Recruiting

[Kleizaster]

Major Flip Alert..Meg Kenny from the 2024 class has flipped to Maryland from UNC. A rarity for sure but not surprising with UNC's ridiculous 2025 class. We were just talking about this not long ago. Could this open the flood gates? maybe..

With recruiting struggles looks like Cathy is taking the gloves off. and to be honest..why not. Have to do what's necessary to get momentum back on your side

[ultravisitor]

With recruiting struggles looks like Cathy is taking the gloves off.

What do you mean?

[Kleizaster]

With recruiting struggles looks like Cathy is taking the gloves off.

What do you mean?

Going after committed players. Something other coaches have done but Cathy isn't really known for that

[Relax77]

Major Flip Alert..Meg Kenny from the 2024 class has flipped to Maryland from UNC. A rarity for sure but not surprising with UNC's ridiculous 2025 class. We were just talking about this not long ago. Could this open the flood gates? maybe..

With recruiting struggles looks like Cathy is taking the gloves off. and to be honest..why not. Have to do what's necessary to get momentum back on your side

Not sure if it will happen often with the high school seniors but most definitely happening after freshman year. Also guessing half unc’s 2025 will be leaving by junior year. Those kids want to play.

[jff97]

With recruiting struggles looks like Cathy is taking the gloves off.

What do you mean?

Going after committed players. Something other coaches have done but Cathy isn't really known for that

I know she flipped Lipkin from Stanford a few years ago but Stanford's process is so different from other schools that it's hard to read too much into that. MD's 2024 class isn't looking so bad now with three five star players.

[Relax77]

With recruiting struggles looks like Cathy is taking the gloves off.

What do you mean?

Going after committed players. Something other coaches have done but Cathy isn't really known for that

I know she flipped Lipkin from Stanford a few years ago but Stanford's process is so different from other schools that it's hard to read too much into that. MD's 2024 class isn't looking so bad now with three five star players.

This is a perfect example about rumors and forums where everything isn’t always what it seems. She didn’t flip Lipkin from Stanford. It became clear she wasn’t going to make it into Stanford and was told that. That’s why she decommited and went to Maryland. Remember when these kids are committing verbally to schools they are committing to the “admission process.”
And no way was this a knock. It’s just a good example that we all do it but unless you are there, you may not have the whole story.

[hmmm]

With recruiting struggles looks like Cathy is taking the gloves off.

What do you mean?

Going after committed players. Something other coaches have done but Cathy isn't really known for that

I know she flipped Lipkin from Stanford a few years ago but Stanford's process is so different from other schools that it's hard to read too much into that. MD's 2024 class isn't looking so bad now with three five star players.

This is a perfect example about rumors and forums where everything isn’t always what it seems. She didn’t flip Lipkin from Stanford. It became clear she wasn’t going to make it into Stanford and was told that. That’s why she decommited and went to Maryland. Remember when these kids are committing verbally to schools they are committing to the “admission process.”

Correct. That was not a flip.

[watcherinthewoods]

With recruiting struggles looks like Cathy is taking the gloves off.

What do you mean?

Going after committed players. Something other coaches have done but Cathy isn't really known for that

I know she flipped Lipkin from Stanford a few years ago but Stanford's process is so different from other schools that it's hard to read too much into that. MD's 2024 class isn't looking so bad now with three five star players.

This is a perfect example about rumors and forums where everything isn’t always what it seems. She didn’t flip Lipkin from Stanford. It became clear she wasn’t going to make it into Stanford and was told that. That’s why she decommited and went to Maryland. Remember when these kids are committing verbally to schools they are committing to the “admission process.”

Correct. That was not a flip.

I can report that my daughter's coach (prior to the current recruiting rules) told her class "when they call you, you call me." This was fall of junior year in HS. She committed fall of sophomore year. So, this is a known practice. Not entirely honorable, but not entirely surprising either.

And Stanford under Bokker did drop a player from my daughter's class/club due to academics. She went on to a terrific career in the Patriot League.

[jff97]

With recruiting struggles looks like Cathy is taking the gloves off.

What do you mean?

