The Biden - Harris Era.

[NattyBohChamps04]

I hate Trump. He was unaware of what he even had at his own home. Risking the safety of the nation by keeping classified documents there. Unacceptable.

I love Biden. He is a great steward of information, always protecting the national security of the country.

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/ ... 69381?s=20

Of course that's not the argument being made in the indictment. Or in general. But keep trying to frame it that way to make yourself feel better.

Can you find anyone on here who actually approved of Biden's or Pence's original mishandling of those docs?

Clown show.

[a fan]

I hate Trump. He was unaware of what he even had at his own home. Risking the safety of the nation by keeping classified documents there. Unacceptable.

I love Biden. He is a great steward of information, always protecting the national security of the country.

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/ ... 69381?s=20

Of course that's not the argument being made in the indictment. Or in general. But keep trying to frame it that way to make yourself feel better.

Can you find anyone on here who actually approved of Biden's or Pence's original mishandling of those docs?

Clown show.

Or find a single poster who is a Biden fan.

Or worse, a Biden apologist.

Your party is broken, Kram.....you yourself made excuses for Trump's shenanigans.

[Typical Lax Dad]

I hate Trump. He was unaware of what he even had at his own home. Risking the safety of the nation by keeping classified documents there. Unacceptable.

I love Biden. He is a great steward of information, always protecting the national security of the country.

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/ ... 69381?s=20

Of course that's not the argument being made in the indictment. Or in general. But keep trying to frame it that way to make yourself feel better.

Can you find anyone on here who actually approved of Biden's or Pence's original mishandling of those docs?

Clown show.

Or find a single poster who is a Biden fan.

Or worse, a Biden apologist.

Your party is broken, Kram.....you yourself made excuses for Trump's shenanigans.

He also likes his policies.

[kramerica.inc]

All his policies, no. Not even close. How he picked fights with everything and was divisive? No. Absolutely not.
Feelings on the usefulness of certain parts of the gov't and embedded, career politicians? Moreso.
I agree that some government is needed. I also think that everyone deserves the right to do what they want and be left alone. So we probably agree with more social issues than you think. But it isn't the Gov'ts job to save us from every potential scenario. Gov't agancies have done nothing but grow unchecked during my lifetime and tried to insert itself into every bit of our lives. It's simply not needed to that extent.
My old party is indeed mostly broken. It ain't coming back. But at this point, until someone who wants to use government smartly or collaboratively with both sides comes along, we're gonna have to cordially disagree. IMO the Republican's having no plan, no vision, and playing obstructionist is still better than the Democrat's current version of "progress." A fan and I have talked a lot about what type of leader I'd love for my old party. And it more resembles a Kasich type rather than Trump or the short guy from Florida.

[MDlaxfan76]

All his policies, no. Not even close. How he picked fights with everything and was divisive? No. Absolutely not.
Feelings on the usefulness of certain parts of the gov't and embedded, career politicians? Moreso.
I agree that some government is needed. I also think that everyone deserves the right to do what they want and be left alone. So we probably agree with more social issues than you think. But it isn't the Gov'ts job to save us from every potential scenario. Gov't agancies have done nothing but grow unchecked during my lifetime and tried to insert itself into every bit of our lives. It's simply not needed to that extent.
My old party is indeed mostly broken. It ain't coming back. But at this point, until someone who wants to use government smartly or collaboratively with both sides comes along, we're gonna have to cordially disagree. IMO the Republican's having no plan, no vision, and playing obstructionist is still better than the Democrat's current version of "progress." A fan and I have talked a lot about what type of leader I'd love for my old party. And it more resembles a Kasich type rather than Trump or the short guy from Florida.

I've not given up for a "return" of a GOP that is credible, "who wants to use government smartly or collaboratively with both sides".

Unfortunately, until our party, the GOP, loses so ignominiously and repeatedly that the MAGA fever is fully broken, those candidates aren't going to be our choices...at least at the federal level.

