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cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:44 am
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:28 am This entire thread...this entire topic...is a shining example of why the country, the exhausted majority, is fully rejecting the supreme hypocrisy and bankrupt governing philosophy of today's republican party. It's just a full-on travesty that this once legitimate political party has sunk into the toilet like this party has. Dead enders that continue to support ANY aspect of what is currently coming out of this party are the real problem...truly deplorable people that wouldn't have a clue if one smacked them on the arse.

Meanwhile, one of the most productive administrations in a generation is plowing forward making life better for Americans just about every day.

MAGAt republicans do NOTHING but continue to swirl down every rabbit hole in sight. :evil:

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You blaming the Republicans for taking advantage of the gift Hunter handed them on a silver platter? I'm sure your DemocRAT party would have NEVER done the same thing if the pigeon was one of trumps kids? In a strange way Hunter would have fit in nicely in the trump family. He has all the defects of character trump does and then some.
Far as we know, Trump is not a substance addict, though he does have all sorts of impulse control issues. And zero morality.

I really don't know whether it's fair to say that Hunter's "character" is bad, his behavior when deeply addicted certainly was.

I do think your obsession with him is weird....but you're definitely not alone as MAGA is wild about it...downright crazy, IMO.

The only explanation, assuming sanity at all, is the depurate attempt to distract from very serious crimes committed by an actual POTUS.
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The Judge was brilliant. She didn't have to call BS on the Biden DoJ's sweetheart deal.
:roll:

So the Trump appointed judge is NOT a deep stater. Even though her nomination was supported by DE's two Dem Senators. But the Trump appointed prosecutor IS a deep stater.

Serious question for the crumbled Saltine. How do you identify who the deep staters are/are not?

Everyone looks the same. So how can you identify who are really lizard people underneath?

It is a serious problem for the MAGAs.
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old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:03 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:27 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:42 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:38 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:35 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:33 am :roll: BS from Weissmann. It's > 2 years before the next election. Plenty of time to resolve this.
Does Weissman expect the Judge to give Hunter blanket immunity for everything, regardless of SOL ?
Biden urgently wants to resolve this & get it out of the news before the campaign starts & his nomination is jeopardized.
Garland's DoJ looks like a thoroughly politicized clown show.
... as big of a clown show as National Review? The judge is on record understanding the Hunter Biden motivation.
:lol: ...she understands all right. That's why she blew up the sweetheart deal.
... we'll see :D
DoJ has to go back to square one. The prosecution thought they could pull a fast one on this judge but they got caught with their pants around their ankles. Simple solution would be for Hunter to man up and plead guilty and accept whatever punishment the court hands to him He would still be a degenerate scumbag but at least he would have done the right thing for maybe the first time in his life.
The Judge was brilliant. She didn't have to call BS on the Biden DoJ's sweetheart deal. She framed it as protecting Hunter's rights as a defendant & ensuring that all parties concurred on what they were agreeing to, ...& the deal fell apart. The wink & the nod was between the prosecution & the defense, agreed upon before the House turned up the heat with the IRS agents, Archer & Bobolinski, forcing Weiss to say the investigation was ongoing so he could continue to stonewall. The plan was for Hunter & the Biden admin to declare case closed, lets move on, while Weiss ran out the clock until after the election & the SOL's ran out.
So.....TeamTInFoil's theory and complaint that the IRS and DoJ was going "too slow" has been replaced? Well .....that was fast.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:14 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:44 am
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:28 am This entire thread...this entire topic...is a shining example of why the country, the exhausted majority, is fully rejecting the supreme hypocrisy and bankrupt governing philosophy of today's republican party. It's just a full-on travesty that this once legitimate political party has sunk into the toilet like this party has. Dead enders that continue to support ANY aspect of what is currently coming out of this party are the real problem...truly deplorable people that wouldn't have a clue if one smacked them on the arse.

Meanwhile, one of the most productive administrations in a generation is plowing forward making life better for Americans just about every day.

MAGAt republicans do NOTHING but continue to swirl down every rabbit hole in sight. :evil:

..
You blaming the Republicans for taking advantage of the gift Hunter handed them on a silver platter? I'm sure your DemocRAT party would have NEVER done the same thing if the pigeon was one of trumps kids? In a strange way Hunter would have fit in nicely in the trump family. He has all the defects of character trump does and then some.
Far as we know, Trump is not a substance addict, though he does have all sorts of impulse control issues. And zero morality.

I really don't know whether it's fair to say that Hunter's "character" is bad, his behavior when deeply addicted certainly was.

I do think your obsession with him is weird....but you're definitely not alone as MAGA is wild about it...downright crazy, IMO.

