Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

[Typical Lax Dad]

Double standards.

Representative Greg Cesar (D-TX) asked the members of the Oversight Committee to raise their hands if they believe that both Hunter and Trump should be held accountable if they are found guilty on any of their indictments. The Democrats all raised their hands. The Republicans did not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh2qBqJN04c

r's just want to make their mindless voters numb to facts.

Old Salt didn’t either.

[Kismet]

Yawn. From the sworn Congressional testimony of the lead investigating IRS Supervisoey Agent.

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administra ... mber-2019/
Whistleblower Says FBI Verified Authenticity of Hunter Biden Laptop in November 2019
June 22, 2023

The FBI authenticated Hunter Biden’s laptop as far back as November 2019, according to testimony from an IRS whistleblower released on Thursday, and knew the device was not part of a foreign disinformation campaign.

The Bureau learned of the laptop in October 2019, the whistleblower, IRS supervisory agent Gary Shapley said, and just one month later verified its authenticity. The IRS was notified about the laptop in December 2019 and told that "it likely contained evidence of a tax crime," the whistleblower said.

Shapley's stunning claims raise important questions about the Department of Justice’s conduct over the last several years.

FBI director Christopher Wray refused as recently as March to verify that the contents of Hunter Biden’s hard drive were not part of a foreign disinformation campaign. Numerous outside investigators and newsrooms, including the Washington Free Beacon, have concluded that Hunter Biden’s hard drive is authentic since its existence was made public by the New York Post in October 2020.

One week after the New York Post's initial report more than 50 former senior intelligence officials signed a letter alleging that it "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Signatories of that letter included former Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper, as well as former CIA directors Leon Panetta and John Brennan. That letter was later cited in an Oct. 22 presidential debate by Joe Biden, who said the release of the laptop was part of a "Russian plan." Since he took office, Biden’s White House has insinuated that the laptop was part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

"I think it’s broadly known and widely known…that there was a broad range of Russian disinformation back in 2020," former White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in Sept. 2021.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in August 2022 that the FBI briefed Facebook ahead of the 2020 presidential election about "Russian propaganda" and said his platform should be on "high alert." Zuckerberg said that meeting, which the FBI confirmed took place, was the rationale behind his company censoring all news stories that mentioned the laptop’s contents.

Shapley says the tax agency recommended felony charges against Hunter Biden and that the federal prosecutor handling the probe of the first son was prevented on multiple occasions from filing charges.

Federal prosecutors knew that no content on the Hunter Biden hard drive was fabricated prior to the 2020 election, according to a memo Shapley prepared on Oct. 22, 2020 and provided to the House Ways and Means Committee. Content on the hard drive were exact matches to files authorities had obtained from a search warrant of Hunter Biden’s iCloud account, the memo states.

"We have no reason to believe there is anything fabricated nefariously on the computer and or hard drive," the memo states. "There are emails and other items that corroborate the items on the laptop and hard drive."

Authorities also knew the New York Post explanation that Hunter Biden dropped his laptop off at a Delaware computer repair shop in April 2019 and then neglected to pick it back up, was accurate, Shapley said.
Investigators had obtained financial records and "other intelligence" showing Hunter Biden was in the vicinity of the computer repair shop the same day he dropped his computer off for repair.

"Financial records show [Hunter Biden] was around Wilmington DE shop at a cigar shop on the same day," the memo states.

The FBI determined the device was Hunter Biden’s by comparing its device number to Hunter Biden’s iCloud account.

""The FBI case agent, Josh Wilson, called up the computer shop owner, John Paul, and basically got the device numbers from him," Shapley said, according to an interview transcript released by the House Ways and Means Committee. "And then we bounced those device numbers off third-party records, and it showed that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's device. So it was a very first important step."

I have not seen you worked up about Donald’s crimes….

He's waiting for more facts to come out on his favorite candidate Orange Fatso.
Nice to see he's changed the propaganda channels to the very credible and unbiased Free Beacon (you know the folks who gave us serial disingenuous hidden video editor and convicted felon, James O'Keefe)

[MDlaxfan76]

Yawn. From the sworn Congressional testimony of the lead investigating IRS Supervisoey Agent.

