Recruiting

[Deacon022]

Sure. But for some of those regions most of the top players are in those clubs.

Money grab though it may be, if coaches are at AS and it enables some of the lesser seen girls to get exposure and good quality play it has some value. Certainly more than some of the alternatives (looking at you MD showcase). I can think of girls who made an AS team from small clubs. I’d rather see them do that than go with their club to a low or open division game at president cup.

I agree.

[LaxDadMax]

Last dance for the summer. AA or AS. Both in my opinion, a waste. Think it was someone on this site who said that a top coach told them at this stage it can only hurt your recruiting value not help. I agree with that. If your kid balled out this summer, this tourney doesn’t help. Maybe the one or two kids on a team that didn’t get any exposure, but most of the kids playing here played on top 15 teams.
Wish I knew then what I know now about this final recruit year. Would’ve saved a ton. I was hoping they canceled but knew that wasn’t happening. Nothing better than watching lacrosse in blazing sun and 97 degree heat. Anyway. It’s finally over.

It can help if you don't play on a top 40 club or a club who doesn't play in the top 3 brackets in big tourneys. in addition to showcases, it can be the way they can demonstrate what they can do against elite competition.

For kids who play on YJ, Heros, Steps, M&D, a complete waste of time.

If you were there yesterday, you saw twice as many coaches at the Midwest/tennessee game than you did at the Long Island / New Jersey game.

[realitychecks]

This 2025 class is an exciting one and having a daughter on one of the better teams in the top 10 I’ll share my thoughts none of these players are as you state “overrated” they all have bright futures and I will keep it positive

Kowalski is a great player and does it all for her team the thing that separates her as a midfielder is her defensive tenacity she also is great at draw and is top offensive threat on her team
comparing her and Meyn is not even close as Meyn is a great player but not a top 3 player on her own team is not their primary draw person doesn’t play much defense. She is definitely a scorer but more of a cutter and transition player excellent on FP nut she isn’t a dodger

Really like Winkler she is super explosive and well rounded and best player on her team she is so good at creating her own shot but she is also unselfish PT team is excellent amd she is the catalyst along with Lauretani who dominates the draw and is a scorer as well

Imo Spalina is as advertised she is so smart saw her one game she had 5/6 goals against us with many that were then the next time we played I think she assisted every goal they scored for some reason we played YJ every Tourn good because all the coaches were there bad because they are excellent She is clearly the top of that team and that’s what we all thought their other kids are all great but she was only that took the game over makes players around her better

Patterson is the top goalie by a large margin and an absolute game changer. Great stopper throws pin point outlets and a vocal leader

Pencek is the key player on a great MD team she doesn’t necessarily light up the scoring fit them but did in her HS season (not best comp) but is there do it all she is incredible between the 30.s and on the circle. She was out hurt against us after an injury at LFC in one of our matchup.

Just a few of my thoughts on some players that I know are well regarded by top programs Let’s keep it positive on here !
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My observation of watching yesterdays play is the kids among various age groups look exhausted and like relax 77 said many of the kids could do more harm to their recruiting status than help it. It’s ijust too much imo and That is more for the top clubs that have had max exposure all summerI do see the benefit for kids who maybe weren’t seen as much or missed an event. The thing that has entered the ring now that my older daughter didn’t have is now August is packed with prospect days so it doesn’t really stop other than a week No rest for these kids as they roll into fall sports for many

[LaxDadMax]

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On the recruiting front there was two big tourneys this weekend. Both in the same place. Mid Summer Chamlionship which had one or two top teams but the larger amount of coaches there. And Maryland Cup which was a new Steps tourney in its second year that probably had the better of the top 25 teams but less coaches. At this point I would think it didn’t matter as colleges have basically seen what they need to see. This is just desert.
From the games standpoints Top dog Spallina didn’t fare too well. Was tied once by Sky Walkers and beat by Prime Time but top prospect A. Spallina didn’t play cause she was injured during the tourney. HHH had a dreadful performance. Prime Time and Steps seemed to have the best tourney.

For Mid Summer. M&D rolled through and NXT lost 1. The rest of the field was mostly out of the top 25. Mostly anyway. Wonder if M&D gets the top spot.

Not sure why I posted this other than being bored and wanting to spark something on this forum. Oh well.

I wrote about Spallina back in June with a recruiting update and basically said the same thing. Her play hasn't impressed this summer. Penzeck, Kowalski, Winkler, Lauretani, Meyn all had a better summer than her. Don't wanna say they're all better than Spallina but they're all pretty even. When she was in 8th grade she had the looks of a special talent. I don't think she'a regressed but more like others just caught up. Spallina's Still a grade A prospect and has the lacrosse sense, vision, and shot to be a great player in college. She's currently doing recruiting visits with her pops. I wonder if that's awkward for him because alot of these schools he plays against on a regular basis.

Kowalski overrated as well. For a player a year ahead, she’s not even the most dominant on her team. Winkler and Meyn are unstoppable.

