old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:56 pm
Do you accept the laptop as authentic, or still dismiss it as a Rudy scam ?
The one in the FBI's possession? If I recall they said yes, it's his.
As for what Giuliani's copied, what he gave to the NYPost, or gave to the NYtimes? I have no earthly idea, and neither do you.
He could have left stuff out, I don't know.
What I DO know is that before the 2020 election, the public had Giuliani's CLAIMS that he had Hunter's laptop, and that was it. That's what we had to go on.
And naturally, we didn't believe him. Next time? Upload the thing, and stop playing games.
What is the House committee working with ?
Not Hunter's laptop. That much I know for certain.
Where do you think they first learned about the emails & other communications they're using ?
Not from Hunter's laptop. They don't have it. I can say that i've seen videos of Hunter....but that doesn't mean I have Hunter's Laptop.
It's good that you finally get Giuliani's trick....and why that trick led to the NYPost writers refusing to sign their own story. And why sharp people called Bullsh9t on Giuliani's story.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 10:43 pm
He didn't indict before the SOL ran on several tax years, or even get an extension of the SOL, which was possible.
There is no dispute about what Hunter did or did not file with the IRS. Why did Weiss let Hunter off the hook for those years ?
Ask Barr. You can't claim it was a simple quick case, while in the same breath, tell me I'm insane for asking why Barr didn't drop the hammer in a matter of months.
You have to make a choice. And remember....the whistleblowers told you that Barr was dragging his feet. You can't ignore that.
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:52 pm
Sigh. How many times do we have to go over this? The laptop was not authentic in the sense that it was not Hunter’s laptop. Some of the contents on the laptop are authentically Hunter’s. His laptop was hacked. Someone, who knows who, hacked Hunter. They uploaded the contents of his laptop, then found a laptop they thought they could pass off as his. Then they downloaded the authentic contents onto this phony laptop. They also sprinkled in some fabricated contents.
Then they dropped the laptop off at the blind guy’s repair shop in Delaware. They neglected to check where Hunter was on that day. Turns out he was in California which is kind of a big hole in the scam.
As I’ve said many times, if that was really Hunter’s laptop, why has nobody reported it has his DNA or fingerprints on it? Surely some of the Trumpists in the FBI would have leaked that if it were true. It’s not.
Carry on.
...& who pulled off this elaborate hoax ? Rudy ? The Russians ? Both ? Will Abby Lowe be proving this ?
Rudy didn’t hack the laptop. I don’t know if they have figured out who did it. Why did the blind guy send the laptop to Rudy? Rudy sure took the ball and ran with it from that point.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:56 pm
Do you accept the laptop as authentic, or still dismiss it as a Rudy scam ?
The one in the FBI's possession? If I recall they said yes, it's his.
As for what Giuliani's copied, what he gave to the NYPost, or gave to the NYtimes? I have no earthly idea, and neither do you.
He could have left stuff out, I don't know.
What I DO know is that before the 2020 election, the public had Giuliani's CLAIMS that he had Hunter's laptop, and that was it. That's what we had to go on.
And naturally, we didn't believe him. Next time? Upload the thing, and stop playing games.
What is the House committee working with ?
Not Hunter's laptop. That much I know for certain.
Where do you think they first learned about the emails & other communications they're using ?
Not from Hunter's laptop. They don't have it. I can say that i've seen videos of Hunter....but that doesn't mean I have Hunter's Laptop.
It's good that you finally get Giuliani's trick....and why that trick led to the NYPost writers refusing to sign their own story. And why sharp people called Bullsh9t on Giuliani's story.
In the WB's testimony there are several references to evidence from the laptop used in their investigation.
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:52 pm
Sigh. How many times do we have to go over this? The laptop was not authentic in the sense that it was not Hunter’s laptop. Some of the contents on the laptop are authentically Hunter’s. His laptop was hacked. Someone, who knows who, hacked Hunter. They uploaded the contents of his laptop, then found a laptop they thought they could pass off as his. Then they downloaded the authentic contents onto this phony laptop. They also sprinkled in some fabricated contents.
Then they dropped the laptop off at the blind guy’s repair shop in Delaware. They neglected to check where Hunter was on that day. Turns out he was in California which is kind of a big hole in the scam.
As I’ve said many times, if that was really Hunter’s laptop, why has nobody reported it has his DNA or fingerprints on it? Surely some of the Trumpists in the FBI would have leaked that if it were true. It’s not.
