Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

[Typical Lax Dad]

I see Weiss is now withdrawing the tax charges charges in DE. Smells like new charges will be coming in DC and CA. Ruh roh Hunter.

GOP should be happy AF with this new twist. Of course, they'll spin it as more Illuminati cover up for the BCF.

Count on it.

And to be clear, I'm totally fine with whatever the career DOJ-ers eventually do with HB.

That were appointed by Trump.

Isn't that weird, Ggait? How come we're not claiming "conspiracy" when the DoJ lawyers involved were appointed by Trump?

We need to get our acts together, and get with the program.

Weiss gets to dig for another five years. Whatever works. Protip: if you're the child of a politician and you don't file your taxes for two freaking years, expect rough waters. If you're John Q Public and don't file, expect the IRS to be mad and make you pay your taxes, plus interest, and then case closed.

Fixed it for you.

Totally true. I'd amend that to add: 1%ers We watched how we were treated in the American judicial system vs. how employees without assets and education were treated. It's two systems. As I said before....whoever the guy was who paid Hunter's back taxes? Gross. Disgusting corruption.

I will say that I'd expect that given the fact that Weiss is now in the spotlight, and he now has a second crack at Hunter (pardon the pun)?

....mess with the bull, and you'll get the horns. I'd imagine Weiss will throw everything he can at Hunter.

The Hunter saga is simply mind boggling. Look at what he tried to get away with. This lays it out in detail :
https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-hunt ... urt-trial/

...& he still has not paid anything out of his own pocket. His past tax liability (including penalties) & child support is being covered by an unsecured loan from a political crony in which he has yet to make a payment. Yet Weiss was going to let him walk on a misdemeanor plea.
We're supposed to sympathize because he's an addict ? He's been to rehab 6 times.

...& Papadop served 12 days in Fed lockup (& went broke from legal fees) because he flubbed the dates he met with Mifsud when ambushed by the FBI at the airport.

Is Weiss going to be able to file those charges in DC & CA before the SOL runs, or is this just more slow rolling like for the 2014 & 2015 taxes that will never be recouped ?

How can Hunter fight this at trial ? What's his defense ?

The Deep State is out to get him?

[old salt]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/08/ ... is-a-joke/

The Hunter Biden Investigation Is a Joke

By THE EDITORS, August 12, 2023

The man who has slow-walked and botched the Hunter Biden investigation has now been named the special counsel in the Hunter Biden investigation.

Delaware U.S. attorney David Weiss, who has done everything you’d expect of a prosecutor trying to make a politically inconvenient case go away, is now supposed to play the part of the independent investigator, even though he’s still working for a Biden Justice Department that obviously has a conflict investigating the Biden family’s sleazy business dealings. This wasn’t the plan, but with House investigators and an inquisitive trial judge in Delaware taking a harder look at the investigation, it was no longer defensible to pretend that no special counsel was needed.

Weiss is often identified as a Trump appointee although Delaware, as a deep-blue state with two Democratic senators, doesn’t get many right-wing prosecutors and the Biden administration asked Weiss to stay on when it took over. The outrages that the IRS whistleblowers have credibly recounted took place on Weiss’s watch, and he tried to deflect the scrutiny of the House committee away from the DOJ. He was also responsible for the highly irregular, extremely generous plea agreement with Hunter Biden that blew up on its first contact with a judge. He has now suggested that he may try to bring his case to a different venue.

Weiss has spent five years on the Hunter probe, and all he had to show for it was an indefensible plea deal on a couple of misdemeanor tax charges. Meanwhile, as the clock has ticked, the statute of limitations has begun to lapse on a crucial period of Hunter’s overseas “work.”

Either Merrick Garland is showing a hitherto unknown wicked sense of humor in naming Weiss, or — more likely — it’s another instance of the plodding partisan hackery that has characterized his tenure as attorney general. If a special counsel is necessary now, it was necessary two and half years ago, and the regulations stipulate that it should be someone outside of government, not the very prosecutor who has become a symbol of the government’s conflicted conduct of the investigation.

The old Soviet joke was that you pretend to work, and we’ll pretend to pay you. In this case, the Biden administration was pretending to investigate, and now it’s pretending to be independent.

[old salt]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/08/ ... is-a-joke/

The Hunter Biden Investigation Is a Joke

By THE EDITORS, August 12, 2023

The man who has slow-walked and botched the Hunter Biden investigation has now been named the special counsel in the Hunter Biden investigation.