And I see MAGA as worse than nearly all of the Dem candidates we get offered up.

So...folks like me gotta hold our noses and vote against the MAGA candidates even if that means voting for the party with whom we've never been fully comfortable, including for the reasons you describe.

Break the fever, reject the cult.

[a fan]

All his policies, no. Not even close. How he picked fights with everything and was divisive? No. Absolutely not.
Feelings on the usefulness of certain parts of the gov't and embedded, career politicians? Moreso.
I agree that some government is needed. I also think that everyone deserves the right to do what they want and be left alone. So we probably agree with more social issues than you think. But it isn't the Gov'ts job to save us from every potential scenario. Gov't agancies have done nothing but grow unchecked during my lifetime and tried to insert itself into every bit of our lives. It's simply not needed to that extent.

You haven't presented the alternative. Neither has anyone in your party.

We TRIED it your way from Reagan up until now....laissez faire. Get rid of Unions. Open up unfettered trade. That was my preferred way, too. Until I realized that it didn't work, which was in my mid 20's.

Unfettered trade by its very logic means that labor will move to the average. Which is why US wages stagnated/fell over the last 40 years.

You cannot get America to where you want it without massive government intervention coupled with Unions. Which is PRECISELY what you got with the GI Bill coupled with Housing via Fed.gov and strong unions. All supported and paid in full via higher taxes, and fair corporate taxes pre-overseas shelters.

Then Reagan came along, and ripped it all apart. Clinton added fire to the gasoline of Reagan. And it all burnt down.

It's why the libs will win....you guys can't pull your sh(t together, and offer an alternative. Things like restarting trade guilds and unions, and pumping Federally purchased free training for blue collar jobs. No one in your party has enough imagination to do even the bare minimum to help the working class.

So what do they do? Shotgun money around every chance they get....and cut taxes so we have to borrow every penny of the economic stimulus.

Make me king for a day. I could fix all these issues, all while adhering to ACTUAL conservative principles. Your team doesn't want that any more, sadly.

[tech37]

I hate Trump. He was unaware of what he even had at his own home. Risking the safety of the nation by keeping classified documents there. Unacceptable.

I love Biden. He is a great steward of information, always protecting the national security of the country.

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/ ... 69381?s=20

Of course that's not the argument being made in the indictment. Or in general. But keep trying to frame it that way to make yourself feel better.

Can you find anyone on here who actually approved of Biden's or Pence's original mishandling of those docs?

Clown show.

Or find a single poster who is a Biden fan.

Or worse, a Biden apologist.

This is humorous. Biden is their savior and that includes many posters on here...they just don't say much now because Biden has been so embarrassing. But don't be fooled, the useful idiot beat Trump and nothing else matters. Biden fulfilled every Trump-hating progressive's dream. There are no Biden apologists since the end justifies the means.

[NattyBohChamps04]

This is humorous. Biden is their savior and that includes many posters on here...they just don't say much now because Biden has been so embarrassing. But don't be fooled, the useful idiot beat Trump and nothing else matters. Biden fulfilled every Trump-hating progressive's dream. There are no Biden apologists since the end justifies the means.

Embarassing? He's stumbled a few times, but I wouldn't call him an embarassment at all. A hell of a lot less embarassing than the dumpster fire before him. But I guess he's an embarassment if you only focus on his few stumbles and not the other things he's done.

Of course the media, especially the right wing, likes to focus on the stumbles and faux scandals. Gets eyeballs while positive stuff doesn't.