The only explanation, assuming sanity at all, is the depurate attempt to distract from very serious crimes committed by an actual POTUS.
No......nothing IS fair to say. Nothing.

Illegal gun purchases are NOT very serious crimes.

"zero morality"........sayz bill gates after meeting with GUILTY jeff Epstein and his creepy island of young women...........you listen to EVERY word this guy utters, tho.

For a guy who claims to be a GOP member, you sure smell like something else.

Must be all the "science" you roll around in.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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a fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:18 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:03 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:27 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:42 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:38 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:35 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:33 am :roll: BS from Weissmann. It's > 2 years before the next election. Plenty of time to resolve this.
Does Weissman expect the Judge to give Hunter blanket immunity for everything, regardless of SOL ?
Biden urgently wants to resolve this & get it out of the news before the campaign starts & his nomination is jeopardized.
Garland's DoJ looks like a thoroughly politicized clown show.
... as big of a clown show as National Review? The judge is on record understanding the Hunter Biden motivation.
:lol: ...she understands all right. That's why she blew up the sweetheart deal.
... we'll see :D
DoJ has to go back to square one. The prosecution thought they could pull a fast one on this judge but they got caught with their pants around their ankles. Simple solution would be for Hunter to man up and plead guilty and accept whatever punishment the court hands to him He would still be a degenerate scumbag but at least he would have done the right thing for maybe the first time in his life.
The Judge was brilliant. She didn't have to call BS on the Biden DoJ's sweetheart deal. She framed it as protecting Hunter's rights as a defendant & ensuring that all parties concurred on what they were agreeing to, ...& the deal fell apart. The wink & the nod was between the prosecution & the defense, agreed upon before the House turned up the heat with the IRS agents, Archer & Bobolinski, forcing Weiss to say the investigation was ongoing so he could continue to stonewall. The plan was for Hunter & the Biden admin to declare case closed, lets move on, while Weiss ran out the clock until after the election & the SOL's ran out.
So.....TeamTInFoil's theory and complaint that the IRS and DoJ was going "too slow" has been replaced? Well .....that was fast.


What would you pay for Hunters art work ?
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ggait wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:15 am
The Judge was brilliant. She didn't have to call BS on the Biden DoJ's sweetheart deal.
:roll:

So the Trump appointed judge is NOT a deep stater. Even though her nomination was supported by DE's two Dem Senators. But the Trump appointed prosecutor IS a deep stater.

Serious question for the crumbled Saltine. How do you identify who the deep staters are/are not?

It depends on the day. The game is to never put together a cohesive theory. It's all thrown around in bits and pieces.

So TeamTinFoil claims that Comey is "in on it". But they forget that Comey stuck it to Hillary, and is the ENTIRE reason Trump got over the hump, and beat Hillary.

Hillary's actions with her server cost her the election. But it wouldn't have happened if Comey had simply buried his report until after the election.

No Comey report, breaking SOP? We'd be dealing with Hillary's second term.

Deep Staters don't want to hear that, so they pretend it never happened.

Just like they pretend Manafort wasn't on Putin's payroll, so they can claim the FBI was insane to look into that. Because hey, who cares, right? :roll:


And yes, the fact that Trump hired the head of the FBI and IRS, and various judges is irrelevant to TeamTinFoil. No matter what happens, or what the detail is, "they're in on it".
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runrussellrun wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:23 am
a fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:18 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:03 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:27 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:42 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:38 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:35 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:33 am :roll: BS from Weissmann. It's > 2 years before the next election. Plenty of time to resolve this.
Does Weissman expect the Judge to give Hunter blanket immunity for everything, regardless of SOL ?
Biden urgently wants to resolve this & get it out of the news before the campaign starts & his nomination is jeopardized.
Garland's DoJ looks like a thoroughly politicized clown show.
... as big of a clown show as National Review? The judge is on record understanding the Hunter Biden motivation.
:lol: ...she understands all right. That's why she blew up the sweetheart deal.
... we'll see :D
DoJ has to go back to square one. The prosecution thought they could pull a fast one on this judge but they got caught with their pants around their ankles. Simple solution would be for Hunter to man up and plead guilty and accept whatever punishment the court hands to him He would still be a degenerate scumbag but at least he would have done the right thing for maybe the first time in his life.
The Judge was brilliant. She didn't have to call BS on the Biden DoJ's sweetheart deal. She framed it as protecting Hunter's rights as a defendant & ensuring that all parties concurred on what they were agreeing to, ...& the deal fell apart. The wink & the nod was between the prosecution & the defense, agreed upon before the House turned up the heat with the IRS agents, Archer & Bobolinski, forcing Weiss to say the investigation was ongoing so he could continue to stonewall. The plan was for Hunter & the Biden admin to declare case closed, lets move on, while Weiss ran out the clock until after the election & the SOL's ran out.
So.....TeamTInFoil's theory and complaint that the IRS and DoJ was going "too slow" has been replaced? Well .....that was fast.


