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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:31 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:10 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:57 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:09 am Helpful explainer on some of the documents from the IRS WB's, showing how Hunter tried (unsuccessfully) to clean up his tax mess before it became a campaign issue. He made things worse.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... remedy-tax

The usual suspects will attempt to trash the source, even though links to the documents are provided.
Actually YOU are the source most people trash around here and with some cause BTW. Bloviating and wasting bandwidth day after day.
Please STFU already. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:21 am Comer loaned his brother $200,000. You know what that means.

The Hunter Biden and criminal Mike Flynn obsessions are, at this point, just a little weird. The one he relentlessly defends was a general, took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and now sells -- literally -- a violent version of Christo-Fascism to the marketplace of the demented. Old Salt is buying.
No comment on the substance & evidence in the link. Just attack the messengers to divert from the substance.
Hah! You think I read anything you post on this thread? Please. Your dementia is yours to grapple with alone.
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John F. Solomon is an American journalist who was a contributor to Fox News until late 2020.[1][2][3][4] He was formerly an executive and editor-in-chief at The Washington Times.[5]


Solomon speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.
Although he won a number of awards (including the 2008 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award) for his investigative journalism, in recent years he has been accused of magnifying small scandals, creating fake controversy,[6][7][8] and advancing conspiracy theories.[1][3][9] During the Donald Trump presidency, he advanced Trump-friendly stories including questioning reporting that women who had accused Trump of sexual harassment had also sought payments from partisan political donors[10] and questioning the legitimacy of criminal charges against Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort.[11]

He also played an important role in advancing conspiracy theories about unproven allegations of wrongdoing in Ukraine by Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Solomon's stories about the Bidens influenced Trump's fruitless attempt to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy into publicly launching an investigation into the elder Biden, an attempt that led to Trump's first impeachment.[4]

In 2020 he launched the website Just the News.[12]
The allegations about the Bidens & Ukraine are no longer unproven.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Kismet wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:09 am Helpful explainer on some of the documents from the IRS WB's, showing how Hunter tried (unsuccessfully) to clean up his tax mess before it became a campaign issue. He made things worse.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... remedy-tax

The usual suspects will attempt to trash the source, even though links to the documents are provided.
Actually YOU are the source most people trash around here and with some cause BTW. Bloviating and wasting bandwidth day after day.
Please STFU already. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
No comment on the substance or evidence. Just attack the messenger.
Why clutter up & extend the page if you have nothing to say on the topic.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:21 am Comer loaned his brother $200,000. You know what that means.

The Hunter Biden and criminal Mike Flynn obsessions are, at this point, just a little weird. The one he relentlessly defends was a general, took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and now sells -- literally -- a violent version of Christo-Fascism to the marketplace of the demented. Old Salt is buying.
No comment on the substance or evidence. Just attack the messenger.
Why clutter up & extend the page if you have nothing to say on the topic.
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old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:59 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:31 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:10 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:57 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:09 am Helpful explainer on some of the documents from the IRS WB's, showing how Hunter tried (unsuccessfully) to clean up his tax mess before it became a campaign issue. He made things worse.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... remedy-tax

The usual suspects will attempt to trash the source, even though links to the documents are provided.
Actually YOU are the source most people trash around here and with some cause BTW. Bloviating and wasting bandwidth day after day.
Please STFU already. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:21 am Comer loaned his brother $200,000. You know what that means.

The Hunter Biden and criminal Mike Flynn obsessions are, at this point, just a little weird. The one he relentlessly defends was a general, took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and now sells -- literally -- a violent version of Christo-Fascism to the marketplace of the demented. Old Salt is buying.
No comment on the substance & evidence in the link. Just attack the messengers to divert from the substance.
Hah! You think I read anything you post on this thread? Please. Your dementia is yours to grapple with alone.
Old Soldier’s go to:

John F. Solomon is an American journalist who was a contributor to Fox News until late 2020.[1][2][3][4] He was formerly an executive and editor-in-chief at The Washington Times.[5]


Solomon speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.
Although he won a number of awards (including the 2008 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award) for his investigative journalism, in recent years he has been accused of magnifying small scandals, creating fake controversy,[6][7][8] and advancing conspiracy theories.[1][3][9] During the Donald Trump presidency, he advanced Trump-friendly stories including questioning reporting that women who had accused Trump of sexual harassment had also sought payments from partisan political donors[10] and questioning the legitimacy of criminal charges against Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort.[11]

