Recruiting

[LaxDadMax]

Question for those who have been through it or those who think they know. And I know we are on a forum so I’m just asking this. Not taking any stock on it.

In regards to money, is it better to commit early, say first month? Or wait until the team has a few commits under their belt? I’ve heard different things of course. Quick commits don’t get money, or they are legacies, etc. And I’m not talking about the top 20 kids. I’m talking about very good kids to any kind of school.

Honestly, it varies a bit school by school. Also, many schools will just give "ranges" of $$ when offers are made and say they can finalize when recruiting class is full.

That said, I've never heard of situations when quick commits get less. Actually most coaches want a couple quick commitments because it gives their recruiting class some momentum and can help pressure other recruits to make a decision.

Also, for really good lax players, who aren't top 100 players and aren't draw specialists or goalies, it is VERY rare for them to get more than 25%-30% so there really isn't much variability for kids who get dollars.

As an example, let's say a program has 2.0 scholarships to give out across a freshman class. Here is how it could look

0.4 Goalie
0.3 draw specialist
0.35 midfielder
0.3 defender
0.25 midfielder
0.25 attacker
0.15 defender
0 attacker
0 midfielder
0 defender

[LaxNJ71]

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-other/ ... tid=Zxz2cZ

[LaxDadMax]

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-other/ ... tid=Zxz2cZ

Really bad move by Clemson coaching staff leaking the girls who are visiting. This could backfire in a big way.

[CnyLax]

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-other/ ... tid=Zxz2cZ

Really bad move by Clemson coaching staff leaking the girls who are visiting. This could backfire in a big way.

This is what football & basketball do. If you want full scholarships or NIL money this seems part of the process. Im sure that article will get some of their donors excited

[SoCal]

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-other/ ... tid=Zxz2cZ

Really bad move by Clemson coaching staff leaking the girls who are visiting. This could backfire in a big way.

I think it’s great. I’ve never understood all of the secrecy around girls lacrosse recruiting. I don’t know of any other sport that does it that way.

[OuttaNowhereWregget]

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-other/ ... tid=Zxz2cZ

Really bad move by Clemson coaching staff leaking the girls who are visiting. This could backfire in a big way.

I think it’s great. I’ve never understood all of the secrecy around girls lacrosse recruiting. I don’t know of any other sport that does it that way.

Add in the top secret classified policies by some clubs regarding injuries, as well.

[flushlax77]

Frankly, in the NIL era, this is going to be common place, especially as these student-athletes start building their brands. Football and basketball kids don’t have to as much because donors/fans are going to support those teams anyways. These non-revenue sports have to grow their own name recognition in order to maximize their potential to make money.

This is super common in baseball, softball, gymnastics, etc. now lacrosse has joined the fray. NCAA is going to really look different in a few years….might not be a good thing.

[carrollax]

I wonder if they got the permission from the recruits to do this. Could put them in awkward position regarding other schools...

[Kleizaster]

Kwolek is definitely letting it be known that she means business. Their "committment to excellence" basically means they're gonna be throwing alot of NIL money at these recruits. Landing recruits is one thing..winning with them is another. See Florida, Duke, ND, Stanford. But i do think they'll be a perenial top 25 team in 2-3 years if they continue recruiting at an elite level

[Relax77]

I wonder if they got the permission from the recruits to do this. Could put them in awkward position regarding other schools...

Nah. Only helps them.

[Relax77]

Kwolek is definitely letting it be known that she means business. Their "committment to excellence" basically means they're gonna be throwing alot of NIL money at these recruits. Landing recruits is one thing..winning with them is another. See Florida, Duke, ND, Stanford. But i do think they'll be a perenial top 25 team in 2-3 years if they continue recruiting at an elite level

Everyone thought they would burst onto the scene and they have. And in the next 2-5 years Miami and Georgia will be flying through that door as well. Different era in college sports.

And to the other poster. I don’t think Clemson boosters care about women’s lax.

[Womenslaxxfan]

Kwolek is definitely letting it be known that she means business. Their "committment to excellence" basically means they're gonna be throwing alot of NIL money at these recruits. Landing recruits is one thing..winning with them is another. See Florida, Duke, ND, Stanford. But i do think they'll be a perenial top 25 team in 2-3 years if they continue recruiting at an elite level

Everyone thought they would burst onto the scene and they have. And in the next 2-5 years Miami and Georgia will be flying through that door as well. Different era in college sports.

And to the other poster. I don’t think Clemson boosters care about women’s lax.

NIL money for women’s lax is tiny unless donors fund a women’s lax program at a school specifically OR NIL pool from other sports somehow gets a small allocation to women’s lax. If I were a football NIL donor, I’d be pissed to have a dime of it go to women’s lax. The football team already support women’s lax enough.

I love watching this sport— but there’s no real money in it other than booster funded money.

Women’s lax is behind women’s soccer, basketball, volleyball and softball at most schools in terms of player pool. Our sport is not even in the top 8 of high school participation. Let’s keep it real….

Clemson is a hot school right now mostly because of the success of their football program. Not surprising that 16 year old girls would be interested in visiting. Their “launch” reminds me a lot of Florida’s when they entered the women’s lax scene. But they have some serious competition for recruiting in the acc—BC, UNC, Duke and UVA are superior schools academically with better lacrosse traditions, and Cuse has a great lax reputation.

