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Offensive Emails Among Businessmen, Donald Trump Jr. Spark Fight in Hedge Fund Case
A judge will decide whether to release unredacted emails that included derogatory remarks about Jews and Mexicans
By Corinne RameyFollow
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Updated June 15, 2023 5:39 pm ET
The Texas financier Gentry Beach has made no secret of having close ties to Donald Trump Jr., serving as a groomsman at his wedding, fundraising for his father and once boasting to a former boss about his friendship with the former president’s eldest son.
Now Beach is seeking to keep the Trump name out of a long and bitter court fight with his former hedge-fund employer, litigation that has spawned a side battle over whether a judge should allow full public access to offensive emails exchanged among a group that included the two men and others who worked at prominent real-estate and financial firms.
For nearly 15 years, Beach has been fighting in New York state court with Touradji Capital Management, after accusing the hedge fund of withholding tens of millions of dollars in pay he says he was owed. In a 2008 complaint, Beach accused founder Paul Touradji of saying he wouldn’t pay the compensation, and of then threatening to kill Beach and ruin his career. Lawyers for Touradji argued that the alleged oral compensation agreement didn’t exist, and that Beach and a co-plaintiff were dishonest and unskilled employees.
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The emails, which include derogatory remarks about Jews and Mexicans, are years old; Beach sent and received them from his Touradji work email account between 2005 and 2008. But they entered the case only recently, introduced during a retrial that took place this year after an earlier $91 million judgment for Beach, who now runs a private-equity firm, and his co-plaintiff was thrown out on appeal.
Gentry Beach and Paul Touradji. Photo: Bennett Raglin/Getty Images; Heidi Gutman/CNBC
The retrial ended with the jury unable to reach a verdict on a key issue, meaning the case might be tried for a third time. In the interim, the two sides are fighting over whether the emails, and particularly Trump Jr.’s connection to them, should be a part of the public court record in their entirety. Beach is seeking to have Trump Jr.’s name redacted in case documents.
On Thursday, the judge presiding over the case heard arguments on the issue. Over the course of an hour, no one uttered the Trump name.
A representative for Beach didn’t respond to a request for comment. A representative for Trump Jr. declined to comment. Latham & Watkins, the law firm representing Touradji, declined to comment.
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The emails were part of a new legal defense by the hedge fund, which argued that the messages bolstered its arguments that Beach was disloyal to his employer and exposed the company to reputational harm, and so shouldn’t be compensated.
The fund said the offensive messages could have been seen by financial regulators and potential clients. Other individuals on the email chains worked at major institutions, Touradji lawyers said. “Many of these investors, such as pension funds and publicly traded corporations, are rigorously focused on the integrity of the investment professionals that manage their assets,” they wrote in a January filing.
The fund said Beach “has publicized and touted his connection to Trump Jr.” when it suited him, and argued that the emails were relevant to the case and should be public. Its lawyers, citing court precedent, said, “neither the potential for embarrassment or damage to reputation, nor the general desire for privacy, constitutes good cause to seal court records.”
Beach and Trump Jr. have been friends for decades, having attended the University of Pennsylvania together in the 1990s. Beach has spoken of his access to Trump Jr. while his father was president. While a Touradji employee, Beach told his former boss that his relationship with Trump Jr. opened up attractive investment opportunities, according to court records.
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Beach’s lawyers accused the hedge fund of having improper motives in seeking to make the emails public, and said courts can order the sealing of records when doing so doesn’t implicate substantial public interest.
“The only legitimate purpose for peppering the record with references to the public figure’s name is to prejudice the jury pool for the retrial and to increase risk of reputational harm to Plaintiffs, perhaps to generate settlement leverage,” the lawyers, referring to Trump Jr., wrote in a filing last month.
