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old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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old salt wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
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old salt wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
What do the Obama's say about all this?

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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:42 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
Stole and sold classified documents
Nah....that was Billy Clinton and our satellite blue prints.

Chelsea got paid HOW much to be a TV star ?

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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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old salt wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
Did Joe have "show jobs"?
Did anyone doing so have an official position in the White House or a job in the Administration that could affect policy?
What's the exact allegation?

I've been really clear, I think the currently LEGAL grift of making money off of presumed access is gross.

But I think the speculation that Joe profited from any such, without clear proof, or even a clear allegation of HIS wrongdoing, is blatant partisan BS.

Entirely about an attempt to dirty up a presumed opponent, regardless of truth, and without a shred of evidence of wrongdoing.

Why??? Well, it's clearly more than trying to have an election advantage, rather it's a pathetically desperate attempt to blunt the overwhelming evidence of actual wrongdoing, massive corruption and dishonesty, by his opponent and those around him.

And that's what you're doing on here.

Impeach Joe Biden!

Put the Biden Crime Family on barge off GITMO!

Durham can prosecute.

Pathetic.
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Some "rapper" upset by white priviledge

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Even the "tranny", US Rep. Major Taylor Green, used the term "white priviledge" when referring too Hunter Bidens criminal gun application.

But, the rapper,Kodak Black, went to jail.....put the wrong Social Security number down on his application....

He is dark skinned. In jail.

Hunty got tossed from the Navy for illegal, criminal, crack cocaine use. "what past" scream the unprincipled on these threads :roll:

"tinfoil hat" means the discussion is about a joke. A lie. A falsehood?

stay principled, gun control nuts. Guess most of us plead "guilty" to falsehoods.

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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:52 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
Did Joe have "show jobs"?
Did anyone doing so have an official position in the White House or a job in the Administration that could affect policy?
What's the exact allegation?

I've been really clear, I think the currently LEGAL grift of making money off of presumed access is gross.

But I think the speculation that Joe profited from any such, without clear proof, or even a clear allegation of HIS wrongdoing, is blatant partisan BS.

Entirely about an attempt to dirty up a presumed opponent, regardless of truth, and without a shred of evidence of wrongdoing.

Why??? Well, it's clearly more than trying to have an election advantage, rather it's a pathetically desperate attempt to blunt the overwhelming evidence of actual wrongdoing, massive corruption and dishonesty, by his opponent and those around him.

And that's what you're doing on here.

Impeach Joe Biden!

Put the Biden Crime Family on barge off GITMO!

Durham can prosecute.

Pathetic.
Or maybe the Biden crime syndicate is very good at laundering all the moolah? Maybe Joe has bags of cash in his Vette parked in the locked garage?? ;) Anybody check to see if Joe has any Swiss bank accounts?? MD your correct here for a change. If the allegations of dirty money are unprovable then the issue should be left alone.
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This is just some food for thought. If the trump DOJ had prosecuted Hunter in an aggressive manner with no leniency would there be folks on this forum screaming bloody murder that it was all a political witch hunt to discredit then candidate Joe Biden?

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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
... I say go for it! Maybe he can find a whistleblower that actually exists.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:05 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:52 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
Did Joe have "show jobs"?
Did anyone doing so have an official position in the White House or a job in the Administration that could affect policy?
What's the exact allegation?

I've been really clear, I think the currently LEGAL grift of making money off of presumed access is gross.

But I think the speculation that Joe profited from any such, without clear proof, or even a clear allegation of HIS wrongdoing, is blatant partisan BS.

Entirely about an attempt to dirty up a presumed opponent, regardless of truth, and without a shred of evidence of wrongdoing.

Why??? Well, it's clearly more than trying to have an election advantage, rather it's a pathetically desperate attempt to blunt the overwhelming evidence of actual wrongdoing, massive corruption and dishonesty, by his opponent and those around him.

And that's what you're doing on here.

Impeach Joe Biden!

Put the Biden Crime Family on barge off GITMO!

Durham can prosecute.

Pathetic.
Or maybe the Biden crime syndicate is very good at laundering all the moolah? Maybe Joe has bags of cash in his Vette parked in the locked garage?? ;) Anybody check to see if Joe has any Swiss bank accounts?? MD your correct here for a change. If the allegations of dirty money are unprovable then the issue should be left alone.
I'll believe the House Oversight Committee is legitimate and not a political witch hunt when they bring in Jared to talk about the Saudi's $2BILLION investment in his first ever investment firm.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

Post by jhu72 »

SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:56 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:05 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:52 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
Did Joe have "show jobs"?
Did anyone doing so have an official position in the White House or a job in the Administration that could affect policy?
What's the exact allegation?

I've been really clear, I think the currently LEGAL grift of making money off of presumed access is gross.

But I think the speculation that Joe profited from any such, without clear proof, or even a clear allegation of HIS wrongdoing, is blatant partisan BS.

