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a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:39 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:00 pm Who's got the tin foil hat on ? The Trump Admin judged that improving & maintaining relations with Saudi Arabia was more important.
Khashoggi couldn't be brought back. He knew he was at risk & foolishly exposed himself. We needed the Saudis as a military & economic ally, & still do. Realpolitik. We still promote trade & investment & have diplomatic relations with China, ignoring what they're doing to the Uyghurs.
It's not tinfoil hat. I'm simply calling out obvious shenanigans. If it was in the best interest of our nation? They're be zero need for Kush to get $2Billion.

His service to our nation for his wage would have been compensation enough.
He took a pay cut for 4 years of govt service. He's returning to private business.

imo -- on balance, Kushner furthered US interests in the ME & was part of the guardrail restraining Trump.
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old salt wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:45 am
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:39 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:00 pm Who's got the tin foil hat on ? The Trump Admin judged that improving & maintaining relations with Saudi Arabia was more important.
Khashoggi couldn't be brought back. He knew he was at risk & foolishly exposed himself. We needed the Saudis as a military & economic ally, & still do. Realpolitik. We still promote trade & investment & have diplomatic relations with China, ignoring what they're doing to the Uyghurs.
It's not tinfoil hat. I'm simply calling out obvious shenanigans. If it was in the best interest of our nation? They're be zero need for Kush to get $2Billion.

His service to our nation for his wage would have been compensation enough.
He took a pay cut for 4 years of govt service. He's returning to private business.

imo -- on balance, Kushner furthered US interests in the ME & was part of the guardrail restraining Trump.
That's all good. We're square on that point.

Taking $2 Bill from the Saudis right after working directly with them for the .gov? Gross. Obvious conflict.

Agree to disagree.
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a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:11 am
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:45 am
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:39 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:00 pm Who's got the tin foil hat on ? The Trump Admin judged that improving & maintaining relations with Saudi Arabia was more important.
Khashoggi couldn't be brought back. He knew he was at risk & foolishly exposed himself. We needed the Saudis as a military & economic ally, & still do. Realpolitik. We still promote trade & investment & have diplomatic relations with China, ignoring what they're doing to the Uyghurs.
It's not tinfoil hat. I'm simply calling out obvious shenanigans. If it was in the best interest of our nation? They're be zero need for Kush to get $2Billion.

His service to our nation for his wage would have been compensation enough.
He took a pay cut for 4 years of govt service. He's returning to private business.

imo -- on balance, Kushner furthered US interests in the ME & was part of the guardrail restraining Trump.
That's all good. We're square on that point.

Taking $2 Bill from the Saudis right after working directly with them for the .gov? Gross. Obvious conflict.

Agree to disagree.
The "spin" that Jared Kushner......and ONLY he........getting $ Two billion....is just fear porn.

THIS.....IS, the Hunter Biden thread...and yet, everything, always, goes back to tRump.

the very definition of "whataboutism", which you excel at.

A Yale law school graduate knowingly LIES on a FBI gun application. .......and all the other Biden family stuff.

But, yeah.....let's talk about the Trump family corruption.....again
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Dude -- most of us on here are saying that Hunter's family name monetization is sleazy. We are also saying that Jared's family name monetization is sleazy. Neither is illegal.

Hunter, never a govt official, got about $1M per year for a board seat at Burisma. Total BS.

Jared gets about $25M annually from his $2B investment from the Saudis. Even if his investments generate zero profits. Total BS.

Jared's sleaze is 25X bigger than Hunter's. And Jared was using his govt position to line his pockets. So Jared's sleaze is much worse than Hunter's.

Hunter, by all objective measures, is getting over-punished for his plea bargained crimes. If his last name was not Biden, NFW is he getting investigated for five years and then getting criminal liability. Almost all tax dodgers pay fines and back taxes with zero criminal liability.

Bottom line, Hunter was a crack head. And like most crack heads, he did sleazy things to get money and was bad about paying his taxes. Duh.

