ILWomen Top 50 Players 2024

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WLaxdad wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:13 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:52 am
Madlax59 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:56 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:59 am
user1020 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:36 am
MolonLaxe wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:16 am I agree Scane should be #1.
Here’s a potential topic for some discussion.

Who is the best player at each position?

Here are my takes:

Attack - Izzy Scane
Midfield - Belle Smith
Defense - Sam Thacker
Goalie - Lauren Spence
Scane's an obvious one, but what criteria do you have in mind for assessing a player's worth/value/whatever? How much does the eye test come into play with stats, strength of schedule, how the player does in big games/crunch time, etc?
In my experience with ratings they usually go with glitzy and obvious qualities and stats . They do not take into consideration intangible factors . If coaches are not volunteering that info the people that evaluate are not going to go past obvious stats.
True.

I was asking user1020 as he was the one who suggested the topic.

Who would you choose for your best player at each position? I'm still pondering mine.

I think we can be a little more particular since it's just us here on the WD1 board. Always interesting to look at different players and how they are perceived outside the mainstream publications like IL Women and USA Lacrosse Magazine.

My vote to evaluate middies is the eye test. I'm basing this on watching Taylor Cummings at the world cup, she was just so dominate. I have no idea what the stats were but in the championship game she was everywhere dominating draws, scoring, transition. I think for middies this is the best way, sort of you'll know it when you see it.
Yes – she sure had plenty of fire left as well. I was surprised she retired from team USA afterward. I suppose that was to make room for the next generation.

Now that you bring that up however, perhaps midfielders should be divided into three categories: defensive midfielder, offensive midfielder and two-way midfielder. I don't know if that's reasonable or not. Just a thought.
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:25 am
WLaxdad wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:13 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:52 am
Madlax59 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:56 am
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:59 am
user1020 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:36 am
MolonLaxe wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:16 am I agree Scane should be #1.
Here’s a potential topic for some discussion.

Who is the best player at each position?

Here are my takes:

Attack - Izzy Scane
Midfield - Belle Smith
Defense - Sam Thacker
Goalie - Lauren Spence
Scane's an obvious one, but what criteria do you have in mind for assessing a player's worth/value/whatever? How much does the eye test come into play with stats, strength of schedule, how the player does in big games/crunch time, etc?
In my experience with ratings they usually go with glitzy and obvious qualities and stats . They do not take into consideration intangible factors . If coaches are not volunteering that info the people that evaluate are not going to go past obvious stats.
True.

I was asking user1020 as he was the one who suggested the topic.

Who would you choose for your best player at each position? I'm still pondering mine.

I think we can be a little more particular since it's just us here on the WD1 board. Always interesting to look at different players and how they are perceived outside the mainstream publications like IL Women and USA Lacrosse Magazine.

My vote to evaluate middies is the eye test. I'm basing this on watching Taylor Cummings at the world cup, she was just so dominate. I have no idea what the stats were but in the championship game she was everywhere dominating draws, scoring, transition. I think for middies this is the best way, sort of you'll know it when you see it.
Yes – she sure had plenty of fire left as well. I was surprised she retired from team USA afterward. I suppose that was to make room for the next generation.

Now that you bring that up however, perhaps midfielders should be divided into three categories: defensive midfielder, offensive midfielder and two-way midfielder. I don't know if that's reasonable or not. Just a thought.
IMO midfielders are players who play both ends of the field. Offensive midfielders are just attackers who come in/out of the box and defensive midfielders are defenders. They may be on a roster as M but in my opinion they should not be considered Middies.
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Bart wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:25 pm IMO midfielders are players who play both ends of the field. Offensive midfielders are just attackers who come in/out of the box and defensive midfielders are defenders. They may be on a roster as M but in my opinion they should not be considered Middies.
Sounds good to me, Bart. I'll consider that description the standard. Who would you tag for best midfielder in D1?
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Updated with No. 30-21:
#50: Becky Browndorf, Boston College
#49: Emily Sterling, Maryland
#48: Anna Brandt, Penn
#47 Emelia Bohl, Denver
#46: Reilly Casey, North Carolina
#45: Kailyn Hart, Stony Brook
#44: Eloise Clevenger, Maryland
#43: Landyn White, UConn
#42: Marissa White, North Carolina
#41: Claudia Shevitz, USC
#40: Julia Gilbert, Denver
#39: Cassidy Spilis, Rutgers
#38: Samantha Smith, Northwestern
#37: izzy Rohr, Penn
#36: Arden Tierney, Notre Dame
#35: Kristin O'Neill, Penn State
#34: Jenna Collignon, Yale
#33: Emma Tyrrell, Syracuse
#32: Rachel Clark, Boston College
#31: Sydni Black, Loyola
#30: Shea Dolce, Boston College
#29: Niki Miles, Penn
#28: Madison Ahern, Notre Dame
#27: Emily Heller, Florida
#26: Mckenna Davis, Boston College
#25: Brigid Duffy, Army
#24: Maddie Burns, Michigan
#23: Cassidy Weeks, Boston College
#22: Trinity McPherson, Denver
#21: Emma LoPinto, Boston College
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After watching USA U-20 tryout games, Duffy is way too low and Lopinto way too high.
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OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:36 pm
Bart wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:25 pm IMO midfielders are players who play both ends of the field. Offensive midfielders are just attackers who come in/out of the box and defensive midfielders are defenders. They may be on a roster as M but in my opinion they should not be considered Middies.
Sounds good to me, Bart. I'll consider that description the standard. Who would you tag for best midfielder in D1?
Don’t know. Ask me again after 3-4 weeks of the season.
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user1020 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:36 am
MolonLaxe wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:16 am I agree Scane should be #1.
Here’s a potential topic for some discussion.