• Didn't try to overthrow an election
• passed the Inflation Reduction Act, the biggest investment in fighting climate change in history
• passed the bipartisan infrastructure bill, the largest investment in infrastructure since Eisenhower
• passed the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, breaking a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence legislation
• signed the CHIPS and Science Act into law
• took out the leader of al Qaeda
• followed through with ending America's longest war with minimal loss of American lives
• reauthorized and strengthened the Violence Against Women Act
• signed the PACT Act, a bill to address veteran burn pit exposure
• signed the NATO accession protocols for Sweden and Finland
• issued executive order to protect reproductive rights
• in the process of canceling $10,000 of student loan debt for borrowers making less than $125,000 and canceled $20,000 in debt for Pell Grant recipients
• canceled billions in student loan debt for borrowers who were defrauded
• nominated now-Supreme Court Associate Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson to replace Justice Breyer
• brought COVID under control in the U.S. (e.g., COVID deaths down 90% and over 220 million vaccinated)
• formed Monkeypox response team to reach communities at highest risk of contracting the virus
• unemployment at a 50-year low
• largest one-year deficit reduction in U.S. history (yes there are extenuating circumstances)
• limited the release of mercury from coal-burning power plants
• $5 billion for electric vehicle chargers- $119 billion budget surplus in January 2022, first in over two years
• united world against Russia’s war in Ukraine
• ended forced arbitration in workplace sexual assault cases
• reinstated California authority to set pollution standards for cars
• ended asylum restrictions for children traveling alone
• signed the Emmett Till Anti-Lynching Act, the first federal ban on lynching after 200 failed attempts
• Initiated “use it or lose it" policy for drilling on public lands to force oil companies to increase production
• released 1 million barrels of oil a day for 6 months from strategic reserves to ease gas prices
• rescinded Trump-era policy allowing rapid expulsion of migrants
• expunged student loan defaults
• overhauled USPS finances to allow the agency to modernize its service
• required federal dollars spent on infrastructure to use materials made in America
• restored environmental reviews for major infrastructure projects
• Launched $6 billion effort to save distressed nuclear plants
• provided $385 million to help families and individuals with home energy costs through the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program. (This is in addition to $4.5 billion provided in the American Rescue Plan.)
• national registry of police officers who are fired for misconduct
• tightened restrictions on chokeholds, no-knock warrants, and transfer of military equipment to police departments
• required all federal law enforcement officers to wear body cameras
• $265 million for South Florida reservoir, key component of Everglades restoration
• major wind farm project off West coast to provide electricity for 1.5 million homes
• continued Obama administration's practice of posting log records of visitors to White House
• devoted $2.1 billion to strengthen US food supply chain
• invoked Defense Production Act to rapidly expand domestic production of critical clean energy technologies
• enacted two-year pause of anti-circumvention tariffs on solar
• allocated funds to federal agencies to counter 300-plus anti-LGBTQ laws by state lawmakers in 2022
• relaunched cancer 'moonshot' initiative to help cut death rate
• expanded access to emergency contraception and long-acting reversible contraception
• prevented states from banning Mifepristone, a medication used to end early pregnancy that has FDA approval
• 21 executive actions to reduce gun violence
• Climate Smart Buildings Initiative: Creates public-private partnerships to modernize Federal buildings to meet agencies’ missions, create good-paying jobs, and cut greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions
• Paying for today’s needed renovations with tomorrow’s energy savings without requiring upfront taxpayer funding
  ended Trump-era “Remain in Mexico” policy
• Operation Fly-Formula, bringing needed baby formula (19 missions to date)
• executive order protecting travel for abortion
• invested more in crime control and prevention than any president in history
• provided death, disability, and education benefits to public safety officers and survivors who are killed or injured in the line of duty
• Reunited 500 migrant families separated under Trump
• $1.66 billion in grants to transit agencies, territories, and states to invest in 150 bus fleets and facilities
• brokered joint US/Mexico infrastructure project; Mexico to pay $1.5 billion for US border security
• blocked 4 hospital mergers that would've driven up prices and is poised to thwart more anti-competition consolidation attempts
• 11 million jobs—more than ever created before at this point of a presidency
• record small business creation
• banned paywalls on taxpayer-funded research
• best economic growth record since Clinton
• eliminated civil statute of limitations for child abuse victims
• announced $156 million for America's first-of-its-kind critical minerals refinery, demonstrating the commercial viability of turning mine waste into clean energy technology.