Delaware U.S. attorney David Weiss, who has done everything you’d expect of a prosecutor trying to make a politically inconvenient case go away, is now supposed to play the part of the independent investigator, even though he’s still working for a Biden Justice Department that obviously has a conflict investigating the Biden family’s sleazy business dealings. This wasn’t the plan, but with House investigators and an inquisitive trial judge in Delaware taking a harder look at the investigation, it was no longer defensible to pretend that no special counsel was needed.

Weiss is often identified as a Trump appointee although Delaware, as a deep-blue state with two Democratic senators, doesn’t get many right-wing prosecutors and the Biden administration asked Weiss to stay on when it took over. The outrages that the IRS whistleblowers have credibly recounted took place on Weiss’s watch, and he tried to deflect the scrutiny of the House committee away from the DOJ. He was also responsible for the highly irregular, extremely generous plea agreement with Hunter Biden that blew up on its first contact with a judge. He has now suggested that he may try to bring his case to a different venue.

Weiss has spent five years on the Hunter probe, and all he had to show for it was an indefensible plea deal on a couple of misdemeanor tax charges. Meanwhile, as the clock has ticked, the statute of limitations has begun to lapse on a crucial period of Hunter’s overseas “work.”

Either Merrick Garland is showing a hitherto unknown wicked sense of humor in naming Weiss, or — more likely — it’s another instance of the plodding partisan hackery that has characterized his tenure as attorney general. If a special counsel is necessary now, it was necessary two and half years ago, and the regulations stipulate that it should be someone outside of government, not the very prosecutor who has become a symbol of the government’s conflicted conduct of the investigation.

The old Soviet joke was that you pretend to work, and we’ll pretend to pay you. In this case, the Biden administration was pretending to investigate, and now it’s pretending to be independent.

[old salt]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 338937007/

Wesley Snipes went to jail for tax evasion

The famed actor... was convicted of three misdemeanor counts in 2008 for failing to file tax returns from 1999 to 2001.

He owed the government about $7 million in unpaid taxes after accepting the arguments of his two co-defendants, an accountant and an anti-tax ideologue.

At the time, Snipes argued the IRS was an illegitimate government agency and cited an obscure section of the tax code that establishes that foreign sources of income for U.S. citizens are taxable. He also claimed he was a non-resident alien. Snipes was born in the U.S. in 1962, however.

Snipes eventually lost an appeal for a retrial in 2010, which resulted in him serving nearly three years at a McKean Federal Correctional Institution in Pennsylvania.

[a fan]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 338937007/

Wesley Snipes went to jail for tax evasion

Did you spot the difference?

[a fan]

The old Soviet joke was that you pretend to work, and we’ll pretend to pay you. In this case, the Biden administration was pretending to investigate, and now it’s pretending to be independent.

The National Review is, as usual, lying. This was a Trump admin. operation from start to finish. Still is.

Weiss is a Trump appointee. And Barr was the man who put Weiss in charge, by splitting merging the IRS and DoJ cases by HIS order, and splitting where the work was done, instead of keeping it in DC, as the IRS whistleblowers pursue.

This is where the TinFoil comes in, OS: these are all Trump's people running the show. The IRS, the FBI, and DoJ. All of them were Trump appointees.

It is factually incorrect to lay this at Joe Biden's feet, OS.

If you want to blame them for corruption? That's fine, I have no quarrel. But it's factually incorrect to label these men as "Joe Biden's crew". Nope. Total lie by RighWingMedia to spoon feed their clickbait BS.

[Brooklyn]

The National Review is, as usual, lying.

They always do and have about as much credibility as Faux which is paying $700+ million for its lies against Dominion.

[old salt]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 338937007/

Wesley Snipes went to jail for tax evasion

Did you spot the difference?

Hunter is circumcised ?

[old salt]

The old Soviet joke was that you pretend to work, and we’ll pretend to pay you. In this case, the Biden administration was pretending to investigate, and now it’s pretending to be independent.

The National Review is, as usual, lying. This was a Trump admin. operation from start to finish. Still is.

Weiss is a Trump appointee. And Barr was the man who put Weiss in charge, by splitting merging the IRS and DoJ cases by HIS order, and splitting where the work was done, instead of keeping it in DC, as the IRS whistleblowers pursue.

This is where the TinFoil comes in, OS: these are all Trump's people running the show. The IRS, the FBI, and DoJ. All of them were Trump appointees.

