Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

The odds are excellent that you will leave this forum hating someone.
ggait
Posts: 4443
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:23 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by ggait »

Neutral questions. Not natural.

The judge never said anything like “X is a sweetheart deal. No way I’m approving that turd.”

She just asked both sides “do you all agree the deal is X?”

And the defense said yes and the feds said no.

That is actually what happened Cray. Judge did not question anything about the fairness or unfairness of the deal.
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
User avatar
old salt
Posts: 18896
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:44 am

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by old salt »

MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:48 am
old salt wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:48 am
old salt wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:06 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:42 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:35 am
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:57 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:10 pm House Subpoenas (drumroll) anyone other than the people in charge who can clear this mess up in five seconds.

Shocker.

After reading more about the plea "accidental implosion", it's obvious that Weiss (R) colluded with Barr to slow this now 6 year long investigation into the 2024 election. We're almost there.

The in just a few months, these offenses of Hunter happened a full freaking decade ago. Weiss is going so slow in his attempt to cripple Biden 2024, he's letting the statute of limitations run out.

Hunter is the appetizer. Joe is the dinner.
https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden ... dfe4a50393
:lol: ...sure, you're not defending Hunter. Poor Hunter, he's such a victim. Nobody tried to help him out of the endless string of jams he created for himself. Did you buy his book, or one of his elementary school paintings ? The Biden team managed to keep Hunter off the menu for over 2 years while the SOLs run.

The House is calling to hear from 4 other agents at the Oct 2022 mtg to verify or contradict the key to the WB's allegations.
They were ear witnesses to what Weiss said about his autonomy & directions from above.
What are you afraid of finding out ? Maybe they'll support Weiss, undercut the WB's, & the whole issue will die away.
More reporting from Catherine Herridge:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-pane ... -tax-case/
Great; why not Rettig?
Rettig did act. The IRS referred the case to the DoJ.

https://optimataxrelief.com/when-does-t ... be%20filed.
The IRS typically does not pursue criminal charges unless you exhibit a pattern of intentionally breaking tax laws. This can include non-filing, filing fraudulent returns, falsifying information on your return, not paying taxes, and more. The IRS statute of limitations could trigger charges to be filed. Currently, the IRS has six years from the return filing date to pursue criminal charges that related to failing to file and underreporting income.

If the IRS decides to open a case against you, they will refer it to the Department of Justice for prosecution. In order for the IRS to be successful in convicting someone for tax evasion, they must prove without reasonable doubt that the accused taxpayer (or nonpayer) acted in a deliberate and willful manner to avoid paying their taxes.


I remain astonished that the CA & DC US Attys did not allow Weiss to file charges for at least failure to file before the SOL ran for 2014 & 2015 tax years.

From the CBS report above :
"Because it had been denied, he informed us the government would not be bringing charges against Hunter Biden for the 2014-2015 tax years, for which the statute of limitations were set to expire in one month. All of our years of effort getting to the bottom of the massive amounts of foreign money Hunter Biden received from Burisma and others during that period would be for nothing."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/politics ... index.html
The IRS whistleblowers said the recommendation called for Hunter Biden to be charged with tax evasion and filing a false tax return – both felonies – for 2014, 2018 and 2019. The IRS also recommended that prosecutors charge him with failing to pay taxes on time, a misdemeanor, for 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019, according to the transcripts...
Great; so call Rettig and put him under oath in the House to explain the case they referred and what it did and did not include.

Why don't they call him?

One very plausible answer is that the facts of the case they referred is what Hunter was negotiating and tried to plead to... and there was no case involving Joe. Uhhh ohhh, that doesn't fit the scandal narrative...
Irrelevant smoke screen. It doesn't matter what Rettig thought anymore than what his WB agents thought. It's not their call. It's the DoJ's call.

...& whether or not they thought they had anything on Pop Joe is irrelevant to let the SOL run on HB's failure to file & pay for 2014-15.
Why did Weiss stop negotiating with the defense to extend the SOL ?
Nope, the right wing theory is that the IRS had clear evidence of lots of crimes...and Rettig would know what that was, including whether it involved Joe.