Going after committed players. Something other coaches have done but Cathy isn't really known for that

I know she flipped Lipkin from Stanford a few years ago but Stanford's process is so different from other schools that it's hard to read too much into that. MD's 2024 class isn't looking so bad now with three five star players.

This is a perfect example about rumors and forums where everything isn’t always what it seems. She didn’t flip Lipkin from Stanford. It became clear she wasn’t going to make it into Stanford and was told that. That’s why she decommited and went to Maryland. Remember when these kids are committing verbally to schools they are committing to the “admission process.”
And no way was this a knock. It’s just a good example that we all do it but unless you are there, you may not have the whole story.

I put the caveat about Stanford in for a reason. I remember when it happened thinking something along those lines. Just remember that was another time MD picked up a top level recruit late in the process for a class.

[Relax77]

[301Hayes]

Came across this article today, interesting on the topic of recruiting in non hotbed areas. Is that really necessary for girls to have to fly cross country to Maryland to be part of the scene? Seems like a lot but we are new to this. Wondering if girls who aren’t in the northeast really have to do all this:

https://www.toddburnham.com/lacrosse-br ... -colorado/

[LaxDadMax]

Came across this article today, interesting on the topic of recruiting in non hotbed areas. Is that really necessary for girls to have to fly cross country to Maryland to be part of the scene? Seems like a lot but we are new to this. Wondering if girls who aren’t in the northeast really have to do all this:

https://www.toddburnham.com/lacrosse-br ... -colorado/

So many thoughts about this story..

1) Some girls from out of state often play on top teams in Maryland and Long Island. In fact, one Long Island team actively recruits the best players from the midwest

2) HOWEVER, Doing this as a 6th and 7th grader is insane. M&D's roster will turn over many times before recruiting starts. I've never heard of this happening at middle school unless there was already a connection with the club. e.g. The best 2028 in the country plays for Yellow Jackets, but her older sister played there before going to Maryland. Also, she doesn't fly to LI to practice.

3) Most importantly, Colorado is turning into a hotbed. They have one of the best club teams in the Country -- Team 180 is one of the top club teams in the country and routinely sends almost its entire team D1 every level and last year had 2 of the top 8 or 9 players in the country; Urban Elite which is a top 20 club at the 2029 age level, and 3D Colorado which won mid-atlantic for the 28 age group last summer.

This is likely an issue of parents trying to live out some dream, rather than being doing for pure lax development.

[LaxNJ71]

Came across this article today, interesting on the topic of recruiting in non hotbed areas. Is that really necessary for girls to have to fly cross country to Maryland to be part of the scene? Seems like a lot but we are new to this. Wondering if girls who aren’t in the northeast really have to do all this:

https://www.toddburnham.com/lacrosse-br ... -colorado/

So many thoughts about this story..

1) Some girls from out of state often play on top teams in Maryland and Long Island. In fact, one Long Island team actively recruits the best players from the midwest

2) HOWEVER, Doing this as a 6th and 7th grader is insane. M&D's roster will turn over many times before recruiting starts. I've never heard of this happening at middle school unless there was already a connection with the club. e.g. The best 2028 in the country plays for Yellow Jackets, but her older sister played there before going to Maryland. Also, she doesn't fly to LI to practice.

3) Most importantly, Colorado is turning into a hotbed. They have one of the best club teams in the Country -- Team 180 is one of the top club teams in the country and routinely sends almost its entire team D1 every level and last year had 2 of the top 8 or 9 players in the country; Urban Elite which is a top 20 club at the 2029 age level, and 3D Colorado which won mid-atlantic for the 28 age group last summer.

This is likely an issue of parents trying to live out some dream, rather than being doing for pure lax development.

Sounds about right. A quick look at recent Colorado commits shows girls at UNC, Florida, northwestern, Denver, Michigan, note Dame and about 20 other impressive schools (athletic and academic) - don’t think all those girls were flying across the country every other weekend. It’s not my business if someone wants to do spend their time and money doing that but this article seems to be saying the current system is broken and needs some new solution, but the recent history isn’t really bearing that out. Creates a sense of panic and fomo which is already pervasive in recruiting.

