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lorin wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:14 am
TheGoat1999 wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:38 pm Another departure, in John McCurry from NAPS to Delaware.

Liam Gregorek flip from Navy to Hop is very interesting. His younger brother (Gavin) was on the 2023 Navy Lax Team. I bet the younger brother had a lot to do with the flip. The Navy Staff was very vocal with Gavin in a negative way, let's see what happens in the fall.
So is younger brother in HS is older then the one in college Did more Gavin get yelled at. you sound uninformed when you speak about things you have no full knowledge of. Maybe he got a nice deal to move NIl $$$$
Gavin HS grad 2020. Liam HS grad 2024, headed to Hopkins.

Gavin is a rising Jr., DM. Played in 3 games in '22, 2 games in 23. Based on number of games played, he's the 4th or 5th most experienced returning DM. He looked promising. Scored 1 goal on 1 shot in '23.
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old salt wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:01 am
lorin wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:14 am
TheGoat1999 wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:38 pm Another departure, in John McCurry from NAPS to Delaware.

Liam Gregorek flip from Navy to Hop is very interesting. His younger brother (Gavin) was on the 2023 Navy Lax Team. I bet the younger brother had a lot to do with the flip. The Navy Staff was very vocal with Gavin in a negative way, let's see what happens in the fall.
So is younger brother in HS is older then the one in college Did more Gavin get yelled at. you sound uninformed when you speak about things you have no full knowledge of. Maybe he got a nice deal to move NIl $$$$
Gavin HS grad 2020. Liam HS grad 2024, headed to Hopkins.

Gavin is a rising Jr., DM. Played in 3 games in '22, 2 games in 23. Based on number of games played, he's the 4th or 5th most experienced returning DM. He looked promising. Scored 1 goal on 1 shot in '23.
Made note of this back in Nov 22'......there was, and still is a 'logjam' at DM. search.php?keywords=logjam&t=3628&sf=msgonly
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:51 am
old salt wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:01 am
lorin wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:14 am
TheGoat1999 wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:38 pm Another departure, in John McCurry from NAPS to Delaware.

Liam Gregorek flip from Navy to Hop is very interesting. His younger brother (Gavin) was on the 2023 Navy Lax Team. I bet the younger brother had a lot to do with the flip. The Navy Staff was very vocal with Gavin in a negative way, let's see what happens in the fall.
So is younger brother in HS is older then the one in college Did more Gavin get yelled at. you sound uninformed when you speak about things you have no full knowledge of. Maybe he got a nice deal to move NIl $$$$
Gavin HS grad 2020. Liam HS grad 2024, headed to Hopkins.

Gavin is a rising Jr., DM. Played in 3 games in '22, 2 games in 23. Based on number of games played, he's the 4th or 5th most experienced returning DM. He looked promising. Scored 1 goal on 1 shot in '23.
Made note of this back in Nov 22'......there was, and still is a 'logjam' at DM. search.php?keywords=logjam&t=3628&sf=msgonly
Looks like less of a DM logjam going into this season. Last year they went with 4 regular DM's -- 47, 26, 66, 67.
47's graduated. 67 did not play in the last 2 games. Hope he's healthy & returning. He's from down in your neck of the woods.
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old salt wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:04 am
youthathletics wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:51 am
old salt wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:01 am
lorin wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:14 am
TheGoat1999 wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:38 pm Another departure, in John McCurry from NAPS to Delaware.

Liam Gregorek flip from Navy to Hop is very interesting. His younger brother (Gavin) was on the 2023 Navy Lax Team. I bet the younger brother had a lot to do with the flip. The Navy Staff was very vocal with Gavin in a negative way, let's see what happens in the fall.
So is younger brother in HS is older then the one in college Did more Gavin get yelled at. you sound uninformed when you speak about things you have no full knowledge of. Maybe he got a nice deal to move NIl $$$$
Gavin HS grad 2020. Liam HS grad 2024, headed to Hopkins.

Gavin is a rising Jr., DM. Played in 3 games in '22, 2 games in 23. Based on number of games played, he's the 4th or 5th most experienced returning DM. He looked promising. Scored 1 goal on 1 shot in '23.
Made note of this back in Nov 22'......there was, and still is a 'logjam' at DM. search.php?keywords=logjam&t=3628&sf=msgonly
Looks like less of a DM logjam going into this season. Last year they went with 4 regular DM's -- 47, 26, 66, 67.
47's graduated. 67 did not play in the last 2 games. Hope he's healthy & returning. He's from down in your neck of the woods.
4 seems to be the magic number for many programs, which means it can be a challenging spot to get game minutes when there is depth....just have to wait your turn.
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:11 am
old salt wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:04 am
youthathletics wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:51 am
old salt wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:01 am
lorin wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:14 am
TheGoat1999 wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:38 pm Another departure, in John McCurry from NAPS to Delaware.

Liam Gregorek flip from Navy to Hop is very interesting. His younger brother (Gavin) was on the 2023 Navy Lax Team. I bet the younger brother had a lot to do with the flip. The Navy Staff was very vocal with Gavin in a negative way, let's see what happens in the fall.
So is younger brother in HS is older then the one in college Did more Gavin get yelled at. you sound uninformed when you speak about things you have no full knowledge of. Maybe he got a nice deal to move NIl $$$$
Gavin HS grad 2020. Liam HS grad 2024, headed to Hopkins.

Gavin is a rising Jr., DM. Played in 3 games in '22, 2 games in 23. Based on number of games played, he's the 4th or 5th most experienced returning DM. He looked promising. Scored 1 goal on 1 shot in '23.
Made note of this back in Nov 22'......there was, and still is a 'logjam' at DM. search.php?keywords=logjam&t=3628&sf=msgonly
Looks like less of a DM logjam going into this season. Last year they went with 4 regular DM's -- 47, 26, 66, 67.
47's graduated. 67 did not play in the last 2 games. Hope he's healthy & returning. He's from down in your neck of the woods.
4 seems to be the magic number for many programs, which means it can be a challenging spot to get game minutes when there is depth....just have to wait your turn.
4 is good. Especially if you rotate 2 at FO wing in a high scoring game.
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Xavier Arline's prospects going into the FB opener vs ND on Aug 26 in Dublin.
Likely to play as #3 QB in a special situational package. Maybe some slotback.
I like the fact that he'll take less of a pounding than he would as the QB starter,
increasing the chances he'll be healthy for lax in the spring.

https://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/n ... story.html

Navy football likely to use two quarterbacks in season opener against Notre Dame
By Bill Wagner, Capital Gazette, Aug 14, 2023

Navy’s quarterback competition is now a two horse race with senior Tai Lavatai and sophomore Blake Horvath battling for the starting job.
Coach Brian Newberry said after Saturday’s public practice at Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium that Horvath and Lavatai are “1A and 1B” going into the final two weeks of preseason practice.
Newberry may wait until a day or two before the Aug. 26 opener against Notre Dame in Dublin to settle on a starter.
He also noted that senior Xavier Arline is still in the mix and could be utilized in a variety of ways.
“You want to feel good about two or three guys and we do. I like where we’re at with the quarterback position,” Newberry said.


Offensive coordinator Grant Chesnut expounded even more on the competition and said the plan at this point is to use both Lavatai and Horvath against Notre Dame.
“I would expect to be playing two quarterbacks. I don’t mind saying that publicly right now,” Chesnut said Saturday. “I feel like both of those guys are progressing in a good direction and I think at the moment they can both help our football team. As to who winds up starting, we’re still battling that out.”

During a Zoom media session earlier this week, quarterbacks coach Ivin Jasper said Horvath has made great strides during summer training camp and “turned a lot of heads.” Coming out of spring practice, Jasper challenged the youngster to become a better passer and he has responded.
“Blake has improved throwing the football. From an option standpoint, he’s a technician and runs it very well. He’s faster than what you think he is and can get out on the perimeter pretty quickly,“ Jasper said. “His biggest thing is making decisions in the passing game. As of right now, that’s a little bit gray because he’s still making some bad decisions.”
Jasper made it clear that if Horvath will be ready to operate the offense if he’s called upon to start the opener.
“He probably wants to prove people wrong who think he’s too green to be in that situation,” Jasper said.

Meanwhile, Lavatai has fully recovered from a knee injury sustained against Temple on Oct. 29. He underwent surgery a few weeks later then endured a rigorous rehabilitation process. Jasper has praised Lavatai for quickly shedding weight he gained while recovering from the surgery.
“I’m very pleased with Tai from a standpoint that he’s been running around very well, changing direction very well. He’s looking like his old self,” Jasper said. “He’s a very polished thrower and option-wise he’s a very solid technician as far as operating the offense.”