Carry on.
...& who pulled off this elaborate hoax ? Rudy ? The Russians ? Both ? Will Abby Lowe be proving this ?
Rudy didn’t hack the laptop. I don’t know if they have figured out who did it. Why did the blind guy send the laptop to Rudy? Rudy sure took the ball and ran with it from that point.
The blind guy answered that & I posted it up the page. He first tried to follow up with the FBI, then members of Congress before he contacted Rudy's lawyer. Even the WP & NYT have verified the authenticity of much of what is on the laptop.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:56 pm
Do you accept the laptop as authentic, or still dismiss it as a Rudy scam ?
The one in the FBI's possession? If I recall they said yes, it's his.
As for what Giuliani's copied, what he gave to the NYPost, or gave to the NYtimes? I have no earthly idea, and neither do you.
He could have left stuff out, I don't know.
What I DO know is that before the 2020 election, the public had Giuliani's CLAIMS that he had Hunter's laptop, and that was it. That's what we had to go on.
And naturally, we didn't believe him. Next time? Upload the thing, and stop playing games.
What is the House committee working with ?
Not Hunter's laptop. That much I know for certain.
Where do you think they first learned about the emails & other communications they're using ?
Not from Hunter's laptop. They don't have it. I can say that i've seen videos of Hunter....but that doesn't mean I have Hunter's Laptop.
It's good that you finally get Giuliani's trick....and why that trick led to the NYPost writers refusing to sign their own story. And why sharp people called Bullsh9t on Giuliani's story.
In the WB's testimony there are several references to evidence from the laptop used in their investigation.
That's the WB's. You asked what "the House committee was working with". The House certainly doesn't have the alleged physical laptop.
jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:28 pm
Well other FBI and IRS agents who were in the room testified today that they do not recall Weiss ever saying anything about not having final decision authority on Hunter. Trouble for the lying Gary Shapley testimony. He stands alone. Shouldn't surprise anyone familiar with the way today's republiCONs work. SOP for this scum.
njbill wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:52 pm
Sigh. How many times do we have to go over this? The laptop was not authentic in the sense that it was not Hunter’s laptop. Some of the contents on the laptop are authentically Hunter’s. His laptop was hacked. Someone, who knows who, hacked Hunter. They uploaded the contents of his laptop, then found a laptop they thought they could pass off as his. Then they downloaded the authentic contents onto this phony laptop. They also sprinkled in some fabricated contents.
Then they dropped the laptop off at the blind guy’s repair shop in Delaware. They neglected to check where Hunter was on that day. Turns out he was in California which is kind of a big hole in the scam.
As I’ve said many times, if that was really Hunter’s laptop, why has nobody reported it has his DNA or fingerprints on it? Surely some of the Trumpists in the FBI would have leaked that if it were true. It’s not.
Carry on.
...& who pulled off this elaborate hoax ? Rudy ? The Russians ? Both ? Will Abby Lowe be proving this ?
Rudy didn’t hack the laptop. I don’t know if they have figured out who did it. Why did the blind guy send the laptop to Rudy? Rudy sure took the ball and ran with it from that point.
The blind guy answered that & I posted it up the page. He first tried to follow up with the FBI, then members of Congress before he contacted Rudy's lawyer. Even the WP & NYT have verified the authenticity of much of what is on the laptop.
That may answer why he didn’t send the laptop to Rudy first, but it doesn’t answer why he sent the laptop to Rudy at all. Why? The answer is pretty obvious.
Yes, much of the contents are authentic. I don’t think that has been in dispute for a long time now. But Hunter got hacked. The contents were obtained illegally. I don’t think that is really in dispute either.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 5:56 pm
Do you accept the laptop as authentic, or still dismiss it as a Rudy scam ?
The one in the FBI's possession? If I recall they said yes, it's his.
As for what Giuliani's copied, what he gave to the NYPost, or gave to the NYtimes? I have no earthly idea, and neither do you.
He could have left stuff out, I don't know.
What I DO know is that before the 2020 election, the public had Giuliani's CLAIMS that he had Hunter's laptop, and that was it. That's what we had to go on.
And naturally, we didn't believe him. Next time? Upload the thing, and stop playing games.
What is the House committee working with ?
Not Hunter's laptop. That much I know for certain.
Where do you think they first learned about the emails & other communications they're using ?
Not from Hunter's laptop. They don't have it. I can say that i've seen videos of Hunter....but that doesn't mean I have Hunter's Laptop.