The House doesn't want to hear it.

On the SOL's, we'll find out when the Special Counsel does his report, but it looks to me like they had a plea agreement in the works and didn't need to prosecute everything...but we'll see. The point is that the IRS under Rettig are the ones crying foul.
So you think the IRS was willing to let HB get away without paying taxes for 2014-15, + penalties & interest ?
tech37
Posts: 4407
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:02 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by tech37 »

Mainstream Media Propaganda at Work

Finally, the main line of resistance was manned by former Democrat representative Levin. Levin was not as bashful as Anderson in defending his party’s terrain. He quickly called in the defense’s final protective fires with the deny, lie, and ignore mode: “But nothing has tied the President to any of Hunter Biden's dealings. There's no whiff of him being involved or him being implicated in it.”

"IS THERE A WHIFF OF JOE BIDEN’S CORRPUTION?

An exhaustive list and discussion would swell this limited article to unacceptable proportions, but consider just a few examples of the “whiffs” that Levin, Tapper, Zeleny, and Anderson all ignored:

• For starters, what of the evidence that showed that 10% of the equity of a company to be formed in collaboration with the Chinese was to be held by Hunter for the “Big Guy.” Is that a whiff?

• How about Tony Bobulinski, who testified that Joe was the “Big Guy,” that he was Hunter’s business partner in dealing with the Chinese, and that contrary to Joe’s denials Bobulinski had personally been present when Joe and Hunter discussed the family business. Whiffs, anyone?

• For that matter, what about Hunter’s email to his daughter complaining that he had to give half of his income to “Dad?” No evidence of Joe’s involvement, Mr. Levin?

• Hunter texted that he had been paying bills for his father for eleven years. Is that one or eleven whiffs?

• What about Hunter’s representations to the Chinese whom he was shaking down, that Joe was sitting in the room next to him and joining in the demand for immediate millions. Enough for a whiff?

• Any whiffs in the recent testimony by IRS whistle blowers implicating Joe Biden?

• It is well documented that Joe flew Hunter to China and other countries on Airforce One and Two to conduct his business there. Do those whiffs count?

• What of the unexplained transfers of millions traced through various business accounts to Biden family members, including grandchildren, under what may be described as suspicious circumstances. Are these enough of a whiff to create even a slight breeze?

• Was the then-Vice President’s braggadocio about blackmailing the Ukranians into firing the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s corrupt company possibly a stronger breeze?"

https://substack.com/browse/news/post/136252901
User avatar
youthathletics
Posts: 15965
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:36 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by youthathletics »

The 'big guy' and his brother, along with son, are no different than Jimmy Hoffa and his Labor Union buddies. Also explains why Joe is the unions biggest fan.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy


“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
User avatar
cradleandshoot
Posts: 15571
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:42 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by cradleandshoot »

tech37 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:09 am Mainstream Media Propaganda at Work

Finally, the main line of resistance was manned by former Democrat representative Levin. Levin was not as bashful as Anderson in defending his party’s terrain. He quickly called in the defense’s final protective fires with the deny, lie, and ignore mode: “But nothing has tied the President to any of Hunter Biden's dealings. There's no whiff of him being involved or him being implicated in it.”

"IS THERE A WHIFF OF JOE BIDEN’S CORRPUTION?

An exhaustive list and discussion would swell this limited article to unacceptable proportions, but consider just a few examples of the “whiffs” that Levin, Tapper, Zeleny, and Anderson all ignored:

• For starters, what of the evidence that showed that 10% of the equity of a company to be formed in collaboration with the Chinese was to be held by Hunter for the “Big Guy.” Is that a whiff?

• How about Tony Bobulinski, who testified that Joe was the “Big Guy,” that he was Hunter’s business partner in dealing with the Chinese, and that contrary to Joe’s denials Bobulinski had personally been present when Joe and Hunter discussed the family business. Whiffs, anyone?

• For that matter, what about Hunter’s email to his daughter complaining that he had to give half of his income to “Dad?” No evidence of Joe’s involvement, Mr. Levin?

• Hunter texted that he had been paying bills for his father for eleven years. Is that one or eleven whiffs?