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administra ... mber-2019/
Whistleblower Says FBI Verified Authenticity of Hunter Biden Laptop in November 2019
June 22, 2023

The FBI authenticated Hunter Biden’s laptop as far back as November 2019, according to testimony from an IRS whistleblower released on Thursday, and knew the device was not part of a foreign disinformation campaign.

The Bureau learned of the laptop in October 2019, the whistleblower, IRS supervisory agent Gary Shapley said, and just one month later verified its authenticity. The IRS was notified about the laptop in December 2019 and told that "it likely contained evidence of a tax crime," the whistleblower said.

Shapley's stunning claims raise important questions about the Department of Justice’s conduct over the last several years.

FBI director Christopher Wray refused as recently as March to verify that the contents of Hunter Biden’s hard drive were not part of a foreign disinformation campaign. Numerous outside investigators and newsrooms, including the Washington Free Beacon, have concluded that Hunter Biden’s hard drive is authentic since its existence was made public by the New York Post in October 2020.

One week after the New York Post's initial report more than 50 former senior intelligence officials signed a letter alleging that it "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Signatories of that letter included former Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper, as well as former CIA directors Leon Panetta and John Brennan. That letter was later cited in an Oct. 22 presidential debate by Joe Biden, who said the release of the laptop was part of a "Russian plan." Since he took office, Biden’s White House has insinuated that the laptop was part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

"I think it’s broadly known and widely known…that there was a broad range of Russian disinformation back in 2020," former White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in Sept. 2021.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in August 2022 that the FBI briefed Facebook ahead of the 2020 presidential election about "Russian propaganda" and said his platform should be on "high alert." Zuckerberg said that meeting, which the FBI confirmed took place, was the rationale behind his company censoring all news stories that mentioned the laptop’s contents.

Shapley says the tax agency recommended felony charges against Hunter Biden and that the federal prosecutor handling the probe of the first son was prevented on multiple occasions from filing charges.

Federal prosecutors knew that no content on the Hunter Biden hard drive was fabricated prior to the 2020 election, according to a memo Shapley prepared on Oct. 22, 2020 and provided to the House Ways and Means Committee. Content on the hard drive were exact matches to files authorities had obtained from a search warrant of Hunter Biden’s iCloud account, the memo states.

"We have no reason to believe there is anything fabricated nefariously on the computer and or hard drive," the memo states. "There are emails and other items that corroborate the items on the laptop and hard drive."

Authorities also knew the New York Post explanation that Hunter Biden dropped his laptop off at a Delaware computer repair shop in April 2019 and then neglected to pick it back up, was accurate, Shapley said.
Investigators had obtained financial records and "other intelligence" showing Hunter Biden was in the vicinity of the computer repair shop the same day he dropped his computer off for repair.

"Financial records show [Hunter Biden] was around Wilmington DE shop at a cigar shop on the same day," the memo states.

The FBI determined the device was Hunter Biden’s by comparing its device number to Hunter Biden’s iCloud account.

""The FBI case agent, Josh Wilson, called up the computer shop owner, John Paul, and basically got the device numbers from him," Shapley said, according to an interview transcript released by the House Ways and Means Committee. "And then we bounced those device numbers off third-party records, and it showed that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's device. So it was a very first important step."

I have not seen you worked up about Donald’s crimes….

He's waiting for more facts to come out on his favorite candidate Orange Fatso.
Nice to see he's changed the propaganda channels to the very credible and unbiased Free Beacon (you know the folks who gave us serial disingenuous hidden video editor and convicted felon, James O'Keefe)

The guy who didn't investigate the ownership of the laptop and whether it had been tampered with is who the Free Beacon say "knows" the correct answer...