What would you pay for Hunters art work ?
I'm more concerned that the ramen noodles are boiled too fast, and J Edgar Hoover? That guy, and so much iron ore, right?

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a fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:24 am

So TeamTinFoil claims that Comey is "in on it". But they forget that Comey stuck it to Hillary, and is the ENTIRE reason Trump got over the hump, and beat Hillary.

Hillary's actions with her server cost her the election. But it wouldn't have happened if Comey had simply buried his report until after the election.

umm......the ENTIRE reason why ?

amazing, how "opinions" are formed.......and cast as if never to change.

How are the Democrats treating fellow democrat, Robert Kennedy Jr........?

They "sticking it to him"....with all the antivaccer lies and "nutbag" accusations?

Sure,,,,,you so sure....the fellow democrats hate the Clintons ? Homosexuals don't dig the hate the Clintons threw their way, over the decades.

AFAN.....yes.....the SEreVER......was everything.

the only thing.

How did Hillaryous Clinton vote, as US Senator, representing New York, regarding killing humans in Iraq/Afghanistan ? Must have been just like, John Kerry.....he also voted against the war.

Harvard called Obama a "war criminal" for his drone killings....... stoopid Harvard students.....
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a fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:26 am
runrussellrun wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:23 am
a fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:18 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:03 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:27 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:42 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:38 am
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:35 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:33 am :roll: BS from Weissmann. It's > 2 years before the next election. Plenty of time to resolve this.
Does Weissman expect the Judge to give Hunter blanket immunity for everything, regardless of SOL ?
Biden urgently wants to resolve this & get it out of the news before the campaign starts & his nomination is jeopardized.
Garland's DoJ looks like a thoroughly politicized clown show.
... as big of a clown show as National Review? The judge is on record understanding the Hunter Biden motivation.
:lol: ...she understands all right. That's why she blew up the sweetheart deal.
... we'll see :D
DoJ has to go back to square one. The prosecution thought they could pull a fast one on this judge but they got caught with their pants around their ankles. Simple solution would be for Hunter to man up and plead guilty and accept whatever punishment the court hands to him He would still be a degenerate scumbag but at least he would have done the right thing for maybe the first time in his life.
The Judge was brilliant. She didn't have to call BS on the Biden DoJ's sweetheart deal. She framed it as protecting Hunter's rights as a defendant & ensuring that all parties concurred on what they were agreeing to, ...& the deal fell apart. The wink & the nod was between the prosecution & the defense, agreed upon before the House turned up the heat with the IRS agents, Archer & Bobolinski, forcing Weiss to say the investigation was ongoing so he could continue to stonewall. The plan was for Hunter & the Biden admin to declare case closed, lets move on, while Weiss ran out the clock until after the election & the SOL's ran out.
So.....TeamTInFoil's theory and complaint that the IRS and DoJ was going "too slow" has been replaced? Well .....that was fast.


What would you pay for Hunters art work ?
I'm more concerned that the ramen noodles are boiled too fast, and J Edgar Hoover? That guy, and so much iron ore, right?

Button fly jeans.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:14 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:44 am
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:28 am This entire thread...this entire topic...is a shining example of why the country, the exhausted majority, is fully rejecting the supreme hypocrisy and bankrupt governing philosophy of today's republican party. It's just a full-on travesty that this once legitimate political party has sunk into the toilet like this party has. Dead enders that continue to support ANY aspect of what is currently coming out of this party are the real problem...truly deplorable people that wouldn't have a clue if one smacked them on the arse.

Meanwhile, one of the most productive administrations in a generation is plowing forward making life better for Americans just about every day.

MAGAt republicans do NOTHING but continue to swirl down every rabbit hole in sight. :evil:

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You blaming the Republicans for taking advantage of the gift Hunter handed them on a silver platter? I'm sure your DemocRAT party would have NEVER done the same thing if the pigeon was one of trumps kids? In a strange way Hunter would have fit in nicely in the trump family. He has all the defects of character trump does and then some.
Far as we know, Trump is not a substance addict, though he does have all sorts of impulse control issues. And zero morality.

I really don't know whether it's fair to say that Hunter's "character" is bad, his behavior when deeply addicted certainly was.