It's good that you finally get Giuliani's trick....and why that trick led to the NYPost writers refusing to sign their own story. And why sharp people called Bullsh9t on Giuliani's story.
In the WB's testimony there are several references to evidence from the laptop used in their investigation.
That's the WB's. You asked what "the House committee was working with". The House certainly doesn't have the alleged physical laptop.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3718 ... -dealings/ 11-04-22
Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), ranking member on the House Oversight Committee who is likely to chair the panel in a GOP majority, has long been preparing for hearings and advancing investigations into the Biden family businesses. Republican staff members on the panel have a copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive and have been poring over it for months.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:46 pmhttps://thehill.com/homenews/house/3718 ... -dealings/ 11-04-22
Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), ranking member on the House Oversight Committee who is likely to chair the panel in a GOP majority, has long been preparing for hearings and advancing investigations into the Biden family businesses. Republican staff members on the panel have a copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive and have been poring over it for months.
That's right. An alleged copy. Not the actual claimed laptop.
Can't imagine the FBI handing over a copy of evidence in an ongoing case. Can you?
How fitting would it be if this "copy" came from Giuliani? Full circle of utter bullsh(t.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:46 pmhttps://thehill.com/homenews/house/3718 ... -dealings/ 11-04-22
Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), ranking member on the House Oversight Committee who is likely to chair the panel in a GOP majority, has long been preparing for hearings and advancing investigations into the Biden family businesses. Republican staff members on the panel have a copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive and have been poring over it for months.
That's right. An alleged copy. Not the actual claimed laptop.
Can't imagine the FBI handing over a copy of evidence in an ongoing case. Can you?
How fitting would it be if this "copy" came from Giuliani? Full circle of utter bullsh(t.
.... yup! The only people who are going to believe this nonsense are MAGA toads, and not even all of them.
"Witness testimony disputes IRS whistleblower allegations in Hunter Biden probe as Republicans begin impeachment inquiry.
New testimony from a number of FBI and Internal Revenue Service officials casts doubt on key claims from an IRS whistleblower who alleges there was political interference in the federal criminal investigation of Hunter Biden’s taxes.
According to transcripts provided to CNN, several FBI and IRS officials brought in for closed-door testimony by House Republicans in recent days said they don’t remember US Attorney David Weiss saying that he lacked the authority to decide whether to bring charges against the president’s son, or that Weiss said he had been denied a request for special counsel status."
The IRS whistleblower took detailed notes of the meeting. There is not remembering and documenting what was said. You think you understand the difference? Do these other folks have an indentict memory? Are they just lying. I'll roll with the IRS guy who took notes of the meeting over the folks who don't remember chit. FTR, how did their testimony under oath play out... we don't remember chit? That sounds like they were briefed using the HRC playbook of...I don't recall, I don't remember.
Eiditic. Doesn’t mean what you think it means. It is a visual recall with high precision, but the “image” doesn’t last very long. In my case, just long enough to “ace” the silly tests that were a matter of filling in items elided from something (diagram, etc.) I knew would be the subject of the test. Well, until my teacher got wise to this “ability” and gave me special tests…
“casts doubt”
Just another opinion.
“ I’m a trained observer and won’t answer your pointed question”
Why is this even an issue? Obviously Weiss indicted Hunter, which sorta answered the question: can he charge Hunter.....so isn't this whole thing moot?
Smoke and mirrors keeping Barr, Wray and Rettig from taking the stand, and clearing any of these issues up instantly.
Naturally, as I keep saying....we won't be hearing from them. Because of course we won't.
... it really fully impeaches the so-called whistleblower. Prior to this it was his word against Weiss' as far as this point is concerned.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:46 pmhttps://thehill.com/homenews/house/3718 ... -dealings/ 11-04-22
Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), ranking member on the House Oversight Committee who is likely to chair the panel in a GOP majority, has long been preparing for hearings and advancing investigations into the Biden family businesses. Republican staff members on the panel have a copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive and have been poring over it for months.
That's right. An alleged copy. Not the actual claimed laptop.
Can't imagine the FBI handing over a copy of evidence in an ongoing case. Can you?
How fitting would it be if this "copy" came from Giuliani? Full circle of utter bullsh(t.
.... yup! The only people who are going to believe this nonsense are MAGA toads, and not even all of them.
Willful blindness. The bank records & SAR's are fakes too.