• What about Hunter’s representations to the Chinese whom he was shaking down, that Joe was sitting in the room next to him and joining in the demand for immediate millions. Enough for a whiff?

• Any whiffs in the recent testimony by IRS whistle blowers implicating Joe Biden?

• It is well documented that Joe flew Hunter to China and other countries on Airforce One and Two to conduct his business there. Do those whiffs count?

• What of the unexplained transfers of millions traced through various business accounts to Biden family members, including grandchildren, under what may be described as suspicious circumstances. Are these enough of a whiff to create even a slight breeze?

• Was the then-Vice President’s braggadocio about blackmailing the Ukranians into firing the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s corrupt company possibly a stronger breeze?"

https://substack.com/browse/news/post/136252901
If you keep following the money you will strike paydirt. I'm reminded of an episode of The Sopranos when Tony was hiding his cash all over the backyard. Maybe The Big Guy took the same approach? You have to wonder how much money is hidden all over the Biden compound?? :D
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
Bob Ross:
User avatar
youthathletics
Posts: 15965
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:36 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by youthathletics »

You guys need to stop....Bill Barr already settled this, years ago. ;)
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy


“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
a fan
Posts: 19700
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:05 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by a fan »

tech37 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:09 am Mainstream Media Propaganda at Work

Finally, the main line of resistance was manned by former Democrat representative Levin. Levin was not as bashful as Anderson in defending his party’s terrain. He quickly called in the defense’s final protective fires with the deny, lie, and ignore mode: “But nothing has tied the President to any of Hunter Biden's dealings. There's no whiff of him being involved or him being implicated in it.”

"IS THERE A WHIFF OF JOE BIDEN’S CORRPUTION?

An exhaustive list and discussion would swell this limited article to unacceptable proportions, but consider just a few examples of the “whiffs” that Levin, Tapper, Zeleny, and Anderson all ignored:

• For starters, what of the evidence that showed that 10% of the equity of a company to be formed in collaboration with the Chinese was to be held by Hunter for the “Big Guy.” Is that a whiff?

• How about Tony Bobulinski, who testified that Joe was the “Big Guy,” that he was Hunter’s business partner in dealing with the Chinese, and that contrary to Joe’s denials Bobulinski had personally been present when Joe and Hunter discussed the family business. Whiffs, anyone?

• For that matter, what about Hunter’s email to his daughter complaining that he had to give half of his income to “Dad?” No evidence of Joe’s involvement, Mr. Levin?

• Hunter texted that he had been paying bills for his father for eleven years. Is that one or eleven whiffs?

• What about Hunter’s representations to the Chinese whom he was shaking down, that Joe was sitting in the room next to him and joining in the demand for immediate millions. Enough for a whiff?

• Any whiffs in the recent testimony by IRS whistle blowers implicating Joe Biden?

• It is well documented that Joe flew Hunter to China and other countries on Airforce One and Two to conduct his business there. Do those whiffs count?

• What of the unexplained transfers of millions traced through various business accounts to Biden family members, including grandchildren, under what may be described as suspicious circumstances. Are these enough of a whiff to create even a slight breeze?

• Was the then-Vice President’s braggadocio about blackmailing the Ukranians into firing the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s corrupt company possibly a stronger breeze?"

https://substack.com/browse/news/post/136252901
Boy, you guys should REALLY ask the FBI, DoJ, and IRS to open an investigation. Because man, this stuff that was obtained by FBI, DoJ, and IRS investigations tells me that the FBI, DoJ, and IRS should open investigations.

In unrelated news, I was just reading a piece on the Mueller Report. And I have to tell you guys: they should REALLY look into this Trump guy and his relations with Russia. Maybe appoint a special prosecutor to investigate?
ggait
Posts: 4443
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:23 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by ggait »

• Was the then-Vice President’s braggadocio about blackmailing the Ukranians into firing the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s corrupt company possibly a stronger breeze?"
Come on Tech. This one has been fact checked as false like a million times.

That breeze we feel is from the 10 thousandth swing/miss from propagandists trying to make false stuff true. But as Goebbels teaches, repeat a lie often enough and some people (perhaps you as one example) will start to believe it.