He also played an important role in advancing conspiracy theories about unproven allegations of wrongdoing in Ukraine by Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Solomon's stories about the Bidens influenced Trump's fruitless attempt to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy into publicly launching an investigation into the elder Biden, an attempt that led to Trump's first impeachment.[4]

In 2020 he launched the website Just the News.[12]
The allegations about the Bidens & Ukraine are no longer unproven.
80% isn’t applicable.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:59 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:31 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:10 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:57 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:09 am Helpful explainer on some of the documents from the IRS WB's, showing how Hunter tried (unsuccessfully) to clean up his tax mess before it became a campaign issue. He made things worse.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... remedy-tax

The usual suspects will attempt to trash the source, even though links to the documents are provided.
Actually YOU are the source most people trash around here and with some cause BTW. Bloviating and wasting bandwidth day after day.
Please STFU already. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:21 am Comer loaned his brother $200,000. You know what that means.

The Hunter Biden and criminal Mike Flynn obsessions are, at this point, just a little weird. The one he relentlessly defends was a general, took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and now sells -- literally -- a violent version of Christo-Fascism to the marketplace of the demented. Old Salt is buying.
No comment on the substance & evidence in the link. Just attack the messengers to divert from the substance.
Hah! You think I read anything you post on this thread? Please. Your dementia is yours to grapple with alone.
Old Soldier’s go to:

John F. Solomon is an American journalist who was a contributor to Fox News until late 2020.[1][2][3][4] He was formerly an executive and editor-in-chief at The Washington Times.[5]


Solomon speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.
Although he won a number of awards (including the 2008 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award) for his investigative journalism, in recent years he has been accused of magnifying small scandals, creating fake controversy,[6][7][8] and advancing conspiracy theories.[1][3][9] During the Donald Trump presidency, he advanced Trump-friendly stories including questioning reporting that women who had accused Trump of sexual harassment had also sought payments from partisan political donors[10] and questioning the legitimacy of criminal charges against Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort.[11]

He also played an important role in advancing conspiracy theories about unproven allegations of wrongdoing in Ukraine by Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Solomon's stories about the Bidens influenced Trump's fruitless attempt to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy into publicly launching an investigation into the elder Biden, an attempt that led to Trump's first impeachment.[4]

In 2020 he launched the website Just the News.[12]
The allegations about the Bidens & Ukraine are no longer unproven.
What allegations?

A whole lot of the 'theories' and accusations have been disproven, thoroughly and credibly refuted, but what is "proven" that wasn't admitted long ago?
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:18 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:59 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:31 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:10 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:57 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:09 am Helpful explainer on some of the documents from the IRS WB's, showing how Hunter tried (unsuccessfully) to clean up his tax mess before it became a campaign issue. He made things worse.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... remedy-tax

The usual suspects will attempt to trash the source, even though links to the documents are provided.
Actually YOU are the source most people trash around here and with some cause BTW. Bloviating and wasting bandwidth day after day.
Please STFU already. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:21 am Comer loaned his brother $200,000. You know what that means.

The Hunter Biden and criminal Mike Flynn obsessions are, at this point, just a little weird. The one he relentlessly defends was a general, took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and now sells -- literally -- a violent version of Christo-Fascism to the marketplace of the demented. Old Salt is buying.
No comment on the substance & evidence in the link. Just attack the messengers to divert from the substance.
Hah! You think I read anything you post on this thread? Please. Your dementia is yours to grapple with alone.
Old Soldier’s go to:

John F. Solomon is an American journalist who was a contributor to Fox News until late 2020.[1][2][3][4] He was formerly an executive and editor-in-chief at The Washington Times.[5]


Solomon speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.
Although he won a number of awards (including the 2008 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award) for his investigative journalism, in recent years he has been accused of magnifying small scandals, creating fake controversy,[6][7][8] and advancing conspiracy theories.[1][3][9] During the Donald Trump presidency, he advanced Trump-friendly stories including questioning reporting that women who had accused Trump of sexual harassment had also sought payments from partisan political donors[10] and questioning the legitimacy of criminal charges against Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort.[11]

He also played an important role in advancing conspiracy theories about unproven allegations of wrongdoing in Ukraine by Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Solomon's stories about the Bidens influenced Trump's fruitless attempt to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy into publicly launching an investigation into the elder Biden, an attempt that led to Trump's first impeachment.[4]

In 2020 he launched the website Just the News.[12]
The allegations about the Bidens & Ukraine are no longer unproven.
What allegations?