But I guess he's fallen off his bike and misspoken a couple of times. Incredible embarassment.

[a fan]

This is humorous. Biden is their savior and that includes many posters on here...they just don't say much now because Biden has been so embarrassing.

It's a question of degree. Biden didn't replace Lincoln. He replaced Trump. So no matter how dumb Biden behaves....because he's not saying idiotic things like "mexico will pay for the wall"....no one cares.

So everyone ignores what Biden says, because Trump threw the bar on the ground, and ANYONE can get over that bar when it comes to speeches or actions.

And if you recall? I warned the Forum (I'll leave you out of it) that this was coming when folks made claims of "TDS" when they dared to criticize the things Trump did and said. Told you that no amount of corruption or idiocy would be so much as noticed for the next POTUS......

But don't be fooled, the useful idiot beat Trump and nothing else matters. Biden fulfilled every Trump-hating progressive's dream.

Wrong. Progressives hate Biden. You're thinking of Dems and, well, most Americans who aren't utter morons. Even Old Salt will tell you Trump was unfit for office.

Biden is governing to the right of Trump, btw. Ukraine is a patented neo-con move, for example. Military spending is WAY up under Biden, for another example.

There are no Biden apologists since the end justifies the means.

Nope. There are no Biden apologists because rational people don't care what he says anymore...again, because of both Trump, and the way that millions of Americans supported Trump no matter what he said or did. So now that a doddering old man is in charge? They're back to tuning out.

i support one thing he did 100%, and that's the infrastructure bill. This will send billions of badly needed infrastructure funds to flyover America for things like broadband. Something even libertarians support.

I don't support the war in Ukraine, and arming them Ukraine since we didn't have a treaty with them....... but knew that's what yet another rightwing POTUS would do, and that's what Biden gave us. Could see that coming a mile away, in the same way that Biden "forgot" to eliminate Trump's corporate tax cuts.

Then there's the Chip Act. Another smart move to pull us out of the stupid Taiwan war games with China. Bravo to him for that. Butter, not guns.

[kramerica.inc]

I hate Trump. He was unaware of what he even had at his own home. Risking the safety of the nation by keeping classified documents there. Unacceptable.

I love Biden. He is a great steward of information, always protecting the national security of the country.

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/ ... 69381?s=20

Of course that's not the argument being made in the indictment. Or in general. But keep trying to frame it that way to make yourself feel better.

Can you find anyone on here who actually approved of Biden's or Pence's original mishandling of those docs?

Clown show.

Or find a single poster who is a Biden fan.

Or worse, a Biden apologist.

Biden fan? Biden apologists?

Nope, none of those around these parts...

Embarassing? He's stumbled a few times, but I wouldn't call him an embarassment at all. A hell of a lot less embarassing than the dumpster fire before him. But I guess he's an embarassment if you only focus on his few stumbles and not the other things he's done.

Of course the media, especially the right wing, likes to focus on the stumbles and faux scandals. Gets eyeballs while positive stuff doesn't.