Could we maybe talk about something more fact based instead? Like aliens or Bigfoot sightings? What are your thoughts on the faked moon landings?

Our rating: False

Based on our research, the claim that Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine to save his son's job is FALSE. The then-vice president leveraged aid dollars to persuade the country to oust its top prosecutor as part of anti-corruption efforts endorsed by other international players that were unrelated to his son, Hunter Biden.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 991434002/
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
User avatar
old salt
Posts: 18896
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:44 am

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by old salt »

ggait wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:20 pm
• Was the then-Vice President’s braggadocio about blackmailing the Ukranians into firing the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s corrupt company possibly a stronger breeze?"
Come on Tech. This one has been fact checked as false like a million times.

That breeze we feel is from the 10 thousandth swing/miss from propagandists trying to make false stuff true. But as Goebbels teaches, repeat a lie often enough and some people (perhaps you as one example) will start to believe it.

Could we maybe talk about something more fact based instead? Like aliens or Bigfoot sightings? What are your thoughts on the faked moon landings?

Our rating: False

Based on our research, the claim that Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine to save his son's job is FALSE. The then-vice president leveraged aid dollars to persuade the country to oust its top prosecutor as part of anti-corruption efforts endorsed by other international players that were unrelated to his son, Hunter Biden.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 991434002/
Did USA Today interview the Prosecutor that Biden insisted be fired ?
ggait
Posts: 4443
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:23 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by ggait »

False is false douche bag. STFU.

Respectfully of course.

Hey look — Bigfoot!!!!
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
Typical Lax Dad
Posts: 34257
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:10 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by Typical Lax Dad »

ggait wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:36 pm False is false douche bag. STFU.

Respectfully of course.

Hey look — Bigfoot!!!!
Man how far the Colonel Klink has fallen. All that nomenclature and remembering facts that were drilled into his brain doesn’t make up for faulty reasoning.
“I wish you would!”
User avatar
MDlaxfan76
Posts: 27187
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:40 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by MDlaxfan76 »

old salt wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:48 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:48 am
old salt wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:48 am
old salt wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:06 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:42 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:35 am
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:57 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:10 pm House Subpoenas (drumroll) anyone other than the people in charge who can clear this mess up in five seconds.

Shocker.

After reading more about the plea "accidental implosion", it's obvious that Weiss (R) colluded with Barr to slow this now 6 year long investigation into the 2024 election. We're almost there.

The in just a few months, these offenses of Hunter happened a full freaking decade ago. Weiss is going so slow in his attempt to cripple Biden 2024, he's letting the statute of limitations run out.

Hunter is the appetizer. Joe is the dinner.
https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden ... dfe4a50393
:lol: ...sure, you're not defending Hunter. Poor Hunter, he's such a victim. Nobody tried to help him out of the endless string of jams he created for himself. Did you buy his book, or one of his elementary school paintings ? The Biden team managed to keep Hunter off the menu for over 2 years while the SOLs run.

The House is calling to hear from 4 other agents at the Oct 2022 mtg to verify or contradict the key to the WB's allegations.
They were ear witnesses to what Weiss said about his autonomy & directions from above.
What are you afraid of finding out ? Maybe they'll support Weiss, undercut the WB's, & the whole issue will die away.
More reporting from Catherine Herridge:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-pane ... -tax-case/
Great; why not Rettig?
Rettig did act. The IRS referred the case to the DoJ.

https://optimataxrelief.com/when-does-t ... be%20filed.
The IRS typically does not pursue criminal charges unless you exhibit a pattern of intentionally breaking tax laws. This can include non-filing, filing fraudulent returns, falsifying information on your return, not paying taxes, and more. The IRS statute of limitations could trigger charges to be filed. Currently, the IRS has six years from the return filing date to pursue criminal charges that related to failing to file and underreporting income.

If the IRS decides to open a case against you, they will refer it to the Department of Justice for prosecution. In order for the IRS to be successful in convicting someone for tax evasion, they must prove without reasonable doubt that the accused taxpayer (or nonpayer) acted in a deliberate and willful manner to avoid paying their taxes.