I do think your obsession with him is weird....but you're definitely not alone as MAGA is wild about it...downright crazy, IMO.

The only explanation, assuming sanity at all, is the depurate attempt to distract from very serious crimes committed by an actual POTUS.
I think your obsession with those white Christian nationalists is even weirder. You have your obsessions and I have mine. You can judge one group of people and overlook and make sorry ass excuses for one single individual. Good job there hero, good job. :roll:
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No Comey report, breaking SOP? We'd be dealing with Hillary's second term.
The data says Comey handed the WH to Trump.

So his performance as a Deep Stater is literally the worst of all time. I tend to think he was a Manchurian Deep Stater. Underneath, he was really was the greatest MAGA ever.

It is so confusing figuring out who the lizard people really are.

Hillary Clinton would probably be president if FBI Director James Comey had not sent a letter to Congress on Oct. 28. The letter, which said the FBI had “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation” into the private email server that Clinton used as secretary of state, upended the news cycle and soon halved Clinton’s lead in the polls, imperiling her position in the Electoral College.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... -election/
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cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:33 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:14 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:44 am
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:28 am This entire thread...this entire topic...is a shining example of why the country, the exhausted majority, is fully rejecting the supreme hypocrisy and bankrupt governing philosophy of today's republican party. It's just a full-on travesty that this once legitimate political party has sunk into the toilet like this party has. Dead enders that continue to support ANY aspect of what is currently coming out of this party are the real problem...truly deplorable people that wouldn't have a clue if one smacked them on the arse.

Meanwhile, one of the most productive administrations in a generation is plowing forward making life better for Americans just about every day.

MAGAt republicans do NOTHING but continue to swirl down every rabbit hole in sight. :evil:

..
You blaming the Republicans for taking advantage of the gift Hunter handed them on a silver platter? I'm sure your DemocRAT party would have NEVER done the same thing if the pigeon was one of trumps kids? In a strange way Hunter would have fit in nicely in the trump family. He has all the defects of character trump does and then some.
Far as we know, Trump is not a substance addict, though he does have all sorts of impulse control issues. And zero morality.

I really don't know whether it's fair to say that Hunter's "character" is bad, his behavior when deeply addicted certainly was.

I do think your obsession with him is weird....but you're definitely not alone as MAGA is wild about it...downright crazy, IMO.

The only explanation, assuming sanity at all, is the depurate attempt to distract from very serious crimes committed by an actual POTUS.
I think your obsession with those white Christian nationalists is even weirder. You have your obsessions and I have mine. You can judge one group of people and overlook and make sorry ass excuses for one single individual. Good job there hero, good job. :roll:
mmm, I'll keep my "obsession" with White Christian Nationalists.
And yeah, they're a bunch of fascists, neo-nazis, and nutso fanatics...actually dangerous to democracy.

And as I've explained ad nauseam, that doesn't indict/condemn white people, nor Christians, nor patriotic Americans.

And I don't condemn those who break free from the White Christian Nationalist ideology. More power to them, it's hard to break from the cult-like feeling of being part of something that inflames you in deep ways. I'd say it takes a lot of good "character" to do so. So, redemption is possible.

Hunter, I'll condemn his actions, no sweat.
His character, I'm not so sure.

I've witnessed some very bad behavior by a family member, who has subsequently become and stayed sober for nearly two decades.
IMO, took a lot of good "character" to do so and to help so many others in so many ways since becoming sober.
I can still condemn his prior actions.
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a fan wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:24 am
ggait wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:15 am
The Judge was brilliant. She didn't have to call BS on the Biden DoJ's sweetheart deal.
:roll:

So the Trump appointed judge is NOT a deep stater. Even though her nomination was supported by DE's two Dem Senators. But the Trump appointed prosecutor IS a deep stater.

Serious question for the crumbled Saltine. How do you identify who the deep staters are/are not?

It depends on the day. The game is to never put together a cohesive theory. It's all thrown around in bits and pieces.

So TeamTinFoil claims that Comey is "in on it". But they forget that Comey stuck it to Hillary, and is the ENTIRE reason Trump got over the hump, and beat Hillary.

Hillary's actions with her server cost her the election. But it wouldn't have happened if Comey had simply buried his report until after the election.

No Comey report, breaking SOP? We'd be dealing with Hillary's second term.

Deep Staters don't want to hear that, so they pretend it never happened.

Just like they pretend Manafort wasn't on Putin's payroll, so they can claim the FBI was insane to look into that. Because hey, who cares, right? :roll:


And yes, the fact that Trump hired the head of the FBI and IRS, and various judges is irrelevant to TeamTinFoil. No matter what happens, or what the detail is, "they're in on it".
:lol: ...as always, in your world, everything is D vs R. The Judge may have been appointed by Trump, but she donated to Hillary & not Trump.