This 2025 class is an exciting one and having a daughter on one of the better teams in the top 10 I’ll share my thoughts none of these players are as you state “overrated” they all have bright futures and I will keep it positive

Kowalski is a great player and does it all for her team the thing that separates her as a midfielder is her defensive tenacity she also is great at draw and is top offensive threat on her team
comparing her and Meyn is not even close as Meyn is a great player but not a top 3 player on her own team is not their primary draw person doesn’t play much defense. She is definitely a scorer but more of a cutter and transition player excellent on FP nut she isn’t a dodger

Really like Winkler she is super explosive and well rounded and best player on her team she is so good at creating her own shot but she is also unselfish PT team is excellent amd she is the catalyst along with Lauretani who dominates the draw and is a scorer as well

Imo Spalina is as advertised she is so smart saw her one game she had 5/6 goals against us with many that were then the next time we played I think she assisted every goal they scored for some reason we played YJ every Tourn good because all the coaches were there bad because they are excellent She is clearly the top of that team and that’s what we all thought their other kids are all great but she was only that took the game over makes players around her better

Patterson is the top goalie by a large margin and an absolute game changer. Great stopper throws pin point outlets and a vocal leader

Pencek is the key player on a great MD team she doesn’t necessarily light up the scoring fit them but did in her HS season (not best comp) but is there do it all she is incredible between the 30.s and on the circle. She was out hurt against us after an injury at LFC in one of our matchup.

Just a few of my thoughts on some players that I know are well regarded by top programs Let’s keep it positive on here !
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I think they are all great players.

One thing to remember is that they really aren't many 2-way players at top-20 programs.

I think both Meyn and Kowalski project as attackers or attacking middies at the next year. So while I agree Kowalski is better on the defensive side of the ball, I think it is pretty irrevalvent. Pencek is actually one of the few players who I think could play both ways at next level.

Spallina is an X factor. Incredibly skilled, but her effectiveness will be very system specific. I can see her doing very well in more static/iso offenses which rely more on feeders. Don't really think she will prosper in motion-based, speed based offensive sets.

[realitychecks]

Sure. But for some of those regions most of the top players are in those clubs.

Money grab though it may be, if coaches are at AS and it enables some of the lesser seen girls to get exposure and good quality play it has some value. Certainly more than some of the alternatives (looking at you MD showcase). I can think of girls who made an AS team from small clubs. I’d rather see them do that than go with their club to a low or open division game at president cup.

I agree.

The fact there are two events that overlap and dilute each other says enough to me when last weekend was pretty much open they chose to go head to head they are not thinking of the kids

[Relax77]

Update from early American Selects. About a third of the coaches that were here yesterday. 20 the first half and about 15 the second half. Yesterday about 60 at both half’s both games. Although the first game started today at 7am. So maybe they are at AA today.

[LaxDadMax]

Update from early American Selects. About a third of the coaches that were here yesterday. 20 the first half and about 15 the second half. Yesterday about 60 at both half’s both games. Although the first game started today at 7am. So maybe they are at AA today.

fwiw, georgetown, Colorado and USC all said they were only there for Friday.

[Relax77]

Also calling someone a great player but overrated isn’t negative. It’s a statement. For instance. “Tom Brady is a first ballot hall of Famer and a great player. But he’s overrated.” That’s a statement and a factual one. But not negative . But in today’s society I get why someone would take that as a negative.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Also calling someone a great player but overrated isn’t negative. It’s a statement. For instance. “Tom Brady is a first ballot hall of Famer and a great player. But he’s overrated.” That’s a statement and a factual one. But not negative . But in today’s society I get why someone would take that as a negative.

Sure seems like an opinion — he’s great, but overrated — rather than a fact (e.g., he’s 6’5”). I know that facts seem hard in 2023. But I think this type of sideline assessment is opinion.

[Relax77]

Also calling someone a great player but overrated isn’t negative. It’s a statement. For instance. “Tom Brady is a first ballot hall of Famer and a great player. But he’s overrated.” That’s a statement and a factual one. But not negative . But in today’s society I get why someone would take that as a negative.

Sure seems like an opinion — he’s great, but overrated — rather than a fact (e.g., he’s 6’5”). I know that facts seem hard in 2023. But I think this type of sideline assessment is opinion.

Of course it’s an opinion. It’s sports. It’s all perceived differently.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Also calling someone a great player but overrated isn’t negative. It’s a statement. For instance. “Tom Brady is a first ballot hall of Famer and a great player. But he’s overrated.” That’s a statement and a factual one. But not negative . But in today’s society I get why someone would take that as a negative.

Sure seems like an opinion — he’s great, but overrated — rather than a fact (e.g., he’s 6’5”). I know that facts seem hard in 2023. But I think this type of sideline assessment is opinion.

Of course it’s an opinion. It’s sports. It’s all perceived differently.

So it’s not “factual”? I’m a little confused.

[DMac]

Thought the same thing when I read it, Sc. There's actually no facts in that statement about Tommy.