I remain astonished that the CA & DC US Attys did not allow Weiss to file charges for at least failure to file before the SOL ran for 2014 & 2015 tax years.

From the CBS report above :
"Because it had been denied, he informed us the government would not be bringing charges against Hunter Biden for the 2014-2015 tax years, for which the statute of limitations were set to expire in one month. All of our years of effort getting to the bottom of the massive amounts of foreign money Hunter Biden received from Burisma and others during that period would be for nothing."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/politics ... index.html
The IRS whistleblowers said the recommendation called for Hunter Biden to be charged with tax evasion and filing a false tax return – both felonies – for 2014, 2018 and 2019. The IRS also recommended that prosecutors charge him with failing to pay taxes on time, a misdemeanor, for 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019, according to the transcripts...
Great; so call Rettig and put him under oath in the House to explain the case they referred and what it did and did not include.

Why don't they call him?

One very plausible answer is that the facts of the case they referred is what Hunter was negotiating and tried to plead to... and there was no case involving Joe. Uhhh ohhh, that doesn't fit the scandal narrative...
Irrelevant smoke screen. It doesn't matter what Rettig thought anymore than what his WB agents thought. It's not their call. It's the DoJ's call.

...& whether or not they thought they had anything on Pop Joe is irrelevant to let the SOL run on HB's failure to file & pay for 2014-15.
Why did Weiss stop negotiating with the defense to extend the SOL ?
Nope, the right wing theory is that the IRS had clear evidence of lots of crimes...and Rettig would know what that was, including whether it involved Joe.

The House doesn't want to hear it.

On the SOL's, we'll find out when the Special Counsel does his report, but it looks to me like they had a plea agreement in the works and didn't need to prosecute everything...but we'll see. The point is that the IRS under Rettig are the ones crying foul.
So you think the IRS was willing to let HB get away without paying taxes for 2014-15, + penalties & interest ?
Again, call Rettig in...while you're at it, call Wray...and hey, call Barr...nope, you guys don't want to hear they've got nuthin on Joe.

Just Hunter.

The House GOP and right wing guys like you don't want to know about Hunter, you're all simply trying to get at Joe...and are scared of the testimony of those who would know they had nuthin..

And no, I don't think anyone's cool with Hunter not paying any and all taxes owed. But if they had a serious case, they should have brought it back in 2018, 2019, or 2020...or 2021, or 2022.

But I don't think any of the House GOP really cares a hoot about Hunter's problems, really...it's all smoke to smear Joe.

Tell us you really care... :roll:
User avatar
MDlaxfan76
Posts: 27187
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:40 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by MDlaxfan76 »

Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:51 pm
ggait wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:36 pm False is false douche bag. STFU.

Respectfully of course.

Hey look — Bigfoot!!!!
Man how far the Colonel Klink has fallen. All that nomenclature and remembering facts that were drilled into his brain doesn’t make up for faulty reasoning.
It's all partisan jollies with Salty.
Typical Lax Dad
Posts: 34257
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:10 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by Typical Lax Dad »

MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:56 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:48 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 9:48 am
old salt wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:06 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:48 am
old salt wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:06 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:42 am
tech37 wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:35 am
old salt wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:57 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 9:10 pm House Subpoenas (drumroll) anyone other than the people in charge who can clear this mess up in five seconds.

Shocker.

After reading more about the plea "accidental implosion", it's obvious that Weiss (R) colluded with Barr to slow this now 6 year long investigation into the 2024 election. We're almost there.

The in just a few months, these offenses of Hunter happened a full freaking decade ago. Weiss is going so slow in his attempt to cripple Biden 2024, he's letting the statute of limitations run out.

Hunter is the appetizer. Joe is the dinner.
https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden ... dfe4a50393
:lol: ...sure, you're not defending Hunter. Poor Hunter, he's such a victim. Nobody tried to help him out of the endless string of jams he created for himself. Did you buy his book, or one of his elementary school paintings ? The Biden team managed to keep Hunter off the menu for over 2 years while the SOLs run.

The House is calling to hear from 4 other agents at the Oct 2022 mtg to verify or contradict the key to the WB's allegations.
They were ear witnesses to what Weiss said about his autonomy & directions from above.
What are you afraid of finding out ? Maybe they'll support Weiss, undercut the WB's, & the whole issue will die away.
More reporting from Catherine Herridge:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-pane ... -tax-case/
Great; why not Rettig?
Rettig did act. The IRS referred the case to the DoJ.

https://optimataxrelief.com/when-does-t ... be%20filed.
The IRS typically does not pursue criminal charges unless you exhibit a pattern of intentionally breaking tax laws. This can include non-filing, filing fraudulent returns, falsifying information on your return, not paying taxes, and more. The IRS statute of limitations could trigger charges to be filed. Currently, the IRS has six years from the return filing date to pursue criminal charges that related to failing to file and underreporting income.

If the IRS decides to open a case against you, they will refer it to the Department of Justice for prosecution. In order for the IRS to be successful in convicting someone for tax evasion, they must prove without reasonable doubt that the accused taxpayer (or nonpayer) acted in a deliberate and willful manner to avoid paying their taxes.


I remain astonished that the CA & DC US Attys did not allow Weiss to file charges for at least failure to file before the SOL ran for 2014 & 2015 tax years.

From the CBS report above :
"Because it had been denied, he informed us the government would not be bringing charges against Hunter Biden for the 2014-2015 tax years, for which the statute of limitations were set to expire in one month. All of our years of effort getting to the bottom of the massive amounts of foreign money Hunter Biden received from Burisma and others during that period would be for nothing."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/politics ... index.html
The IRS whistleblowers said the recommendation called for Hunter Biden to be charged with tax evasion and filing a false tax return – both felonies – for 2014, 2018 and 2019. The IRS also recommended that prosecutors charge him with failing to pay taxes on time, a misdemeanor, for 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019, according to the transcripts...
Great; so call Rettig and put him under oath in the House to explain the case they referred and what it did and did not include.

Why don't they call him?

One very plausible answer is that the facts of the case they referred is what Hunter was negotiating and tried to plead to... and there was no case involving Joe. Uhhh ohhh, that doesn't fit the scandal narrative...
Irrelevant smoke screen. It doesn't matter what Rettig thought anymore than what his WB agents thought. It's not their call. It's the DoJ's call.

...& whether or not they thought they had anything on Pop Joe is irrelevant to let the SOL run on HB's failure to file & pay for 2014-15.
Why did Weiss stop negotiating with the defense to extend the SOL ?
Nope, the right wing theory is that the IRS had clear evidence of lots of crimes...and Rettig would know what that was, including whether it involved Joe.

The House doesn't want to hear it.

On the SOL's, we'll find out when the Special Counsel does his report, but it looks to me like they had a plea agreement in the works and didn't need to prosecute everything...but we'll see. The point is that the IRS under Rettig are the ones crying foul.
So you think the IRS was willing to let HB get away without paying taxes for 2014-15, + penalties & interest ?
Again, call Rettig in...while you're at it, call Wray...and hey, call Barr...nope, you guys don't want to hear they've got nuthin on Joe.

Just Hunter.

The House GOP and right wing guys like you don't want to know about Hunter, you're all simply trying to get at Joe...and are scared of the testimony of those who would know they had nuthin..

And no, I don't think anyone's cool with Hunter not paying any and all taxes owed. But if they had a serious case, they should have brought it back in 2018, 2019, or 2020...or 2021, or 2022.

But I don't think any of the House GOP really cares a hoot about Hunter's problems, really...it's all smoke to smear Joe.

Tell us you really care... :roll:
Like people are stupid enough to believe that Old Salt is only concerned with Hunter Biden. None of those clowns care about Hunter Biden. They want to knee cap Joe headed into the next election cycle…..but Hillary “concocted the Dossier”….and a plan to disseminate it.
“I wish you would!”
User avatar
admin
Site Admin
Posts: 3032
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:20 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by admin »

ggait wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:36 pm False is false douche...
No personal attacks.
User avatar
cradleandshoot
Posts: 15571
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:42 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by cradleandshoot »

old salt wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:56 pm
ggait wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:20 pm
• Was the then-Vice President’s braggadocio about blackmailing the Ukranians into firing the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s corrupt company possibly a stronger breeze?"
Come on Tech. This one has been fact checked as false like a million times.