[cradleandshoot]

So what the game plan is for MD and all the usual FLP liberal Democrat suspects is to obfuscate and deflect and lie about whatever hunters laptop may or may not contain. Too many cooks in the kitchen spoiled the laptop broth. Got it!!!

[MDlaxfan76]

So what the game plan is for MD and all the usual FLP liberal Democrat suspects is to obfuscate and deflect and lie about whatever hunters laptop may or may not contain. Too many cooks in the kitchen spoiled the laptop broth. Got it!!!

Where do you get that, your hard right wing news feed?

So far, all the legal experts, including those called by the MAGA Committee, say there isn't evidence of any wrongdoing by Joe. Nothing worthy of impeachment...and that's the crew who would be most disposed to say so if otherwise.

Likewise, the Trump appointed prosecutor, after 5 years of investigation, has never suggested there's anything illegal done by Joe...and quite limited (so far) re Hunter. I think they might eventually indict Hunter under a failing to register as a foreign agent statute, but that's a huge stretch in this case as there was no secrecy about what Hunter was doing as a Bd member, etc. Not an unregistered lobbyist...but it's a plausible charge. But prosecutors tend to bring charges they can confidently prove in court.

And certainly it's possible that there will be tax charges.

Re the laptop, there's been all sorts of reporting of what's been found, indeed the purportedly most damning stuff has been shown publicly through various leaks by Guiliani, MTG, etc....and yet nothing that, even if the contents of the laptop could be used in court, would actually prove any illegal act by Joe. That's the simple reality.

And yeah, the laptop and its contents, unless confirmed by other means, can't be used in court due to the egregious handling of it by Guiliani. And he's a guy who definitely knows better. Anyone on here trust Guiliani any more?

[cradleandshoot]

So what the game plan is for MD and all the usual FLP liberal Democrat suspects is to obfuscate and deflect and lie about whatever hunters laptop may or may not contain. Too many cooks in the kitchen spoiled the laptop broth. Got it!!!

Where do you get that, your hard right wing news feed?

So far, all the legal experts, including those called by the MAGA Committee, say there isn't evidence of any wrongdoing by Joe. Nothing worthy of impeachment...and that's the crew who would be most disposed to say so if otherwise.

Likewise, the Trump appointed prosecutor, after 5 years of investigation, has never suggested there's anything illegal done by Joe...and quite limited (so far) re Hunter. I think they might eventually indict Hunter under a failing to register as a foreign agent statute, but that's a huge stretch in this case as there was no secrecy about what Hunter was doing as a Bd member, etc. Not an unregistered lobbyist...but it's a plausible charge. But prosecutors tend to bring charges they can confidently prove in court.

And certainly it's possible that there will be tax charges.

Re the laptop, there's been all sorts of reporting of what's been found, indeed the purportedly most damning stuff has been shown publicly through various leaks by Guiliani, MTG, etc....and yet nothing that, even if the contents of the laptop could be used in court, would actually prove any illegal act by Joe. That's the simple reality.

And yeah, the laptop and its contents, unless confirmed by other means, can't be used in court due to the egregious handling of it by Guiliani. And he's a guy who definitely knows better. Anyone on here trust Guiliani any more?

What hard right wing news feed is that chucklehead?? I have a cheap ass outdoor antenna that pulls stations from as far away as Batavia, Toronto and Niagara Falls. I'm missing out on the vast right wing conspiracy that has your liberal Democrat panties all in a knot. I prefer to think for myself and come to my own conclusions. If you paid attention to what I have posted a hundred times or more you should remember by now. I've been arguing these issues with my crazy left wing socialist sister while you were still putting a liplock on Richard Nixons ass. I have 50 years of this debate in the can already. Thanks for your advise but you would have better luck talking about this with my sister. Just don't mention the Nixon thing. Those crazy 1970s liberals still despise tricky dick.

[MDlaxfan76]

So what the game plan is for MD and all the usual FLP liberal Democrat suspects is to obfuscate and deflect and lie about whatever hunters laptop may or may not contain. Too many cooks in the kitchen spoiled the laptop broth. Got it!!!

