The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

[jhu72]

Woman dragged and beaten at a Staten Island deli. Owner of deli refused to identify the young assailant to police. She probably deserved it.

[jhu72]

Dylan Mulvaney wins woman of the year award.

[Farfromgeneva]

Dylan Mulvaney wins woman of the year award.

Its fine I don’t care but understand this is simply a craven attempt to make money and coming from a Euro source where views overlap sometimes but other times not so much.

But that the award was given by a British magazine is like conferring status to the maxim sexy 100 list. This is how we gave too much time to Caitlyn Jenner and got this…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1J4143zj3ps

[DMac]

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

[lagerhead]

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

Not tuck friendly.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

The Victoria Secrets store in my town shut down in 2019….

https://www.statista.com/statistics/292 ... y-segment/

What do you make of Victoria Secret’s’ performance?

Did the company’s problems begin before or after 2021?

[NattyBohChamps04]

Clueless as to what changed, don't know why one's sex would even be an issue in a fishing competition.

Do you really want to know what changed?

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

Benzinga Neuro is your source?

It's weird that reading the VS actual strategic plan doesn't include anything the article claims. Not surprised it popped up in your feed though.

Either way, Hick-hop predicted this nearly 20 years ago.

Victoria's Secret, well their stuff's real nice
Oh, but I can buy the same damn thing on a Wal-Mart shelf half price
And still look sexy
Just as sexy as those models on TV
No, I don't need no designer tag
To make my man want me
You might think I'm trashy, a little too hardcore
But in my neck of the woods I'm just the girl next door

[DMac]

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

The Victoria Secrets store in my town shut down in 2019….

https://www.statista.com/statistics/292 ... y-segment/

What do you make of Victoria Secret’s’ performance?

Did the company’s problems begin before or after 2021?

The only thing I know about VS's performance is what's written in that article. Thought there was still one here in Cuse and there is at Destiny USA....big mall.

Here are some of the most popular Victoria's Secret models12345:
Tyra Banks
Adriana Lima
Gisele Bündchen
Heidi Klum
Alessandra Ambrosio

There's a commonality there, none of them look like Lizzy or Mulvaney.
My only reason for posting the article was to suggest that the vast majority
still likes/prefers what the vast majority has pretty much always liked/preferred.
One might find that a little difficult to believe with the flood of LGBTQ+, trans
news and promotion, but that's still a fact, jack. Victoria's Secret, IMHO, needs
to not forget who butters their bread like Bud did. Be as inclusive as want, be
smart about your market/prospective buyers too.

[MDlaxfan76]

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

The Victoria Secrets store in my town shut down in 2019….

https://www.statista.com/statistics/292 ... y-segment/

What do you make of Victoria Secret’s’ performance?

Did the company’s problems begin before or after 2021?

The only thing I know about VS's performance is what's written in that article. Thought there was still one here in Cuse and there is at Destiny USA....big mall.

Here are some of the most popular Victoria's Secret models12345:
Tyra Banks
Adriana Lima
Gisele Bündchen
Heidi Klum
Alessandra Ambrosio

There's a commonality there, none of them look like Lizzy or Mulvaney.
My only reason for posting the article was to suggest that the vast majority
still likes/prefers what the vast majority has pretty much always liked/preferred.
One might find that a little difficult to believe with the flood of LGBTQ+, trans
news and promotion, but that's still a fact, jack. Victoria's Secret, IMHO, needs
to not forget who butters their bread like Bud did. Be as inclusive as want, be
smart about your market/prospective buyers too.

Actually, they were in big trouble due to the me-too movement backlash.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40564654/re ... -metoo-era

And that was before it was understood how deeply tied Les Wexner was to Epstein...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06 ... est-client

They've been flailing trying to find a positioning that was both inclusive and sexy...but a whole lot of other brands have done the exclusive branding and product development better.

I don't think it's merely a matter of how you advertise, it's whether what you're selling continues to be appreciated as 'best in class', a positioning VS had enjoyed for a whole lot of years prior to the backlash.

And, of course, malls have taken a bath through the pandemic...

[DMac]

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

The Victoria Secrets store in my town shut down in 2019….

https://www.statista.com/statistics/292 ... y-segment/

What do you make of Victoria Secret’s’ performance?

Did the company’s problems begin before or after 2021?

The only thing I know about VS's performance is what's written in that article. Thought there was still one here in Cuse and there is at Destiny USA....big mall.

Here are some of the most popular Victoria's Secret models12345:
Tyra Banks
Adriana Lima
Gisele Bündchen
Heidi Klum
Alessandra Ambrosio

There's a commonality there, none of them look like Lizzy or Mulvaney.
My only reason for posting the article was to suggest that the vast majority
still likes/prefers what the vast majority has pretty much always liked/preferred.
One might find that a little difficult to believe with the flood of LGBTQ+, trans
news and promotion, but that's still a fact, jack. Victoria's Secret, IMHO, needs
to not forget who butters their bread like Bud did. Be as inclusive as want, be
smart about your market/prospective buyers too.