Thomas Hicks Jr., a onetime Republican National Committee co-chair, at an RNC meeting in California last January. Photo: MIKE BLAKE/REUTERS
At the end of Thursday’s hearing, State Supreme Court Justice Andrea Masley said Beach’s embarrassment wasn’t sufficient reason for scrubbing the Trump name. The judge said jurors in any future trial could fairly weigh the relevant issues. She is expected to issue a written ruling.
Some of the emails were discussed in open court during this year’s retrial, including during the cross-examination of Beach, according to transcripts of the trial.
Beach, who has spoken of having a large collection of guns and knives, wrote emails that made references to hunting Jews and shooting Mexicans. Beach said in court that he had Jewish friends, some of whom were on the emails.
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In one group thread, Beach wrote, “Tomorrow night we’re having jews for dinner. That’s kosher, right?”
In a separate email exchange, about a Beach family move to upper Manhattan, Trump Jr. replied by referring to the area as Harlem. “I hear the theme song of the Jeffersons playing in the background,” he wrote. The content of the email exchange was read in court, according to the transcripts, and Trump Jr. was identified as the sender by lawyers in a separate court filing.
Beach responded, “decent hunting.”
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In another email, Trump Jr. blamed a member of the message group for Mexicans coming to the U.S.
“Encourage the Mexicans to come to the US and give them another excuse to not learn English,” he wrote. “When I have to speak to my grandchildren in Spanish, at least I know I will have you to thank.”
Beach responded by saying that he was going to send his son to the border with ammo. “We’re going to stop this wetback issue dead in its tracks,” he wrote.
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The hedge fund lawyers said Trump Jr. and Beach were among several University of Pennsylvania alumni on the group emails. Another participant was Thomas Hicks Jr., a former Republican National Committee co-chair, who, according to the transcript, made an antisemitic comment about a Jewish real-estate broker who sent pornographic pictures to one group of email recipients. Hicks declined to comment.
“Do you think that’s abhorrent…the context of that comment?” a Touradji lawyer asked Beach while he was on the witness stand.
“I don’t think it seems very nice or appropriate,” he responded.
During the retrial, a lawyer for Beach told jurors the messages were “highly inappropriate, shameful, inexcusable emails,” but said they had no bearing on the compensation that Touradji owed Beach.
“You don’t have to like him to make a decision that he’s owed money,” the lawyer said. “Don’t be manipulated.”
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Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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I don't know if I'm a usual suspect, but I'll start. I for one will withhold judgement until authorities determine if this was random, an attack against specific individuals, or an attack on the principle for the celebration. I am curious if you had this same response after last year's July 4 shooting or any of the mass shootings this past Memorial Day. Is there something you're trying to imply?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
I guess that means that St Valentine's Day was a cause celebre' or excuse for having white on white violence.
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This sentence is one you’d expect from a person with brain damage. The choice of words is pathetic and demands a reciprocal lack of empathy or respect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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I'm implying that a gathering to celebrate an event that should invoke joy and harmony shouldn't wind up with people shooting one another. I'm guessing that alcohol probably has something to do with what occured. I'm sure your correct that more will be revealed. Maybe I'm just too old too understand how a celebration turns into a slaughter house. I guess I should have never brought it up and just pretended like it never happened.SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:57 pmI don't know if I'm a usual suspect, but I'll start. I for one will withhold judgement until authorities determine if this was random, an attack against specific individuals, or an attack on the principle for the celebration. I am curious if you had this same response after last year's July 4 shooting or any of the mass shootings this past Memorial Day. Is there something you're trying to imply?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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So you are not the least bit curious about what happened? How many celebrations have you been to in your life that ended this tragically? Your frat parties don't count. I don't give 2 chits about your opinion of what I wrote. I would expect that what happened should disgust you as much as it disgusts me. There were a number of Juneteenth celebrations in our area that involved alot of people getting together and having a good time. Would it assuage your feelings if I just ignored the damn thing? FTR Skippy you have a very long and unglamorous record of spouting off stupid chit. Your really not qualified to judge anyone, anywhere or anytime.