Where do you get that, your hard right wing news feed?

So far, all the legal experts, including those called by the MAGA Committee, say there isn't evidence of any wrongdoing by Joe. Nothing worthy of impeachment...and that's the crew who would be most disposed to say so if otherwise.

Likewise, the Trump appointed prosecutor, after 5 years of investigation, has never suggested there's anything illegal done by Joe...and quite limited (so far) re Hunter. I think they might eventually indict Hunter under a failing to register as a foreign agent statute, but that's a huge stretch in this case as there was no secrecy about what Hunter was doing as a Bd member, etc. Not an unregistered lobbyist...but it's a plausible charge. But prosecutors tend to bring charges they can confidently prove in court.

And certainly it's possible that there will be tax charges.

Re the laptop, there's been all sorts of reporting of what's been found, indeed the purportedly most damning stuff has been shown publicly through various leaks by Guiliani, MTG, etc....and yet nothing that, even if the contents of the laptop could be used in court, would actually prove any illegal act by Joe. That's the simple reality.

And yeah, the laptop and its contents, unless confirmed by other means, can't be used in court due to the egregious handling of it by Guiliani. And he's a guy who definitely knows better. Anyone on here trust Guiliani any more?

What hard right wing news feed is that chucklehead?? I have a cheap ass outdoor antenna that pulls stations from as far away as Batavia, Toronto and Niagara Falls. I'm missing out on the vast right wing conspiracy that has your liberal Democrat panties all in a knot. I prefer to think for myself and come to my own conclusions. If you paid attention to what I have posted a hundred times or more you should remember by now. I've been arguing these issues with my crazy left wing socialist sister while you were still putting a liplock on Richard Nixons ass. I have 50 years of this debate in the can already. Thanks for your advise but you would have better luck talking about this with my sister. Just don't mention the Nixon thing. Those crazy 1970s liberals still despise tricky dick.

you've also shared with us your internet news feed, Cradle...you didn't understand how the algorithm was feeding you stuff that makes you mad, gets your reaction...so, more and more of the right wing stuff.

[cradleandshoot]

So what the game plan is for MD and all the usual FLP liberal Democrat suspects is to obfuscate and deflect and lie about whatever hunters laptop may or may not contain. Too many cooks in the kitchen spoiled the laptop broth. Got it!!!

Where do you get that, your hard right wing news feed?

So far, all the legal experts, including those called by the MAGA Committee, say there isn't evidence of any wrongdoing by Joe. Nothing worthy of impeachment...and that's the crew who would be most disposed to say so if otherwise.

Likewise, the Trump appointed prosecutor, after 5 years of investigation, has never suggested there's anything illegal done by Joe...and quite limited (so far) re Hunter. I think they might eventually indict Hunter under a failing to register as a foreign agent statute, but that's a huge stretch in this case as there was no secrecy about what Hunter was doing as a Bd member, etc. Not an unregistered lobbyist...but it's a plausible charge. But prosecutors tend to bring charges they can confidently prove in court.

And certainly it's possible that there will be tax charges.

Re the laptop, there's been all sorts of reporting of what's been found, indeed the purportedly most damning stuff has been shown publicly through various leaks by Guiliani, MTG, etc....and yet nothing that, even if the contents of the laptop could be used in court, would actually prove any illegal act by Joe. That's the simple reality.

And yeah, the laptop and its contents, unless confirmed by other means, can't be used in court due to the egregious handling of it by Guiliani. And he's a guy who definitely knows better. Anyone on here trust Guiliani any more?

What hard right wing news feed is that chucklehead?? I have a cheap ass outdoor antenna that pulls stations from as far away as Batavia, Toronto and Niagara Falls. I'm missing out on the vast right wing conspiracy that has your liberal Democrat panties all in a knot. I prefer to think for myself and come to my own conclusions. If you paid attention to what I have posted a hundred times or more you should remember by now. I've been arguing these issues with my crazy left wing socialist sister while you were still putting a liplock on Richard Nixons ass. I have 50 years of this debate in the can already. Thanks for your advise but you would have better luck talking about this with my sister. Just don't mention the Nixon thing. Those crazy 1970s liberals still despise tricky dick.

you've also shared with us your internet news feed, Cradle...you didn't understand how the algorithm was feeding you stuff that makes you mad, gets your reaction...so, more and more of the right wing stuff.