Jasper said Arline is the most dangerous runner among the quarterbacks. The 5-foot-9, 183-pounder brings a combination of speed, quickness and moves along with an ability to make defenders miss.
“X has played a lot of football and is a really great athlete. We’ve talked about having a special package we can do with him to get him on the football field,” Jasper said.
Newberry said Saturday that Arline may begin taking practice repetitions at slotback and could see some action at that position as well.
“X doesn’t want to spend his entire senior season watching. We have to find a way to get him on the field and the ball in his hands because he’s a great athlete and a great runner. We have to take advantage of that. We can’t waste that,” Jasper said.


Sophomore Teddy Gleaton, who emerged from spring camp as the starter, has fallen behind as a result of not being able to practice during the week while attending summer school classes. The Waldorf native and North Point High product has been practicing on Saturdays and will return full-time later this week when Navy moves practices to the afternoon after the fall semester begins.
Jasper said Gleaton will be given every opportunity to get back into the mix.
“Teddy should be back next week. We’ll get him right in there, get him going and get him back up to speed,” Jasper said. “Hopefully, he’s not in too rough a shape. It’s such a long season and the key is to have depth at the position.”

Horvath said last week the quarterback battle, which also includes freshman Braxton Woodson, has been friendly. Every member of the unit is focused on the ultimate goal of winning, which means making sure whoever lines up under center is well prepared.
Horvath spent his plebe campaign running the scout team offense and playing in junior varsity games. The Ohio native admitted he never imagined being the starting quarterback to start the 2023 season.
“If you had told me a year ago today that I would be in this position I may not have believed you,” he said. “This fall camp has been a new experience than last year as a plebe. All eyes are on you. You have the ball in your hands every play and you have to operate at a really high level — make the right read, make the right play every time. I’ve got to get used to that and be a more consistent player overall.”
Horvath agreed with Jasper that he’s come a long way as far as understanding and executing the offense. He has a better grasp of the concepts as far as what Navy wants to accomplish and how certain formations and motions affect the defense. He acknowledged still needing to improve in the passing game.
“Just being able to make the right decisions quickly and getting the ball where it needs to go. I’m getting better, but there’s always room to grow there,” he said.
Horvath is grateful to have Arline and Lavatai as mentors. Lavatai has started all 18 games in which he has played, while Arline has played in 21 career games with nine starts.
“I think it comes down to learning what being the quarterback really means and how you have to act off the field. Being in the training room, being in the weight room. Being a leader everywhere. They’ve taught me how to go about my business on and off the field,” Horvath said.

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Two lacrosse commits, one each from Loyola and ND, flip to USNA and its FB team.
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OCanada wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:14 am Two lacrosse commits, one each from Loyola and ND, flip to USNA and its FB team.
Thanks, interesting.....do you have a cite?
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Capital Gazette in Annapolis. 2 Anns Arundel County players
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 1:19 pm
OCanada wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:14 am Two lacrosse commits, one each from Loyola and ND, flip to USNA and its FB team.
Thanks, interesting.....do you have a cite?
Maybe the increased specialization for FOGO's in D1 lax vs HS was a factor for the FOGO.
If they don't play a lot of FB, maybe they'll miss lax & find their way back.
https://www.capitalgazette.com/sports/h ... story.html

Pair of D-I lacrosse commits from Broadneck, St. Mary’s switch gears to join Navy football
By Katherine Fominykh, Capital Gazette, Aug 20, 2023

St. Mary's senior Teddy Androus and Broadneck senior Eli Harris both recently made the switch from Division I lacrosse commits to Navy football.

Teddy Androus committed to play at one of the best lacrosse teams in the country and felt unsettled.
Growing up in Annapolis, the St. Mary’s multi-sport athlete picked up a lacrosse stick as a toddler. His skill and dedication earned him an offer from Notre Dame, which Androus, a faceoff specialist, verbally accepted before his junior year, even before the Fighting Irish won the 2023 national championship. That should’ve been his story, similar to so many talented, lifelong lacrosse players who roam Anne Arundel County.
But Androus’ story was always going to diverge after the fall of his freshman season, when he stepped onto Pascal Field and made the football team.
“I felt a feeling that I never felt in lacrosse, with football,” Androus said. “It’s a different culture, different play style, and I loved it.”
After his junior season as an outside linebacker, Androus sat down with his parents to discuss his truth. He had given so much to lacrosse, he said, dedicated his life to it. He wanted to see how far he could take it, and he took to the summit few ever reach. But he could not see himself playing lacrosse for the next four years, even if he loved it. He never lost interest, Androus said. Football “blew him away.”
Androus professed his new love when he committed to Navy football on June 28.
“Something inside of me, that seed that was planted freshman year, it really blossomed,” Androus said. “That’s what I wanted to do. As much as I’m feeling weird leaving lacrosse behind, the excitement that I’m playing football for the next four years, doing the sport I love most, is completely overwhelming and unbelievable.”