[Relax77]

Came across this article today, interesting on the topic of recruiting in non hotbed areas. Is that really necessary for girls to have to fly cross country to Maryland to be part of the scene? Seems like a lot but we are new to this. Wondering if girls who aren’t in the northeast really have to do all this:

https://www.toddburnham.com/lacrosse-br ... -colorado/

So many thoughts about this story..

1) Some girls from out of state often play on top teams in Maryland and Long Island. In fact, one Long Island team actively recruits the best players from the midwest

2) HOWEVER, Doing this as a 6th and 7th grader is insane. M&D's roster will turn over many times before recruiting starts. I've never heard of this happening at middle school unless there was already a connection with the club. e.g. The best 2028 in the country plays for Yellow Jackets, but her older sister played there before going to Maryland. Also, she doesn't fly to LI to practice.

3) Most importantly, Colorado is turning into a hotbed. They have one of the best club teams in the Country -- Team 180 is one of the top club teams in the country and routinely sends almost its entire team D1 every level and last year had 2 of the top 8 or 9 players in the country; Urban Elite which is a top 20 club at the 2029 age level, and 3D Colorado which won mid-atlantic for the 28 age group last summer.

This is likely an issue of parents trying to live out some dream, rather than being doing for pure lax development.

Sounds about right. A quick look at recent Colorado commits shows girls at UNC, Florida, northwestern, Denver, Michigan, note Dame and about 20 other impressive schools (athletic and academic) - don’t think all those girls were flying across the country every other weekend. It’s not my business if someone wants to do spend their time and money doing that but this article seems to be saying the current system is broken and needs some new solution, but the recent history isn’t really bearing that out. Creates a sense of panic and fomo which is already pervasive in recruiting.

180 was at every tournament my daughter was at. Most do fly back and forth. Huge commitment by the parents that seemed to pay off. Some of them actually rent places in MD for two weeks at a time depending on schedule. Also their ranking isn’t legit. They are ranked in the 40s but that’s because one tournament they got the snot kicked out of them and lost three or the four games by over 10 killing their GD.

[LaxNJ71]

Came across this article today, interesting on the topic of recruiting in non hotbed areas. Is that really necessary for girls to have to fly cross country to Maryland to be part of the scene? Seems like a lot but we are new to this. Wondering if girls who aren’t in the northeast really have to do all this:

https://www.toddburnham.com/lacrosse-br ... -colorado/

So many thoughts about this story..

1) Some girls from out of state often play on top teams in Maryland and Long Island. In fact, one Long Island team actively recruits the best players from the midwest

2) HOWEVER, Doing this as a 6th and 7th grader is insane. M&D's roster will turn over many times before recruiting starts. I've never heard of this happening at middle school unless there was already a connection with the club. e.g. The best 2028 in the country plays for Yellow Jackets, but her older sister played there before going to Maryland. Also, she doesn't fly to LI to practice.

3) Most importantly, Colorado is turning into a hotbed. They have one of the best club teams in the Country -- Team 180 is one of the top club teams in the country and routinely sends almost its entire team D1 every level and last year had 2 of the top 8 or 9 players in the country; Urban Elite which is a top 20 club at the 2029 age level, and 3D Colorado which won mid-atlantic for the 28 age group last summer.

This is likely an issue of parents trying to live out some dream, rather than being doing for pure lax development.

Sounds about right. A quick look at recent Colorado commits shows girls at UNC, Florida, northwestern, Denver, Michigan, note Dame and about 20 other impressive schools (athletic and academic) - don’t think all those girls were flying across the country every other weekend. It’s not my business if someone wants to do spend their time and money doing that but this article seems to be saying the current system is broken and needs some new solution, but the recent history isn’t really bearing that out. Creates a sense of panic and fomo which is already pervasive in recruiting.

180 was at every tournament my daughter was at. Most do fly back and forth. Huge commitment by the parents that seemed to pay off. Some of them actually rent places in MD for two weeks at a time depending on schedule. Also their ranking isn’t legit. They are ranked in the 40s but that’s because one tournament they got the snot kicked out of them and lost three or the four games by over 10 killing their GD.

