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1766
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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Njlaxx11 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:59 am
BigTom5 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:09 pm
1766 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:53 pm
BigTom5 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:40 pm
1766 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:53 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:54 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:21 am
blue angels wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:41 pm
lorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:45 am
1766 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:28 pm Yet still beat more playoff teams than Army. Ouch!
Yeah was at a HS recruiting tournament yesterday a lot of talent Rutgers coach was there talking to some of the club coaches / college players hopefully they get one to transfer.
are you both about 13? There is absolutly NO WAY either one of you ever attended Rutgers or Army.
this is just what lorin does - comes in and talks. he might not even be a real person.
A few years ago it was Brecht not recruiting, or not successfully recruiting, NJ kids. In recent years the portal has provided a new line of attack.

I've often wondered how he got this burr under his saddle.
New Jersey kids can be fickle. However, the proverbial worm is turning. This class Coach Brecht was able to land what is the clear number 1 player in the state.
Is the worm really turning or were they only able to land a high-end NJ prospect because his dad was an alum and his brother is on the team. Seems like a one-off event brought about by strong family ties. If they truly were gaining momentum in the state, wouldn’t you see a stronger 2024 class of NJ recruits?
You mean his brother who was also highly recruited? Family ties are irrelevant in recruiting. Players make decisions on where they want to be, not where daddy went to school.
Irrelevant? If you think the Kirst brothers would have transferred to Rutgers without their family ties then you live in a fantasy world.

They may not be the biggest factor in recruiting, but they definitely are a factor.
out of the 12 coming in for the 23 class, 4 are from NJ - 33% is good for me.

kurdyla is highly rated and whether you want to say the only reason he chose rutgers was from family ties, then so be it. a 6'2", 190 lb midfielder probably has a plethora of schools to choose from. they have a 3 star from the pingry school and 2 other solid NJ lacrosse players coming in.
He chose Rutgers because that's where he wants to be. Just like his brother. Where their father went to school was irrelevant. There isn't a school in the country Colin Kurdyla couldn't have went to. He chose to go to Rutgers.

I could foresee a few more Jersey players each class but it won't be a lot. Coach Brecht has a recruiting strategy and part of that involves geography.
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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1766 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:53 pm
BigTom5 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:40 pm
1766 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 12:53 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:54 am
Njlaxx11 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 6:21 am
blue angels wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:41 pm
lorin wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:45 am
1766 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:28 pm Yet still beat more playoff teams than Army. Ouch!
Yeah was at a HS recruiting tournament yesterday a lot of talent Rutgers coach was there talking to some of the club coaches / college players hopefully they get one to transfer.
are you both about 13? There is absolutly NO WAY either one of you ever attended Rutgers or Army.
this is just what lorin does - comes in and talks. he might not even be a real person.
A few years ago it was Brecht not recruiting, or not successfully recruiting, NJ kids. In recent years the portal has provided a new line of attack.

I've often wondered how he got this burr under his saddle.
New Jersey kids can be fickle. However, the proverbial worm is turning. This class Coach Brecht was able to land what is the clear number 1 player in the state.
Is the worm really turning or were they only able to land a high-end NJ prospect because his dad was an alum and his brother is on the team. Seems like a one-off event brought about by strong family ties. If they truly were gaining momentum in the state, wouldn’t you see a stronger 2024 class of NJ recruits?
You mean his brother who was also highly recruited? Family ties are irrelevant in recruiting. Players make decisions on where they want to be, not where daddy went to school.

NJ recruiting as I said can and will get better. But it's better than it was. But that's sort of irrelevant to the overall mission of getting the best players possible. At the end of the day that's all that matters. Brecht will have more 4* recruits on his 23 team recruited from HS than he has ever had previously. The more they win the more they will continue to attract even more talent. It doesn't hurt that kids like the Kirst bros speak loudly about how much they loved their experience there.
Isn't the youngest Kirst brother a '24 commit?
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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He is. Considering the great experience two of his brother's had there, I'm not surprised.
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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Not sure the validity, but it’s out there:

https://twitter.com/ncm4ever/status/168 ... _jxZLgpS5g
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:33 pm Not sure the validity, but it’s out there:

https://twitter.com/ncm4ever/status/168 ... _jxZLgpS5g
Just want to see the storm you could create eh?

Can’t wait until Elon annexes DMXs catalogue. X gonna give it to ya!

https://youtu.be/fGx6K90TmCI
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:39 pm
Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:33 pm Not sure the validity, but it’s out there:

https://twitter.com/ncm4ever/status/168 ... _jxZLgpS5g
Just want to see the storm you could create eh?

Can’t wait until Elon annexes DMXs catalogue. X gonna give it to ya!

https://youtu.be/fGx6K90TmCI
Yeah, I didn’t create the storm… just thought it was relevant around Rutgers Lax.

No dog in this fight
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:18 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:39 pm
Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:33 pm Not sure the validity, but it’s out there:

https://twitter.com/ncm4ever/status/168 ... _jxZLgpS5g
Just want to see the storm you could create eh?

Can’t wait until Elon annexes DMXs catalogue. X gonna give it to ya!

https://youtu.be/fGx6K90TmCI
Yeah, I didn’t create the storm… just thought it was relevant around Rutgers Lax.