Who is the best player at each position?

Here are my takes:

Attack - Izzy Scane
Midfield - Belle Smith
Defense - Sam Thacker
Goalie - Lauren Spence
Attack1- scane
Midfield—. Smith
Defense—Nalls—i value her ability to play elite level 1 v 1 more than I do hackers mastery of her position in the Denver zone. I think Nalls is a first team all American anywhere. I don’t know if Thacker is a first team all American at Carolina…..
Goalie-white (uconn).
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Bart wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:27 pm Don’t know. Ask me again after 3-4 weeks of the season.
Congratulations, you're the winner of the DMac Best Comment On The Thread Award.
Not redeemable for anything of any value but sumthin' nonetheless.
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Bart wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:27 pm
OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:36 pm
Bart wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:25 pm IMO midfielders are players who play both ends of the field. Offensive midfielders are just attackers who come in/out of the box and defensive midfielders are defenders. They may be on a roster as M but in my opinion they should not be considered Middies.
Sounds good to me, Bart. I'll consider that description the standard. Who would you tag for best midfielder in D1?
Don’t know. Ask me again after 3-4 weeks of the season.
How about from last season--who are some you thought to be the most impressive/talented midfielders from 2023?
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Interested in yours from last year too, D.
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user1020 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:36 am
MolonLaxe wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:16 am I agree Scane should be #1.
Here’s a potential topic for some discussion.

Who is the best player at each position?

Here are my takes:

Attack - Izzy Scane
Midfield - Belle Smith
Defense - Sam Thacker
Goalie - Lauren Spence
Strong list out of the gate.
I'll take S Scales on D. I think she could be AA at multiple positions. Bohi for goalie after that stingy performance last season.
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Womenslaxxfan wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:02 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:36 am
MolonLaxe wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:16 am I agree Scane should be #1.
Here’s a potential topic for some discussion.

Who is the best player at each position?

Here are my takes:

Attack - Izzy Scane
Midfield - Belle Smith
Defense - Sam Thacker
Goalie - Lauren Spence
Attack1- scane
Midfield—. Smith
Defense—Nalls—i value her ability to play elite level 1 v 1 more than I do hackers mastery of her position in the Denver zone. I think Nalls is a first team all American anywhere. I don’t know if Thacker is a first team all American at Carolina…..
Goalie-white (uconn).
Personally favor BWW over Nails . Watched Nails get smoked many times. I think BWW def better .
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GratefulRed wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:17 pm
user1020 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:36 am
MolonLaxe wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:16 am I agree Scane should be #1.
Here’s a potential topic for some discussion.

Who is the best player at each position?

Here are my takes:

