October 7 the vast majority of Palestinians in Gaza were on their side. You reep what you sow. Funny how those extensive tunnels under Gaza helped Hamas survive and plan the attack on 10/7.
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... I didn't say it made senseMatnum PI wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:43 pmJoe lived through a big piece of the creation of the Modern State of Israel, was in politics for a large bunch, met some of the towering figures. How does that not profoundly shape your perspective? Versus a college student with, to be kind, substantially less personal experience.
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Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
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It looks like internal terrorism. If it is not, it's a clever ruse by whoever did it.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:22 pm Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
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IMO the Iranians will never admit to that. That would require the Iranian leadership to admit there is trouble in paradise. What Iran does next could have repercussions all over the world.old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:07 pmIt looks like internal terrorism. If it is not, it's a clever ruse by whoever did it.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:22 pm Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
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Provocative in the extreme. So, who, or, which country or group would stand to benefit from a Iranian "response?" Is Israel trying to provoke Iran into a casus belli with the US? An internal Iranian power struggle manifesting in a false flag attack? A Russian diversionary action intended to further distract the US and lessen its resolve re Ukraine?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:22 pm Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
Has WWIII already begun? When did WWII begin? Depends on who you ask and which combatants you regard as central.
Whatever the intent, or the actor, it is certainly an unwelcome development in the shiteshow.
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I could not agree with you more. The disturbing issue at hand is how Iran will react or who will they blame.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:14 pmProvocative in the extreme. So, who, or, which country or group would stand to benefit from a Iranian "response?" Is Israel trying to provoke Iran into a casus belli with the US? An internal Iranian power struggle manifesting in a false flag attack? A Russian diversionary action intended to further distract the US and lessen its resolve re Ukraine?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:22 pm Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
Has WWIII already begun? When did WWII begin? Depends on who you ask and which combatants you regard as central.
Whatever the intent, or the actor, it is certainly an unwelcome development in the shiteshow.
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We and Israel have blown up tons of Iranian stuff and people the past 30+ years without them retaliating en kind.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:25 pmI could not agree with you more. The disturbing issue at hand is how Iran will react or who will they blame.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:14 pmProvocative in the extreme. So, who, or, which country or group would stand to benefit from a Iranian "response?" Is Israel trying to provoke Iran into a casus belli with the US? An internal Iranian power struggle manifesting in a false flag attack? A Russian diversionary action intended to further distract the US and lessen its resolve re Ukraine?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:22 pm Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
Has WWIII already begun? When did WWII begin? Depends on who you ask and which combatants you regard as central.
Whatever the intent, or the actor, it is certainly an unwelcome development in the shiteshow.
What are they gonna do?
Blow up the WTC?
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I'm guessing they are still spending the many billions of dollars that the Obama and Biden administrations so graciously handed over to them. That is a nice chunk of change they can use to kill more Jews and Americans. That would be courtesy of the democrats.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:55 pmWe and Israel have blown up tons of Iranian stuff and people the past 30+ years without them retaliating en kind.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:25 pmI could not agree with you more. The disturbing issue at hand is how Iran will react or who will they blame.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:14 pmProvocative in the extreme. So, who, or, which country or group would stand to benefit from a Iranian "response?" Is Israel trying to provoke Iran into a casus belli with the US? An internal Iranian power struggle manifesting in a false flag attack? A Russian diversionary action intended to further distract the US and lessen its resolve re Ukraine?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:22 pm Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
Has WWIII already begun? When did WWII begin? Depends on who you ask and which combatants you regard as central.
Whatever the intent, or the actor, it is certainly an unwelcome development in the shiteshow.
What are they gonna do?
Blow up the WTC?
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With nearly never ending un-educated dumbassery coming out of your mouth, that is one of the more colossally stupid things you have ever posted. Congrats, that puts you in Trump's league.
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I'm educated enough there my friend to know that the US government is paying 100s of billions to pay for the trillions we have borrowed. When your done slamming me answer the question sport. It's not a hard question.
How much of that maintenance of our debt are we paying to the ChiComs?? Enough so they can build new flat tops to expand their naval influence around the world.
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So typical. You made a dumass statement about democrats and Israel and Iran. We're not talking about US borrowing. There is no question anywhere in this equation to answer. Roxy may need to have you checked out for dementia. Have a nice day, chum.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:34 amI'm educated enough there my friend to know that the US government is paying 100s of billions to pay for the trillions we have borrowed. When your done slamming me answer the question sport. It's not a hard question.
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I was going to suggest you go back on your anti psychotic meds for your own benefit of course .FTR its dumbass not dumass. Is that French???dislaxxic wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:55 amSo typical. You made a dumass statement about democrats and Israel and Iran. We're not talking about US borrowing. There is no question anywhere in this equation to answer. Roxy may need to have you checked out for dementia. Have a nice day, chum.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:34 amI'm educated enough there my friend to know that the US government is paying 100s of billions to pay for the trillions we have borrowed. When your done slamming me answer the question sport. It's not a hard question.
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If you proof read your posts you won't come across as being such a dumass.
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ISIS claimed responsibility for the Iran bombing todaycradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:22 pm Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/04/middleea ... index.html
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Such a peaceful group in favor of jihad.Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:39 amISIS claimed responsibility for the Iran bombing todaycradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:22 pm Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/04/middleea ... index.html
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I'm interested to know more about this. How much $upport did each (Obama, Biden) administration give to Iran? Did the Trump administration impose sanctions on Iran? If so, are they still in place or has the Biden administration made changes? Thanks in advance for any light you might shed on the topic.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:02 am I'm guessing they are still spending the many billions of dollars that the Obama and Biden administrations so graciously handed over to them. That is a nice chunk of change they can use to kill more Jews and Americans. That would be courtesy of the democrats.
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If true this would not come as much of a surprise since Soleimani was ISIS's biggest enemy. Small wonder why the USA was so hellbent on killing him since it promotes destabilization in the region thereby perpetuating war.Kismet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:39 amISIS claimed responsibility for the Iran bombing todaycradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:22 pm Any opinions about the bomb attack in Iran? This has potential to blow up big-time. I'm guessing Israel will be the #1 suspect. I'm also guessing the US will be a close 2nd.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/04/middleea ... index.html
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Royal Jordanian AirForce in action: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/17430 ... a82I2GssRg
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The Obama and Biden administrations have given no US money to Iran.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:20 pmI'm interested to know more about this. How much $upport did each (Obama, Biden) administration give to Iran? Did the Trump administration impose sanctions on Iran? If so, are they still in place or has the Biden administration made changes? Thanks in advance for any light you might shed on the topic.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:02 am I'm guessing they are still spending the many billions of dollars that the Obama and Biden administrations so graciously handed over to them. That is a nice chunk of change they can use to kill more Jews and Americans. That would be courtesy of the democrats.
The Obama administration imposed a number of sanctions on Iran in 2012. This froze ~$100B of Iranian oil sales in a number of countries it sold oil to. If Iran was in compliance with the 2015 JCPOA deal, this would have been unfrozen. Iran would have received about ~$30B of this. Most of the remainder was illiquid - collateral and in use for other things.
The Biden administration recently released $6B in frozen Iranian funds in exchange for a few Americans Iran had detained.
Iran made this $6B in oil money because Donald Trump granted eight countries a waiver that allowed them to purchase Iranian oil after he withdrew from the JCPOA and reimposed a number of the pre-JCPOA sanctions.
Biden is in talks to revive part of the JCPOA, which could lead to a lift in some sanctions if Iran complies with abandoning its nuclear weapons development.