• Didn't try to overthrow an election
• passed the Inflation Reduction Act, the biggest investment in fighting climate change in history
• passed the bipartisan infrastructure bill, the largest investment in infrastructure since Eisenhower
• passed the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, breaking a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence legislation
• signed the CHIPS and Science Act into law
• took out the leader of al Qaeda
• followed through with ending America's longest war with minimal loss of American lives
• reauthorized and strengthened the Violence Against Women Act
• signed the PACT Act, a bill to address veteran burn pit exposure
• signed the NATO accession protocols for Sweden and Finland
• issued executive order to protect reproductive rights
• in the process of canceling $10,000 of student loan debt for borrowers making less than $125,000 and canceled $20,000 in debt for Pell Grant recipients
• canceled billions in student loan debt for borrowers who were defrauded
• nominated now-Supreme Court Associate Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson to replace Justice Breyer
• brought COVID under control in the U.S. (e.g., COVID deaths down 90% and over 220 million vaccinated)
• formed Monkeypox response team to reach communities at highest risk of contracting the virus
• unemployment at a 50-year low
• largest one-year deficit reduction in U.S. history (yes there are extenuating circumstances)
• limited the release of mercury from coal-burning power plants
• $5 billion for electric vehicle chargers- $119 billion budget surplus in January 2022, first in over two years
• united world against Russia’s war in Ukraine
• ended forced arbitration in workplace sexual assault cases
• reinstated California authority to set pollution standards for cars
• ended asylum restrictions for children traveling alone
• signed the Emmett Till Anti-Lynching Act, the first federal ban on lynching after 200 failed attempts
• Initiated “use it or lose it" policy for drilling on public lands to force oil companies to increase production
• released 1 million barrels of oil a day for 6 months from strategic reserves to ease gas prices
• rescinded Trump-era policy allowing rapid expulsion of migrants
• expunged student loan defaults
• overhauled USPS finances to allow the agency to modernize its service
• required federal dollars spent on infrastructure to use materials made in America
• restored environmental reviews for major infrastructure projects
• Launched $6 billion effort to save distressed nuclear plants
• provided $385 million to help families and individuals with home energy costs through the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program. (This is in addition to $4.5 billion provided in the American Rescue Plan.)
• national registry of police officers who are fired for misconduct
• tightened restrictions on chokeholds, no-knock warrants, and transfer of military equipment to police departments
• required all federal law enforcement officers to wear body cameras
• $265 million for South Florida reservoir, key component of Everglades restoration
• major wind farm project off West coast to provide electricity for 1.5 million homes
• continued Obama administration's practice of posting log records of visitors to White House
• devoted $2.1 billion to strengthen US food supply chain
• invoked Defense Production Act to rapidly expand domestic production of critical clean energy technologies
• enacted two-year pause of anti-circumvention tariffs on solar
• allocated funds to federal agencies to counter 300-plus anti-LGBTQ laws by state lawmakers in 2022
• relaunched cancer 'moonshot' initiative to help cut death rate
• expanded access to emergency contraception and long-acting reversible contraception
• prevented states from banning Mifepristone, a medication used to end early pregnancy that has FDA approval
• 21 executive actions to reduce gun violence
• Climate Smart Buildings Initiative: Creates public-private partnerships to modernize Federal buildings to meet agencies’ missions, create good-paying jobs, and cut greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions
• Paying for today’s needed renovations with tomorrow’s energy savings without requiring upfront taxpayer funding
  ended Trump-era “Remain in Mexico” policy
• Operation Fly-Formula, bringing needed baby formula (19 missions to date)
• executive order protecting travel for abortion
• invested more in crime control and prevention than any president in history
• provided death, disability, and education benefits to public safety officers and survivors who are killed or injured in the line of duty
• Reunited 500 migrant families separated under Trump
• $1.66 billion in grants to transit agencies, territories, and states to invest in 150 bus fleets and facilities
• brokered joint US/Mexico infrastructure project; Mexico to pay $1.5 billion for US border security
• blocked 4 hospital mergers that would've driven up prices and is poised to thwart more anti-competition consolidation attempts
• 11 million jobs—more than ever created before at this point of a presidency
• record small business creation
• banned paywalls on taxpayer-funded research
• best economic growth record since Clinton
• eliminated civil statute of limitations for child abuse victims
• announced $156 million for America's first-of-its-kind critical minerals refinery, demonstrating the commercial viability of turning mine waste into clean energy technology.

But I guess he's fallen off his bike and misspoken a couple of times. Incredible embarassment.

[a fan]

Biden fan? Biden apologists?

Nope, none of those around these parts...

I've listed things Trump has done that I've liked. Can do it again for you. Can even list things I've liked where he did nothing, and simply kept his powder dry.

Do you consider me to be a Trump fan, or a Trump apologist?