For crying out loud MD... the effing Newsbreak feed was already installed on my phone when I bought it. I didn't ask for it and I could live my life just fine without it. They ping my phone all day long with different stuff. None of it is particularly biased for one side or the other. I do usually look at the Drudge Report a couple times a day. Does that make me guilty of something as well? I have one truly positive going for me old sod. Richard Nixon was always a freaking scumbag. It took you quite awhile to finally figure that out.

[cradleandshoot]

NewsBreak feed just in on my phone...
Russ Francis former NFL player died in a plane crash in Upstate NY. According to MD that must be more right wing propaganda.

[cradleandshoot]

More right wing propaganda from NewsBreak...
AG Garland says he will resign if Biden asks him to take action on trump.

[MDlaxfan76]

So what the game plan is for MD and all the usual FLP liberal Democrat suspects is to obfuscate and deflect and lie about whatever hunters laptop may or may not contain. Too many cooks in the kitchen spoiled the laptop broth. Got it!!!

Where do you get that, your hard right wing news feed?

So far, all the legal experts, including those called by the MAGA Committee, say there isn't evidence of any wrongdoing by Joe. Nothing worthy of impeachment...and that's the crew who would be most disposed to say so if otherwise.

Likewise, the Trump appointed prosecutor, after 5 years of investigation, has never suggested there's anything illegal done by Joe...and quite limited (so far) re Hunter. I think they might eventually indict Hunter under a failing to register as a foreign agent statute, but that's a huge stretch in this case as there was no secrecy about what Hunter was doing as a Bd member, etc. Not an unregistered lobbyist...but it's a plausible charge. But prosecutors tend to bring charges they can confidently prove in court.

And certainly it's possible that there will be tax charges.

Re the laptop, there's been all sorts of reporting of what's been found, indeed the purportedly most damning stuff has been shown publicly through various leaks by Guiliani, MTG, etc....and yet nothing that, even if the contents of the laptop could be used in court, would actually prove any illegal act by Joe. That's the simple reality.

And yeah, the laptop and its contents, unless confirmed by other means, can't be used in court due to the egregious handling of it by Guiliani. And he's a guy who definitely knows better. Anyone on here trust Guiliani any more?

What hard right wing news feed is that chucklehead?? I have a cheap ass outdoor antenna that pulls stations from as far away as Batavia, Toronto and Niagara Falls. I'm missing out on the vast right wing conspiracy that has your liberal Democrat panties all in a knot. I prefer to think for myself and come to my own conclusions. If you paid attention to what I have posted a hundred times or more you should remember by now. I've been arguing these issues with my crazy left wing socialist sister while you were still putting a liplock on Richard Nixons ass. I have 50 years of this debate in the can already. Thanks for your advise but you would have better luck talking about this with my sister. Just don't mention the Nixon thing. Those crazy 1970s liberals still despise tricky dick.

you've also shared with us your internet news feed, Cradle...you didn't understand how the algorithm was feeding you stuff that makes you mad, gets your reaction...so, more and more of the right wing stuff.

For crying out loud MD... the effing Newsbreak feed was already installed on my phone when I bought it. I didn't ask for it and I could live my life just fine without it. They ping my phone all day long with different stuff. None of it is particularly biased for one side or the other. I do usually look at the Drudge Report a couple times a day. Does that make me guilty of something as well? I have one truly positive going for me old sod. Richard Nixon was always a freaking scumbag. It took you quite awhile to finally figure that out.

Yup, as a HS fall freshman I canvassed for Nixon...by the time I was a junior it was clear to me. But I bet I knew a heck of a lot more about government, politics and policy that you did at that age...I'll stand by my support of most of his social policies

And yeah, blame it on the phone and "effing Newsbreak"...not your reactions getting you more and more...