Entirely about an attempt to dirty up a presumed opponent, regardless of truth, and without a shred of evidence of wrongdoing.

Why??? Well, it's clearly more than trying to have an election advantage, rather it's a pathetically desperate attempt to blunt the overwhelming evidence of actual wrongdoing, massive corruption and dishonesty, by his opponent and those around him.

And that's what you're doing on here.

Impeach Joe Biden!

Put the Biden Crime Family on barge off GITMO!

Durham can prosecute.

Pathetic.
Or maybe the Biden crime syndicate is very good at laundering all the moolah? Maybe Joe has bags of cash in his Vette parked in the locked garage?? ;) Anybody check to see if Joe has any Swiss bank accounts?? MD your correct here for a change. If the allegations of dirty money are unprovable then the issue should be left alone.
I'll believe the House Oversight Committee is legitimate and not a political witch hunt when they bring in Jared to talk about the Saudi's $2BILLION investment in his first ever investment firm.
... and other various and sundry dollars from doing business while in the White House, as well.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Hunter Biden got $1 million a year from Burisma. Complete bs.

I’ll see that and raise you with $2 billion Jared got from the Saudi’s. Who Jared actually worked with while a govt official.

Under standard private equity terms (2 and 20), that brings Jared $40 million a year. George Soros was a friend of mine. Jared ain’t no George soros.

Maybe investigate that one?
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:56 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:05 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:52 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
Did Joe have "show jobs"?
Did anyone doing so have an official position in the White House or a job in the Administration that could affect policy?
What's the exact allegation?

I've been really clear, I think the currently LEGAL grift of making money off of presumed access is gross.

But I think the speculation that Joe profited from any such, without clear proof, or even a clear allegation of HIS wrongdoing, is blatant partisan BS.

Entirely about an attempt to dirty up a presumed opponent, regardless of truth, and without a shred of evidence of wrongdoing.

Why??? Well, it's clearly more than trying to have an election advantage, rather it's a pathetically desperate attempt to blunt the overwhelming evidence of actual wrongdoing, massive corruption and dishonesty, by his opponent and those around him.

And that's what you're doing on here.

Impeach Joe Biden!

Put the Biden Crime Family on barge off GITMO!

Durham can prosecute.

Pathetic.
Or maybe the Biden crime syndicate is very good at laundering all the moolah? Maybe Joe has bags of cash in his Vette parked in the locked garage?? ;) Anybody check to see if Joe has any Swiss bank accounts?? MD your correct here for a change. If the allegations of dirty money are unprovable then the issue should be left alone.
I'll believe the House Oversight Committee is legitimate and not a political witch hunt when they bring in Jared to talk about the Saudi's $2BILLION investment in his first ever investment firm.
I'll bet the IRS would be interested as well. I guess I did a very poor job of getting the point across that my post was facetious.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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You guys are being very mean to Jared. He is very well qualified to serve as an investment manager of a $2 billion fund.

After all, he managed an apartment building. Many many hedge fund managers got their start that way. Jared‘s specialty was evicting single moms and finding technicalities so he didn’t have to return security deposits.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:56 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:56 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:05 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:52 am
old salt wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:04 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:16 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:58 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:08 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm Keep sucking in those conspiracy theories.
$10 million buys a lot of Biden family books.
Give us another rant about grifters.
Even the Wash Post is now publishing those conspiracy theories.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... y-members/

Opinion : Millions flowed to Biden family members. Don’t pretend it doesn’t matter.

By Jim Geraghty, Contributing columnist, May 18, 2023

Let’s assume that, as President Biden’s fans insist, there’s no evidence of lawbreaking in the deals that had foreign companies paying more than $10 million to Biden family members during and after Biden’s years as vice president.

And no doubt, the House Oversight Committee led by Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) has its own preconceived narrative that Biden is on the take from all kinds of shady characters. An indictment of bribery or corruption would require proof that, at some point while in office, Biden acted or influenced a U.S. government policy decision to benefit one of those companies, and the House Oversight Committee, so far, does not have that proof.

Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.”

Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies?

Why did Gabriel Popoviciu, a businessman convicted of bribery in Romania and relatedly investigated by British authorities pay as much as $1 million that ended up in Biden family accounts? Does anyone believe that Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming in 2017 gave Hunter Biden a 2.8-carat diamond, estimated to be worth up to $80,000, as a gift out of the pure goodness of his heart? Ye disappeared from public view in 2018 amid a Chinese corruption crackdown.

President Biden voluntarily releases his tax returns and other financial disclosure reports that are required by law. But members of elected officials’ families are not required to disclose anything, leaving a very easy way for any deep-pocketed individual or institution to purchase a friendship with someone who has the politician’s ear.

Maybe it’s entirely coincidental that so many foreign entities just happened to give large amounts of money and gifts to Biden family members, and no one involved ever believed, promised, insinuated or suggested that Joe Biden would ever return the favor.