Attack - Izzy Scane
Midfield - Belle Smith
Defense - Sam Thacker
Goalie - Lauren Spence
Strong list out of the gate.
I'll take S Scales on D. I think she could be AA at multiple positions. Bohi for goalie after that stingy performance last season.
I like Scales a lot. Locked down Jamie Ortega as a freshman in the national semifinals. Great player.
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Updated with No. 20-11.
#50: Becky Browndorf, Boston College
#49: Emily Sterling, Maryland
#48: Anna Brandt, Penn
#47 Emelia Bohl, Denver
#46: Reilly Casey, North Carolina
#45: Kailyn Hart, Stony Brook
#44: Eloise Clevenger, Maryland
#43: Landyn White, UConn
#42: Marissa White, North Carolina
#41: Claudia Shevitz, USC
#40: Julia Gilbert, Denver
#39: Cassidy Spilis, Rutgers
#38: Samantha Smith, Northwestern
#37: izzy Rohr, Penn
#36: Arden Tierney, Notre Dame
#35: Kristin O'Neill, Penn State
#34: Jenna Collignon, Yale
#33: Emma Tyrrell, Syracuse
#32: Rachel Clark, Boston College
#31: Sydni Black, Loyola
#30: Shea Dolce, Boston College
#29: Niki Miles, Penn
#28: Madison Ahern, Notre Dame
#27: Emily Heller, Florida
#26: Mckenna Davis, Boston College
#25: Brigid Duffy, Army
#24: Maddie Burns, Michigan
#23: Cassidy Weeks, Boston College
#22: Trinity McPherson, Denver
#21: Emma LoPinto, Boston College
#20: Georgia Latch, Loyola
#19: Jill Smith, Michigan
#18: Lauren Spence, Loyola
#17: Emma Ward, Syracuse
#16: Ellie Masera, Stony Brook
#15: Madison Taylor, Northwestern
#14: Shaylan Ahearn, Maryland
#13: Kasey Choma, Notre Dame
#12: Sydney Scales, Boston College
#11: Emily Nalls, North Carolina
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jff97 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:24 pm Updated with No. 20-11.
#50: Becky Browndorf, Boston College
#49: Emily Sterling, Maryland
#48: Anna Brandt, Penn
#47 Emelia Bohl, Denver
#46: Reilly Casey, North Carolina
#45: Kailyn Hart, Stony Brook
#44: Eloise Clevenger, Maryland
#43: Landyn White, UConn
#42: Marissa White, North Carolina
#41: Claudia Shevitz, USC
#40: Julia Gilbert, Denver
#39: Cassidy Spilis, Rutgers
#38: Samantha Smith, Northwestern
#37: izzy Rohr, Penn
#36: Arden Tierney, Notre Dame
#35: Kristin O'Neill, Penn State
#34: Jenna Collignon, Yale
#33: Emma Tyrrell, Syracuse
#32: Rachel Clark, Boston College
#31: Sydni Black, Loyola
#30: Shea Dolce, Boston College
#29: Niki Miles, Penn
#28: Madison Ahern, Notre Dame
#27: Emily Heller, Florida
#26: Mckenna Davis, Boston College
#25: Brigid Duffy, Army
#24: Maddie Burns, Michigan
#23: Cassidy Weeks, Boston College
#22: Trinity McPherson, Denver
#21: Emma LoPinto, Boston College
#20: Georgia Latch, Loyola
#19: Jill Smith, Michigan
#18: Lauren Spence, Loyola
#17: Emma Ward, Syracuse
#16: Ellie Masera, Stony Brook
#15: Madison Taylor, Northwestern
#14: Shaylan Ahearn, Maryland
#13: Kasey Choma, Notre Dame
#12: Sydney Scales, Boston College
#11: Emily Nalls, North Carolina
Top 10 gonna be whack lol . I can tell from who is missing from above that she will be listed as a top 10 player …. Last years stats and performance don’t —>>point to her being top 10 player
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Could be wrong but these are the higher ranked people on last years list with last year's rankingnot mentioned yet.

26 isabella Peterson
25 Hannah Leubecker
20 Meghan Ball
17 Danielle Pavinelli
18 Brooklyn Walker-Welch
16 Erin Coykendall
15 Ashley Humphrey
12 Sam Thacker
10 Caitlyn Wurzburger
7 Emily Sterling
4 Belle SMith
2 Izzy Scane

And no Molly Laliberte
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laxfan9999 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:41 pm Could be wrong but these are the higher ranked people on last years list with last year's rankingnot mentioned yet.

26 isabella Peterson
25 Hannah Leubecker
20 Meghan Ball
17 Danielle Pavinelli
18 Brooklyn Walker-Welch
16 Erin Coykendall
15 Ashley Humphrey
12 Sam Thacker
10 Caitlyn Wurzburger
7 Emily Sterling
4 Belle SMith
2 Izzy Scane

And no Molly Laliberte
Sterling was 49.
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laxfan9999 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:29 pm After watching USA U-20 tryout games, Duffy is way too low and Lopinto way too high.
One set of tryouts and you can tell who is better and who is not...you are good!!!
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laxfan9999 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:41 pm Could be wrong but these are the higher ranked people on last years list with last year's rankingnot mentioned yet.

26 isabella Peterson
25 Hannah Leubecker
20 Meghan Ball
17 Danielle Pavinelli
18 Brooklyn Walker-Welch
16 Erin Coykendall
15 Ashley Humphrey
12 Sam Thacker
10 Caitlyn Wurzburger
7 Emily Sterling
4 Belle SMith
2 Izzy Scane

And no Molly Laliberte
1-10 in no order other than Scane is 1 (but I have 11 listed so is someone not returning? I can't imagine anyone on this list being out of Top 50 altogether).

Ball
Coykendall
Peterson
Reznick
Scane
Smith
Sweitzer
Thacker
Walker-Welch
White
Wolak

These players will be left out of Top 50
Humphrey
Luebecker
Pavinelli
Wurzburger
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intheknow247 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:02 pm
laxfan9999 wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:29 pm After watching USA U-20 tryout games, Duffy is way too low and Lopinto way too high.
One set of tryouts and you can tell who is better and who is not...you are good!!!
I’ve always gotten confused when people say high and low. Do you mean that LoPinto should have been closer to 1 or closer to 50?
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