As for Drudge, yes, clicking there a lot is going get you more garbage. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/drudge-report/

[cradleandshoot]

Even more right wing propaganda from NewsBreak. The Russians are using some ancient plane called a BA 12 to combat Ukrainian drones. My phone just keeps on pinging with all this right wing propaganda. Until enlightened by MD lax I just considered these news headlines. How was I to know I was being brainwashed and manipulated??

[MDlaxfan76]

More right wing propaganda from NewsBreak...
AG Garland says he will resign if Biden asks him to take action on trump.

I guess someone watched 60 Minutes last night.

Garland was quite clear that Biden has Never asked him to take ANY action on ANY case (that would include re Hunter as well as re Trump) and that he would not expect that ever to happen nor would he follow such direction, and, if necessary, he would resign if asked.

It was actually quite an interview. Garland is very emotional when it comes to the importance of democracy and the rule of law, and if you watch it, you'll understand why that is.

But hey, your NewsBreak feed gave you that 'headline'...

[NattyBohChamps04]

NewsBreak feed just in on my phone...
Russ Francis former NFL player died in a plane crash in Upstate NY. According to MD that must be more right wing propaganda.

What was his vaccination status?

[cradleandshoot]

NewsBreak feed just in on my phone...
Russ Francis former NFL player died in a plane crash in Upstate NY. According to MD that must be more right wing propaganda.

What was his vaccination status?

Deceased....

[Farfromgeneva]

As I stated. This thread didn’t age well. It was started with the DNC worn out talking points that everything is Russian disinformation. That has been settled. The laptop is real. The Russians had nothing to do with it. Well. Maybe the Russians could be behind the thousands of dollars being deposited in Biden family bank accounts. But I don’t know that answer. And neither do you

You avoided his straightforward questions again.

Is this ignorance of the answers? try google.

Or is a tacit acceptance that the answers would embarrass your argument?

What is your point MD? This is the classic lose/lose scenario. No matter how the straightforward question been answered you would still whine and b***h and yelp like a puppy whose tail has been stepped on. Kudos to Jumbo...he didn't take your bait. That tells me alot right off the bat... he is a hell of a lot smarter than you are.

Jumbo knows the game & knows how to avoid the 'Vortex Zone'. If he hangs around long enough.....he'll get sucked in it.

+1 the score card is Jumbo 1, the other folks a big fat zero. Any time one of the FLP weeds on this forum whine about a poster not answering a " simple question" they are not interested in the answer. They are interested in trying to embarrass the person they resent. I applaud Jumbo again for knowing their little bullchit game and refusing to play. Bravo Jumbo bravo.

Just moronic what some think is analysis and understanding.

[Farfromgeneva]

Again, it wasn’t Hunter’s laptop. You guys just won’t give up on us. How come no one ever responds to my points about fingerprints, DNA, and Hunter being in California when the laptop was dropped off at the blind guy’s shop in Delaware?

Hunter was hacked, as a number of independent forensic experts have concluded. The majority of the data on the laptop cannot be traced to Hunter. Some can, which is the stuff the hacker uploaded and then downloaded onto the laptop they thought they could pass off as Hunter’s.

Do you have a cite?

The wiki article has a lot of citations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Bi ... ontroversy

At this point we don't have definitive info if it was his laptop or some laptop loaded with some of his hacked data. Blind shop keeper couldn't verify who dropped it off. No chain of custody. Both sides are being cagey. Probably trying to feel out the other side. Lots of weasel words saying some of the data is authentic, but nothing regading actual physical evidence the laptop is Hunter's. I'd like more than a verbal agreement and some signed document of a random ifixit place. Fingerprints, dna, video, GPS, etc? Doesn't seem to exist. Media likes to keep it muddied for obvious $$ reasons.

Seems like multiple Republican investigations have found nothing illegal because of the laptop, so it's been a nothingburger. The tax and gun stuff was outside of the laptop.