[kramerica.inc]

Biden fan? Biden apologists?

Nope, none of those around these parts...

I've listed things Trump has done that I've liked. Can do it again for you. Can even list things I've liked where he did nothing, and simply kept his powder dry.

Do you consider me to be a Trump fan, or a Trump apologist?

If you went through the trouble of compiling a list like that, yes.

But no matter who we're talking about, I'd say you were "a fan."

[a fan]

Biden fan? Biden apologists?

Nope, none of those around these parts...

I've listed things Trump has done that I've liked. Can do it again for you. Can even list things I've liked where he did nothing, and simply kept his powder dry.

Do you consider me to be a Trump fan, or a Trump apologist?

If you went through the trouble of compiling a list like that, yes.

But no matter who we're talking about, I'd say you were "a fan."

If he actually wrote that himself? I agree.

It's a cut and paste job, used for effect. Natty isn't driving a pickup truck with a massive Biden flag on it.

He's just glad Trump is in our rearview mirror.

[tech37]

This is humorous. Biden is their savior and that includes many posters on here...they just don't say much now because Biden has been so embarrassing. But don't be fooled, the useful idiot beat Trump and nothing else matters. Biden fulfilled every Trump-hating progressive's dream. There are no Biden apologists since the end justifies the means.

Embarassing? He's stumbled a few times, but I wouldn't call him an embarassment at all. A hell of a lot less embarassing than the dumpster fire before him. But I guess he's an embarassment if you only focus on his few stumbles and not the other things he's done.

Of course the media, especially the right wing, likes to focus on the stumbles and faux scandals. Gets eyeballs while positive stuff doesn't.

• Didn't try to overthrow an election
• passed the Inflation Reduction Act, the biggest investment in fighting climate change in history
• passed the bipartisan infrastructure bill, the largest investment in infrastructure since Eisenhower
• passed the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, breaking a 30-year streak of federal inaction on gun violence legislation
• signed the CHIPS and Science Act into law
• took out the leader of al Qaeda
• followed through with ending America's longest war with minimal loss of American lives
• reauthorized and strengthened the Violence Against Women Act
• signed the PACT Act, a bill to address veteran burn pit exposure
• signed the NATO accession protocols for Sweden and Finland
• issued executive order to protect reproductive rights
• in the process of canceling $10,000 of student loan debt for borrowers making less than $125,000 and canceled $20,000 in debt for Pell Grant recipients
• canceled billions in student loan debt for borrowers who were defrauded
• nominated now-Supreme Court Associate Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson to replace Justice Breyer
• brought COVID under control in the U.S. (e.g., COVID deaths down 90% and over 220 million vaccinated)
• formed Monkeypox response team to reach communities at highest risk of contracting the virus
• unemployment at a 50-year low
• largest one-year deficit reduction in U.S. history (yes there are extenuating circumstances)
• limited the release of mercury from coal-burning power plants
• $5 billion for electric vehicle chargers- $119 billion budget surplus in January 2022, first in over two years
• united world against Russia’s war in Ukraine
• ended forced arbitration in workplace sexual assault cases
• reinstated California authority to set pollution standards for cars
• ended asylum restrictions for children traveling alone
• signed the Emmett Till Anti-Lynching Act, the first federal ban on lynching after 200 failed attempts
• Initiated “use it or lose it" policy for drilling on public lands to force oil companies to increase production
• released 1 million barrels of oil a day for 6 months from strategic reserves to ease gas prices
• rescinded Trump-era policy allowing rapid expulsion of migrants
• expunged student loan defaults
• overhauled USPS finances to allow the agency to modernize its service
• required federal dollars spent on infrastructure to use materials made in America
• restored environmental reviews for major infrastructure projects
• Launched $6 billion effort to save distressed nuclear plants
• provided $385 million to help families and individuals with home energy costs through the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program. (This is in addition to $4.5 billion provided in the American Rescue Plan.)
• national registry of police officers who are fired for misconduct
• tightened restrictions on chokeholds, no-knock warrants, and transfer of military equipment to police departments
• required all federal law enforcement officers to wear body cameras
• $265 million for South Florida reservoir, key component of Everglades restoration
• major wind farm project off West coast to provide electricity for 1.5 million homes
• continued Obama administration's practice of posting log records of visitors to White House
• devoted $2.1 billion to strengthen US food supply chain
• invoked Defense Production Act to rapidly expand domestic production of critical clean energy technologies
• enacted two-year pause of anti-circumvention tariffs on solar
• allocated funds to federal agencies to counter 300-plus anti-LGBTQ laws by state lawmakers in 2022
• relaunched cancer 'moonshot' initiative to help cut death rate
• expanded access to emergency contraception and long-acting reversible contraception
• prevented states from banning Mifepristone, a medication used to end early pregnancy that has FDA approval
• 21 executive actions to reduce gun violence
• Climate Smart Buildings Initiative: Creates public-private partnerships to modernize Federal buildings to meet agencies’ missions, create good-paying jobs, and cut greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions
• Paying for today’s needed renovations with tomorrow’s energy savings without requiring upfront taxpayer funding
  ended Trump-era “Remain in Mexico” policy
• Operation Fly-Formula, bringing needed baby formula (19 missions to date)
• executive order protecting travel for abortion
• invested more in crime control and prevention than any president in history
• provided death, disability, and education benefits to public safety officers and survivors who are killed or injured in the line of duty
• Reunited 500 migrant families separated under Trump
• $1.66 billion in grants to transit agencies, territories, and states to invest in 150 bus fleets and facilities
• brokered joint US/Mexico infrastructure project; Mexico to pay $1.5 billion for US border security
• blocked 4 hospital mergers that would've driven up prices and is poised to thwart more anti-competition consolidation attempts
• 11 million jobs—more than ever created before at this point of a presidency
• record small business creation
• banned paywalls on taxpayer-funded research
• best economic growth record since Clinton
• eliminated civil statute of limitations for child abuse victims
• announced $156 million for America's first-of-its-kind critical minerals refinery, demonstrating the commercial viability of turning mine waste into clean energy technology.