Weiss may register (R) & was appointed by Trump, with the enthusiastic support of DE's 2 (D) Senators, but he has to live & practice law in DE.

Comey didn't stick it to Hillary. He gave her a pass, months before the election. Weiner screwed her.
AG Lynch gave her power to Comey rather than her Asst -- Sally Yates.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:14 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:44 am
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:28 am This entire thread...this entire topic...is a shining example of why the country, the exhausted majority, is fully rejecting the supreme hypocrisy and bankrupt governing philosophy of today's republican party. It's just a full-on travesty that this once legitimate political party has sunk into the toilet like this party has. Dead enders that continue to support ANY aspect of what is currently coming out of this party are the real problem...truly deplorable people that wouldn't have a clue if one smacked them on the arse.

Meanwhile, one of the most productive administrations in a generation is plowing forward making life better for Americans just about every day.

MAGAt republicans do NOTHING but continue to swirl down every rabbit hole in sight. :evil:

..
You blaming the Republicans for taking advantage of the gift Hunter handed them on a silver platter? I'm sure your DemocRAT party would have NEVER done the same thing if the pigeon was one of trumps kids? In a strange way Hunter would have fit in nicely in the trump family. He has all the defects of character trump does and then some.
Far as we know, Trump is not a substance addict, though he does have all sorts of impulse control issues. And zero morality.

I really don't know whether it's fair to say that Hunter's "character" is bad, his behavior when deeply addicted certainly was.

I do think your obsession with him is weird....but you're definitely not alone as MAGA is wild about it...downright crazy, IMO.

The only explanation, assuming sanity at all, is the depurate attempt to distract from very serious crimes committed by an actual POTUS.
It has been proven and verified that trump is a diet coke and big Mac addict. Whether that addiction is better or worse than cocaine is probably still up for debate?
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:09 am And no, I don't agree that not telling the truth about one's addiction on a gun purchase form should constitute jail time, especially if the gun was never misused, and indeed returned two weeks later.
:lol: ...what an enabler ! Become an addict & you earn a "Get out of Jail Free" card for everything.
Here's how the gun was returned two weeks later...

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/2 ... gun-477879

Secret Service inserted itself into case of Hunter Biden’s gun
The bizarre incident involved a trash can, a man searching for recyclables and, eventually, federal law enforcement.

On Oct. 23, 2018, President Joe Biden’s son Hunter and daughter in law Hallie were involved in a bizarre incident in which Hallie took Hunter’s gun and threw it in a trash can behind a grocery store, only to return later to find it gone.

Delaware police began investigating, concerned that the trash can was across from a high school and that the missing gun could be used in a crime, according to law enforcement officials and a copy of the police report obtained by POLITICO.

But a curious thing happened at the time: Secret Service agents approached the owner of the store where Hunter bought the gun and asked to take the paperwork involving the sale, according to two people, one of whom has firsthand knowledge of the episode and the other was briefed by a Secret Service agent after the fact.

The gun store owner refused to supply the paperwork, suspecting that the Secret Service officers wanted to hide Hunter’s ownership of the missing gun in case it were to be involved in a crime, the two people said. The owner, Ron Palmieri, later turned over the papers to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, which oversees federal gun laws.

The Secret Service says it has no record of its agents investigating the incident, and Joe Biden, who was not under protection at the time, said through a spokesperson he has no knowledge of any Secret Service involvement.

Days later, the gun was returned by an older man who regularly rummages through the grocery’s store’s trash to collect recyclable items, according to people familiar with the situation.

The incident did not result in charges or arrests.

The Secret Service declined to answer a question about whether it had informal involvement in Biden’s security during this period.

Any involvement by the Secret Service on behalf of the Biden family or on its own initiative would be inappropriate interference in an incident that was already being investigated by Delaware State Police with the involvement of the FBI, according to law enforcement officials.

The gun-store incident occurred during a period after Hunter Biden’s administrative discharge from the Naval Reserves for his positive cocaine test and his subsequent divorce from his first wife, Kathleen. At the time of the gun incident, Hunter was in a romantic relationship with Hallie, the widow of his late brother, Beau.

The incident began when Hallie searched Hunter’s pickup, which was parked at her home in Wilmington, because of unspecified “suspicions she had,” according to the Delaware State Police report. Inside the truck, she found a .38 revolver.

Hallie took the gun to Janssen’s Market, a nearby high-end grocery store where the Bidens are longtime regular customers. There, she tossed the gun, wrapped in a black shopping bag, into a trash bin outside of the store.