So yeah, in the end the laptop is compromised, unverifiable and nothing has come of it. But we know a portion of the data on it is Hunter's. Until we know more. Weird situation all around.

Then again, most everyone roasted the Duke lax kids for staying silent until the evidence came out. A few waited to crucify or exhonerate.

I sniffed out the Duke issue early. On that I can claim being on the right side and not because I tripped into it hoping for my preferred outcome.

[cradleandshoot]

More right wing propaganda from NewsBreak...
AG Garland says he will resign if Biden asks him to take action on trump.

I guess someone watched 60 Minutes last night.

Garland was quite clear that Biden has Never asked him to take ANY action on ANY case (that would include re Hunter as well as re Trump) and that he would not expect that ever to happen nor would he follow such direction, and, if necessary, he would resign if asked.

It was actually quite an interview. Garland is very emotional when it comes to the importance of democracy and the rule of law, and if you watch it, you'll understand why that is.

But hey, your NewsBreak feed gave you that 'headline'...

Why yes it did. Your slowly catching on there old sod. You have some amazing options. You can just read the headline or you click on and read the entire article. No need for me to read it. Everything I need to know about Garland you will certainly enlighten me about.

[Farfromgeneva]

What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

Well wait Dmac made some accusations to me because I didn’t respond to him when he demanded a response as I checked like a day or so later. You going to apply that broadly or just in isolation as deemed useful and fit for specific purposes?

mmm, just not being around to see a question is quite different from purposely avoiding answering a straight question because one doesn't like what the answer reveals about the logic of one's prior statements; in this case, the poster responded multiple times but avoided the direct questions...it's a darn discussion board for cripesakes and youth is claiming "authoritarian" and "cyber bullying" because someone is getting called out for avoiding an actual discussion after making some pretty trolling statements...

None of us on here are 100% right all the time! speaking personally, I want my views, my logic, my understanding of 'facts' to be challenged...and if I find I'm mistaken about something, all the better!

Yes, I understand. And when others say things like “obviously I’m right because you didn’t respond when I deemed it the time for you to respond” or “see hes wrong because I don’t have a response when I expect it” is actual authoritarian behavior. And stupid.

Asking for clarification in a discussion is different. Demand int when and where and style is authoritarian (and petty juvenile) stuff.

[old salt]

Again, it wasn’t Hunter’s laptop. You guys just won’t give up on us. How come no one ever responds to my points about fingerprints, DNA, and Hunter being in California when the laptop was dropped off at the blind guy’s shop in Delaware?

Hunter was hacked, as a number of independent forensic experts have concluded. The majority of the data on the laptop cannot be traced to Hunter. Some can, which is the stuff the hacker uploaded and then downloaded onto the laptop they thought they could pass off as Hunter’s.

Do you have a cite?

The wiki article has a lot of citations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Bi ... ontroversy

At this point we don't have definitive info if it was his laptop or some laptop loaded with some of his hacked data. Blind shop keeper couldn't verify who dropped it off. No chain of custody. Both sides are being cagey. Probably trying to feel out the other side. Lots of weasel words saying some of the data is authentic, but nothing regading actual physical evidence the laptop is Hunter's. I'd like more than a verbal agreement and some signed document of a random ifixit place. Fingerprints, dna, video, GPS, etc? Doesn't seem to exist. Media likes to keep it muddied for obvious $$ reasons.

Seems like multiple Republican investigations have found nothing illegal because of the laptop, so it's been a nothingburger. The tax and gun stuff was outside of the laptop.

So yeah, in the end the laptop is compromised, unverifiable and nothing has come of it. But we know a portion of the data on it is Hunter's. Until we know more. Weird situation all around.

Then again, most everyone roasted the Duke lax kids for staying silent until the evidence came out. A few waited to crucify or exhonerate.

I sniffed out the Duke issue early. On that I can claim being on the right side and not because I tripped into it hoping for my preferred outcome.

Confirmation bias.