P.S. Few people get Salty's boner about the Abraham Accords. Those were a huge gift to Netanyahu (another corrupt rightie) and very good business for the Arab states. But those have made the main ME conflict (Israel/Palestinians) much worse, not better. So from a peace perspective, pretty much an utter failure. But Salty just can't resist anything authoritarian/MAGA.
Boycott stupid. If you ignore the gator troll, eventually he'll just go back under his bridge.
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wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:06 pm Bottom line, Hunter was a crack head. And like most crack heads, he did sleazy things to get money and was bad about paying his taxes. Duh.
You left out that his Dad was involved with the crack heads dealings....was that intentional?
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:02 pm
wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:06 pm Bottom line, Hunter was a crack head. And like most crack heads, he did sleazy things to get money and was bad about paying his taxes. Duh.
You left out that his Dad was involved with the crack heads dealings....was that intentional?
Kindly direct us to actual hard evidence of that claim.
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runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:17 am
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:11 am
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:45 am
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:39 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:00 pm Who's got the tin foil hat on ? The Trump Admin judged that improving & maintaining relations with Saudi Arabia was more important.
Khashoggi couldn't be brought back. He knew he was at risk & foolishly exposed himself. We needed the Saudis as a military & economic ally, & still do. Realpolitik. We still promote trade & investment & have diplomatic relations with China, ignoring what they're doing to the Uyghurs.
It's not tinfoil hat. I'm simply calling out obvious shenanigans. If it was in the best interest of our nation? They're be zero need for Kush to get $2Billion.

His service to our nation for his wage would have been compensation enough.
He took a pay cut for 4 years of govt service. He's returning to private business.

imo -- on balance, Kushner furthered US interests in the ME & was part of the guardrail restraining Trump.
That's all good. We're square on that point.

Taking $2 Bill from the Saudis right after working directly with them for the .gov? Gross. Obvious conflict.

Agree to disagree.
The "spin" that Jared Kushner......and ONLY he........getting $ Two billion....is just fear porn.
Uh oh. I'm "posting wrong" again. Rough day to be me, I guess.
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a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:05 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:17 am
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:11 am
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:45 am
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:39 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:00 pm Who's got the tin foil hat on ? The Trump Admin judged that improving & maintaining relations with Saudi Arabia was more important.
Khashoggi couldn't be brought back. He knew he was at risk & foolishly exposed himself. We needed the Saudis as a military & economic ally, & still do. Realpolitik. We still promote trade & investment & have diplomatic relations with China, ignoring what they're doing to the Uyghurs.
It's not tinfoil hat. I'm simply calling out obvious shenanigans. If it was in the best interest of our nation? They're be zero need for Kush to get $2Billion.

His service to our nation for his wage would have been compensation enough.
He took a pay cut for 4 years of govt service. He's returning to private business.

imo -- on balance, Kushner furthered US interests in the ME & was part of the guardrail restraining Trump.
That's all good. We're square on that point.

Taking $2 Bill from the Saudis right after working directly with them for the .gov? Gross. Obvious conflict.

Agree to disagree.
The "spin" that Jared Kushner......and ONLY he........getting $ Two billion....is just fear porn.
Uh oh. I'm "posting wrong" again. Rough day to be me, I guess.
So Jared is going to have to pay income taxes on $2 billion ? Whatever. A Yale law school grad illegally obtained a gun. Did Jared? Nope....so, apples to apple sauce.

The entire point to this thread is the suppression of anything Hunter Biden........and anything "bad" was thrown into the "laptop" Russian misinformation tin foil hat narrative mold.

Do you disagree with this, AFAN ? That the laptop contents were suppressed ? yes, or no ?

I predict the "asked and answered" reply.
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runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:43 pm The entire point to this thread is the suppression of anything Hunter Biden........and anything "bad" was thrown into the "laptop" Russian misinformation tin foil hat narrative mold.

Do you disagree with this, AFAN ? That the laptop contents were suppressed ? yes, or no ?
Already answered the question.....and you ran away, remember?

If the goal was "truth" (snicker) tell me why Giuliani didn't simply upload the contents ala wikileaks?

Then there's nothing to "suppress".

You ran away from answering this obvious question because it never occurred to you that Giuliani played you and your TinFoilHat pals, and you were embarrassed.

We all get fooled by stuff like this from time to time, RRR. Yours truly, included. It's not a big deal.
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Kismet wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:02 pm
wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:06 pm Bottom line, Hunter was a crack head. And like most crack heads, he did sleazy things to get money and was bad about paying his taxes. Duh.
You left out that his Dad was involved with the crack heads dealings....was that intentional?
Kindly direct us to actual hard evidence of that claim.
Not direct...but we knew that.

