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RE6ULATOR wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:35 pm
DeepPocket wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:15 pm
Asgot wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2023 3:49 pm Game week!! As I know there are no real answer created in the fall but What are you looking for in this weekends scrimmages?

Does Russo play? Who holds down the 3rd and 4th spots at attack. Can Russo and Townsend make the move from EMO specialist to full time players?

Middies - there is a lot of talent in the freshmen Class but do any of them break into the top 6

Defense who replaces Hull

LSM who is the next man up for Greene

SSDM - who provides depth at that position.

Goalie- does #0 solidify his spot or does the competition continue to the spring.

Coaches- do the new coaches bring a spark team that gets them over the jump or is it a learning year
Yes. It should be interesting. I’m looking forward to hearing who showed well. Lots of talent looking to fill these spots, first world problem, wonder who gets the first look in each.
Thinking goalies split the games. 0 and 8, two strong options, both need a look here. Keogh, Grayson and Mahorney at midfield to start, then not much drop off to dynamic second and third midfield mixes with Roper, Morton, Berard, Hines and Russo (bringing his experience and speed up to midfield like Clarke last year). All of them have the potential to be a threat from up top, and can bring their shorty behind the goal and invert from there. Attack by my guess will be Harnick, Townsend and Fisher. Blackmon, Biava and Ridgeway at D, but don’t count out some of these towering youngsters in a matchup specific situation. LSM will see Rubeling and Snodgrass splitting time, taking their turn, and keeping fresh legs out there.

Just my thoughts.
really interesting takes especially the idea of moving Fischer down to attack and Russo and HInes to midfield. If that is your defense what are you doing with Rutledge (#10) Are you loading up the top middie line or creating balance? Where is Kaplan? Did he play in the scrimmage a couple of weeks ago?
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Asgot wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:26 am really interesting takes especially the idea of moving Fischer down to attack and Russo and HInes to midfield. If that is your defense what are you doing with Rutledge (#10) Are you loading up the top middie line or creating balance? Where is Kaplan? Did he play in the scrimmage a couple of weeks ago?
Wasn’t at scrimmage, can’t speak to that. Yea throw Kaplan in the mix of talented midfield (think I only put 5 names for the 6 spots of 2nd and 3rd mid anyways). Also you’re right, swap Rutledge in for Ridgeway. Could def see Hines at attack, and bring Fisher up to to help add rounding out some more experience into the midfield units. I think you could see a lot of mid play positional rotation on the offensive end. Many of these players lend themselves to that capability.
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RE6ULATOR wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:47 am
Asgot wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:26 am really interesting takes especially the idea of moving Fischer down to attack and Russo and HInes to midfield. If that is your defense what are you doing with Rutledge (#10) Are you loading up the top middie line or creating balance? Where is Kaplan? Did he play in the scrimmage a couple of weeks ago?
Wasn’t at scrimmage, can’t speak to that. Yea throw Kaplan in the mix of talented midfield (think I only put 5 names for the 6 spots of 2nd and 3rd mid anyways). Also you’re right, swap Rutledge in for Ridgeway. Could def see Hines at attack, and bring Fisher up to to help add rounding out some more experience into the midfield units. I think you could see a lot of mid play positional rotation on the offensive end. Many of these players lend themselves to that capability.
For the defensive side of things, I would say keep Rutledge at LSM due to his experience and position development. Fisher would be good down low due to his ex-position in high school.

Does anyone know if the scrimmages will be streamed?
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TopCheddar wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:09 am
RE6ULATOR wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:47 am
Asgot wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:26 am really interesting takes especially the idea of moving Fischer down to attack and Russo and HInes to midfield. If that is your defense what are you doing with Rutledge (#10) Are you loading up the top middie line or creating balance? Where is Kaplan? Did he play in the scrimmage a couple of weeks ago?
Wasn’t at scrimmage, can’t speak to that. Yea throw Kaplan in the mix of talented midfield (think I only put 5 names for the 6 spots of 2nd and 3rd mid anyways). Also you’re right, swap Rutledge in for Ridgeway. Could def see Hines at attack, and bring Fisher up to to help add rounding out some more experience into the midfield units. I think you could see a lot of mid play positional rotation on the offensive end. Many of these players lend themselves to that capability.
For the defensive side of things, I would say keep Rutledge at LSM due to his experience and position development. Fisher would be good down low due to his ex-position in high school.

Does anyone know if the scrimmages will be streamed?
York does not have a communications department so there will be no stream.
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GoTerriers8 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:35 pm Was 8 battling injuries?
I believe so. Groin popping or something. Not sure.