[Relax77]

Thought the same thing when I read it, Sc. There's actually no facts in that statement about Tommy.

It’s a forum. Can’t read everything as literal. Figured the emoji would’ve helped you guys. Sorry.

[Relax77]

But come on. You know it’s a fact Brady was overrated. Stol it.

[Relax77]

Back to the Recruiting. Not tons of coaches today. Surprisingly Mass Elite did not play well this week. Neither did YJ but most of Spallina is at AA. Monster, Capital, Prime Time (despite losing just about every draw) and both Steps teams did very well at AS however as expected the play wasn’t great due to the heat. The reward is playoffs in the 97 degree heat tomorrow with probably less than 10 coaches. As said numerous times by different people, at this point the coaches already know who they are looking at. His is more about fun for the kids. At least for my daughter. I hope some kids on less popular teams got looks this weekend as I’m sure they did.

[Deacon022]

Back to the Recruiting. Not tons of coaches today. Surprisingly Mass Elite did not play well this week. Neither did YJ but most of Spallina is at AA. Monster, Capital, Prime Time (despite losing just about every draw) and both Steps teams did very well at AS however as expected the play wasn’t great due to the heat. The reward is playoffs in the 97 degree heat tomorrow with probably less than 10 coaches. As said numerous times by different people, at this point the coaches already know who they are looking at. His is more about fun for the kids. At least for my daughter. I hope some kids on less popular teams got looks this weekend as I’m sure they did.

Downstate won most of the draws against Massachusetts. Other than that, you are accurate regarding draws.

[LaxGnome22]

I agree about the coaches. First day was amazing. Second probably half. Today there was only two coaches at my daughter’s AS game. One was the Duke coach, couldn’t see the other one. They showed up in the second half. Unfortunately her coach had us hold the ball for the entire second half and they left. The plus side is we won.

[Kleizaster]

I watched the New Balance All American game and man..this is not played like an all-stars game. These girls were going at it. Bodies flying left and right, tough defense and hard checks. and the goalies are really really good. Small in stature but insane reflexes on all of them. This maybe where the game is heading. Great crowd as well. IMO this is a great event for all involved. Talented crop of players for sure. Some players that impressed:

Lacey Downey- Didn't do anything offensively but she was a nightmare defensively. She's quick and has great anticipation. Pickpocketted a few players clean via checks and interceptions. But she still has an offensive game as she was a prolific scorer in HS. BC needs to find away to get her on the field early

Alexa Vogelman- Won the MVP having scored 4 goals. Got a little banged up and had to be helped off the field but she looks to be okay. Went hard to the net and got open repeatedly. Was very underrated in recruiting but i really like what Cuse is building here. They have another stud in Mileena Cotter coming next year.

The Goalies- all of them. Nelson looks to be the best of the bunch but not by much. Early in recruiting she was clear cut but Shae Lembo and Julia Suriano are darn good too and have closed that gap by alot.

Chloe Humphrey- The girl is elite nothing else can be said really. Had a couple North-esque howitzer pipeshots. Had a one handed check that took the ball clean from another girl's stick resulting in ooos and aaaas from the crowd. When she had the ball all the other girls stop to watch and react to her. In a game full of star players that's how you know who the go to player is. ended up with 3 goals but the South did well on her defensively and Betty Nelson stuffed her a few times late in the game.

[VAMomGlax2019]

September is quickly approaching. That means between September 1st and the 20th, many of the top girls from the 2024 class will be making their college committments. Thought i'd highlight a few players worth keeping an eye on and where i think they might land. This is just my opinion based on information i've gathered. In no particular order

Tess Calabria- highly touted prospect. Elite stick skills. I see this as a UNC/BC battle.

Ryann Frechette- was tearing up the florida circuits as a freshman before a season ending injury. Good chances she stays in florida or heads to an ACC school

Charlee Nyquist- Has a lethal BTB. UNC

Madison Rassas- Do it all Midfield general. Maryland

Kira Balis- draw specialist. Maryland

Ella Berg- speed. Northwestern

2024 isn't as strong as 2023 or 2022. 2025 however looks very strong with the Spallina girl headlining

Rassas is ND bound.

[suffolk]

September is quickly approaching. That means between September 1st and the 20th, many of the top girls from the 2024 class will be making their college committments. Thought i'd highlight a few players worth keeping an eye on and where i think they might land. This is just my opinion based on information i've gathered. In no particular order

Tess Calabria- highly touted prospect. Elite stick skills. I see this as a UNC/BC battle.

Ryann Frechette- was tearing up the florida circuits as a freshman before a season ending injury. Good chances she stays in florida or heads to an ACC school

Charlee Nyquist- Has a lethal BTB. UNC

Madison Rassas- Do it all Midfield general. Maryland

Kira Balis- draw specialist. Maryland

Ella Berg- speed. Northwestern

2024 isn't as strong as 2023 or 2022. 2025 however looks very strong with the Spallina girl headlining

Rassas is ND bound.

Balis is committed to Clemson