I didn’t think Firth would make their top ten,
so looks like IL has made some (good?) adjustments.
IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
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Wasn’t Jake Spallina like 87 ish before and now 49? Big jump if that’s correct.
And unless I missed it Hill Plunkett, younger brother to PL ROY Evan, went from 39th to off the list.
And unless I missed it Hill Plunkett, younger brother to PL ROY Evan, went from 39th to off the list.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
Thought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.TrooperJT420 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.
5-Star Recruits in the Power 100
1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
I am not sure where you are getting the 87 number - IL doesn't publish a list of more than 50 until the final version. Perhaps NLF ranked him there at some point, though the most recent ranking they have for him is 26th.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:17 pm Wasn’t Jake Spallina like 87 ish before and now 49? Big jump if that’s correct.
And unless I missed it Hill Plunkett, younger brother to PL ROY Evan, went from 39th to off the list.
I do wish IL gave more more insight into why certain guys rose or fell.
Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
Here is Ty’s original 2023 Top 50,
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ings/60555
Looks like the biggest mover was Willem Firth,
from not top 50, 4 Star,
to 5 Star, number 9 rated.
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ings/60555
Looks like the biggest mover was Willem Firth,
from not top 50, 4 Star,
to 5 Star, number 9 rated.
Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
I think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.GaitsRightHand wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pmThought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.TrooperJT420 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.
5-Star Recruits in the Power 100
1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
Quintan Kilrain also went from off the list to 5-star and #11. Had a huge senior year at Lawrenceville and looks like he'll be in the mix at LSM/D for the Jays early.10stone5 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:56 pm Here is Ty’s original 2023 Top 50,
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ings/60555
Looks like the biggest mover was Willem Firth,
from not top 50, 4 Star,
to 5 Star, number 9 rated.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
Powellfan22 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:44 pmHill Plunkett is at USMAPS this year so he will not be a freshman for Army until the 2025 season. That is why he is not on the list.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:17 pm Wasn’t Jake Spallina like 87 ish before and now 49? Big jump if that’s correct.
And unless I missed it Hill Plunkett, younger brother to PL ROY Evan, went from 39th to off the list.
Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
Tremendous bump upwards for him,HopFan16 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:25 pmQuintan Kilrain also went from off the list to 5-star and #11. Had a huge senior year at Lawrenceville and looks like he'll be in the mix at LSM/D for the Jays early.10stone5 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:56 pm Here is Ty’s original 2023 Top 50,
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ings/60555
Looks like the biggest mover was Willem Firth,
from not top 50, 4 Star,
to 5 Star, number 9 rated.
I’ll be keeping close tabs on Kilrain, also good to see Iler making the top 100.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
Just based on that above list, if we’re talking about immediate impact and not necessarily the top talent-wise,coda wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:06 pmI think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.GaitsRightHand wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pmThought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.TrooperJT420 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.
5-Star Recruits in the Power 100
1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
I’d go with Duffy, Kabiri, Moore and Lehman for immediate impact.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
Agree. 4 guys whose teams are unlikely to be in the tournament.10stone5 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:44 pmJust based on that above list, if we’re talking about immediate impact and not necessarily the top talent-wise,coda wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:06 pmI think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.GaitsRightHand wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pmThought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.TrooperJT420 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.
5-Star Recruits in the Power 100
1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
I’d go with Duffy, Kabiri, Moore and Lehman for immediate impact.
Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
I got Kabiri. I believe Petro will be back. I saw him play in HS and he was never ball dominant. That will limit Duffy. Going with a goalie was damn good call10stone5 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:44 pmJust based on that above list, if we’re talking about immediate impact and not necessarily the top talent-wise,coda wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:06 pmI think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.GaitsRightHand wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pmThought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.TrooperJT420 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.
5-Star Recruits in the Power 100
1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
I’d go with Duffy, Kabiri, Moore and Lehman for immediate impact.
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Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
When's the last time Maryland hasn't had a top 20 guy?
Re: IL Class of 2023 Power 100 Incoming Freshmen
Princeton, Penn State, and Georgetown are unlikely to make the tourney?? What??blue angels wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:03 pmAgree. 4 guys whose teams are unlikely to be in the tournament.10stone5 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:44 pmJust based on that above list, if we’re talking about immediate impact and not necessarily the top talent-wise,coda wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:06 pmI think this is just a ranking based on talent evals, not actual impact. I saw Hoffman, Firth, Delgado, Deere, and Nikolic in person and Delgado was far and away the most impressive of the bunch (1 or 2 games, so keep that in mind) and I would not have him top 10 in terms of impact as a freshman. Nothing to do with talent and everything to do with opportunity, Duke is just loaded.GaitsRightHand wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:19 pmThought Kabiri would be above Millon since he's stepping into a starting spot and looking to be more of an impact player. Not that Millon isn't but Shelly still has the keys to the offense.TrooperJT420 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:29 pm Just released on IL.com. Duffy is where he belongs. Couple former 5 stars dropped out and some others moved up. The full top 100 is on the IL site now.
5-Star Recruits in the Power 100
1. Owen Duffy | A | North Carolina | St. Anthony's (N.Y.)
2. McCabe Millon | A | Virginia | McDonogh (Md.)
3. Nate Kabiri | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
4. Benn Johnston | M | Duke | Avon Old Farms (Conn.)
5. Leo Hoffman | M | Penn | Brunswick (Conn.)
6. AJ Marsh | D | Navy | McDonogh (Md.)
7. Matt Tully | G | Cornell | Noble & Greenough (Mass.)
8. Anderson Moore | G | Georgetown | Briarwood Christian (Ala.)
9. Willem Firth | A | Cornell | Hill Academy (Ont.)
10. Tomas Delgado | M | Duke | Brunswick (Conn.)
11. Quintan Kilrain | D | Johns Hopkins | Lawrenceville (N.J.)
12. Hunter Spiess | D | Princeton | Brunswick (Conn.)
13. Ty Banks | D | Georgetown | Western Reserve (Ohio)
14. Caleb Fyock | G | Ohio State | St. John's (D.C.)
15. Brady Wambach | FO | North Carolina | Salisbury (Conn.)
16. Mac Christmas | LSM | Duke | McDonogh (Md.)
17. Trey Deere | A | Syracuse | Salisbury (Conn.)
18. AJ Nikolic | M | Cornell | Malvern Prep (Pa.)
19. Kyle Lehman | A | Penn State | Wissahickon (Pa.)
20. Colin Burns | A | Princeton | Georgetown Prep (Md.)
21. Sean Creter | FO | Maryland | Hunterdon Central (N.J.)
I’d go with Duffy, Kabiri, Moore and Lehman for immediate impact.
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