Clemson can carve out their own spot…but they would be lucky to have a trajectory that looks like Florida!!

[LaxGnome22]

I hope they sign all 7. That would really shake up the next two weeks.

[Womenslaxxfan]

Frankly, in the NIL era, this is going to be common place, especially as these student-athletes start building their brands. Football and basketball kids don’t have to as much because donors/fans are going to support those teams anyways. These non-revenue sports have to grow their own name recognition in order to maximize their potential to make money.

This is super common in baseball, softball, gymnastics, etc. now lacrosse has joined the fray. NCAA is going to really look different in a few years….might not be a good thing.

Flushlax—the type of brand building that is pervasive in women’s sports right now unfortunately tends towards skimpy outfits and swimsuits photos. Hard pass for my daughter!

[suffolk]

Frankly, in the NIL era, this is going to be common place, especially as these student-athletes start building their brands. Football and basketball kids don’t have to as much because donors/fans are going to support those teams anyways. These non-revenue sports have to grow their own name recognition in order to maximize their potential to make money.

This is super common in baseball, softball, gymnastics, etc. now lacrosse has joined the fray. NCAA is going to really look different in a few years….might not be a good thing.

Flushlax—the type of brand building that is pervasive in women’s sports right now unfortunately tends towards skimpy outfits and swimsuits photos. Hard pass for my daughter!

What????? In other sports it is common place for school related publications to publish the list of players who are visiting. NIL's are now part of the lacrosse recruiting landscape. The old guard of lacrosse needs to adjust to the times. I think Clemson's social media page is tremendous. The staff works hard (despite fighting serious illness) making visits up to Long Island to watch athletes play other sports for their high school teams and home visits, which yes upset some of the old IWLA guard. What Clemson is doing is cutting edge and they should be commended for it. They are trying to build a championship program by outworking their competition. I don't get the correlation at all to "skimpy outfits and swimsuits photos."

[Womenslaxxfan]

Frankly, in the NIL era, this is going to be common place, especially as these student-athletes start building their brands. Football and basketball kids don’t have to as much because donors/fans are going to support those teams anyways. These non-revenue sports have to grow their own name recognition in order to maximize their potential to make money.

This is super common in baseball, softball, gymnastics, etc. now lacrosse has joined the fray. NCAA is going to really look different in a few years….might not be a good thing.

Flushlax—the type of brand building that is pervasive in women’s sports right now unfortunately tends towards skimpy outfits and swimsuits photos. Hard pass for my daughter!

What????? In other sports it is common place for school related publications to publish the list of players who are visiting. NIL's are now part of the lacrosse recruiting landscape. The old guard of lacrosse needs to adjust to the times. I think Clemson's social media page is tremendous. The staff works hard (despite fighting serious illness) making visits up to Long Island to watch athletes play other sports for their high school teams and home visits, which yes upset some of the old IWLA guard. What Clemson is doing is cutting edge and they should be commended for it. They are trying to build a championship program by outworking their competition. I don't get the correlation at all to "skimpy outfits and swimsuits photos."

Suffolk
Clemson a social media page isn’t brand building for women lax players to get NIL money or other endorsements.
Look at Olivia Dunne or Emily Cole as examples of brand building online for NIL and endorsement money.
Clemson womens lacrosse website has nothing to do with NIL

[Womenslaxxfan]

And I will stop posting about NIL on this thread….which is about recruits and who goes where. Back to speculating where AS will end up

[forthelaxofit]

I don't have an opinion either way if colleges should post who is coming. But if Clemson is going to be the woman lacrosse trend setter doing it, you better sign a decent number of them or you are going to have a lot of egg on your face. If they strike out after posting this, it will leave a mark.

[Relax77]

I don't have an opinion either way if colleges should post who is coming. But if Clemson is going to be the woman lacrosse trend setter doing it, you better sign a decent number of them or you are going to have a lot of egg on your face. If they strike out after posting this, it will leave a mark.

Yep. Sign three of them great. Which they will. Don’t and egg on your face. But like come on……Did everyone not think these girls were going to go to Clemson to visit. Anyone here can mention five girls who are going to visit Unc and they will be 80 % right. No secret here. Been telling you for weeks AS is getting a full ride from Clemson.

[forthelaxofit]

I don't have an opinion either way if colleges should post who is coming. But if Clemson is going to be the woman lacrosse trend setter doing it, you better sign a decent number of them or you are going to have a lot of egg on your face. If they strike out after posting this, it will leave a mark.

Yep. Sign three of them great. Which they will. Don’t and egg on your face. But like come on……Did everyone not think these girls were going to go to Clemson to visit. Anyone here can mention five girls who are going to visit Unc and they will be 80 % right. No secret here. Been telling you for weeks AS is getting a full ride from Clemson.

Don't get me wrong, I hope they land as many as they can. Stop the flow of top ranked girls to the same top 4 or 5 schools. Send a few shock waves out. I'm all in favor. If they get 3, I agree that would be great. Get more, outstanding outcome for them. I just hope for their sake they don't swing and miss.