The St. Mary’s rising senior is one of two Anne Arundel athletes to recently make that uncommon switch. Eli Harris, a rising senior at Broadneck, originally committed to Loyola Maryland men’s lacrosse before decommitting to pledge himself to Navy football this summer, too.
But unlike Androus, football is an old family friend for Harris. His father, Rob Harris, coached Broadneck since his son’s birth. He’d send team managers to pick up Eli from elementary school, and he’d toddle over to watch football practice.
“We always thought it was destined that he was going to play football,” Rob Harris said. “But at the same time, we wanted it to be his journey.”
Like so many kids his age, Eli picked up a lacrosse stick early, too.

Maryland, Anne Arundel County especially, is bound to lacrosse. It supplies most of the nation’s adult lacrosse players and coaches. The Annapolis Hawks, the lacrosse club both Androus and Eli Harris compete with, is one of many acclaimed programs within county borders and captured 16 championships across its classes in one summer alone.
The question of whether football is making a run on lacrosse for Anne Arundel’s premier boys sport can’t be answered by two flipped athletes, even if the area does seem awash in Division I, potential NFL-caliber players as of late. As it stands, there are scores of Division I, III and III lacrosse commits pouring out of Anne Arundel every year, and that’s not going to change. Lacrosse recruiting typically predates football, too, said Eli Harris, a wideout and defensive midfielder.
“Schools start reaching out, and that’s where all the [scholarship] money is,” Harris said. “If you wait later, you’re not going to have it. So, I could jump, knowing that if I didn’t want to leave, cool. It was always open. It was always 50/50 in my mind.”

Rob Harris said he didn’t want to sway his son either way. His two daughters, Brianna and Kayla Harris, were lacrosse stars at Florida and Navy, respectively. When Navy came to court Eli, his father recalled the excitement that rippled through him at the thought of following his sister’s path in service, a decision Kayla said she would pick again if given the choice.
Harris earned All-County honorable mention in lacrosse with 55 ground balls as a junior. In June, Rob and Eli joined the Midshipmen on a group visit alongside 40 other recruits. During lunch, three names were instructed to the practice field, where first-year coach Brian Newberry offered Eli a scholarship on the spot.
They want to keep him as a wide receiver, the rising senior said, running the outside just as he does now for his Bruins. He earned All-County first team honors as a junior with 62 catches for 1,068 yards and 11 touchdowns.
After committing in July, all that kept Harris off the path to college football was getting his forms in line for the Naval Academy. There will be no prep school for him.
“I did love lacrosse. I did. But once I had the opportunity, it’s just unbeatable,” Eli Harris said. “Navy football, having a job out of college, and having Teddy — he’s such a great guy, such an asset and just a great human in general — it was super relieving. I can just come in there and just play.”

St. Mary’s was always a lacrosse school first. The best lacrosse players nearly always played football, too, leading the Saints to three Maryland Interscholastic Athletic Association B Conference titles in eight years. “Not often” did that sway them off the path to lacrosse in college, football coach Jason Budroni said.
When he met Androus as a freshman, the coach couldn’t believe this was his first try at football. The newbie caught on quickly, Budroni said, already possessing a crafty football IQ, a speedy downhill style and the right aggression before long.
“Last season, he just kind of grew up,” Budroni said. “And he just loves playing. He’s the easy, typical linebacker, a strong and tough kid. This all fits his personality.”
The 6-foot-1, 205-pound Androus made the All-County second team defense after finishing second on the team in total tackles (101) with five sacks, eight tackles for loss and four forced fumbles. In the winter, his Notre Dame lacrosse commitment in hand, Androus confessed to Budroni he wanted to be a football player after all. Not wanting to rock his sure thing in South Bend, Indiana, Budroni went about sending his name out carefully.
Androus remembers “vividly” the day Holy Cross came in to talk. Then Dartmouth and a few other Ivy League schools, too. Then Navy. Confidence flowered in Androus then. A serious football program saw something in him, and he wouldn’t have to sacrifice his dedication to academics for it. As a bonus, he could fulfill his dream of serving his country, Androus said. His future teammate, Xavier Arline, balances both football and lacrosse as a midshipman, but that’s not a path Androus intends to take.
“This is the feeling I wanted. When I was committed for lacrosse, I wish I could say I was relaxed, that I was fully happy with my choice. The fact is, I still had love for football,” Androus said. “I even talked about walking on at Notre Dame to keep that football dream alive. But now I have it. And I’m locked in.”
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Sigh. Navy not in the pre-season top 27. Army ranked 8th.