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:58 pmThis sentence is one you’d expect from a person with brain damage. The choice of words is pathetic and demands a reciprocal lack of empathy or respect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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RE: the parking lot, I found an article that referred to the shooting at Honeysuckle Rose Lane and Route 83 in Willowbrook. If so, it's either one of the parking lots at Hinsdale Lake Terrace Apartments or in the strip mall parking lot just outside its entrance. While there seems to be a decent amount of grass between apartment buildings, any of the parking lot areas would seem to me to be a better choice for a neighborhood party. Everything I've managed to find about this complex seems to lead to it being low income oriented, and poorly managed. It has terrible on-line reviews.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:58 pmThis sentence is one you’d expect from a person with brain damage. The choice of words is pathetic and demands a reciprocal lack of empathy or respect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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I'm sorry I even posted it SC. Maybe a good rule of thumb for any party or celebration is leave your guns at home. Maybe the dictionary folks need a more inclusive definition of the word " celebration" There was a reason back in Dodge City why the gamblers had to leave their colts at the door? Some drunk poker player thinks he has been cheated and............ The people may change over the centuries but this is as true as it gets. Drunk people should never carry guns on them.SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:47 pmRE: the parking lot, I found an article that referred to the shooting at Honeysuckle Rose Lane and Route 83 in Willowbrook. If so, it's either one of the parking lots at Hinsdale Lake Terrace Apartments or in the strip mall parking lot just outside its entrance. While there seems to be a decent amount of grass between apartment buildings, any of the parking lot areas would seem to me to be a better choice for a neighborhood party. Everything I've managed to find about this complex seems to lead to it being low income oriented, and poorly managed. It has terrible on-line reviews.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:58 pmThis sentence is one you’d expect from a person with brain damage. The choice of words is pathetic and demands a reciprocal lack of empathy or respect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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I'm sorry I even posted it SC. Maybe a good rule of thumb for any party or celebration is leave your guns at home. Maybe the dictionary folks need a more inclusive definition of the word " celebration" There was a reason back in Dodge City why the gamblers had to leave their colts at the door? Some drunk poker player thinks he has been cheated and............ The people may change over the centuries but this is as true as it gets. Drunk people should never carry guns on them.SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:47 pmRE: the parking lot, I found an article that referred to the shooting at Honeysuckle Rose Lane and Route 83 in Willowbrook. If so, it's either one of the parking lots at Hinsdale Lake Terrace Apartments or in the strip mall parking lot just outside its entrance. While there seems to be a decent amount of grass between apartment buildings, any of the parking lot areas would seem to me to be a better choice for a neighborhood party. Everything I've managed to find about this complex seems to lead to it being low income oriented, and poorly managed. It has terrible on-line reviews.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:58 pmThis sentence is one you’d expect from a person with brain damage. The choice of words is pathetic and demands a reciprocal lack of empathy or respect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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I'm sure all here agree that drunks shouldn't be carrying guns, but what the gun advocates want us to believe is that we need to carry a gun just in case some other 'bad guy' starts shooting...horrible gun culture problem...meanwhile, the gun manufacturers and their lobbyists are chortling away...cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:41 pmI'm sorry I even posted it SC. Maybe a good rule of thumb for any party or celebration is leave your guns at home. Maybe the dictionary folks need a more inclusive definition of the word " celebration" There was a reason back in Dodge City why the gamblers had to leave their colts at the door? Some drunk poker player thinks he has been cheated and............ The people may change over the centuries but this is as true as it gets. Drunk people should never carry guns on them.SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:47 pmRE: the parking lot, I found an article that referred to the shooting at Honeysuckle Rose Lane and Route 83 in Willowbrook. If so, it's either one of the parking lots at Hinsdale Lake Terrace Apartments or in the strip mall parking lot just outside its entrance. While there seems to be a decent amount of grass between apartment buildings, any of the parking lot areas would seem to me to be a better choice for a neighborhood party. Everything I've managed to find about this complex seems to lead to it being low income oriented, and poorly managed. It has terrible on-line reviews.