Actually, no, I'm not.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 5:52 pmYou're saying this with your tongue in your cheek, right ?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:55 amnot at all. I quite agree that it's not ok, from any direction.tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:14 amHa... mdlax won't like those facts. Dampens his Aryan/White Nationalist rhetoric/narrative.old salt wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:34 am Hey MDLF76 -- you worried about political violence ? Look where the threat of violence is coming from.Estimated number of Americans who agree
the use of force is justified to...
RESTORE TRUMP TO PRESIDENCY ---------------- 6.9 % 18 Million
PREVENT TRUMP FROM BEING PRESIDENT----- 11.6 % 30 Million
Of course, it's all bad/unfortunate from both sides.
It's a big reaction to the expectation of violence from the right.
These folks are expecting to have to fight fascism.
But the numbers still skew at the extremes very much heavily to "great replacement theory", etc nutcases and those who think it's more important to have a "strong leader" than democracy...this is where the greatest threat to American pluralist democracy is coming from.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... nce-survey
There's been an enormous amount of "permission" for violent rhetoric and actual violent extremism on the hard right and endorsed or at least permitted by what we would assume are mainstream politicians...this has people, including rational people, quite concerned that there will be violence from the right in an effort to gain/maintain control no matter what the vote count says.
And full on fascism if that occurs.
So, I think that's what we're seeing in those numbers. The expectation that there will need to be violence to maintain democracy.
Of course, that would be a horrible prospect and should not be encouraged...but when folks see people buying AR-15's in large #'s and claiming they will "exercise the 2nd" on behalf of Donald Trump, when they see that rhetoric encouraged by front line politicians in the highest offices, both state and federal, (as opposed to extremist nut jobs on the fringes of society), when they see people claiming that they're preparing for "civil war" and a "race war", and when they see a large chunk of people claiming Donald Trump actually won the 2020 election and that violence is appropriate, and a smaller but sizable chunk claiming Donald Trump is actually "the Savior", then it's pretty darn rational to be worried.