Yes, pre-season rankings may not mean much but c’mon.
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Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:52 pm Sigh. Navy not in the pre-season top 27. Army ranked 8th.

Yes, pre-season rankings may not mean much but c’mon.
Not surprised and about right. They have much to prove, especially after their top F/O guy rolls out.
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Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:52 pm Sigh. Navy not in the pre-season top 27. Army ranked 8th.

Yes, pre-season rankings may not mean much but c’mon.
Where do you think they should be ranked or not?
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Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:52 pm Sigh. Navy not in the pre-season top 27. Army ranked 8th.

Yes, pre-season rankings may not mean much but c’mon.
Agree Navy rank to high, lol
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Turnandrake wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:21 pm
Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:52 pm Sigh. Navy not in the pre-season top 27. Army ranked 8th.

Yes, pre-season rankings may not mean much but c’mon.
Where do you think they should be ranked or not?
It is not that I think they should be ranked or not ranked based on their expected on field performance. I will leave that to the “experts”.

It is that I think they should be ranked, in general, based on their recruiting, culture, facilities (existing and being developed) and recruiting base.

It is just another bad trend that they have obviously earned.
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Dip&Dunk wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:16 am
Turnandrake wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 9:21 pm
Dip&Dunk wrote: Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:52 pm Sigh. Navy not in the pre-season top 27. Army ranked 8th.

Yes, pre-season rankings may not mean much but c’mon.
Where do you think they should be ranked or not?
It is not that I think they should be ranked or not ranked based on their expected on field performance. I will leave that to the “experts”.

It is that I think they should be ranked, in general, based on their recruiting, culture, facilities (existing and being developed) and recruiting base.

It is just another bad trend that they have obviously earned.
All roads lead back 'scheme', been saying this for close to 10 years now. We have tunnel vision and want to bang a square peg through a round hole, then when we don't get what we expect, we blame the players ....insanity. We recruit players that play with flare, IQ, etc....then throw in the same stuff the staff was taught when taught from 1990 and they check out and/or are forced into submission. I will add, Wellner had vision and taught more aggressive defense with higher pressure and pushing transition. Phipps tried and tinkered and was overruled, Spencer Parks pushed the players to just do it but they just could not undermine the HC, Ross showed promise but then it ran dry for some reason, as if he was limited by depth or overruled b/c their defense and offense were out of synch.
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That preseason poll says as much about the PL as it does Navy.
Army, Loyola & BU, the only ranked teams, all have key returning 5th year players.
Even Lehigh was unranked & their Coach just bailed.
This will be the final season for the 2020 freshmen covid 5th year players.
Phipps was the OC for the 2 best teams of the Sowell era -- 2015 & '16.
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old salt wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:49 am Phipps was the OC for the 2 best teams of the Sowell era -- 2015 & '16.
9.6 and 9.7 g/gm avg. still is not saying much.

2019 10.6
2020 cv19 hit @ 11.8 in the abbreviated 5 game season
2021 in another abbreviated 9 game season we went to 10.7

I'd counter that the 15 and 16 benefitted from goaltending, F/O of Dove and a defense that pushed transition. Remember, the defense at that time had a motto of 'send it'.
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old salt wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:49 am That preseason poll says as much about the PL as it does Navy.
Army, Loyola & BU, the only ranked teams, all have key returning 5th year players.
Even Lehigh was unranked & their Coach just bailed.
This will be the final season for the 2020 freshmen covid 5th year players.
Phipps was the OC for the 2 best teams of the Sowell era -- 2015 & '16

No 5th years at army
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Turnandrake wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:59 pm
old salt wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 10:49 am That preseason poll says as much about the PL as it does Navy.
Army, Loyola & BU, the only ranked teams, all have key returning 5th year players.
Even Lehigh was unranked & their Coach just bailed.
This will be the final season for the 2020 freshmen covid 5th year players.
Phipps was the OC for the 2 best teams of the Sowell era -- 2015 & '16
No 5th years at army
They had several key players who "turned back" & will get a 5th yr.

Here's one of their leading scorers. Listed as a Jr on the '23 roster.
https://goarmywestpoint.com/sports/mens ... nson/20055
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