Actually, she's been a good friend since HS. Very funny gal, and would do anything for a friend in need.
But she did turn rather sharply MAGA extremist, was in the front row of CPAC for Trump's speech after Jan 6.
Actually, she's been a good friend since HS. Very funny gal, and would do anything for a friend in need.
I agree, but every once in a blue moon I take a look at her FB posts and am amply horrified by the degree of vitriol and flat out conspiracy ratholes that she posts approval of. So, I stay away. I don't need that vitriol aimed my way, too painful.DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:34 pm Remember you two went way back. LL was always a pretty hard core gal (on LP), not so surprised to hear she's a Trumpster.
Too bad she's not still on here, she could share her personal experience(s) with the Trumpster with us. That would make for some pleasant, light hearted discussion fer sure.
You know I was chatting w a friend who runs some money in LA but is this upper class England HS educated Light skinned South African guy. We were discussing various behavior and ethics in our world and it spilled into broader society, he was making a point about ownership and control by using the story of the transfer of land in Rhodesia. We started talking about NIMBY and protecting what one has.OCanada wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:46 amA very big lie. Fox News in court testified they structured their “news” to satisfy the demands of their base. Another thread in the support Trump requires for electionzFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:51 amI'm more focused on the people who gave trump power and enbabled him. A much much much larger and vast cohort than many lib hating folks here ever admit to be the case despite the reality of it. There's far too much of it here by protestors that they haven't enable this jerk - its a lie.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:19 amI think Jim Breuer must be a user on this forum and knows who MDLaxfan is...he was speaking directly to him.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:18 am I’ve read some/heard some comments over the last few years about former President Trump. They read/sounded exactly like what Breuer parodies here. The waking up in the middle of the night cursing Trump segment? Perfect! I've muted folks on Twitter because they would go on and on, day and night, in like manner--OBSESSED--about Trump and how evil he is, listing all the evil things he's done with a devoted proselytizing fervor.
(And how predictable that the Self-Appointed One would look down his nose at this oh-so-accurate comedy routine and wag his finger at those who find it amusing.)
"Do better." ?? Seriously--who does this guy think he is?
Thank goodness for freedom of speech in the good ol' U S of A.
Thanks again for introducing this, YA. It's a keeper.
Then there is the fear his working class supporters have of losing jobs to more qualified new comers.
After the sixteen election research identified bias/bigotry towards all kinds of groups eg blacks, browns, jews, muslims, gays etc was a core motivating factor. One of the consistent authoritarian constants for the last century is the need to develop an “other” that can be demonized in order to create the animus to motivate behavior. Pure manipulation but history proves it works.
Yeah that’s a fairly broad sweeping commentary that misses the mark and is fairly reductive in complaint about reductive behavior.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:34 amNot sure anyone here has made those declaratory statements other than Brooks and Cradle. You are on a lacrosse board.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:50 am Individuals with their own minds do exist in the world of politics. There are Democrat policies I value and appreciate, and there are Republican policies I value and appreciate. If a president screws up, they should be called on it--whether they're with the elephants or the donkeys. I can't go down the line with either party. That said--there were things Trump said and did while he was in office that I was grateful for. Conversely there were things he said and did that really aggravated and disappointed me.
One thing I observe on the politics boards from time to time are these sweeping, all-encompassing broad strokes that make those wielding the sloppy paint brush look childish. All Republicans are this. All Democrats are that. All Trump supporters are this. All Biden supporters are that.
Please.
I tend to prefer “even a blind squirrel finds an occasional nut” but this is about a portfolio of work not one event or action. Why one thing is relevant in a portrait is a specious and diversionary tactic to avoid addressing the entirety of the situation or person. Same idiocy with claiming by some (cradle) anyone who ever served is above reproach which is why I need to repeatedly remind him of no other than Timothy McVeigh. But some still don’t get it that loving organisms move with time.a fan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:57 am+1. Trump did things I was happy about, no question. And some of the things I was most angry about, Biden came in, and didn't reverse the bad policy. The fat corporate tax cuts come to immediate mind. So that's now a Biden policy.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:50 am Individuals with their own minds do exist in the world of politics. There are Democrat policies I value and appreciate, and there are Republican policies I value and appreciate. If a president screws up, they should be called on it--whether they're with the elephants or the donkeys. I can't go down the line with either party. That said--there were things Trump said and did while he was in office that I was grateful for. Conversely there were things he said and did that really aggravated and disappointed me
To quote another poster, however, Trump is unfit for office. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
You know I have several degenerate rebuttals at my fingertips because you opened the door with using the term “escape hatch” as if it’s only one way, but I will spare everyone it this one time. And only one time.