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:58 pmThis sentence is one you’d expect from a person with brain damage. The choice of words is pathetic and demands a reciprocal lack of empathy or respect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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I think the point that was being made in response wasn't in disagreement about how awful it is to ruin a celebration, but rather to be sure that the rightful attention to this event is no different than one would have to what actually happened last Memorial Day and last July 4, similar days of national celebration and reflection, not something at all particular to a holiday most celebrated in the black community. If you made similar comments about those, all good...but if you were fed this event in your news feed but didn't notice the others (not fed) it would be worth noting that perhaps the algorithm is 'working'...a heads up...cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:11 pmI'm implying that a gathering to celebrate an event that should invoke joy and harmony shouldn't wind up with people shooting one another. I'm guessing that alcohol probably has something to do with what occured. I'm sure your correct that more will be revealed. Maybe I'm just too old too understand how a celebration turns into a slaughter house. I guess I should have never brought it up and just pretended like it never happened.SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:57 pmI don't know if I'm a usual suspect, but I'll start. I for one will withhold judgement until authorities determine if this was random, an attack against specific individuals, or an attack on the principle for the celebration. I am curious if you had this same response after last year's July 4 shooting or any of the mass shootings this past Memorial Day. Is there something you're trying to imply?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
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There is a lot of overthinking going on MD. I commented on an event that happened last night. Now many of you are playing the what about game.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:28 pmI think the point that was being made in response wasn't in disagreement about how awful it is to ruin a celebration, but rather to be sure that the rightful attention to this event is no different than one would have to what actually happened last Memorial Day and last July 4, similar days of national celebration and reflection, not something at all particular to a holiday most celebrated in the black community. If you made similar comments about those, all good...but if you were fed this event in your news feed but didn't notice the others (not fed) it would be worth noting that perhaps the algorithm is 'working'...a heads up...cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:11 pmI'm implying that a gathering to celebrate an event that should invoke joy and harmony shouldn't wind up with people shooting one another. I'm guessing that alcohol probably has something to do with what occured. I'm sure your correct that more will be revealed. Maybe I'm just too old too understand how a celebration turns into a slaughter house. I guess I should have never brought it up and just pretended like it never happened.SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:57 pmI don't know if I'm a usual suspect, but I'll start. I for one will withhold judgement until authorities determine if this was random, an attack against specific individuals, or an attack on the principle for the celebration. I am curious if you had this same response after last year's July 4 shooting or any of the mass shootings this past Memorial Day. Is there something you're trying to imply?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_ ... e_shooting
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 268159007/
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Keep on being stuck in the dark. This running around like an idiot is all you.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:21 pmSo you are not the least bit curious about what happened? How many celebrations have you been to in your life that ended this tragically? Your frat parties don't count. I don't give 2 chits about your opinion of what I wrote. I would expect that what happened should disgust you as much as it disgusts me. There were a number of Juneteenth celebrations in our area that involved alot of people getting together and having a good time. Would it assuage your feelings if I just ignored the damn thing? FTR Skippy you have a very long and unglamorous record of spouting off stupid chit. Your really not qualified to judge anyone, anywhere or anytime.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:58 pmThis sentence is one you’d expect from a person with brain damage. The choice of words is pathetic and demands a reciprocal lack of empathy or respect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
Being curious what happened and suggesting it has anything to do with Juneteenth is beyond stupid it’s wrong, Jimmy. If you can’t understand how stupid what your wrote is there is no Hope in the world for you.
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Keep on being stuck in the dark. This running around like an idiot is all you.
Being curious what happened and suggesting it has anything to do with Juneteenth is beyond stupid it’s wrong, Jimmy. If you can’t understand how stupid what your wrote is there is no Hope in the world for you.
Don't be too harsh or he'll put you on "block" like he did with me (as if that was any "loss"). LOL.