But I guess he's fallen off his bike and misspoken a couple of times. Incredible embarassment.

Yep... a captive believer...

[Seacoaster(1)]

At least Biden tries to govern, plan and execute policies, and old, out of date stuff like that. On the other side there is Comer, Andy Biggs, Boebert, Greene, Santos, and the invertebrate Speaker, doing literally nothing but perform and prop up the electoral prospects of a moron. Cheney says the root problem is that the country is electing idiots; she's not talking about Democrats.

[tech37]

This is humorous. Biden is their savior and that includes many posters on here...they just don't say much now because Biden has been so embarrassing.

It's a question of degree. Biden didn't replace Lincoln. He replaced Trump. So no matter how dumb Biden behaves....because he's not saying idiotic things like "mexico will pay for the wall"....no one cares.

So everyone ignores what Biden says, because Trump threw the bar on the ground, and ANYONE can get over that bar when it comes to speeches or actions.
Ha! We're saying the same thing but in different languages I guess. At least we're agreeing for once... I think.

But don't be fooled, the useful idiot beat Trump and nothing else matters. Biden fulfilled every Trump-hating progressive's dream.

Wrong. Progressives hate Biden. You're thinking of Dems and, well, most Americans who aren't utter morons. Even Old Salt will tell you Trump was unfit for office.
A lot of generalizations here a fan. Some progressives may not like some policies but deep in their souls, love him, for the very reasons above (their useful idiot).

"most Americans who aren't utter morons"? Maybe. Let's say Trump survives the primary and runs against Kamala... a lot of so-called "morons" will be born over night in that case.

"Even Old Salt"? I said more than once years ago that Trump should not be allowed to run again. Going way back, I said if Trump breaks any laws and they can prove it, fine by me if he's in the slammer.