So when the 60+ crowd dominates these and you bug out that I bring up generational issues maybe remember I’m the super minority in that here? It’s exactly the same concept as your argument above. What if the boards had mostly 28-50yrs olds? If it’s only about sheer numbers and bodies over right and wrong then your entire complaint with me sort of disappears like POOFDMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:20 pmNit pick if you'd like but ONW isn't so wrong here. Ds, Rs, libs, conservatives, they're all phukked up, it just depends on what side you're on that determines where you're going to shoot your arrows. Bring back navlax76, The Chairman, Lady Laker, Lax Fi, fraukness, and a multitude of others and these discussions wouldn't go quite the way they do these days by the handful of posters left, mostly of whom are on one side.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:34 amNot sure anyone here has made those declaratory statements other than Brooks and Cradle. You are on a lacrosse board.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:50 am Individuals with their own minds do exist in the world of politics. There are Democrat policies I value and appreciate, and there are Republican policies I value and appreciate. If a president screws up, they should be called on it--whether they're with the elephants or the donkeys. I can't go down the line with either party. That said--there were things Trump said and did while he was in office that I was grateful for. Conversely there were things he said and did that really aggravated and disappointed me.
One thing I observe on the politics boards from time to time are these sweeping, all-encompassing broad strokes that make those wielding the sloppy paint brush look childish. All Republicans are this. All Democrats are that. All Trump supporters are this. All Biden supporters are that.
Please.
That question implies you’d say no and with respect to desantis that’s the delusional fantasyland you’re projecting onto others there.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:06 pmDo you consider both Haley & DeSantis to be authoritarians ?OCanada wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:57 pmIt seems that is exactly what you are doing. Triump projects as well. Authoritarians are good at itold salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:48 pm...cling to the fantasy that you make a difference. Can you bundle & drop in NH ? Do you organize on bingo night at the rest home ?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:08 amYes, the folks who have submitted are more important that the putative leader to whom they have submitted. You see it here for sure in the "Trump is Obama's fault" and "Democrats keep Trump relevant" nonsense.
I'm more focused on the people who gave trump power and enbabled him. A much much much larger and vast cohort than many lib hating folks here ever admit to be the case despite the reality of it. There's far too much of it here by protestors that they haven't enable this jerk - its a lie.
DocB?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:39 pmDMac, other than those two, do any of the other regulars (either side of the spectrum) make the sorts of "ALL" claims that ONW was suggesting get made on here?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:49 pm“Isn’t so wrong” is a qualifying statement. Nobody here has labeled all republicans this or all democrats are that other than the two I pointed out…but I can be just as wrong as the next guy. No shame in it.DMac wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:20 pmNit pick if you'd like but ONW isn't so wrong here. Ds, Rs, libs, conservatives, they're all phukked up, it just depends on what side you're on that determines where you're going to shoot your arrows. Bring back navlax76, The Chairman, Lady Laker, Lax Fi, fraukness, and a multitude of others and these discussions wouldn't go quite the way they do these days by the handful of posters left, mostly of whom are on one side.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:34 amNot sure anyone here has made those declaratory statements other than Brooks and Cradle. You are on a lacrosse board.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:50 am Individuals with their own minds do exist in the world of politics. There are Democrat policies I value and appreciate, and there are Republican policies I value and appreciate. If a president screws up, they should be called on it--whether they're with the elephants or the donkeys. I can't go down the line with either party. That said--there were things Trump said and did while he was in office that I was grateful for. Conversely there were things he said and did that really aggravated and disappointed me.
One thing I observe on the politics boards from time to time are these sweeping, all-encompassing broad strokes that make those wielding the sloppy paint brush look childish. All Republicans are this. All Democrats are that. All Trump supporters are this. All Biden supporters are that.
Please.
Hey, there might be someone else, but that's what I would have come up with as well.
Sure, we can find such on other social media platforms, but most people discuss the issues with some nuance on here, regardless of political perspective. Or do you not agree with TLD on that?
I don't consider DeSantis to be an authoritarian.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:36 pmThat question implies you’d say no and with respect to desantis that’s the delusional fantasyland you’re projecting onto others there.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:06 pmDo you consider both Haley & DeSantis to be authoritarians ?OCanada wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:57 pmIt seems that is exactly what you are doing. Triump projects as well. Authoritarians are good at itold salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:48 pm...cling to the fantasy that you make a difference. Can you bundle & drop in NH ? Do you organize on bingo night at the rest home ?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:08 amYes, the folks who have submitted are more important that the putative leader to whom they have submitted. You see it here for sure in the "Trump is Obama's fault" and "Democrats keep Trump relevant" nonsense.
I'm more focused on the people who gave trump power and enbabled him. A much much much larger and vast cohort than many lib hating folks here ever admit to be the case despite the reality of it. There's far too much of it here by protestors that they haven't enable this jerk - its a lie.