Actually, they were in big trouble due to the me-too movement backlash.

https://www.fastcompany.com/40564654/re ... -metoo-era

And that was before it was understood how deeply tied Les Wexner was to Epstein...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06 ... est-client

They've been flailing trying to find a positioning that was both inclusive and sexy...but a whole lot of other brands have done the exclusive branding and product development better.

I don't think it's merely a matter of how you advertise, it's whether what you're selling continues to be appreciated as 'best in class', a positioning VS had enjoyed for a whole lot of years prior to the backlash.

And, of course, malls have taken a bath through the pandemic...

Yup, been feeling some heat for awhile.

[DMac]

Clueless as to what changed, don't know why one's sex would even be an issue in a fishing competition.

Do you really want to know what changed?

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

Benzinga Neuro is your source?

It's weird that reading the VS actual strategic plan doesn't include anything the article claims. Not surprised it popped up in your feed though.

Either way, Hick-hop predicted this nearly 20 years ago.

Victoria's Secret, well their stuff's real nice
Oh, but I can buy the same damn thing on a Wal-Mart shelf half price
And still look sexy
Just as sexy as those models on TV
No, I don't need no designer tag
To make my man want me
You might think I'm trashy, a little too hardcore
But in my neck of the woods I'm just the girl next door

Meh, Victoria's Secret has always been what it is, high priced fantasy land lingerie. Just another example of sex sells and confirmation of P.T. Barnum's lessons.
Yup, Gretchen's pretty good. So is Rhianna.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU-iBVPz1Ww

[NattyBohChamps04]

Clueless as to what changed, don't know why one's sex would even be an issue in a fishing competition.

Do you really want to know what changed?

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

Benzinga Neuro is your source?

It's weird that reading the VS actual strategic plan doesn't include anything the article claims. Not surprised it popped up in your feed though.

Either way, Hick-hop predicted this nearly 20 years ago.

Victoria's Secret, well their stuff's real nice
Oh, but I can buy the same damn thing on a Wal-Mart shelf half price
And still look sexy
Just as sexy as those models on TV
No, I don't need no designer tag
To make my man want me
You might think I'm trashy, a little too hardcore
But in my neck of the woods I'm just the girl next door

Meh, Victoria's Secret has always been what it is, high priced fantasy land lingerie. Just another example of sex sells and confirmation of P.T. Barnum's lessons.
Yup, Gretchen's pretty good. So is Rhianna.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU-iBVPz1Ww

So your report isn't a "gotcha"?

Spiderman's karaoke umbrella is objectively better than rihanna's

[DMac]

The thread needed a little livening up.
The heteros got a little lovin' in this one.

I liked the no tuck comment too.

[Farfromgeneva]

Clueless as to what changed, don't know why one's sex would even be an issue in a fishing competition.

Do you really want to know what changed?

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

Benzinga Neuro is your source?

It's weird that reading the VS actual strategic plan doesn't include anything the article claims. Not surprised it popped up in your feed though.

Either way, Hick-hop predicted this nearly 20 years ago.

Victoria's Secret, well their stuff's real nice
Oh, but I can buy the same damn thing on a Wal-Mart shelf half price
And still look sexy
Just as sexy as those models on TV
No, I don't need no designer tag
To make my man want me
You might think I'm trashy, a little too hardcore
But in my neck of the woods I'm just the girl next door

https://www.victoriassecretandco.com/in ... sentations

Every publix company has an investor relations page, sometimes harder to find in about us but Google those words plus the company name and it come up.

Yes in this case it autofilled for me easily.

Here’s their latest IP

https://www.victoriassecretandco.com/st ... 3ebd9efef8

Yes more critically reading the notes in a 10k or 10q is better but this is a super easy way to check what one reads about a company.

This law pushes out after Henry Blodgett and Frank Quattone 20yrs ago called Reg FD makes it harder than ever to push information out contrary to what’s actually being planned or executed without ending up learning whether one likes syrup or jelly better.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Victoria's Secret.....back to sexy heterosexuals. Imagine that. Guess we're not gonna see Mulvaney on the catwalk in angel wings.

The company had made efforts to promote inclusivity, appointing pro-LGBTQ women’s soccer player, Megan Rapinoe, and a transgender woman as brand ambassadors. However, these initiatives did not lead to an increase in sales.

What Happened: A report by Fox Business on Monday revealed that Victoria’s Secret’s transition from a “hyper-sexualized” image to a more inclusive one has not resulted in any financial gains. The company’s projected revenue for 2023 is slated at $6.2 billion, a 5% decrease from last year and well below the $7.5 billion revenue of 2020.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vi ... cc28&ei=16

The Victoria Secrets store in my town shut down in 2019….

https://www.statista.com/statistics/292 ... y-segment/

What do you make of Victoria Secret’s’ performance?

Did the company’s problems begin before or after 2021?