It is factually incorrect to lay this at Joe Biden's feet, OS.

If you want to blame them for corruption? That's fine, I have no quarrel. But it's factually incorrect to label these men as "Joe Biden's crew". Nope. Total lie by RighWingMedia to spoon feed their clickbait BS.

You can only hide behind the Trump appointee canard for so long. Weiss was on the Hunter investigation as part of the Biden Admin DoJ longer than he was as a member of the Trump Admin DoJ. The SOLs were allowed to expire under the Biden Admin DoJ.

More evidence was turning up the whole time. The laptop stuff couldn't be used until it was corroborated by another source, like the other end of the emails. They had Tony Bobulinski but it took time to get Archer & Hunter's other partners & associates. The FD 2023 had to be verified. It was the Biden DoJ that denied the search warrant for Hunter's guest house residence & tipped off his attorneys of a pending search of his storage unit. It took time to get financial records, like Rob Walker's bank records that the House now has.

It's a pathetic dodge to blame the time it has taken on Barr & a weak excuse to be willfully blind & to ignore everything that took place under the Biden DoJ. Maybe Barr just didn't feel like they had a solid enough case yet by the time he left office.

How 'bout providing a source that I can read that explains your theories about what Barr did to bury or delay the Hunter investigation.
What are you reading that lays the failure to investigate Hunter at the feet of Barr ? I'd like to read it too ?

[Seacoaster(1)]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 338937007/

Wesley Snipes went to jail for tax evasion

Did you spot the difference?

You mean “differences.” There are several.

But an article pretty much based on the opinion of Byron Donalds, MAGA toady, seems pretty authoritative.

[Kismet]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 338937007/

Wesley Snipes went to jail for tax evasion

Did you spot the difference?

You mean “differences.” There are several.

But an article pretty much based on the opinion of Byron Donalds, MAGA toady, seems pretty authoritative.

Old Saltine is NEVER going to be happy or satisfied until Hunter gets convicted and goes to jail. Of course, his standard for Fatso Cheato is totally different and more facts are needed.
That's how the cracker crumbles, you know

[MDlaxfan76]

The old Soviet joke was that you pretend to work, and we’ll pretend to pay you. In this case, the Biden administration was pretending to investigate, and now it’s pretending to be independent.

The National Review is, as usual, lying. This was a Trump admin. operation from start to finish. Still is.

Weiss is a Trump appointee. And Barr was the man who put Weiss in charge, by splitting merging the IRS and DoJ cases by HIS order, and splitting where the work was done, instead of keeping it in DC, as the IRS whistleblowers pursue.

This is where the TinFoil comes in, OS: these are all Trump's people running the show. The IRS, the FBI, and DoJ. All of them were Trump appointees.

It is factually incorrect to lay this at Joe Biden's feet, OS.

If you want to blame them for corruption? That's fine, I have no quarrel. But it's factually incorrect to label these men as "Joe Biden's crew". Nope. Total lie by RighWingMedia to spoon feed their clickbait BS.

You can only hide behind the Trump appointee canard for so long. Weiss was on the Hunter investigation as part of the Biden Admin DoJ longer than he was as a member of the Trump Admin DoJ. The SOLs were allowed to expire under the Biden Admin DoJ.

More evidence was turning up the whole time. The laptop stuff couldn't be used until it was corroborated by another source, like the other end of the emails. They had Tony Bobulinski but it took time to get Archer & Hunter's other partners & associates. The FD 2023 had to be verified. It was the Biden DoJ that denied the search warrant for Hunter's guest house residence & tipped off his attorneys of a pending search of his storage unit. It took time to get financial records, like Rob Walker's bank records that the House now has.

It's a pathetic dodge to blame the time it has taken on Barr & a weak excuse to be willfully blind & to ignore everything that took place under the Biden DoJ. Maybe Barr just didn't feel like they had a solid enough case yet by the time he left office.

How 'bout providing a source that I can read that explains your theories about what Barr did to bury or delay the Hunter investigation.
What are you reading that lays the failure to investigate Hunter at the feet of Barr ? I'd like to read it too ?

no, an "objective reading" of a fan would be the claim that Barr is "in on it", too. The IRS agents said that the investigation was being slow walked during Barr's tenure, they thought there was enough to prosecute at that point...they also think it's been slow walked since then.