Look it up if you don't believe me.

Biden is governing to the right of Trump, btw. Ukraine is a patented neo-con move, for example. Military spending is WAY up under Biden, for another example.
Biden's foreign policy? Please let's not even go there.

There are no Biden apologists since the end justifies the means.

Nope. There are no Biden apologists because rational people don't care what he says anymore...again, because of both Trump, and the way that millions of Americans supported Trump no matter what he said or did. So now that a doddering old man is in charge? They're back to tuning out.
This is redundant and i agree.

i support one thing he did 100%, and that's the infrastructure bill. This will send billions of badly needed infrastructure funds to flyover America for things like broadband. Something even libertarians support.
Maybe.

I don't support the war in Ukraine, and arming them Ukraine since we didn't have a treaty with them....... but knew that's what yet another rightwing POTUS would do, and that's what Biden gave us. Could see that coming a mile away, in the same way that Biden "forgot" to eliminate Trump's corporate tax cuts.
I agree on Ukraine and have said as much on here.

Do you think Biden Admin's zeal to destroy Putin has anything to do with the botched Afghan pullout? Great way to save face, look tough in eyes of world leaders after such a disaster?

Then there's the Chip Act. Another smart move to pull us out of the stupid Taiwan war games with China. Bravo to him for that. Butter, not guns.
Again, maybe.

[tech37]

At least Biden tries to govern, plan and execute policies, and old, out of date stuff like that. On the other side there is Comer, Andy Biggs, Boebert, Greene, Santos, and the invertebrate Speaker, doing literally nothing but perform and prop up the electoral prospects of a moron. Cheney says the root problem is that the country is electing idiots; she's not talking about Democrats.

After how the Dems, MSM, FBI/DOJ have comported themselves over the last few years, what would you expect?

[Seacoaster(1)]

At least Biden tries to govern, plan and execute policies, and old, out of date stuff like that. On the other side there is Comer, Andy Biggs, Boebert, Greene, Santos, and the invertebrate Speaker, doing literally nothing but perform and prop up the electoral prospects of a moron. Cheney says the root problem is that the country is electing idiots; she's not talking about Democrats.

After how the Dems, MSM, FBI/DOJ have comported themselves over the last few years, what would you expect?

The first part of your sentence is silly, of course, but I expect a political party to attempt to govern. Roll out proposed bills, negotiate in good faith aimed at consensus. The GOP appears to have stopped doing this.

[tech37]

At least Biden tries to govern, plan and execute policies, and old, out of date stuff like that. On the other side there is Comer, Andy Biggs, Boebert, Greene, Santos, and the invertebrate Speaker, doing literally nothing but perform and prop up the electoral prospects of a moron. Cheney says the root problem is that the country is electing idiots; she's not talking about Democrats.

After how the Dems, MSM, FBI/DOJ have comported themselves over the last few years, what would you expect?

The first part of your sentence is silly, of course, but I expect a political party to attempt to govern. Roll out proposed bills, negotiate in good faith aimed at consensus. The GOP appears to have stopped doing this.

Ha! I'm being silly... You cast blame in one direction only. That's beyond silly.

[NattyBohChamps04]

Biden fan? Biden apologists?

Nope, none of those around these parts...

Not a Biden fan, as I don't like voting for corporatist Democrats. But I'll vote for him every day and twice on Sunday if Trump or a Trump-lite is running. Didn't like voting for Hillary either but I'd do it again in a heartbeat against Trump.

I posted that (pasted from Reddit) because very few people actually post Biden's accomplishments and wins. We don't hear about them a lot. He's boringly competent in most arenas. And most of those "wins" are terribly watered down to try to compromise with the obstructionist R's. Just like the ACA.

And yep, no Biden flag on my boat, but I do have to distract my kids when the uncensored F*CK BIDEN flags roll past.

If he commits crimes, he can suffer the same fate as Trump.

How's that?