What the House Oversight Committee report reveals is a larger and more complicated version of Hunter Biden’s ludicrously remunerative “work” for Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and natural gas company from 2014 to 2019. Hunter Biden had never worked in the oil or natural gas industry, and yet Burisma reportedly paid him up to $83,000 per month until his father left office, all without Hunter ever needing to travel to Ukraine. One Burisma official told Reuters in 2019 that Hunter Biden was a “ceremonial figure” at the company.

Why would Burisma so lucratively reward a ceremonial figure? What could Hunter Biden possibly offer the company beyond a connection to his father?

Confronted with the Comer committee’s report, Democrats scream, “What about Ivanka Trump’s trademarks in China, or Donald Trump and Jared Kushner profiting from Saudi investors?” And they’re right to object. We don’t elect leaders to the presidency — or the vice presidency — so that their relatives can cash in with foreign business executives. The sordid intermingling of personal financial interests with U.S. government policy is absolutely fair game in the 2024 presidential election.

With great power comes great responsibility, and few jobs are more powerful than the presidency or vice presidency. That means presidents and vice presidents have a responsibility to make sure their relatives aren’t making new “friends” from overseas who just happen to want to give them lots of money. Even if an elected official never returns the favor, the U.S. government’s lecturing other countries about corruption looks laughable when presidential offspring seem to be shilling access like a guy on the corner selling fake Rolexes.

Most of Washington is used to elected officials finding a sweet, low-responsibility, well-paying job for some otherwise unemployable son or niece. In 2012, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington went through the employment records of members of the House and determined that 82 members paid family members through their congressional offices, campaign committees or political action committees. (It came out to 42 Republicans and 40 Democrats; apparently Washington really did have more areas of bipartisan agreement back then.)

And in the grand scheme of things, giving your low-wattage relative a job answering phones in your congressional office is a small enough potential conflict that everyone can live with it.

The problem is the Biden family’s unspecified gigs with foreign companies appear never to have developed a limiting principle while he was vice president. Now, in the White House, variations on Biden’s reflexive “My son has done nothing wrong” response aren’t going to cut it this time. Comer promises more, and he’s taking direct aim at the not-all-that-plausible excuse that the president is entirely disconnected from the financial arrangements of his family members.

Comer, speaking with a Fox News radio program, noted that Biden’s media defenders act as though the revelations have nothing to do with Biden himself. “That is ridiculous,” Comer said. “Of course it has everything to do with Joe Biden.”
https://www.businessinsider.com/bidens- ... 2019-7?amp

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 981003002/

And he may have invested in some of the things you invested in too.
Nah, easier to believe that Joe made his money dirty.

Apparently, Joe’s net worth is $9 million now. Heck of a lot less than his books and speeches brought in.

If I’m not mistaken, a big chunk of the reduction was charitable giving, but maybe he invested poorly!
I'm more interested in what you're ignoring. What did all the Biden family members do to earn payments from the shell corps. No show jobs ?
Did Joe have "show jobs"?
Did anyone doing so have an official position in the White House or a job in the Administration that could affect policy?
What's the exact allegation?

I've been really clear, I think the currently LEGAL grift of making money off of presumed access is gross.

But I think the speculation that Joe profited from any such, without clear proof, or even a clear allegation of HIS wrongdoing, is blatant partisan BS.

Entirely about an attempt to dirty up a presumed opponent, regardless of truth, and without a shred of evidence of wrongdoing.

Why??? Well, it's clearly more than trying to have an election advantage, rather it's a pathetically desperate attempt to blunt the overwhelming evidence of actual wrongdoing, massive corruption and dishonesty, by his opponent and those around him.

And that's what you're doing on here.

Impeach Joe Biden!

Put the Biden Crime Family on barge off GITMO!

Durham can prosecute.

Pathetic.
Or maybe the Biden crime syndicate is very good at laundering all the moolah? Maybe Joe has bags of cash in his Vette parked in the locked garage?? ;) Anybody check to see if Joe has any Swiss bank accounts?? MD your correct here for a change. If the allegations of dirty money are unprovable then the issue should be left alone.
I'll believe the House Oversight Committee is legitimate and not a political witch hunt when they bring in Jared to talk about the Saudi's $2BILLION investment in his first ever investment firm.
I'll bet the IRS would be interested as well. I guess I did a very poor job of getting the point across that my post was facetious.
You were clear on your agreement with MDLax. I was agreeing with you both. I never said not to investigate the Bidens, just that if they're questioning seven and eight figure payments they should also being investigating ten figure ones. They're not, which makes this all B. S.
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njbill wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:10 pm You guys are being very mean to Jared. He is very well qualified to serve as an investment manager of a $2 billion fund.

After all, he managed an apartment building. Many many hedge fund managers got their start that way. Jared‘s specialty was evicting single moms and finding technicalities so he didn’t have to return security deposits.
He was probably also very good at making sure the building supe got the garbage picked up on Tuesdays.
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Re: Hunter Biden Tinfoil issues

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Well, he did bring peace to the Middle East so perhaps we ought to cut him some slack.
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