Also, anyone heard about #20's injury? Believe he was using the wind bike during practice the other day. He would only push the pedals when a rep was in play. Must be a trainer's recommendation. Good for conditioning while recovering. Hopefully he gets stretched out before WCAC"s Version of Tufts: Catholic Men's Lacrosse. #DeepPocketAnalysis
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I HAVE ARRIVED... ASGOT
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Latest weather for Sunday am scrimmage is calling for 55 and no rain at game time. I might have to go watch
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Laxattackjack wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:26 am Latest weather for Sunday am scrimmage is calling for 55 and no rain at game time. I might have to go watch
Bruh these York fans weird af, why u going to watch a scrimmage.
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Did anyone attend or hear about the scrimmages? What were the scores and how did it go?
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TopCheddar wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:06 am Did anyone attend or hear about the scrimmages? What were the scores and how did it go?
I will give me brief non detailed overview. It’s hard to see how good or bad this York team will be when playing inferior teams in a fall scrimmage. Both games were not close. I think they were each about 17-7.

Attack started both games with 2,28 and 52. 9 got worked in with the starters. 28 looked good. I still feel like the other two spots are open and they haven’t figured out who yet

Mids started with 7,40 and 44. I feel like they are still trying to find that third mid. The second line was 22,26 and 31. Not sure what happened to 13. He got a few runs early in each game. But seemed to get most of his time later in the game.

25 and 32 took most of the faceoffs and both had a hard time with SMCM, but did well in the second game.

Goalies looked good. Each of the 4 played about 1/2 of a game. All looked good. All made some good saves.

Goals were spread out pretty good. Without seeing the stat sheet, I would guess that 28 lead all scoring. 40 and 44 each scored at least 3 times. I think 2 had multiple goals also

My prediction for this team is to be similar to the last few years. Good enough to get into the top 10, but would have a hard time against the power 4. I expect York to win the MAC. Have a hard time with RIT and SU. Gettysburg , W&L, Dickinson could go either way.
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Laxattackjack wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:54 am I will give me brief non detailed overview. It’s hard to see how good or bad this York team will be when playing inferior teams in a fall scrimmage. Both games were not close. I think they were each about 17-7.

Attack started both games with 2,28 and 52. 9 got worked in with the starters. 28 looked good. I still feel like the other two spots are open and they haven’t figured out who yet

Mids started with 7,40 and 44. I feel like they are still trying to find that third mid. The second line was 22,26 and 31. Not sure what happened to 13. He got a few runs early in each game. But seemed to get most of his time later in the game.

25 and 32 took most of the faceoffs and both had a hard time with SMCM, but did well in the second game.

Goalies looked good. Each of the 4 played about 1/2 of a game. All looked good. All made some good saves.

Goals were spread out pretty good. Without seeing the stat sheet, I would guess that 28 lead all scoring. 40 and 44 each scored at least 3 times. I think 2 had multiple goals also

My prediction for this team is to be similar to the last few years. Good enough to get into the top 10, but would have a hard time against the power 4. I expect York to win the MAC. Have a hard time with RIT and SU. Gettysburg , W&L, Dickinson could go either way.
Thanks for the synopsis. Did you happen to see who started at close D and LSM?
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In a scrimmage, let me briefly portray,
The York team's prospects as they play,
Against lesser foes, they took the field,
In games not close, their fate was sealed.

Attack began with numbers, two and eight,
And fifty-two, a formidable trait,
With nine joining in, a potent mix,
But the other spots, a puzzle to fix.

Midfielders in seven, forty, and forty-four,
Seeking a third, a role to explore,
The second line, twenty-two, twenty-six, and thirty-one,
Number thirteen, his time later won.

Faceoffs were a battle, tough and tight,
With twenty-five and thirty-two's might,
Struggled with SMCM, but then arose,
In the second game, where promise shows.

The goalies stood strong, a steadfast wall,
In each half of the game, they gave their all,
Making saves, ensuring their team's fate,
With their skills, the opponent's goals they'd negate.

Goals, like stars, were scattered bright,
Though stats unseen, we sense the light,
Twenty-eight, the leader, on the scoring chart,
While forty and forty-four played a significant part.

Predicting their path, like gazing through years,
York's destiny, we surmise, with cheers,
In the top ten, their prowess will thrive,
Yet against the power four, they may strive.

York to win the MAC, a goal so grand,
But with RIT and SU, they'll face a tough stand,
Gettysburg, W&L, and Dickinson's sway,
In those contests, outcomes sway and play.
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Impressive passion on this thread, but it does beg the question:

xoxoxo
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TheRaven wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:19 pm In a scrimmage, let me briefly portray,
The York team's prospects as they play,
Against lesser foes, they took the field,
In games not close, their fate was sealed.

Attack began with numbers, two and eight,
And fifty-two, a formidable trait,
With nine joining in, a potent mix,
But the other spots, a puzzle to fix.

Midfielders in seven, forty, and forty-four,
Seeking a third, a role to explore,
The second line, twenty-two, twenty-six, and thirty-one,
Number thirteen, his time later won.

Faceoffs were a battle, tough and tight,
With twenty-five and thirty-two's might,
Struggled with SMCM, but then arose,
In the second game, where promise shows.

The goalies stood strong, a steadfast wall,
In each half of the game, they gave their all,
Making saves, ensuring their team's fate,
With their skills, the opponent's goals they'd negate.