The only thing I know about VS's performance is what's written in that article. Thought there was still one here in Cuse and there is at Destiny USA....big mall.

Here are some of the most popular Victoria's Secret models12345:
Tyra Banks
Adriana Lima
Gisele Bündchen
Heidi Klum
Alessandra Ambrosio

There's a commonality there, none of them look like Lizzy or Mulvaney.
My only reason for posting the article was to suggest that the vast majority
still likes/prefers what the vast majority has pretty much always liked/preferred.
One might find that a little difficult to believe with the flood of LGBTQ+, trans
news and promotion, but that's still a fact, jack. Victoria's Secret, IMHO, needs
to not forget who butters their bread like Bud did. Be as inclusive as want, be
smart about your market/prospective buyers too.

You take everything you read as truth now?

As for what the vast majority prefers….. water is wet…. But I may offer that the vast majority of people don’t care what Victoria Secrets does. When was the last time you shopped at one?

More background: https://www.businessinsider.com/victori ... ory-2019-5

[DMac]

You take everything you read as truth now?

As for what the vast majority prefers….. water is wet…. But I may offer that the vast majority of people don’t care what Victoria Secrets does. When was the last time you shopped at one?

W*T*F, TLD, you're smarter than to use the word everything there, no? Kind of falls right in there with never and always, doesn't it? Must be your joy in throwing jabs clouded the reasonable thinking part of your brain on that one.
Yup, I'd agree that the vast majority don't care much what Victoria Secrets (sic) does, looks like Victoria's Secrets does care that Rapinoe and the transgender were a bust though.
The vast majority still like what the vast majority has always liked. You choose to have Mulvaney in a see through negligee and Rapinoe in rainbow flag laced panties and you're not going to appeal to the vast majority IMHO. Sell, sell, sell, ya know, and the Victoria's Secret sales department does care, like every other sales department, about sales and who their product appeals to. Choose your strategy and ad campaigns wisely.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You take everything you read as truth now?

As for what the vast majority prefers….. water is wet…. But I may offer that the vast majority of people don’t care what Victoria Secrets does. When was the last time you shopped at one?

W*T*F, TLD, you're smarter than to use the word everything there, no? Kind of falls right in there with never and always, doesn't it? Must be your joy in throwing jabs clouded the reasonable thinking part of your brain on that one.
Yup, I'd agree that the vast majority don't care much what Victoria Secrets (sic) does, looks like Victoria's Secrets does care that Rapinoe and the transgender were a bust though.
The vast majority still like what the vast majority has always liked. You choose to have Mulvaney in a see through negligee and Rapinoe in rainbow flag laced panties and you're not going to appeal to the vast majority IMHO. Sell, sell, sell, ya know, and the Victoria's Secret sales department does care, like every other sales department, about sales and who their product appeals to. Choose your strategy and ad campaigns wisely.

So Rapinoe and whoever else didn’t reverse the trend? Seems like Victoria Secret’s started sliding well before Rapinoe and Mulvaney was the point of my post. You are infatuated with this LESBO stuff. Like many things, I first learned of Mulvaney on this site as it’s pretty much where I consume anything close to “social media”. BTW, pretty sure I have made more purchases at VS than you have over the past 6 years……Even have a photo of my daughter with Angel Wings on….Pretty sure she doesn’t care about Rapinoe and probably doesn’t know who Dylan Mulvaney is…… these companies all want to sell more product to more people. You think that’s a bad strategy? Marketing departments make mistakes all the time. It’s part of the business.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Kate Spade is in the tank….I have yet to come across any reference to Dylan Mulvaney modeling Victoria Secrets garments….Where did you see that DMAC?

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/victo ... index.html


But it’s all Megan Rapinoe and Dylan Mulvaney’s fault because someone wrote it on the internet….

>>Taking their place is a new group of seven ambassadors, called the “VS Collective,” who are known for their advocacy work in gender equality and body positivity, and who represent a wider range of body types and sexual and gender identities.

The collective – which includes soccer player Megan Rapinoe, actress Priyanka Chopra Jonas and plus-size model Paloma Elsesser – will work on new product lines and multimedia content, as well as supporting women’s causes for the company, according to a press release.<<

What happened to the rest of the collective? Megan couldn’t reverse the trend so she cost the company billions…I saw it on the internet.

[DMac]

Comin' out with some weak stuff, TLD.

You are infatuated with this LESBO stuff.

Told you many times the stuff pops up on the feed when I open my computer, also posted the thread needed a little livening up and here you are. Infatuated with lesbians is laughable.....oh, and is Mulvaney a LESBO?
Never said I saw Mulvaney in a sexy see through negligee, never said I saw Rapinoe in rainbow panties either, just thought it might be a good move in the inclusive ad campaign.
Victoria's Secret has been heading in the tank for a long time, apparently Rapinoe hasn't been able to bail 'em out, hopefully (for their sake) the new committee can.
Have never shopped at a VS, very unlikely I ever will.