No dog in this fight
That came up 2 years ago and was covered in the NY/NJ/Pa press. I don't think it's applicable these days.
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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This is how it showed up on my feed…The Crabs Club chimed in: https://twitter.com/crabslacrosse/statu ... _jxZLgpS5g
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:47 pm This is how it showed up on my feed…The Crabs Club chimed in: https://twitter.com/crabslacrosse/statu ... _jxZLgpS5g
Amplification of something that may not even be true. And if you haven’t been paying attention, posting a Covid comment on the Rutgers thread is like starting a new thread titled “Hopkins should go D3 and Cornell is a SUNY school”
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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USWR released their current rankings. Rutgers jumps to #40 in the country, top 15 in publics, and #5 in the Big Ten, which has a strong presence. Considering typical lacrosse players interested in academics, this is another tool in the recruiting chest.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ra ... iversities
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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1766 wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:49 pm USWR released their current rankings. Rutgers jumps to #40 in the country, top 15 in publics, and #5 in the Big Ten, which has a strong presence. Considering typical lacrosse players interested in academics, this is another tool in the recruiting chest.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ra ... iversities
Great but it is certainly not helping recruiting as the rest of the. If Ten is curb stomping them in that area
The lack of talent in the recruiting classes has forced them to dip deeper and deeper into the transfer portal.
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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Polegoal wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 3:59 pm
1766 wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:49 pm USWR released their current rankings. Rutgers jumps to #40 in the country, top 15 in publics, and #5 in the Big Ten, which has a strong presence. Considering typical lacrosse players interested in academics, this is another tool in the recruiting chest.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ra ... iversities
Great but it is certainly not helping recruiting as the rest of the. If Ten is curb stomping them in that area
The lack of talent in the recruiting classes has forced them to dip deeper and deeper into the transfer portal.
They have more high school recruited four stars on this roster than at any other time. The portal is recruiting.
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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2024 roster is up.

28 new players between frosh and transfers.

Wowzers.
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Njlaxx11 wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:09 pm 2024 roster is up.

28 new players between frosh and transfers.

Wowzers.
Class count
12 First years
9 Sophomores
5 Juniors
29 Seniors and grad students
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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Class of 2021 - started with 10 recruits, down to 5 two years later.
Class of 2022 - started with 11 recruits, down to 9 one year later.

But yeah, there are no negative effects of bringing in tons of transfers every year. It’s a strong locker room, they embrace the extra competition, nothing to see here.
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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BigTom5 wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:04 pm Class of 2021 - started with 10 recruits, down to 5 two years later.
Class of 2022 - started with 11 recruits, down to 9 one year later.

But yeah, there are no negative effects of bringing in tons of transfers every year. It’s a strong locker room, they embrace the extra competition, nothing to see here.
So BB can’t recruit especially his home state so he has to go rummaging through the portal for kids and is saved by their access to the business school.

Some one asked why he does not scrimmage other teams and I would imagine there are multiple reasons. He does not have to make roster decisions until the spring.
He does not want to put his team against another one and lose.

His exploitation of the portal is already beginning to take a nose dive as other teams are doing a much better job of getting the top kids.
I know BB defenders will say that he is picky and looking for a specific type of kid but that is just an excuse.

The fact that they have more 4 star kids on the roster now is even more of an idicme t of BB poor recruiting.
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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Polegoal wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:29 pm
BigTom5 wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:04 pm Class of 2021 - started with 10 recruits, down to 5 two years later.
Class of 2022 - started with 11 recruits, down to 9 one year later.

But yeah, there are no negative effects of bringing in tons of transfers every year. It’s a strong locker room, they embrace the extra competition, nothing to see here.
So BB can’t recruit especially his home state so he has to go rummaging through the portal for kids and is saved by their access to the business school.

Some one asked why he does not scrimmage other teams and I would imagine there are multiple reasons. He does not have to make roster decisions until the spring.
He does not want to put his team against another one and lose.

His exploitation of the portal is already beginning to take a nose dive as other teams are doing a much better job of getting the top kids.
I know BB defenders will say that he is picky and looking for a specific type of kid but that is just an excuse.

The fact that they have more 4 star kids on the roster now is even more of an idicme t of BB poor recruiting.

"Exploitation of the portal" LOL. "More 4 stars now than ever before is an indictment". LOL. "Doesn't have to make roster decisions until the Spring" even though it was released today. LOL "Doesn't want to lose a fall scrimmage" LOL.

You my friend seem appear to be a genius. I'm highly impressed with your knowledge and understanding of the lacrosse world, particularly that of Rutgers.
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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BigTom5 wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:04 pm Class of 2021 - started with 10 recruits, down to 5 two years later.
Class of 2022 - started with 11 recruits, down to 9 one year later.

But yeah, there are no negative effects of bringing in tons of transfers every year. It’s a strong locker room, they embrace the extra competition, nothing to see here.
Losing 2 players from a class from 2 years ago isn't unusual at all. It's also the year Rutgers went to the Final Four.
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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1766 wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:44 pm
BigTom5 wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:04 pm Class of 2021 - started with 10 recruits, down to 5 two years later.
Class of 2022 - started with 11 recruits, down to 9 one year later.

But yeah, there are no negative effects of bringing in tons of transfers every year. It’s a strong locker room, they embrace the extra competition, nothing to see here.
Losing 2 players from a class from 2 years ago isn't unusual at all. It's also the year Rutgers went to the Final Four.
I know math is difficult, but you lost 5 guys from a class two years ago (and 2 from the class one year ago).

Five out of ten is unusual, no?
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Re: Rutgers 2024

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i really don't get the rutgers hate.

what did they waitlist your kid? BB didn't give him a call on 9/1?

they've transformed their program through the portal - of course they're going to keep going to it. they've brought in some great players through it. RU has a phenomenal grad school, it's no wonder why kids want to go use their 5th or grad years there.
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