Later that day, Hallie informed Hunter of what she had done, and he instructed her to retrieve the gun, according to the police report. When Hallie returned to the grocery store, she found that the gun was missing from the garbage bin and reported the issue to the store. Police received calls from the store’s general manager, Paula Janssen, and from another person, according to the report.

The missing gun caused heightened concern, according to the police report, because the grocery store sits across the street from Alexis I. du Pont High School.

Arriving on the scene, Delaware State Police retrieved security camera footage from the store and interviewed Janssen, the store manager. “We complied with the police and gave them whatever security footage we could,” Janssen told POLITICO.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation also responded to the scene, according to people familiar with the situation. At the time, the FBI was monitoring Hunter Biden as part of an investigation that remains ongoing and that currently focuses on his taxes. The FBI declined to comment.

In addition to questioning Hallie, police called Hunter to the scene, where he was questioned outside the store’s loading dock area and explained he used the gun for target practice, according to the report.

At one point, two of Janssen’s employees, described by the police report as “Mexican males,” walked past the loading dock area, and Hunter told a police officer that the store had some suspicious people working for it. Asked if he was referring to those two staffers, Hunter responded, “Yea, prolly illegal,” according to the report.

When a police officer asked Hunter whether the gun had been used in a crime, the officer reported that Hunter “became very agitated with me and asked me if I was intentionally trying to make him mad,” according to the report.

When the officer asked Hunter whether he had been doing drugs or drinking heavily, he responded, “Listen, it isn’t like that. I think she believes I was gonna kill myself,” according to the report.

An officer asked Hunter whether he had called his father about the incident before he arrived. Hunter responded, “I have never called my dad for anything,” according to the police report.

After being questioned, Hunter retrieved the case for the gun — which included the gun’s serial number — from Hallie’s house and returned to the grocery store to hand it over to police, according to the report.

While police questioned Hunter and Hallie, two Secret Service agents arrived at the store where Hunter had purchased the gun, StarQuest Shooters & Survival Supply in Wilmington, according to the two people familiar with the incident. The agents showed their badges and identification cards to Palmieri, the store’s owner, and asked to take possession of the Firearms Transaction Record that Hunter had filled out to buy the gun earlier that month, according to the people familiar with the incident.

Palmieri refused to hand over the transaction record to the Secret Service agents because such records fall under the purview of the ATF. The Secret Service agents left without the records, according to the people familiar with the case. Later that day, the ATF arrived at the store to inspect the records.

Palmieri declined to comment on the episode.

The incident has received scant attention, save for a report on the conservative website The Blaze that focused on the state police decision not to file charges against either Hunter or Hallie.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:23 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:33 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:14 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:44 am
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:28 am This entire thread...this entire topic...is a shining example of why the country, the exhausted majority, is fully rejecting the supreme hypocrisy and bankrupt governing philosophy of today's republican party. It's just a full-on travesty that this once legitimate political party has sunk into the toilet like this party has. Dead enders that continue to support ANY aspect of what is currently coming out of this party are the real problem...truly deplorable people that wouldn't have a clue if one smacked them on the arse.

Meanwhile, one of the most productive administrations in a generation is plowing forward making life better for Americans just about every day.

MAGAt republicans do NOTHING but continue to swirl down every rabbit hole in sight. :evil:

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You blaming the Republicans for taking advantage of the gift Hunter handed them on a silver platter? I'm sure your DemocRAT party would have NEVER done the same thing if the pigeon was one of trumps kids? In a strange way Hunter would have fit in nicely in the trump family. He has all the defects of character trump does and then some.
Far as we know, Trump is not a substance addict, though he does have all sorts of impulse control issues. And zero morality.

I really don't know whether it's fair to say that Hunter's "character" is bad, his behavior when deeply addicted certainly was.

I do think your obsession with him is weird....but you're definitely not alone as MAGA is wild about it...downright crazy, IMO.

The only explanation, assuming sanity at all, is the depurate attempt to distract from very serious crimes committed by an actual POTUS.
I think your obsession with those white Christian nationalists is even weirder. You have your obsessions and I have mine. You can judge one group of people and overlook and make sorry ass excuses for one single individual. Good job there hero, good job. :roll:
mmm, I'll keep my "obsession" with White Christian Nationalists.
And yeah, they're a bunch of fascists, neo-nazis, and nutso fanatics...actually dangerous to democracy.

And as I've explained ad nauseam, that doesn't indict/condemn white people, nor Christians, nor patriotic Americans.