The text message time stamps seem to tell story, which provide intent/involvement, then using clear logic.....IF Dad was not involved, then there would be zero weight to Hunters threats of dad being involved. And on the day the tet messages where sent, there is a photo of Hunter at Dad's Delaware home.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:01 pm
Kismet wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:02 pm
wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:06 pm Bottom line, Hunter was a crack head. And like most crack heads, he did sleazy things to get money and was bad about paying his taxes. Duh.
You left out that his Dad was involved with the crack heads dealings....was that intentional?
Kindly direct us to actual hard evidence of that claim.
Not direct...but we knew that.

The text message time stamps seem to tell story, which provide intent/involvement, then using clear logic.....IF Dad was not involved, then there would be zero weight to Hunters threats of dad being involved. And on the day the tet messages where sent, there is a photo of Hunter at Dad's Delaware home.
Thx. No evidence.
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a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:56 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:43 pm The entire point to this thread is the suppression of anything Hunter Biden........and anything "bad" was thrown into the "laptop" Russian misinformation tin foil hat narrative mold.

Do you disagree with this, AFAN ? That the laptop contents were suppressed ? yes, or no ?
Already answered the question.....and you ran away, remember?

If the goal was "truth" (snicker) tell me why Giuliani didn't simply upload the contents ala wikileaks?

Then there's nothing to "suppress".

You ran away from answering this obvious question because it never occurred to you that Giuliani played you and your TinFoilHat pals, and you were embarrassed.

We all get fooled by stuff like this from time to time, RRR. Yours truly, included. It's not a big deal.
seriously have zero idea as to what you are talking about.

Are comments like "tinfoilhat pals" really necessary ?
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Kismet wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:08 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:01 pm
Kismet wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:02 pm
wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:06 pm Bottom line, Hunter was a crack head. And like most crack heads, he did sleazy things to get money and was bad about paying his taxes. Duh.
You left out that his Dad was involved with the crack heads dealings....was that intentional?
Kindly direct us to actual hard evidence of that claim.
Not direct...but we knew that.

The text message time stamps seem to tell story, which provide intent/involvement, then using clear logic.....IF Dad was not involved, then there would be zero weight to Hunters threats of dad being involved. And on the day the tet messages where sent, there is a photo of Hunter at Dad's Delaware home.
Thx. No evidence.
Aren't guilty pleas evidence?

Hunter has already plead guilty. To Federal , illegal, gun charges.

Now head on back to that "gun control " thread and tell us all "whats what"
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runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:09 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:56 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:43 pm The entire point to this thread is the suppression of anything Hunter Biden........and anything "bad" was thrown into the "laptop" Russian misinformation tin foil hat narrative mold.

Do you disagree with this, AFAN ? That the laptop contents were suppressed ? yes, or no ?
Already answered the question.....and you ran away, remember?

If the goal was "truth" (snicker) tell me why Giuliani didn't simply upload the contents ala wikileaks?

Then there's nothing to "suppress".

You ran away from answering this obvious question because it never occurred to you that Giuliani played you and your TinFoilHat pals, and you were embarrassed.

We all get fooled by stuff like this from time to time, RRR. Yours truly, included. It's not a big deal.
seriously have zero idea as to what you are talking about.
:lol: I love that you, of all people, are hitting me for being unclear. Fine.

1. RRR made the claim that Hunter's laptop contents were "being suppressed"

2. Rudy Giuliani is the one who was given the harddrive copy of Hunter's laptop by the Computer Store owner.

3. Rudy Giuliani ONLY gave some/all of the harddrive to the NYPost before the 2020 election. Just them. No one else.

4. My question, for the third time is: if the concern is that the contents of Hunters laptop are being suppressed by some nefarious actors, why didn't Rudy Giuliani simply upload the contents online, where everyone can see them?

5. That would dodge any claims of suppression, because EVERYONE could see them before the election, instead of ONLY the NYPost.


Got it? Good. Now......you have an answer as to why Giuliani, in his quest to get the truth to the world about Hunter's laptop.....didn't just upload the contents?

