We see this every day with college administrators who are the best folks to sit on the other side of a trade from aside from govt employees and community bank CFOs/treasurers.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:00 pmi don't think so? so at a standoff.HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:43 pmYou *could* have that conversation with your coach, doesn't mean you did. If you look at it literally yes it ultimately just boils down to less paperwork now but that's not really the original question IMO and certainly not an interesting one — it's if this new system leads to more transfers than before because of how seamless/student-friendly it is...and I think the answer is yes.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:33 pmprior, you had to ask for your release (and receive it). as it was always granted, there is no difference.HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:58 pmIt's a bit more than that, no? It allows student-athletes to see what's out there very easily without committing to anything. You don't have to be "willing to up and leave" to enter the portal. Say someone from a mid-major enters on a whim without any expectations. Then gets a call from a top 10 school and decides to make the move. That's a transfer that probably would not have happened prior to the existence of the portal. Cormier and Dickson ended up staying at UVA (lucky you) but how many kids in similar situations made the other choice? How many of those kids would have transferred pre-portal? I do think it effectively fosters and to some extent encourages more player movement than before. How much more — for lacrosse specifically? Hard to tell since the numbers have been boosted so much by the Covid craziness. Doc of course is absolutely wrong about not hitting the peak of transfers for lacrosse. He's going to be sorely disappointed by the overall talent pool after this year.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:39 pm is it even possible that regular commenters on this site don't understand that the only thing "the portal" has done for ease of transferring in re: to lacrosse is allow players to send fewer emails (or calls back in the day)?
do they think that young men that are willing to up and leave will only do it now that they don't have to copy and paste 6 emails?
you could have the exact same conversation with your coach (i want to see what my other opportunities are), and be brought back if you were valuable and the coach was amenable. the portal changed none of that.
and no, it's not that interesting. i agree.
but it was that this system leads to more transfers and that means you can't win without a bunch of them and also that you can't be really good and deep because everyone will transfer.
anyway... i was thinking about one of those features that makes the portal useful or user-friendly in all this championship winning. cormier, dickson portalize and come back. 3-4+ years of portals. is there a semi-long list of those guys who have done that and come back to be a biggish piece on a champ contender? top 20 team? asking bc i don't know.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma