This just laughable... Gutfeld is guilty of being a bad comic, I'll give that but he's no more "nazi" than you are mdlax.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:25 amUh huh, yes, I'll call Gutfeld a nazi wannabe POS. Not paranoid at all to recognize it.old salt wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:08 amNo thanks. You are sick & paranoid. Name calling & misrepresenting what others say to fit your political biases.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 30, 2023 12:01 amYes, I did. The Jewish woman commentator (the token liberal) said she couldn't speak with the same insight about what it would feel like to be a descendant of American slaves, but could analogize to a claim that the Holocaust benefited Jews in concentration camps...and Gutfeld quickly pulled Frankl out of his a-s with this claim of "utility", like the good little nazi wannabe that he is.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:54 pmDid you see the entire segment in which Gutfeld made that comment ? They weren't even discussing the Holocaust until another panel member made the analogy to the FL instruction.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:48 pmYup, I agree with the above in blue.old salt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:48 pmDid Gutfeld misquote Frankl, or just touch a hot button third rail issue which is too fraught with emotion to rationally discuss ?PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:59 am“Gutfeld was praising the human spirit, even under the most horrendous conditions.”old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:09 amYou render rational discourse impossible. Zero perspective.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:09 amwow, joining the POS Gutfeld. And the numbskull racists in Florida who thought making teachers teach that slaves benefited from slavery...old salt wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:48 amTypical Biden WH over-reaction for effect. Just as they are doing with the FL education guidelines.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:00 pm And now we have POS Greg Gutfeld smirkily weighing in on the Holocaust, "utility"...
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/media/wh ... aust/index
No honest effort to examine what's being said & place it in context.
That's why honest debate or discussion is no longer possible.
That was hardly an endorsement of the Holocaust, & acknowledging that some freed slaves emerged with marketable skills is hardly an endorsement for slavery. No honest, fair minded person would make that interpretation then exploit it for divisive effect.
Just so gross that you don't realize it.
That's an "honest and fair-minded" response.
You're a princess with a pea beneath 20 matresses, needle in a hay stack.
Gutfeld was praising the human spirit, even under the most horrendous conditions.
Sweet jeebus!! Have you read “Man’s Search for Meaning”? Do you understand what Frankl was saying about the debasememt of self implicit in being of “utility” to the Nazis? I truly hope not, or you are a monster.
There's no way that what he said can be rationally interpreted as minimizing the horrors of the Holocaust.
Gutfeld did not raise the Holocaust. He was responding to a panelist who made the analogy to the FL BoE guidelines.
He pointed out that Frankl wrote that their skills & utility helped some to survive the concentration camps. Nothing more.
I'd bet you have no comprehension at all, never read it...but that Gutfeld goes there suggests that he actually has or some other POS told him that the point Frankl was making was that survivors survived because they had "utility"...and that this is "praising the human spirit" as opposed to condemning in the strongest terms the nazi death camp machine and what it did to people. As to human spirit he wrote from a psychological perspective of the importance of hope, of imagining a future beyond the immense suffering. He believed there were just two types of people, "decent" and "indecent". Nazi guards could be decent (a few) or indecent (most) as there could be decent or..indecent prisoners who preyed on other prisoners including providing "utility" as a kapo on behalf of the guards...
Yes, jeebus..."utility"...
Seriously, you want to double down again?
It's gross.
I don't think you are, but you refuse to dig harder and recognize the error.
You do understand that any Jews who survived did so only on a temporary basis, that all were slated for death?
ALL. No exceptions?
And that "utility" was the moral justification for the most inhumane possible medical experimentation on prisoners?
That "utility" was the moral justification for mass extermination?
That "utility" was the justification for slave labor/death camps?
It's a perversion of utilitarianism, which I don't hold to as is, but the Nazi's perversion of "utility" was throughout their efficiency in mass extermination.
Tossing that label around so recklessly depletes what a real nazi is and at same time dishonors actual victims of nazism.
Just being provocative or trolling OS... I hope.