I'll wait for your answer. Again.
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a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:16 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:09 pm
a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:56 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:43 pm The entire point to this thread is the suppression of anything Hunter Biden........and anything "bad" was thrown into the "laptop" Russian misinformation tin foil hat narrative mold.

Do you disagree with this, AFAN ? That the laptop contents were suppressed ? yes, or no ?
Already answered the question.....and you ran away, remember?

If the goal was "truth" (snicker) tell me why Giuliani didn't simply upload the contents ala wikileaks?

Then there's nothing to "suppress".

You ran away from answering this obvious question because it never occurred to you that Giuliani played you and your TinFoilHat pals, and you were embarrassed.

We all get fooled by stuff like this from time to time, RRR. Yours truly, included. It's not a big deal.
seriously have zero idea as to what you are talking about.
:lol: I love that you, of all people, are hitting me for being unclear. Fine.

1. RRR made the claim that Hunter's laptop contents were "being suppressed"

2. Rudy Giuliani is the one who was given the harddrive copy of Hunter's laptop by the Computer Store owner.

3. Rudy Giuliani ONLY gave some/all of the harddrive to the NYPost before the 2020 election. Just them. No one else.

4. My question, for the third time is: if the concern is that the contents of Hunters laptop are being suppressed by some nefarious actors, why didn't Rudy Giuliani simply upload the contents online, where everyone can see them? They were suppressed. Only AFAN disputes that it wasn't

5. That would dodge any claims of suppression, because EVERYONE could see them before the election, instead of ONLY the NYPost.

Could I send you the NY Post story as a link on this very website ? nope. that was trolllike behavior. remembers?

Howz about the NY Post link on fecesbook or twatter ? Nope........certainly a challenge, and , again, all concerned admit to doing their very best to suppress the NY POST story. only afan disputes this fact. Only you.



Got it? Good. Now......you have an answer as to why Giuliani, in his quest to get the truth to the world about Hunter's laptop.....didn't just upload the contents?

I'll wait for your answer. Again.
why the need to add "again" ?

"that's NOT a good look"

or

"you'll get a better look next time "


which coach would YOU want to play for? your offspring ?

you can dance in the "hypothetical" why didn't G.....all day long. According to you, he gave the story to the NY Post. And only the NY Post.

The NY Post "hunter" laptop was suppressed. No one disputes this fact. Not even the folks that did the suppressing.

Should we trust Wiki , about covid mRNA vaccines? They mention "side effects", like blood clotting. Did your doctor mention any ?

Wiki isn't a professional....but, the unprincipled flock to it as if life itself ... go wiki
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runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:50 pm why the need to add "again" ?
Because this is the third time I've asked you.

And for the third time, you refuse to answer the question.

Because you know what the answer is, and you don't like the answer. And you have no interest in anything but picking fights.

So by all means....just run away.
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a fan wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:35 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:40 am The laptop issue is very simple. It is either HBs laptop or it is not. That is the most basic question that should be answered.
Not simple at all. I can put ANYTHING on a laptop. So can you. Not only do we not know it was his.....even if it was at some point...anyone can put anything they like on it that they want.

This is a non-story. October surprise. Dirty tricks.

We'll see more of this stuff in the future, sadly.
Your words.

Doesn't sound like "good, he SHOULD be investigated" type of narrative, now does it ? :lol: :lol:

still can't find that NY Post link on this thread.......... :roll:
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a fan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:07 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 3:50 pm why the need to add "again" ?
Because this is the third time I've asked you.

And for the third time, you refuse to answer the question.

Because you know what the answer is, and you don't like the answer. And you have no interest in anything but picking fights.

So by all means....just run away.
dude....have zero interest in you or interacting with said you.

from DAY ONE (your first post on this thread ) you were all in in defending the Bidens'

What the heck IS wrong with you ? Even Zuckerberg admits to drowning/surpressing the NY Post story.......

which page is the NY Post link on in this thread ? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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mab mahn....the first 40 pages on this thread didn't age well.

not surprised you are not embarrassed by the usual suspects comments.

let us guess...admin banned the ny post "poster" for Putinlike troll behavior.

still can't find the original NY Post on any page in all of this thread.
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runrussellrun wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:58 pm
dude....have zero interest in you or interacting with said you.
Outstanding news. Leave me alone, then.
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