old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 3:09 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 3:02 pm
old salt wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:52 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:30 pm
It's been interesting how support for "Israel" in specific has been more recently accepted among parts of the hard-right, who are otherwise pre-disposed to be anti-Semitic. It's traceable to two elements, 1) an Islamaphobic reaction to 9-11 etc and 2) a strain of evangelicalism which believes that End Days require such alignment. It's not based on respect for Judaism or Jews, though we see this alignment with the hard right in Israel as well. Enemy of my enemy, and who cares about authoritarianism, apartheid, etc.
That's a sweeping indictment. There's been significant support for Israel from the right, back to Israel's founding & through the wars of the '60's & '70's, before 9-11, & before evangelicals were driven to the (R) party by the (D)'s increasing secularism & anti-christian dogma.
I said "hard-right".
Folks like me were supportive. And I assume you for similar reasons.
But it's always been a mixed bag on the 'right', whether GOP or Dem, largely because of anti-semitism.
Even Ike was mixed in his views.
And no, evangelicals weren't "driven", they were seduced by grifters and charlatans who have lied to them from TV and radio pulpits for profit and power.
It's amazing how you see everything through this liberalism and Democrats = evil lens.
It sure feels like deep rooted anger.
You think differences in pro-life vs pro-choice didn't matter, or intact 2 parent families vs single parent family ?
Of course... the reproductive rights issue was actively drummed from the pulpit, but it was to all a political con job.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... s-00031480
For White evangelicals, you know, the ones who went to the GOP...it was a cover for what they really were fighting for, racial segregation.
Abortion was initially considered an issue for Catholics, not evangelicals.
And what do you think "intact 2 parent families" is code for? Race.
It's been an immense con job. Certainly many believe quite sincerely in their "biblical beliefs" but it's all how you're taught and manipulated from the pulpit...
Just as Paul's letters are misinterpreted as universal (rather than local and cultural in that time), as justification for keeping women out of positions of high leadership; they can "serve" but can't occupy various leadership positions...you think that's not about power? God wants women to serve, not lead?
There's no question that the pulpit and politics were merged for profit and power.
Given my religious training, I ascribe this to human weakness, succumbing to Satan's temptations, not following God's wishes...