A whole lot of the 'theories' and accusations have been disproven, thoroughly and credibly refuted, but what is "proven" that wasn't admitted long ago?
At least 80% has been disproven and the remaining 20% is unproven.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:20 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:18 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:59 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:31 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:10 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:57 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:09 am Helpful explainer on some of the documents from the IRS WB's, showing how Hunter tried (unsuccessfully) to clean up his tax mess before it became a campaign issue. He made things worse.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... remedy-tax

The usual suspects will attempt to trash the source, even though links to the documents are provided.
Actually YOU are the source most people trash around here and with some cause BTW. Bloviating and wasting bandwidth day after day.
Please STFU already. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:21 am Comer loaned his brother $200,000. You know what that means.

The Hunter Biden and criminal Mike Flynn obsessions are, at this point, just a little weird. The one he relentlessly defends was a general, took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and now sells -- literally -- a violent version of Christo-Fascism to the marketplace of the demented. Old Salt is buying.
No comment on the substance & evidence in the link. Just attack the messengers to divert from the substance.
Hah! You think I read anything you post on this thread? Please. Your dementia is yours to grapple with alone.
Old Soldier’s go to:

John F. Solomon is an American journalist who was a contributor to Fox News until late 2020.[1][2][3][4] He was formerly an executive and editor-in-chief at The Washington Times.[5]


Solomon speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C.
Although he won a number of awards (including the 2008 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award) for his investigative journalism, in recent years he has been accused of magnifying small scandals, creating fake controversy,[6][7][8] and advancing conspiracy theories.[1][3][9] During the Donald Trump presidency, he advanced Trump-friendly stories including questioning reporting that women who had accused Trump of sexual harassment had also sought payments from partisan political donors[10] and questioning the legitimacy of criminal charges against Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort.[11]

He also played an important role in advancing conspiracy theories about unproven allegations of wrongdoing in Ukraine by Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Solomon's stories about the Bidens influenced Trump's fruitless attempt to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy into publicly launching an investigation into the elder Biden, an attempt that led to Trump's first impeachment.[4]

In 2020 he launched the website Just the News.[12]
The allegations about the Bidens & Ukraine are no longer unproven.
What allegations?

A whole lot of the 'theories' and accusations have been disproven, thoroughly and credibly refuted, but what is "proven" that wasn't admitted long ago?
At least 80% has been disproven and the remaining 20% is unproven.
That's roughly what I thought was the ratio. Always interested to hear where I might have been wrong, behind the news, but color me skeptical... ;)
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:18 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:59 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:31 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:10 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:57 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:09 am Helpful explainer on some of the documents from the IRS WB's, showing how Hunter tried (unsuccessfully) to clean up his tax mess before it became a campaign issue. He made things worse.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... remedy-tax

The usual suspects will attempt to trash the source, even though links to the documents are provided.
Actually YOU are the source most people trash around here and with some cause BTW. Bloviating and wasting bandwidth day after day.
Please STFU already. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:21 am Comer loaned his brother $200,000. You know what that means.

The Hunter Biden and criminal Mike Flynn obsessions are, at this point, just a little weird. The one he relentlessly defends was a general, took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and now sells -- literally -- a violent version of Christo-Fascism to the marketplace of the demented. Old Salt is buying.
No comment on the substance & evidence in the link. Just attack the messengers to divert from the substance.
Hah! You think I read anything you post on this thread? Please. Your dementia is yours to grapple with alone.
Old Soldier’s go to:
John F. Solomon is an American journalist who was a contributor to Fox News until late 2020.[1][2][3][4] He was formerly an executive and editor-in-chief at The Washington Times.[5]

He also played an important role in advancing conspiracy theories about unproven allegations of wrongdoing in Ukraine by Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Solomon's stories about the Bidens influenced Trump's fruitless attempt to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy into publicly launching an investigation into the elder Biden, an attempt that led to Trump's first impeachment.[4]
The allegations about the Bidens & Ukraine are no longer unproven.
What allegations?
A whole lot of the 'theories' and accusations have been disproven, thoroughly and credibly refuted, but what is "proven" that wasn't admitted long ago?
What part of the below has been "disproven, thoroughly and credibly refuted" ?

