IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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I didn’t think Firth would make their top ten,

so looks like IL has made some (good?) adjustments.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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Wasn’t Jake Spallina like 87 ish before and now 49? Big jump if that’s correct.

And unless I missed it Hill Plunkett, younger brother to PL ROY Evan, went from 39th to off the list.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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TrooperJT420 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.

5-Star Recruits in the Power 100

1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
Thought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:17 pm Wasn’t Jake Spallina like 87 ish before and now 49? Big jump if that’s correct.

And unless I missed it Hill Plunkett, younger brother to PL ROY Evan, went from 39th to off the list.
I am not sure where you are getting the 87 number - IL doesn't publish a list of more than 50 until the final version. Perhaps NLF ranked him there at some point, though the most recent ranking they have for him is 26th.

I do wish IL gave more more insight into why certain guys rose or fell.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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Here is Ty’s original 2023 Top 50,

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ings/60555

Looks like the biggest mover was Willem Firth,
from not top 50, 4 Star,

to 5 Star, number 9 rated.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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GaitsRightHand wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pm
TrooperJT420 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.

5-Star Recruits in the Power 100

1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
Thought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.
I think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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10stone5 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:56 pm Here is Ty’s original 2023 Top 50,

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ings/60555

Looks like the biggest mover was Willem Firth,
from not top 50, 4 Star,

to 5 Star, number 9 rated.
Quintan Kilrain also went from off the list to 5-star and #11. Had a huge senior year at Lawrenceville and looks like he'll be in the mix at LSM/D for the Jays early.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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Powellfan22 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:44 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:17 pm Wasn’t Jake Spallina like 87 ish before and now 49? Big jump if that’s correct.

And unless I missed it Hill Plunkett, younger brother to PL ROY Evan, went from 39th to off the list.
Hill Plunkett is at USMAPS this year so he will not be a freshman for Army until the 2025 season. That is why he is not on the list.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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HopFan16 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:25 pm
10stone5 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:56 pm Here is Ty’s original 2023 Top 50,

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ings/60555

Looks like the biggest mover was Willem Firth,
from not top 50, 4 Star,

to 5 Star, number 9 rated.
Quintan Kilrain also went from off the list to 5-star and #11. Had a huge senior year at Lawrenceville and looks like he'll be in the mix at LSM/D for the Jays early.
Tremendous bump upwards for him,
I’ll be keeping close tabs on Kilrain, also good to see Iler making the top 100.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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coda wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:06 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pm
TrooperJT420 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.

5-Star Recruits in the Power 100

1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
Thought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.
I think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.
Just based on that above list, if we’re talking about immediate impact and not necessarily the top talent-wise,

I’d go with Duffy, Kabiri, Moore and Lehman for immediate impact.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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10stone5 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:44 pm
coda wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:06 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pm
TrooperJT420 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.

5-Star Recruits in the Power 100

1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
Thought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.
I think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.
Just based on that above list, if we’re talking about immediate impact and not necessarily the top talent-wise,

I’d go with Duffy, Kabiri, Moore and Lehman for immediate impact.
Agree. 4 guys whose teams are unlikely to be in the tournament.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen

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10stone5 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:44 pm
coda wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:06 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pm
TrooperJT420 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.

5-Star Recruits in the Power 100

1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
Thought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.
I think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.
Just based on that above list, if we’re talking about immediate impact and not necessarily the top talent-wise,

I’d go with Duffy, Kabiri, Moore and Lehman for immediate impact.
I got Kabiri. I believe Petro will be back. I saw him play in HS and he was never ball dominant. That will limit Duffy. Going with a goalie was damn good call
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When's the last time Maryland hasn't had a top 20 guy?
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blue angels wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:03 pm
10stone5 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:44 pm
coda wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:06 pm
GaitsRightHand wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pm
TrooperJT420 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.

5-Star Recruits in the Power 100

1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
Thought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.
I think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.
Just based on that above list, if we’re talking about immediate impact and not necessarily the top talent-wise,

I’d go with Duffy, Kabiri, Moore and Lehman for immediate impact.
Agree. 4 guys whose teams are unlikely to be in the tournament.
Princeton, Penn State, and Georgetown are unlikely to make the tourney?? What?? :lol:
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Laxguy703 wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:46 am Princeton, Penn State, and Georgetown are unlikely to make the tourney?? What?? :lol:
LOL I thought the exact same thing
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