The laptop is not authentic unless it has DNA from Hunter's bodily fluids.
As I recall, jhu72 was a big promoter of the Trump-Alfa Bank server connection.
...how'd that one play out ?
Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), ranking member on the House Oversight Committee who is likely to chair the panel in a GOP majority, has long been preparing for hearings and advancing investigations into the Biden family businesses. Republican staff members on the panel have a copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive and have been poring over it for months.[/i]
geeezbuzz...
THIS....is what we are paying Federal staff for.? .........and of course, the "experts" to break all the data down ?
such a complete waste of time .......thanks for doing my fellow Kentuckians/Sz a solid with this.
Such a POS, Comer IS. Has he nothing better to do for his district constituants?
ILM...Independent Lives Matter
Pronouns: "we" and "suck"
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:46 pmhttps://thehill.com/homenews/house/3718 ... -dealings/ 11-04-22
Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), ranking member on the House Oversight Committee who is likely to chair the panel in a GOP majority, has long been preparing for hearings and advancing investigations into the Biden family businesses. Republican staff members on the panel have a copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive and have been poring over it for months.
That's right. An alleged copy. Not the actual claimed laptop.
Can't imagine the FBI handing over a copy of evidence in an ongoing case. Can you?
How fitting would it be if this "copy" came from Giuliani? Full circle of utter bullsh(t.
so, you're back to your original thought and first post on this thread. All just a big nothing burger, as you like to "say"
Hunter's own admission, the pictures, on and on.....and yet, your Democratic "centrist" zealotry in defending Hunty is mind blowing........
........did you guys defend Hillary Clinton's friend, Harvey Weiner......too ?
geez
ILM...Independent Lives Matter
Pronouns: "we" and "suck"
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:46 pmhttps://thehill.com/homenews/house/3718 ... -dealings/ 11-04-22
Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), ranking member on the House Oversight Committee who is likely to chair the panel in a GOP majority, has long been preparing for hearings and advancing investigations into the Biden family businesses. Republican staff members on the panel have a copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive and have been poring over it for months.
That's right. An alleged copy. Not the actual claimed laptop.
Can't imagine the FBI handing over a copy of evidence in an ongoing case. Can you?
How fitting would it be if this "copy" came from Giuliani? Full circle of utter bullsh(t.
.... yup! The only people who are going to believe this nonsense are MAGA toads, and not even all of them.
Willful blindness. The bank records & SAR's are fakes too.
The laptop is not authentic unless it has DNA from Hunter's bodily fluids.
Willful blindness?
Tell you what: if we find out that the House Comittee never had access to the laptop the FBI is using, and instead, are using the copies circulated by Giulani, you give me $1000.
Deal?
No one is disputing that files and emails in question are Hunters, OS.
old salt wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2023 11:46 pmhttps://thehill.com/homenews/house/3718 ... -dealings/ 11-04-22
Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.), ranking member on the House Oversight Committee who is likely to chair the panel in a GOP majority, has long been preparing for hearings and advancing investigations into the Biden family businesses. Republican staff members on the panel have a copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive and have been poring over it for months.
That's right. An alleged copy. Not the actual claimed laptop.
Can't imagine the FBI handing over a copy of evidence in an ongoing case. Can you?
How fitting would it be if this "copy" came from Giuliani? Full circle of utter bullsh(t.
so, you're back to your original thought and first post on this thread. All just a big nothing burger, as you like to "say"
So you're telling us that you're still not bright enough to realize that Giuliani played you? Perfect. Keep it up!
a fan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:31 am
No one is disputing that files and emails in question are Hunters, OS.
So why are you quibbling about the source & authenticity of the evidence found on the laptops.
...other than to create a diversion. The laptop was a source for investigators to corroborate what they found there.
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:36 am
Suspicious activity reports are filed all the time on totally innocuous stuff. It’s more or less automated this day as to what triggers it.
Means absolutely nothing. Presenting that as evidence of a crime illustrates a complete lack of understanding of what their talking about.
We've been over this before. Again, you're not telling me anything I don't already know.
The SARs are a way to verify the money trail. There are a large number of them. many to Biden family members, which need to be verified for tax purposes.
The one in the FBI's possession? If I recall they said yes, it's his.
For Cradle's benefit - these statements were all UNDER OATH.
FTR, how did their testimony under oath play out... we don't remember chit? That sounds like they were briefed using the HRC playbook of...I don't recall, I don't remember. 