Do you reject the findings of the IRS WB's in their investigation, as well as the Congressional testimony of the accountant who Hunter hired in 2020 to try to clean up his mess ?

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... e_vignette

As Joe Biden marched toward the presidency in 2020... , his son Hunter was scrambling behind closed doors to clean up a trail of his own delinquent taxes before they became an election scandal, according to once-secret IRS memos made public recently by Congress.

IRS agents would soon discover that the future first son was continuing to allegedly misrepresent his income and deductions to the very accountant he had hired to help, the memos show.

The documents... show that Jeffrey Gelfound, an Edward White & Company tax accountant hired by Hunter Biden, was a cooperating witness in the IRS criminal probe of the first son and is likely to be a key witness if the younger Biden is charged with tax crimes by Special Counsel David Weiss.

Gelfound also could become a witness of interest to the House Oversight and Accountability Committee as it digs deeper into the Biden family finances as part of the ongoing impeachment inquiry in Congress.

Buried in the mountain of 700 pages of IRS whistleblower documents released in September by the House Ways and Means Committee are interview reports, affidavits and case summary memos chronicling Hunter Biden’s efforts at the height of the 2020 presidential campaign to remedy his delinquent income taxes dating to 2014 and the income he made from the Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings.

Gelfound told agents the efforts in 2020 to pay off Hunter Biden tax debts became a priority because of fears the IRS and other tax authorities would place liens that would become public, a potential embarrassment for the Biden family.

"Yeah, if there was going to be media attention because they were going to lien," Gelfound told IRS agents in an April 2021 interview when asked whether erasing the tax debts had become prioritized.

In another later interview conducted by IRS agents in November 2021, Gelfound revealed that his firm signed an unusual representation letter with the younger Biden just days after the 2020 election, in which Hunter attested that the information that he provided was truthful. Gelfound told investigators that this was the first time he had ever seen a representation letter like it.

“Yeah, when would you typically sign the representation?” the IRS investigators asked Gelfound. “This is- any type of representation, it’s not standard,” Gelfound answered.

“When we typically prepare returns, there’s an engagement letter that’s different than this one,” Gelfound said, explaining to investigators why this representation letter was different. “[T]his is a first that I’ve seen and had a client sit down and sign a letter of this type,” he said.

Hunter Biden was specifically caught by his accountant misrepresenting income from a company he formed with former Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming, according to the IRS memos. Agents believed concerns about the accuracy of the information that Hunter Biden was providing may have spurred the accounting firm to require him to sign such a letter, according to an affidavit submitted to the Ways and Means Committee by one of the whistleblowers, Joseph Ziegler.

In a later interview with IRS investigators, Gelfound told the agents that Hunter Biden originally represented payments from Hudson West III, one of the limited liability companies tied to Hunter Biden, as loans made to him personally. Gelfound dug deeper, determined to classify the payments properly in his accounting of the younger Biden’s taxes, the memos show.

After a review of the provisions of the LLC, he found that Hunter Biden was owed a retainer fee and compensation from the company, meaning that Hunter had falsely classified income as loans. Hudson West III was a joint venture established by Hunter Biden and CEFC associate Gongwen Dong.

Gelfound said Hunter Biden did not push back when he explained what he had found, accepting the accountant's explanation and agreeing to remedy the mistake. It appears that Hunter Biden was confused about why this income should be classified as income rather than a loan, according to Gelfound.

Biden’s confusion may have stemmed from the fact that his Chinese partners had previously provided him payments in the form of loan on at least two separate occasions, in what Congressional Republicans argue were part of a Biden Family influence peddling scheme.

The accounting firm's instinct to have Hunter Biden attest to the truthfulness of his information proved prescient. Gelfound later discovered, through his interviews with IRS investigators, that Hunter Biden misrepresented multiple tax deductions at the same time that Gelfound was helping to remedy Biden's delinquent returns, the memos allege.

Gelfound told investigators he was not aware that multiple payments Hunter Biden claimed as business deductions—including a $30,000 payment to Columbia University for his daughter, a payment to John Hancock for life insurance, and payments for his daughter’s rent—were, in fact, personal expenses, and therefore taxable, the memos show.

...Hunter Biden also claimed deductions for payments to an “escort” and classified them as business expenses. When Gelfound was asked about these deductions, he told investigators that he was unaware of the true nature of the payments. Hunter Biden had verified that these escort payments were business expenses, according to Gelfound.