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Seems to have started over a girl getting into fight, according a witness on local news:cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:50 pmThere is a lot of overthinking going on MD. I commented on an event that happened last night. Now many of you are playing the what about game.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:28 pmI think the point that was being made in response wasn't in disagreement about how awful it is to ruin a celebration, but rather to be sure that the rightful attention to this event is no different than one would have to what actually happened last Memorial Day and last July 4, similar days of national celebration and reflection, not something at all particular to a holiday most celebrated in the black community. If you made similar comments about those, all good...but if you were fed this event in your news feed but didn't notice the others (not fed) it would be worth noting that perhaps the algorithm is 'working'...a heads up...cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:11 pmI'm implying that a gathering to celebrate an event that should invoke joy and harmony shouldn't wind up with people shooting one another. I'm guessing that alcohol probably has something to do with what occured. I'm sure your correct that more will be revealed. Maybe I'm just too old too understand how a celebration turns into a slaughter house. I guess I should have never brought it up and just pretended like it never happened.SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:57 pmI don't know if I'm a usual suspect, but I'll start. I for one will withhold judgement until authorities determine if this was random, an attack against specific individuals, or an attack on the principle for the celebration. I am curious if you had this same response after last year's July 4 shooting or any of the mass shootings this past Memorial Day. Is there something you're trying to imply?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_ ... e_shooting
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I’m working hard to follow the general axiom of “be kind” so maybe I should be thankful I’m being tested.Brooklyn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:52 pmFarfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:37 pm
Keep on being stuck in the dark. This running around like an idiot is all you.
Being curious what happened and suggesting it has anything to do with Juneteenth is beyond stupid it’s wrong, Jimmy. If you can’t understand how stupid what your wrote is there is no Hope in the world for you.
Don't be too harsh or he'll put you on "block" like he did with me (as if that was any "loss"). LOL.
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Re: Is America a racist nation?
Clearly the shooting occurred because Afrojack was a headliner.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:15 pm https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/18/us/gorge ... index.html
Harvard University, out
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I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.
(Afan jealous he didn’t do this first)
University of Utah, in
I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.
(Afan jealous he didn’t do this first)
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Re: Is America a racist nation?
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:37 pmKeep on being stuck in the dark. This running around like an idiot is all you.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:21 pmSo you are not the least bit curious about what happened? How many celebrations have you been to in your life that ended this tragically? Your frat parties don't count. I don't give 2 chits about your opinion of what I wrote. I would expect that what happened should disgust you as much as it disgusts me. There were a number of Juneteenth celebrations in our area that involved alot of people getting together and having a good time. Would it assuage your feelings if I just ignored the damn thing? FTR Skippy you have a very long and unglamorous record of spouting off stupid chit. Your really not qualified to judge anyone, anywhere or anytime.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:58 pmThis sentence is one you’d expect from a person with brain damage. The choice of words is pathetic and demands a reciprocal lack of empathy or respect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:55 am Okay, I'm ready to get beat up by the usual suspects here. I understand the importance of Juneteenth to the black community. It is an occasion for celebration and joy. How did it become a reason to gather in a parking lot and instead of celebrating the party turns into a shooting gallery. One person dead and 20 more wounded. I guess there is reason to insert the dreaded eye roll emoji...
Being curious what happened and suggesting it has anything to do with Juneteenth is beyond stupid it’s wrong, Jimmy. If you can’t understand how stupid what your wrote is there is no Hope in the world for you.
I am curious how a celebration suddenly turns into a wild west shootout? The news headline said 20 people shot at Juneteenth celebration. So what the news headline said is misleading and incorrect... GOT IT Skippy. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that if everybody had left their guns at home nobody would have been shot. What the hell though Skippy, it must be a new American tradition to bring your guns to the party. I'm sure using your logic it boils down to hey, chit happens. Have a good day I'm done discussing this with you.
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