Ok….narrative. But you have boots on the ground expertise to state this narrative is false or just guessing from far away? Got a relative you talk to on the phone there?old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:37 pmI don't consider DeSantis to be an authoritarian.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:36 pmThat question implies you’d say no and with respect to desantis that’s the delusional fantasyland you’re projecting onto others there.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:06 pmDo you consider both Haley & DeSantis to be authoritarians ?OCanada wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:57 pmIt seems that is exactly what you are doing. Triump projects as well. Authoritarians are good at itold salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:48 pm...cling to the fantasy that you make a difference. Can you bundle & drop in NH ? Do you organize on bingo night at the rest home ?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:08 amYes, the folks who have submitted are more important that the putative leader to whom they have submitted. You see it here for sure in the "Trump is Obama's fault" and "Democrats keep Trump relevant" nonsense.
I'm more focused on the people who gave trump power and enbabled him. A much much much larger and vast cohort than many lib hating folks here ever admit to be the case despite the reality of it. There's far too much of it here by protestors that they haven't enable this jerk - its a lie.
Given his success, it's predictable that's the narrative that's being ginned up.
His repressed subjects in FL appear to be happy with him.
https://www.google.com/search?q=desanti ... nt=gws-wiz
We own a condo in St Augustine. My wife recently returned from a 2 week stay. She reported nothing new, sinister or alarming.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:43 pmOk….narrative. But you have boots on the ground expertise to state this narrative is false or just guessing from far away? Got a relative you talk to on the phone there?old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:37 pmI don't consider DeSantis to be an authoritarian.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:36 pmThat question implies you’d say no and with respect to desantis that’s the delusional fantasyland you’re projecting onto others there.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:06 pmDo you consider both Haley & DeSantis to be authoritarians ?OCanada wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:57 pmIt seems that is exactly what you are doing. Triump projects as well. Authoritarians are good at itold salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:48 pm...cling to the fantasy that you make a difference. Can you bundle & drop in NH ? Do you organize on bingo night at the rest home ?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:08 amYes, the folks who have submitted are more important that the putative leader to whom they have submitted. You see it here for sure in the "Trump is Obama's fault" and "Democrats keep Trump relevant" nonsense.
I'm more focused on the people who gave trump power and enbabled him. A much much much larger and vast cohort than many lib hating folks here ever admit to be the case despite the reality of it. There's far too much of it here by protestors that they haven't enable this jerk - its a lie.
Given his success, it's predictable that's the narrative that's being ginned up.
His repressed subjects in FL appear to be happy with him.
https://www.google.com/search?q=desanti ... nt=gws-wiz
Posting a link to a search is evidence of absolutely nothing. No idea where you got the notion that is some strong supporting evidence.
My search history is a algo wrecker so I think you mistake information and supporting evidence substantially here.
That’s your evidence? I mean I was in Longwood visiting my best friend and sons godfather recently and saw all sorts of issues. My client and close friend in Broward county also reports issues in the state.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:55 pmWe own a condo in St Augustine. My wife recently returned from a 2 week stay. She reported nothing new, sinister or alarming.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:43 pmOk….narrative. But you have boots on the ground expertise to state this narrative is false or just guessing from far away? Got a relative you talk to on the phone there?old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:37 pmI don't consider DeSantis to be an authoritarian.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:36 pmThat question implies you’d say no and with respect to desantis that’s the delusional fantasyland you’re projecting onto others there.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:06 pmDo you consider both Haley & DeSantis to be authoritarians ?OCanada wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:57 pmIt seems that is exactly what you are doing. Triump projects as well. Authoritarians are good at itold salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:48 pm...cling to the fantasy that you make a difference. Can you bundle & drop in NH ? Do you organize on bingo night at the rest home ?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:08 amYes, the folks who have submitted are more important that the putative leader to whom they have submitted. You see it here for sure in the "Trump is Obama's fault" and "Democrats keep Trump relevant" nonsense.
I'm more focused on the people who gave trump power and enbabled him. A much much much larger and vast cohort than many lib hating folks here ever admit to be the case despite the reality of it. There's far too much of it here by protestors that they haven't enable this jerk - its a lie.
Given his success, it's predictable that's the narrative that's being ginned up.
His repressed subjects in FL appear to be happy with him.
https://www.google.com/search?q=desanti ... nt=gws-wiz
Posting a link to a search is evidence of absolutely nothing. No idea where you got the notion that is some strong supporting evidence.
My search history is a algo wrecker so I think you mistake information and supporting evidence substantially here.
My search pages were filled with articles containing both "DeSantis" & "authoritarian". It will be interesting to see what other algo's yield.