When Ziegler provided these documents to the House Ways and Means Committee, he explained how they would be used in a building the tax case to provide evidence that Hunter Biden willfully violated tax law.

For example, the representation letter “would have been included as evidence of willfulness and knowledge for the 2018 felony charges, which includes [tax evasion] and [false return] charges,” Ziegler wrote in his affidavit to the committee. Evidence of Hunter Biden’s misclassified payment from Hudson West III would have been used as evidence for similar charges for both the 2014 and 2018 tax years, he added.

However, despite the evidence collected by investigators, Hunter Biden has not been charged with any felony tax crimes. Two misdemeanor tax charges that were part of plea deal this summer with Weiss' office were withdrawn when a judge rejected what some called a "sweetheart" plea deal.

In testimony this summer, the IRS whistleblowers accused the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s office of allowing the statute of limitations to expire on Hunter Biden’s alleged tax crimes from before 2017. The statute of limitations on the tax violations uncovered by the IRS investigation for the 2014 and 2015 tax years expired in November 2022.

Ziegler and his supervisor Gary Shapley, another whistleblower and both Special Agents with long and distiguished careers, each told congressional investigators that the the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s office and the Justice Department delayed their investigation by, among other things, requiring prior approval for interviews, shutting down investigative steps like search warrants for Joe Biden’s Wilmington home, and leaving felonies out of proposed plea agreements.

The years of tax violations for which the statute of limitations expired last year included the bulk of payments from Hunter Biden’s work with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

“[Hunter Biden] directed to have a portion of his Burisma income paid back to himself personally as ‘loans’, even though Devon Archer had deducted these payments on the Rosemont Seneca Bohai tax return,” Ziegler wrote in his affidavit to Ways and Means. “[Hunter] had essentially loaned himself his own income from Burisma, failing to report this income from Burisma on his 2014 tax returns and failing to pay the taxes on this income.” In Spring of 2014, a Ukrainian oligarch placed Biden on the Burisma Board of Directors and agreed to pay him $1,000,000 per year.
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Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi !!!!!!!!!!!
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
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ggait wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:35 am Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi !!!!!!!!!!!
...& the film maker who caused it was jailed for only a year.

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/ ... tsy-091101
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old salt wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:47 am
ggait wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:35 am Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi !!!!!!!!!!!
...& the film maker who caused it was jailed for only a year.

https://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/ ... tsy-091101
So Burisma has been wrapped up….. thanks for the rundown.
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I greatly enjoy the back and forth. I'm reminded of the boxing scene in Cool Hand Luke. OS is Clarence and the rest of you play the role of Luke. OS should give y'all the same advice that Clarence gave to Luke...STAY DOWN BOY! :lol:
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old salt wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:29 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:18 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:59 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:31 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:10 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:57 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:09 am Helpful explainer on some of the documents from the IRS WB's, showing how Hunter tried (unsuccessfully) to clean up his tax mess before it became a campaign issue. He made things worse.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... remedy-tax

The usual suspects will attempt to trash the source, even though links to the documents are provided.
Actually YOU are the source most people trash around here and with some cause BTW. Bloviating and wasting bandwidth day after day.
Please STFU already. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:21 am Comer loaned his brother $200,000. You know what that means.

The Hunter Biden and criminal Mike Flynn obsessions are, at this point, just a little weird. The one he relentlessly defends was a general, took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and now sells -- literally -- a violent version of Christo-Fascism to the marketplace of the demented. Old Salt is buying.
No comment on the substance & evidence in the link. Just attack the messengers to divert from the substance.
Hah! You think I read anything you post on this thread? Please. Your dementia is yours to grapple with alone.
Old Soldier’s go to:
John F. Solomon is an American journalist who was a contributor to Fox News until late 2020.[1][2][3][4] He was formerly an executive and editor-in-chief at The Washington Times.[5]

He also played an important role in advancing conspiracy theories about unproven allegations of wrongdoing in Ukraine by Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Solomon's stories about the Bidens influenced Trump's fruitless attempt to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy into publicly launching an investigation into the elder Biden, an attempt that led to Trump's first impeachment.[4]
The allegations about the Bidens & Ukraine are no longer unproven.
What allegations?
A whole lot of the 'theories' and accusations have been disproven, thoroughly and credibly refuted, but what is "proven" that wasn't admitted long ago?
What part of the below has been "disproven, thoroughly and credibly refuted" ?