And I don't condemn those who break free from the White Christian Nationalist ideology. More power to them, it's hard to break from the cult-like feeling of being part of something that inflames you in deep ways. I'd say it takes a lot of good "character" to do so. So, redemption is possible.

Hunter, I'll condemn his actions, no sweat.
His character, I'm not so sure.

I've witnessed some very bad behavior by a family member, who has subsequently become and stayed sober for nearly two decades.
IMO, took a lot of good "character" to do so and to help so many others in so many ways since becoming sober.
I can still condemn his prior actions.
I suppose a good start in the right direction for Hunter is admitting that little girl is his daughter and not act ashamed of the fact her mom was a stripper. While he is at it he can tell his old man to admit that he has 7 grandchildren. That was a pure 100% chicken chit move on Joe Biden ignoring this young lady. Don't give me your line of BS saying he was respecting his sons wishes. What a great story this lady will have to tell when she grows up. My grandfather was president of the United States but was to embarrassed of me to admit I ever existed. I guess in the Biden family the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree. Beau Biden does get a pass on that from me. He was by all accounts a gentleman and a hero.
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old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:17 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:09 am And no, I don't agree that not telling the truth about one's addiction on a gun purchase form should constitute jail time, especially if the gun was never misused, and indeed returned two weeks later.
:lol: ...what an enabler ! Become an addict & you earn a "Get out of Jail Free" card for everything.
Here's how the gun was returned two weeks later...

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/2 ... gun-477879

Secret Service inserted itself into case of Hunter Biden’s gun
The bizarre incident involved a trash can, a man searching for recyclables and, eventually, federal law enforcement.

On Oct. 23, 2018, President Joe Biden’s son Hunter and daughter in law Hallie were involved in a bizarre incident in which Hallie took Hunter’s gun and threw it in a trash can behind a grocery store, only to return later to find it gone.

Delaware police began investigating, concerned that the trash can was across from a high school and that the missing gun could be used in a crime, according to law enforcement officials and a copy of the police report obtained by POLITICO.

But a curious thing happened at the time: Secret Service agents approached the owner of the store where Hunter bought the gun and asked to take the paperwork involving the sale, according to two people, one of whom has firsthand knowledge of the episode and the other was briefed by a Secret Service agent after the fact.

The gun store owner refused to supply the paperwork, suspecting that the Secret Service officers wanted to hide Hunter’s ownership of the missing gun in case it were to be involved in a crime, the two people said. The owner, Ron Palmieri, later turned over the papers to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, which oversees federal gun laws.

The Secret Service says it has no record of its agents investigating the incident, and Joe Biden, who was not under protection at the time, said through a spokesperson he has no knowledge of any Secret Service involvement.

Days later, the gun was returned by an older man who regularly rummages through the grocery’s store’s trash to collect recyclable items, according to people familiar with the situation.

The incident did not result in charges or arrests.

The Secret Service declined to answer a question about whether it had informal involvement in Biden’s security during this period.

Any involvement by the Secret Service on behalf of the Biden family or on its own initiative would be inappropriate interference in an incident that was already being investigated by Delaware State Police with the involvement of the FBI, according to law enforcement officials.

The gun-store incident occurred during a period after Hunter Biden’s administrative discharge from the Naval Reserves for his positive cocaine test and his subsequent divorce from his first wife, Kathleen. At the time of the gun incident, Hunter was in a romantic relationship with Hallie, the widow of his late brother, Beau.

The incident began when Hallie searched Hunter’s pickup, which was parked at her home in Wilmington, because of unspecified “suspicions she had,” according to the Delaware State Police report. Inside the truck, she found a .38 revolver.

Hallie took the gun to Janssen’s Market, a nearby high-end grocery store where the Bidens are longtime regular customers. There, she tossed the gun, wrapped in a black shopping bag, into a trash bin outside of the store.

Later that day, Hallie informed Hunter of what she had done, and he instructed her to retrieve the gun, according to the police report. When Hallie returned to the grocery store, she found that the gun was missing from the garbage bin and reported the issue to the store. Police received calls from the store’s general manager, Paula Janssen, and from another person, according to the report.

The missing gun caused heightened concern, according to the police report, because the grocery store sits across the street from Alexis I. du Pont High School.

Arriving on the scene, Delaware State Police retrieved security camera footage from the store and interviewed Janssen, the store manager. “We complied with the police and gave them whatever security footage we could,” Janssen told POLITICO.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation also responded to the scene, according to people familiar with the situation. At the time, the FBI was monitoring Hunter Biden as part of an investigation that remains ongoing and that currently focuses on his taxes. The FBI declined to comment.