Which means that Barr is "in on it", the slow walking...you know, actually having a provable case before prosecuting. Don't indict until you're fully convinced that a jury will be convinced to convict unanimously. In that respect, Barr probably was "in on it"...

The question is why we would think that "the Biden DOJ" is any more nefarious than the same careful decision making process? They left the US Attorney appointed by the former guy on the case to continue it, they said they'd be hands off, US Attorney has said they've been hands off...and that he's been able to exercise his judgment.

And Weiss was willing to accept a plea deal that limited the outcome...but IMO he either reneged on what had been communicated, given all the pressure he was feeling from the right in Congress...OR...they never actually had the deal locked down as tight as everyone was assuming...which is a big problem of lawyering on both sides...how was this not in writing, clear as a bell? Seems to me the first possibility is quite plausible and perhaps the deal was plenty clear before the judge started pushing the issue and exposing that the deal was supposed to conclude all matters versus just some. And that had become a hot potato...but then, Hunter's side apparently agreed to accept the lesser deal...and the only sticking point was who to trust to decide that Hunter had or had not abided by his probation.

But I dunno...neither does anyone else on here.

Meanwhile a firestorm kicked up by MAGA in Congress, claiming that the "Biden DOJ" has "interfered, has brought all sorts of politics into the process, necessitating AG Garland to agree to appoint Weiss a Special Prosecutor, formally insulating him from such specious claims.

And from Hunter's side, the MAGA firestorm only made more clear how crucial it is for him to not be subject to MAGA "retribution". Personally, I'd have zero trust in a future Trump DOJ if I was in Hunter's shoes...they've already made clear that career prosecutors will be out, and partisan storm troopers will come in, "throats will be cut"...this won't be a Barr taking the job, at best it'll be a Jeffrey Clark type, willing to do any bidding from Der Leader...who actually thinks the DOJ should be used as a personal weapon...

But hey, get Barr and Wray in there before Congress to explain why they "slow-walked" the investigation and prosecution decisions...pretty sure their answer will be the same as would be anyone now...being careful and methodical is not nefarious, nor are partisan, unfounded, spurious claims of such proof that crimes have actually been committed and covered up for political purposes. Could simply be that there isn't proof of crimes of the sort being claimed at all...

But here's what I want to know...why the heck the IRS agents haven't brought a case forward on Trump's decades of tax evasion???

sure looks a whole lot more clear cut than that Joe Biden took bribes through Hunter...!!

[njbill]

Should Clarence Thomas go to jail for tax evasion? Seems to me that his crimes are a lot more serious than Hunter’s. After all, he is a Supreme Court Justice while Hunter is simply a private citizen.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 338937007/

Wesley Snipes went to jail for tax evasion

Did you spot the difference?

Hunter is circumcised ?

How can you tell the difference when your eyes are closed?

[MDlaxfan76]

Should Clarence Thomas go to jail for tax evasion? Seems to me that his crimes are a lot more serious than Hunter’s. After all, he is a Supreme Court Justice while Hunter is simply a private citizen.

well, maybe not "simply"...

Seriously, anyone know how gifts of trips and vacations and flights etc should get reported on tax returns?

It's certainly never occurred to me that if I visit a friend in Maine or in Colorado for a long weekend or week at their home, or second home, or accepted a flight on a private plane with them, that I should estimate the value and report it to the IRS as income...on the other hand, it's never occurred to me that if I went on vacation with someone I wouldn't be paying for our portion of the vacation costs. And if I was visiting a friend's home, I'd be bringing a case of wine, house gifts, paying for dinner out...something!

If someone gave me $100k to spend on my vacation, would that not be a gift exceeding gift tax exclusion? Would that not be reported as income?

Or is all this stuff carefully done to avoid IRS issues?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Should Clarence Thomas go to jail for tax evasion? Seems to me that his crimes are a lot more serious than Hunter’s. After all, he is a Supreme Court Justice while Hunter is simply a private citizen.

well, maybe not "simply"...

Seriously, anyone know how gifts of trips and vacations and flights etc should get reported on tax returns?

It's certainly never occurred to me that if I visit a friend in Maine or in Colorado for a long weekend or week at their home, or second home, or accepted a flight on a private plane with them, that I should estimate the value and report it to the IRS as income...on the other hand, it's never occurred to me that if I went on vacation with someone I wouldn't be paying for our portion of the vacation costs. And if I was visiting a friend's home, I'd be bringing a case of wine, house gifts, paying for dinner out...something!