Do you reject the findings of the IRS WB's in their investigation, as well as the Congressional testimony of the accountant who Hunter hired in 2020 to try to clean up his mess ?

Yes

Thoroughly refuted.

Did Hunter do a bunch of things wrong? You betcha.

But all of the BS about the DOJ quashing Weiss' efforts to prosecute entirely refuted.

So, I repeat, what exactly has been proven that in any way that Joe or Garland did anything unethical or illegal?
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:39 am
old salt wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:29 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:18 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:59 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:31 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:10 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:57 pm
Kismet wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:32 am
old salt wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:09 am Helpful explainer on some of the documents from the IRS WB's, showing how Hunter tried (unsuccessfully) to clean up his tax mess before it became a campaign issue. He made things worse.

https://justthenews.com/accountability/ ... remedy-tax

The usual suspects will attempt to trash the source, even though links to the documents are provided.
Actually YOU are the source most people trash around here and with some cause BTW. Bloviating and wasting bandwidth day after day.
Please STFU already. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:21 am Comer loaned his brother $200,000. You know what that means.

The Hunter Biden and criminal Mike Flynn obsessions are, at this point, just a little weird. The one he relentlessly defends was a general, took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and now sells -- literally -- a violent version of Christo-Fascism to the marketplace of the demented. Old Salt is buying.
No comment on the substance & evidence in the link. Just attack the messengers to divert from the substance.
Hah! You think I read anything you post on this thread? Please. Your dementia is yours to grapple with alone.
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John F. Solomon is an American journalist who was a contributor to Fox News until late 2020.[1][2][3][4] He was formerly an executive and editor-in-chief at The Washington Times.[5]

He also played an important role in advancing conspiracy theories about unproven allegations of wrongdoing in Ukraine by Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Solomon's stories about the Bidens influenced Trump's fruitless attempt to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy into publicly launching an investigation into the elder Biden, an attempt that led to Trump's first impeachment.[4]
The allegations about the Bidens & Ukraine are no longer unproven.
What allegations?
A whole lot of the 'theories' and accusations have been disproven, thoroughly and credibly refuted, but what is "proven" that wasn't admitted long ago?
What part of the below has been "disproven, thoroughly and credibly refuted" ?

Do you reject the findings of the IRS WB's in their investigation, as well as the Congressional testimony of the accountant who Hunter hired in 2020 to try to clean up his mess ?

Yes

Thoroughly refuted.

Did Hunter do a bunch of things wrong? You betcha.

But all of the BS about the DOJ quashing Weiss' efforts to prosecute entirely refuted.

So, I repeat, what exactly has been proven that in any way that Joe or Garland did anything unethical or illegal?
It's been refuted on YOUR say so?? Where's your proof? IMO nothing can be refuted one way or the other until the investigation is over and done with. I have been paying attention to this matter long enough to understand that nothing has been refuted or proven. Claiming otherwise by either side is just plain silly until ALL the details have been adjudicated. Conjecture is all that is happening right now.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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I thought you were following this. Nice job.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-bi ... rcna123967
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OCanada wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:36 am I thought you were following this. Nice job.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-bi ... rcna123967
Old news home boy. So ask yourself this... David Weiss had all the authority he needed to prosecute. David Weiss did nothing with that authority. He sat on his hands and allowed the SOL to run out. The genesis of this problem was IRS agents frustrated by the lack of inaction on the part of David Weiss went public. They made credible accusations against David Weiss and the investigation still has a ways to go. You FLP folks have been opining ad nauseum about Weiss being a trump appointee. So that means using liberal logic that Weiss has to inherently be a pathological liar. 8-)
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:49 pm
OCanada wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:36 am I thought you were following this. Nice job.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-bi ... rcna123967
Old news home boy. So ask yourself this... David Weiss had all the authority he needed to prosecute. David Weiss did nothing with that authority. He sat on his hands and allowed the SOL to run out. The genesis of this problem was IRS agents frustrated by the lack of inaction on the part of David Weiss went public. They made credible accusations against David Weiss and the investigation still has a ways to go. You FLP folks have been opining ad nauseum about Weiss being a trump appointee. So that means using liberal logic that Weiss has to inherently be a pathological liar. 8-)
Yup, Weiss and two AG's and Garland have all thoroughly refuted the WB's 'story'.
That's a whole lot of Deep State conspiracy to say it ain't refuted.

