But she’s always talkin’ ‘bout Jesus??
https://www.ky3.com/2023/09/30/arkansas ... ntent=kytv
Sanders apparently used $19,000 in taxpayer funds to pay for friends/lobbyists to travel to France and rather than coming out with the truth, she had the Arkansas GOP pay for a non-existent podium, then was forced to buy a real podium on Amazon to trot out for journalists.
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All the good looking women are in the GOP per MGT’s bf.
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Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
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Who is MGT...or do you mean MTG?
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Certainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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Well, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:38 amCertainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.
I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.
The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.
While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.
So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...
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Agreed YA, about Gaetz types running around emboldened.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:59 amWell, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:38 amCertainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.
I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.
The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.
While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.
So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...
If Gaetz has four or five other people who will not support McCarthy/who will vote for McCarthy's ouster, that appears to be enough to cripple the Speaker's chair, unless McCarthy gets five or six or more Democrats and can cajole the rest of HIS caucus to support him. Sh*tshow anyone?
Another question: what is Gaetz's "plan" -- other than creating a televised sh*tshow, and crippling the House?
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small dollar donationsSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:33 pmAgreed YA, about Gaetz types running around emboldened.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:59 amWell, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:38 amCertainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.
I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.
The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.
While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.
So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...
If Gaetz has four or five other people who will not support McCarthy/who will vote for McCarthy's ouster, that appears to be enough to cripple the Speaker's chair, unless McCarthy gets five or six or more Democrats and can cajole the rest of HIS caucus to support him. Sh*tshow anyone?
Another question: what is Gaetz's "plan" -- other than creating a televised sh*tshow, and crippling the House?
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With Matt Gaetz looking like even more of a drooling pos.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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You may mean this tongue in cheek, but I think this may be the size of it.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:41 pmsmall dollar donationsSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:33 pmAgreed YA, about Gaetz types running around emboldened.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:59 amWell, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:38 amCertainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.
I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.
The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.
While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.
So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...
If Gaetz has four or five other people who will not support McCarthy/who will vote for McCarthy's ouster, that appears to be enough to cripple the Speaker's chair, unless McCarthy gets five or six or more Democrats and can cajole the rest of HIS caucus to support him. Sh*tshow anyone?
Another question: what is Gaetz's "plan" -- other than creating a televised sh*tshow, and crippling the House?
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Frankly, I think this is what Gaetz (and other most extreme a-holes) cares about most, whatever gets him clicks and views and thus donations. Serious donors won't support him, but thousands and thousands of small donors will...because it gives them a thrill to see a (fascist/nihilist) 'fighting for them'.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:01 pmYou may mean this tongue in cheek, but I think this may be the size of it.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:41 pmsmall dollar donationsSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:33 pmAgreed YA, about Gaetz types running around emboldened.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:59 amWell, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:38 amCertainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.
I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.
The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.
While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.
So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...
If Gaetz has four or five other people who will not support McCarthy/who will vote for McCarthy's ouster, that appears to be enough to cripple the Speaker's chair, unless McCarthy gets five or six or more Democrats and can cajole the rest of HIS caucus to support him. Sh*tshow anyone?
Another question: what is Gaetz's "plan" -- other than creating a televised sh*tshow, and crippling the House?
Could be about personal self-aggrandizement as well, the mini-me of Trumpian narcissism.
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Theyre just going to vote “present” and let Gaetz piss his pants.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:59 amWell, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:38 amCertainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.
I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.
The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.
While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.
So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...
There’s no upside to helping him blow McCarthy out. Skeletons exist everywhere so no point in opening doors when you know what you’ve got with the Squirrel from the sticks of Cali.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Dem Leadership is sending strong signal, no help for McCarthy...that could be a first salvo given that McCarthy had already said he wouldn't work for Dem support, wouldn't make any agreements...what gets done behind closed doors may be different.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:10 pmTheyre just going to vote “present” and let Gaetz tick his pants.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:59 amWell, unless the moderates in the House GOP make common cause with the moderate Dems, it's gonna be a sh-tshow for quite awhile, which is what the extremists actually want.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:38 amCertainly going to be exciting.....McCarthy may become close friends with the democrats if it comes down to a vote, which means, you will now own all his moves . Possible Gaetz is bluffing on having the votes. But if you recall, McCarthy did not earn the spot easily.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
And at the same time, we don't need any more Gaetz types running around that are now emboldened.
I think they'll be able to successfully block McCarthy's election unless the Dems help. Too many extremists, too slim a majority.
The rational moderate/conservative GOP knows that the sh-tshow will be blamed on the GOP and they'll be both primaried and will lose the House badly in 2024. Big rock and a hard place for them.
While the Dems can deal with McCarthy and still get things eventually done, they can't trust any promises he might make. Devil you know conundrum.
So, deals will get made but need to be locked down...and yeah, the most eager progressives will try and squeeze too hard...
There’s no upside to helping him blow McCarthy out. Skeletons exist everywhere so no point in opening doors when you know what you’ve got with the Squirrel from the sticks of Cali.
But my hunch is that any deal will get made with someone else... I don't think there's anyone who can actually hold moderate GOP with the extremes. And ultimately the moderates understand that a sh-tshow, closed government, abandonment of Ukraine, and nonsensical social plays will result in massive losses in 2024.
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Putz.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:44 pmWith Matt Gaetz looking like even more of a drooling pos.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
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He has been forced to speak from the Democratic side of the chamber because his fellow Republicans have banned him from using their side of the aisle. NutsMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:42 pmPutz.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:44 pmWith Matt Gaetz looking like even more of a drooling pos.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
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Flamer; was pretty interesting listening to conservative pragmatists argue with extremists.Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:53 pmHe has been forced to speak from the Democratic side of the chamber because his fellow Republicans have banned him from using their side of the aisle. NutsMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:42 pmPutz.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:44 pmWith Matt Gaetz looking like even more of a drooling pos.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
Got pretty darn heated.
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Here we go...https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.htmlSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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What else to expect from the ASSHAT caucus? This is all performative devoid of all substance or conviction.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:24 pmHere we go...https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.htmlSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
Two of the BIGGEST weasels (after McCarthy of course) are Buck and Mace who spend most of their time grooming themselves on TV.
In addition, to being dimwits.
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youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:24 pmHere we go...https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.htmlSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
From Twitter:
So the GOP just sh*tcanned their own Speaker after bringing the country to the brink of a government shutdown, while their presidential frontrunner is in court for fraud and getting gagged by the judge for defaming the clerk.
I guess the big question then is: what about Joe Biden’s age?
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Self-groomers…Kismet wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:37 pmWhat else to expect from the ASSHAT caucus? This is all performative devoid of all substance or conviction.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:24 pmHere we go...https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.htmlSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:04 am Question: how do you think this Speaker fight resolves?
Two of the BIGGEST weasels (after McCarthy of course) are Buck and Mace who spend most of their time grooming themselves on TV.
In addition, to being dimwits.
Don’t they know it’ll make ‘em blind?
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