Well someones spouse vacationed for two weeks on the beach and reported nothing sinister which means he’s clearly beloved by 100% of the population there and nothing is wrong at all.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:04 pm https://www.politico.com/newsletters/fl ... s-00127753
I also typed " DeSantis". The responses contained both.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:17 pmThat’s your evidence? I mean I was in Longwood visiting my best friend and sons godfather recently and saw all sorts of issues. My client and close friend in Broward county also reports issues in the state.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:55 pmWe own a condo in St Augustine. My wife recently returned from a 2 week stay. She reported nothing new, sinister or alarming.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:43 pmOk….narrative. But you have boots on the ground expertise to state this narrative is false or just guessing from far away? Got a relative you talk to on the phone there?old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:37 pmI don't consider DeSantis to be an authoritarian.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:36 pmThat question implies you’d say no and with respect to desantis that’s the delusional fantasyland you’re projecting onto others there.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:06 pmDo you consider both Haley & DeSantis to be authoritarians ?OCanada wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:57 pmIt seems that is exactly what you are doing. Triump projects as well. Authoritarians are good at itold salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:48 pm...cling to the fantasy that you make a difference. Can you bundle & drop in NH ? Do you organize on bingo night at the rest home ?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:08 amYes, the folks who have submitted are more important that the putative leader to whom they have submitted. You see it here for sure in the "Trump is Obama's fault" and "Democrats keep Trump relevant" nonsense.
I'm more focused on the people who gave trump power and enbabled him. A much much much larger and vast cohort than many lib hating folks here ever admit to be the case despite the reality of it. There's far too much of it here by protestors that they haven't enable this jerk - its a lie.
Given his success, it's predictable that's the narrative that's being ginned up.
His repressed subjects in FL appear to be happy with him.
https://www.google.com/search?q=desanti ... nt=gws-wiz
Posting a link to a search is evidence of absolutely nothing. No idea where you got the notion that is some strong supporting evidence.
My search history is a algo wrecker so I think you mistake information and supporting evidence substantially here.
My search pages were filled with articles containing both "DeSantis" & "authoritarian". It will be interesting to see what other algo's yield.
The use is sinister and alarming is worthless as it’s not what we were discussing and so irrelevant terms and a two week vacation on the beach. Well the visitors in Sun City we’re known to report nothing sinister or alarming either. Takes open minded awareness…
You typed authoritarian in the search field. That’s what the link you proceed states.
yes, the articles indicate all sorts of discussion as to why DeSantis IS an authoritarian. Most notably his use of government powers to target those who disagree with him politically, whether corporate or educational or elected official, officer of the court, immigrants in another state, or children...old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:23 pmI also typed " DeSantis". The responses contained both.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:17 pmThat’s your evidence? I mean I was in Longwood visiting my best friend and sons godfather recently and saw all sorts of issues. My client and close friend in Broward county also reports issues in the state.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:55 pmWe own a condo in St Augustine. My wife recently returned from a 2 week stay. She reported nothing new, sinister or alarming.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:43 pmOk….narrative. But you have boots on the ground expertise to state this narrative is false or just guessing from far away? Got a relative you talk to on the phone there?old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:37 pmI don't consider DeSantis to be an authoritarian.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 7:36 pmThat question implies you’d say no and with respect to desantis that’s the delusional fantasyland you’re projecting onto others there.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:06 pmDo you consider both Haley & DeSantis to be authoritarians ?OCanada wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:57 pmIt seems that is exactly what you are doing. Triump projects as well. Authoritarians are good at itold salt wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:48 pm...cling to the fantasy that you make a difference. Can you bundle & drop in NH ? Do you organize on bingo night at the rest home ?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:08 amYes, the folks who have submitted are more important that the putative leader to whom they have submitted. You see it here for sure in the "Trump is Obama's fault" and "Democrats keep Trump relevant" nonsense.
I'm more focused on the people who gave trump power and enbabled him. A much much much larger and vast cohort than many lib hating folks here ever admit to be the case despite the reality of it. There's far too much of it here by protestors that they haven't enable this jerk - its a lie.
Given his success, it's predictable that's the narrative that's being ginned up.
His repressed subjects in FL appear to be happy with him.
https://www.google.com/search?q=desanti ... nt=gws-wiz
Posting a link to a search is evidence of absolutely nothing. No idea where you got the notion that is some strong supporting evidence.
My search history is a algo wrecker so I think you mistake information and supporting evidence substantially here.
My search pages were filled with articles containing both "DeSantis" & "authoritarian". It will be interesting to see what other algo's yield.
The use is sinister and alarming is worthless as it’s not what we were discussing and so irrelevant terms and a two week vacation on the beach. Well the visitors in Sun City we’re known to report nothing sinister or alarming either. Takes open minded awareness…
You typed authoritarian in the search field. That’s what the link you proceed states.
I'll ask my wife to be more vigilant on her next visit.