In addition to questioning Hallie, police called Hunter to the scene, where he was questioned outside the store’s loading dock area and explained he used the gun for target practice, according to the report.

At one point, two of Janssen’s employees, described by the police report as “Mexican males,” walked past the loading dock area, and Hunter told a police officer that the store had some suspicious people working for it. Asked if he was referring to those two staffers, Hunter responded, “Yea, prolly illegal,” according to the report.

When a police officer asked Hunter whether the gun had been used in a crime, the officer reported that Hunter “became very agitated with me and asked me if I was intentionally trying to make him mad,” according to the report.

When the officer asked Hunter whether he had been doing drugs or drinking heavily, he responded, “Listen, it isn’t like that. I think she believes I was gonna kill myself,” according to the report.

An officer asked Hunter whether he had called his father about the incident before he arrived. Hunter responded, “I have never called my dad for anything,” according to the police report.

After being questioned, Hunter retrieved the case for the gun — which included the gun’s serial number — from Hallie’s house and returned to the grocery store to hand it over to police, according to the report.

While police questioned Hunter and Hallie, two Secret Service agents arrived at the store where Hunter had purchased the gun, StarQuest Shooters & Survival Supply in Wilmington, according to the two people familiar with the incident. The agents showed their badges and identification cards to Palmieri, the store’s owner, and asked to take possession of the Firearms Transaction Record that Hunter had filled out to buy the gun earlier that month, according to the people familiar with the incident.

Palmieri refused to hand over the transaction record to the Secret Service agents because such records fall under the purview of the ATF. The Secret Service agents left without the records, according to the people familiar with the case. Later that day, the ATF arrived at the store to inspect the records.

Palmieri declined to comment on the episode.

The incident has received scant attention, save for a report on the conservative website The Blaze that focused on the state police decision not to file charges against either Hunter or Hallie.
Holy smokes, I never heard about any of this nonsense. You can't possibly make this stuff up. I guess in the big scheme of things it was all just a big misunderstanding? :roll: I'm thinking MD lax needs to step in here and provide clarification on this event.
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ggait wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:15 am
The Judge was brilliant. She didn't have to call BS on the Biden DoJ's sweetheart deal.
:roll:

So the Trump appointed judge is NOT a deep stater. Even though her nomination was supported by DE's two Dem Senators. But the Trump appointed prosecutor IS a deep stater.

Serious question for the crumbled Saltine. How do you identify who the deep staters are/are not?

Everyone looks the same. So how can you identify who are really lizard people underneath?

It is a serious problem for the MAGAs.
Illegal gun purchases....at the end of your day.....are still illegal gun purchases.

Has Hunter turned in the illegal gun purchase, or did he grift and gift it to Joes 7th grand child.....yet to be invited to the White house.

It IS ok, to dislike tRump.....and the Biden gang. It IS ok.


The defending this scumbag, is truly interesting. What, positive, ground, are these people hoping to gain ? That, they, are NOT tRump ?

yet....take tRumps corrupt vaccine. :lol: Scott Gotlieb, former FDA guy......works for whom, again ?f f Fh FH.......FHIZER.

carry on...........have some stock to "short" :arrow: :( :( :(
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What would you pay for Hunters art work ?
How much would you pay for a Trump space man NFT?

Or a Melania NFT?

Or a room in the Trump DC hotel?

Or a book written by Don Jr.?

Or for a stake in a private equity fund started by Jared (who has zero experience in private equity and no track record of making PE investments)? Does $2 billion (which produces $30-40 million in annual fees) seem like a good price?
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
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old salt wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:51 pm :lol: ...as always, in your world, everything is D vs R.
As always, you have it backward.

In MY world? Comey and allllll the rest of the FBI, IRS, and DoJ did their jobs just fine over the last decade. Were they perfect? F no. They weren't perfect. But they did their best. That's how MY world operates, OS. No D's. No R's. No Deep State. Just people , doing their jobs.

In YOUR WORLD, the entire FBI, DoJ, and IRS is out to get Republicans. That is YOUR theory, and worldview, NOT mine. And you simply don't have any evidence that fits this view.

And it's why we keep saying absurd this worldview is by pointing out: why the F would registered Republicans and Republican appointees like Comey and Mueller and Wray and Rettig go after the Republican party ONLY, and protect Hunter and Joe Biden and other Dems? It makes ZERO sense.

The rest of us? We just think they're doing their jobs, and that's the end of it. It's why no one here is whining about wasting 5 years to go after Hunter for some boilerplate IRS tax evasion. More power to the IRS.



And again.......I'm ready to walk from this round and round when you are, so.... don't come back and tell me I'm pestering you.
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