That breeze we feel is from the 10 thousandth swing/miss from propagandists trying to make false stuff true. But as Goebbels teaches, repeat a lie often enough and some people (perhaps you as one example) will start to believe it.

Could we maybe talk about something more fact based instead? Like aliens or Bigfoot sightings? What are your thoughts on the faked moon landings?

Our rating: False

Based on our research, the claim that Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine to save his son's job is FALSE. The then-vice president leveraged aid dollars to persuade the country to oust its top prosecutor as part of anti-corruption efforts endorsed by other international players that were unrelated to his son, Hunter Biden.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 991434002/
Did USA Today interview the Prosecutor that Biden insisted be fired ?
Odd how so much " fact checking" was done by USA Today. There might have been more credibility if the " fact checking" was done by TASS. :roll:
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
Bob Ross:
User avatar
youthathletics
Posts: 15965
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:36 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by youthathletics »

cradleandshoot wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 7:12 am
old salt wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:56 pm
ggait wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:20 pm
• Was the then-Vice President’s braggadocio about blackmailing the Ukranians into firing the prosecutor who was investigating his son’s corrupt company possibly a stronger breeze?"
Come on Tech. This one has been fact checked as false like a million times.

That breeze we feel is from the 10 thousandth swing/miss from propagandists trying to make false stuff true. But as Goebbels teaches, repeat a lie often enough and some people (perhaps you as one example) will start to believe it.

Could we maybe talk about something more fact based instead? Like aliens or Bigfoot sightings? What are your thoughts on the faked moon landings?

Our rating: False

Based on our research, the claim that Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine to save his son's job is FALSE. The then-vice president leveraged aid dollars to persuade the country to oust its top prosecutor as part of anti-corruption efforts endorsed by other international players that were unrelated to his son, Hunter Biden.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 991434002/
Did USA Today interview the Prosecutor that Biden insisted be fired ?
Odd how so much " fact checking" was done by USA Today. There might have been more credibility if the " fact checking" was done by TASS. :roll:
Even the fact chance questions is written to detour the reader....More Jimmy Hoffa 'union' style strong arm tactics.....meanwhile, in realville both can be true...rather than staging a 'false' based question.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy


“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
tech37
Posts: 4407
Joined: Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:02 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by tech37 »

MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:56 pm
Again, call Rettig in...while you're at it, call Wray...and hey, call Barr...nope, you guys don't want to hear they've got nuthin on Joe.

Just Hunter.
This is clearly the same impaired, arrogant, sort of thinking/narrative the Dems rode in 2016... "Hillary will never lose."
Typical Lax Dad
Posts: 34257
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:10 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by Typical Lax Dad »

tech37 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:56 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:56 pm
Again, call Rettig in...while you're at it, call Wray...and hey, call Barr...nope, you guys don't want to hear they've got nuthin on Joe.

Just Hunter.
This is clearly the same impaired, arrogant, sort of thinking/narrative the Dems rode in 2016... "Hillary will never lose."
You never know if Comey is going to put his thumb on the scale again.
“I wish you would!”
User avatar
MDlaxfan76
Posts: 27187
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:40 pm

Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by MDlaxfan76 »

tech37 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:56 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:56 pm
Again, call Rettig in...while you're at it, call Wray...and hey, call Barr...nope, you guys don't want to hear they've got nuthin on Joe.

Just Hunter.
This is clearly the same impaired, arrogant, sort of thinking/narrative the Dems rode in 2016... "Hillary will never lose."
Oh Joe can lose. The smear job, totally unsubstantiated, could work.

It's just amazing that people on here, nearly all of whom I consider rational people, are willing to buy into this garbage and yet defend Trump.

Do you agree that the House GOP is scared of what Rettig, Wray and Barr would testify under oath?
Post Reply

Return to “POLITICS”