Goals, like stars, were scattered bright,
Though stats unseen, we sense the light,
Twenty-eight, the leader, on the scoring chart,
While forty and forty-four played a significant part.

Predicting their path, like gazing through years,
York's destiny, we surmise, with cheers,
In the top ten, their prowess will thrive,
Yet against the power four, they may strive.

York to win the MAC, a goal so grand,
But with RIT and SU, they'll face a tough stand,
Gettysburg, W&L, and Dickinson's sway,
In those contests, outcomes sway and play.
Wow, someone is a natural lyricist or has a lot of free time on their hands, Hah. Either way, nicely done!
I thought the guys looked pretty good at the scrimmages. Talk about a beautiful facility, kudos to Under Armour. It's hard to tell too much from Fall lax so I'm not going to get to wrapped up on the details, but I saw some good things and some things that they'll be working on before the season starts as you would expect. It looked like a Defender got a leg or knee injury, so hopefully he's ok and it's nothing serious. Speaking of Defense (and a lot of time on their hands), there was a good write-up on the 2023 York Defense over on the "Expected Goals" thread. I'm not smart enough to know how to link to it, so I pasted it below.

Re: Expected Goals
Post by laxreference » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:37 am

This was originally published in the Sat Sep 30, 2023 edition of Expected Goals, my daily newsletter.

The York defense proved to be one of the strongest units in the country in 2023. Ranked 18th nationally, the team's defense consistently demonstrated its prowess, with statistics placing them in the 79th percentile for raw overall defensive efficiency. After adjusting for the strength of the opposing offenses, they soared into the 98th percentile, underscoring their exceptional defensive performance. Their most impressive skill, shooting percentage, was ranked at the very top of DIII, restricting their opponents to a shooting success rate of just 29.4%.

A careful analysis of their performance over the season reveals fascinating insights about the team's capacity to adapt. Their best four-game stretch occurred between March 15 and March 25, during which the team's adjusted defensive efficiency was 21%, placing them in the 94th percentile. Despite a small hiccup with a loss to Gettysburg, victories over Haverford, Stevens, and Washington & Lee highlighted the team's resilience and efficiency. However, between April 1 and April 12 the team experienced its most challenging defensive period. Wins were secured over Messiah, Mary Washington, and Alvernia, but a loss to Salisbury marked a dip to the 73rd percentile with an adjusted defensive efficiency of 26%. This disparity was largely linked to their opponents' shot-on-goal rate which was 90% in the worst stretch compared to 74% during the best.

An interesting way to look at York's performance is through the statistical thresholds that most impacted their win-loss record. The key metric here is turnover rate. When the opposing offense turned the ball over on fewer than 29% of their possessions, York found itself on the losing side, ending with a 2 - 3 record. However, when the opposing offense's turnover rate was higher than 29%, York was 12-0. This is a defense that thrived on pressure and chaos.

In terms of the segments within the shot clock, the York defense showcased their skill and efficiency across all segments of a possession. They were particularly strong at the start of possessions, allowing goals on just 8.9% of possessions that lasted less than 20 seconds. However, the team's performance dipped slightly as possessions extended, allowing goals on 29.2% of possessions that lasted between 40 and 59s. Nonetheless, they were still 3.0 percentage points above the average in these situations, indicating an impressive ability to maintain defensive pressure.

The York defense has demonstrated its effectiveness and tenacity throughout the 2023 season, with a sharp eye for creating turnovers, excellent shooting percentage, and a strong showing throughout different stretches of the season. Despite minor setbacks, the team has shown consistent strength, highlighting their ability to adapt and learn from their experiences. Though there are certain aspects to improve upon, the York defense has laid a strong foundation for their future performance.
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2024 schedule out. Lebanon Valley moved to MAC Freedom, so is off the schedule, putting conference games at 7 games vs 8 last year, so F&M is an added OOC. Ursinus off for RPI. Saint Lawrence and Dickinson at the Mustang instead of Amherst and F&M. Schedule looks strong as always.

https://ycpspartans.com/sports/mens-lac ... edule/2024
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First 5 games at home. Next 5 on the road.
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Congratulations to York transfer Ben Mayer, who secured the start at attack for Ohio State as they traveled to Chapel Hill to face UNC in the “Breschi Scholarship scrimmage.”
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DeepPocket wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 8:39 pm 2024 schedule out. Lebanon Valley moved to MAC Freedom, so is off the schedule, putting conference games at 7 games vs 8 last year, so F&M is an added OOC. Ursinus off for RPI. Saint Lawrence and Dickinson at the Mustang instead of Amherst and F&M. Schedule looks strong as always.

https://ycpspartans.com/sports/mens-lac ... edule/2024
another difficult schedule to get them ready.
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Quiet on the York board. No rumors? Where is the local dog walker with the insider practice scoop?
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Can Opener wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 5:04 pm Impressive passion on this thread, but it does beg the question:

xoxoxo
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