If someone gave me $100k to spend on my vacation, would that not be a gift exceeding gift tax exclusion? Would that not be reported as income?

Or is all this stuff carefully done to avoid IRS issues?

If Clarence Thomas were a division 1 athlete he would have lost all of his eligibility for receiving extra benefits.

[a fan]

Should Clarence Thomas go to jail for tax evasion? Seems to me that his crimes are a lot more serious than Hunter’s. After all, he is a Supreme Court Justice while Hunter is simply a private citizen.

Let me tell you about the train that's on the tracks: if the IRS dares to audit Thomas for these financial disclosures that are BEGGING for an audit?

TeamTinFoil will claim corruption on the part of the IRS, and scream Deep State!!!!!

Watching full grown adults just completely fall apart in their basic reasoning..... that even a High School kid has, is just......depressing.

[MDlaxfan76]

yes...though I'm just asking whether anyone actually knows what the law and practice has been on such "gifts".

Legal beagles on here, anyone know?

It's possible/probable that these sorts of things have been tested before.
Not perhaps at this extreme a level and with such prominence, but has there ever been a ruling?

And is not the responsibility for reporting on the donor?

Is it actually "income"?

[a fan]

You can only hide behind the Trump appointee canard for so long. Weiss was on the Hunter investigation as part of the Biden Admin DoJ longer than he was as a member of the Trump Admin DoJ. The SOLs were allowed to expire under the Biden Admin DoJ.

What changed, outside of the stationary in the White House?


Here's the question: how does this conspiracy work without Weiss? Lay it out. Dude----you can't.

You have three options here:

1. Weiss is incompetent, and isn't managing the case at a level expected of a Federal prosecutor
2. Weiss is corrupt
3. Weiss made one or more mistakes

What you are selling here gives one option: when we Garland showed up, he directed Weiss to tank the case. Which cannot happen without #2.

Got any other theories? I'm all ears. Your Deep State cannot work without Trump appointee Weiss being in on it.

I bring up Barr for obvious reasons: Barr is the one that made the decision to merge the DoJ and IRS cases, and put split the investigation into DC and Delaware, putting Weiss in charge. That, and the investigation that TeamTinFoilHat believes is where the bodies are hidden was finished and in Barr's hands in the summer of 2020, and the whistleblowers claimed Barr was interfering in their work in 2020.

How 'bout providing a source that I can read that explains your theories about what Barr did to bury or delay the Hunter investigation.

Old Salt....FFS, you're upside down!

You are the one claiming conspiracy, not me!!!

What I'm using is basic logic that tells you that YOUR conspiracy cannot work without Trump appointees. Feel free to try and poke holes in that logic.

I think that they investigated Hunter for 5 years. Plenty of time, and then some, to come up with their worst. I trust Weiss to turn over every stone.

You don't. You're blaming the Trump Admin. for appointing the wrong guy, and you don't like hearing that, for whatever reason.

[njbill]

Should Clarence Thomas go to jail for tax evasion? Seems to me that his crimes are a lot more serious than Hunter’s. After all, he is a Supreme Court Justice while Hunter is simply a private citizen.

well, maybe not "simply"...

Seriously, anyone know how gifts of trips and vacations and flights etc should get reported on tax returns?

It's certainly never occurred to me that if I visit a friend in Maine or in Colorado for a long weekend or week at their home, or second home, or accepted a flight on a private plane with them, that I should estimate the value and report it to the IRS as income...on the other hand, it's never occurred to me that if I went on vacation with someone I wouldn't be paying for our portion of the vacation costs. And if I was visiting a friend's home, I'd be bringing a case of wine, house gifts, paying for dinner out...something!

If someone gave me $100k to spend on my vacation, would that not be a gift exceeding gift tax exclusion? Would that not be reported as income?

Or is all this stuff carefully done to avoid IRS issues?

Those are true gifts to you, MD, except perhaps your $100,000 example. They are not taxable to you. What Clarence received is certainly not a gift. It is taxable income. I would be very surprised, even shocked, if he reported it.

Where do you include non-gifts like Thomas got on a tax return? Without looking into it, I’m not sure. But there are certainly catchall other income categories on the tax form. If you truly have a question about this, ask your accountant.

You are mixing up gift tax rules with income. If it is a true gift, the donor may have to pay gift tax under certain circumstances. The recipient does not pay any tax, gift or income. If it is not a true gift, and it is income, the recipient must pay income tax. The donor does not pay gift tax in that situation.