I’m not talking about flying back and forth for tournaments. I mean Colorado kids playing for M&D and flying back and forth for practices.

[LaxDadMax]

Came across this article today, interesting on the topic of recruiting in non hotbed areas. Is that really necessary for girls to have to fly cross country to Maryland to be part of the scene? Seems like a lot but we are new to this. Wondering if girls who aren’t in the northeast really have to do all this:

https://www.toddburnham.com/lacrosse-br ... -colorado/

So many thoughts about this story..

1) Some girls from out of state often play on top teams in Maryland and Long Island. In fact, one Long Island team actively recruits the best players from the midwest

2) HOWEVER, Doing this as a 6th and 7th grader is insane. M&D's roster will turn over many times before recruiting starts. I've never heard of this happening at middle school unless there was already a connection with the club. e.g. The best 2028 in the country plays for Yellow Jackets, but her older sister played there before going to Maryland. Also, she doesn't fly to LI to practice.

3) Most importantly, Colorado is turning into a hotbed. They have one of the best club teams in the Country -- Team 180 is one of the top club teams in the country and routinely sends almost its entire team D1 every level and last year had 2 of the top 8 or 9 players in the country; Urban Elite which is a top 20 club at the 2029 age level, and 3D Colorado which won mid-atlantic for the 28 age group last summer.

This is likely an issue of parents trying to live out some dream, rather than being doing for pure lax development.

Sounds about right. A quick look at recent Colorado commits shows girls at UNC, Florida, northwestern, Denver, Michigan, note Dame and about 20 other impressive schools (athletic and academic) - don’t think all those girls were flying across the country every other weekend. It’s not my business if someone wants to do spend their time and money doing that but this article seems to be saying the current system is broken and needs some new solution, but the recent history isn’t really bearing that out. Creates a sense of panic and fomo which is already pervasive in recruiting.

Traveling cross country 2x a month for a practice is insane. My nieces play for the top club in the midwest. They practice 2x per week with their club and travel a ton. They are on the east coast all 3 november weekend and 3-4 times over the summer. When they get recruiting age some families move out there for a few weeks in late June to hit the big tourneys (Lax For the Cure, Genesis, etc) on the weekends and prospet days/ big showcases (Best in Class, Under Armour 150). Parents say this actually saves them a bunch of $$ on travel

[laxfan9999]

Another flipped 2024- Susan Lowther from Ohio State to Clemson.

[DMac]

Kayla adds a Defender in the ‘25 Class Nina Autry.. her dad looks familiar.....he's the new hoops coach who took over for Boeheim.
Think Kayla had a little advantage with this one. Hopefully it's a win, win.

[Brownlax]

Just got off the phone with a college coach - I won't say what school it was. She called one of my players on September 1st and told her she was one of their top recruits and set up a campus visit for her. My kid had a great visit and loved the schools and the players. My player followed up immediately after the visit to thank the coach. Coach replied back asking her if she thought she needed to go on the rest of her visits or did she want to take the next step. We told the coach that she was going to go on a few of the visits but since they were one of her top choices we would like to take the next step. On the next phone call the coach told my player that they were not ready to make the next step right now and that she could be evaluating her over the November tournaments. Just can't believe a coach would string a kid along like this.

[Laxfan212]

Just got off the phone with a college coach - I won't say what school it was. She called one of my players on September 1st and told her she was one of their top recruits and set up a campus visit for her. My kid had a great visit and loved the schools and the players. My player followed up immediately after the visit to thank the coach. Coach replied back asking her if she thought she needed to go on the rest of her visits or did she want to take the next step. We told the coach that she was going to go on a few of the visits but since they were one of her top choices we would like to take the next step. On the next phone call the coach told my player that they were not ready to make the next step right now and that she could be evaluating her over the November tournaments. Just can't believe a coach would string a kid along like this.

I’m confused. It sounds like after the visit, they were asking her if she was ready to commit (take the next step), or did she want to go on other visits. And she replied that she wanted to go on other visits but also wanted to commit? Wasn’t it an either/or? If she told them she wanted to go on her other visits, wasn’t she saying she isn’t ready to commit to them? Or was “next steps” something other than commitment?