It's actually pretty simple. Prosecutors like to prosecute cases they believe, with high confidence, they will win based on the evidence, and consistent with how they would treat any other defendant identified as doing the same acts. We'll learn later what drove various prosecutorial choices, but what we do know is that the WB's were flat wrong in their accusations that Weiss was prevented by Biden or Garland or the other AG's from bringing a case Weiss wanted to bring. Nope.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:49 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:49 pm
OCanada wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 10:36 am I thought you were following this. Nice job.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-bi ... rcna123967
Old news home boy. So ask yourself this... David Weiss had all the authority he needed to prosecute. David Weiss did nothing with that authority. He sat on his hands and allowed the SOL to run out. The genesis of this problem was IRS agents frustrated by the lack of inaction on the part of David Weiss went public. They made credible accusations against David Weiss and the investigation still has a ways to go. You FLP folks have been opining ad nauseum about Weiss being a trump appointee. So that means using liberal logic that Weiss has to inherently be a pathological liar. 8-)
Yup, Weiss and two AG's and Garland have all thoroughly refuted the WB's 'story'.
That's a whole lot of Deep State conspiracy to say it ain't refuted.

It's actually pretty simple. Prosecutors like to prosecute cases they believe, with high confidence, they will win based on the evidence, and consistent with how they would treat any other defendant identified as doing the same acts. We'll learn later what drove various prosecutorial choices, but what we do know is that the WB's were flat wrong in their accusations that Weiss was prevented by Biden or Garland or the other AG's from bringing a case Weiss wanted to bring. Nope.
We know a bit more. Weiss as Fed Prosecutor in DE had similar cases that he refused to prosecute. And yet here we are. Equal justice? Not in the GOP
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Yep. The reporting is that Weiss didn’t think there was enough to warrant a federal criminal prosecution for the earlier years. He said he will provide some type of explanation about his decision when he files his report. Of course, the frothers can’t wait and have to reach their own conclusions without a lick of evidence.

Perhaps kinda like when Bob Mueller found ample evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, but just not enough to warrant an indictment. Contrast that conclusion with his conclusion that there was enough evidence to indict Trump for obstructing justice.

Claiming that Weiss let the statute of limitations expire is sorta like saying Chris Christie, when he was USA in New Jersey, let the statute of limitations expire on a lot of stuff I did back then. Except I didn’t commit crimes, so Christie didn’t indict me.

It’s been a bad month for Gym-Bo Jordan. First, he now has an on-the-record vote about how unpopular he is in his own caucus. Now, his master plan of somehow smearing Joe Biden with dirt about his son has blown up. Jordan thought Weiss would not honor his subpoena. He planned to have him held in contempt of Congress and to then refer the matter to DOJ for prosecution. When Garland declined to prosecute Weiss, Jordan would scream bloody murder on all the right wing talk shows until the cows came home. Except Weiss showed up and shattered his grand plan. Even worse, Weiss testified that the Trumpists have been threatening him, his team, and their families. Once again, Jordan proves he is dumb as a rock. But then we knew that.
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:roll: Excuses, excuses, excuses.

The case initially referred to Weiss was not that complicated. The laptop evidence had not yet surfaced.

Simple fact -- Hunter did not file &/or pay taxes during the years in question.

How is that such a difficult case to prosecute that you allow the SOL to expire ?

There may not (yet) have been evidence of fraud, money laundering, or FARA violations until the laptop evidence surfaced.

There is no acceptable excuse for allowing the SOL to run on the tax violations from 2014 & 2015, even if they were just misdemeanor charges.
Hunter was allowed to skate on his tax obligations for those years.

This has not been refuted & Weiss has not answered for this :

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-just ... ration-its

Shapley said that last November, a tolling agreement that had extended the five-year statute of limitations was set to expire for Hunter Biden‘s evasion of taxes owed in 2014 and 2015.

A tolling agreement is often entered into between prosecutors and the target of an investigation in which the possible defendant agrees that the expiration of the statute of limitations will be waived through a certain date while the defendant and the prosecution continue to investigate, discuss, and potentially settle the case—such as with a plea agreement.

Hunter Biden‘s lawyers had agreed to such a tolling agreement, and Shapley says that the lawyers were willing to extend it past 2022. Yet according to Shapley, Delaware U.S. Attorney David Weiss let it expire. Why would any prosecutor do that?
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