The Biden - Harris Era.

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a fan wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 3:48 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 2:29 pm Just to be clear, an intentional violation with classified documents is treated seriously, with real implications.

Intentional
Sure.

But with OSHA? Intent doesn't matter. Why? Because F'ing up is a big deal, with serious consequences.

Intent shouldn't matter. The goal is to keep stuff like serious docs from falling into the hands of people who shouldn't have them.

If Putin gets ahold of Ukrainian war plans....does it matter WHY it got in their hands? The "why" is way down on the list of priorities, is it not?
Sure, but then let's hold the organization responsible (just like your company), ie the US Government.

The problem is that some folks want to pretend that POTUS is in control of every last detail all the time, yet clearly they're aren't...and they want to also pretend that a failure of the system to control each document is actually an individual responsibility...as if the failure of no intent is the same as actual intent.

Biden = Pence = Obama = Bush = Clinton = Bush .... = TRUMP

Nope.
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Pretty messed up how the POTUS' Twitter feed is promulgating this propaganda. https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/166646 ... 29229?s=20
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:41 pm Pretty messed up how the POTUS' Twitter feed is promulgating this propaganda. https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/166646 ... 29229?s=20
This sort of sloppy language has always bothered me, and it's a practice of each side of the aisle when in office to be so sloppy.

It is only accurate to say that the economy during any particular period of time has added jobs at a particular rate. This doesn't exactly say the President has added the jobs, but the inference is there, and they sometimes use that language...sloppy.

It IS true that the economy has added a huge number of jobs much faster during these two + years than during any other Presidency. Fair claim. Wanna call it propaganda? I dunno, it's true, so that's "messaging", not propaganda.

Whether it's also true that the President's policies have contributed to that success or not is another question and claim...what we do know is the job growth has been, and continues to be, much stronger than what most economists have predicted for this period...it was obvious that there would be a rebound from COVID, but it was not obvious that it would be this robust.

Personally, I think it's fair to suggest that Biden's Admin has done as good a job as one might have hoped for in managing the economy, in unprecedented times, to the limited extent that any Admin can actually influence the economy in the short term.

The flip side is that we've had higher and more persistent inflation following a series of global supply shocks and after a very long period of extremely easy monetary policy. I think the Biden Admin's policies, including the last stimulus checks, had a marginal impact on this, but the vast bulk of the issue is unrelated to fiscal or regulatory policy. Good news is that it's been coming down as various supply shocks have worked through and monetary supply has tightened, but it's still stubbornly higher, longer, than hoped. Presumably at some point we'll actually see the economy slow somewhat, job growth slow (hopefully not contract), as inflation can only go down to target levels with some slowing.

Where I think the Biden Admin's policies may have multi-year positive impact on jobs are the CHIPS and Infrastructure Acts...getting those through on a semi-bi-partisan basis was huge, and credit really does deserve to go to Biden personally.

Bottomline, want to get exercised about "messaging" being sloppy? Call out both sides for it.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:17 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:41 pm Pretty messed up how the POTUS' Twitter feed is promulgating this propaganda. https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/166646 ... 29229?s=20
This sort of sloppy language has always bothered me, and it's a practice of each side of the aisle when in office to be so sloppy.

It is only accurate to say that the economy during any particular period of time has added jobs at a particular rate. This doesn't exactly say the President has added the jobs, but the inference is there, and they sometimes use that language...sloppy.

It IS true that the economy has added a huge number of jobs much faster during these two + years than during any other Presidency. Fair claim. Wanna call it propaganda? I dunno, it's true, so that's "messaging", not propaganda.

Whether it's also true that the President's policies have contributed to that success or not is another question and claim...what we do know is the job growth has been, and continues to be, much stronger than what most economists have predicted for this period...it was obvious that there would be a rebound from COVID, but it was not obvious that it would be this robust.

Personally, I think it's fair to suggest that Biden's Admin has done as good a job as one might have hoped for in managing the economy, in unprecedented times, to the limited extent that any Admin can actually influence the economy in the short term.

The flip side is that we've had higher and more persistent inflation following a series of global supply shocks and after a very long period of extremely easy monetary policy. I think the Biden Admin's policies, including the last stimulus checks, had a marginal impact on this, but the vast bulk of the issue is unrelated to fiscal or regulatory policy. Good news is that it's been coming down as various supply shocks have worked through and monetary supply has tightened, but it's still stubbornly higher, longer, than hoped. Presumably at some point we'll actually see the economy slow somewhat, job growth slow (hopefully not contract), as inflation can only go down to target levels with some slowing.

Where I think the Biden Admin's policies may have multi-year positive impact on jobs are the CHIPS and Infrastructure Acts...getting those through on a semi-bi-partisan basis was huge, and credit really does deserve to go to Biden personally.

Bottomline, want to get exercised about "messaging" being sloppy? Call out both sides for it.
Need at least six months after student loan repayments come in before declaring victory. 40 months of easy life for everyone under 40 means no way anything can be claimed with any legitimacy right now on either side.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:41 pm Pretty messed up how the POTUS' Twitter feed is promulgating this propaganda. https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/166646 ... 29229?s=20
I agree. I hate it, and wish they wouldn't play this stupid game.
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No mention of Atlanta because we will still shoot you in the a** if you step over the line.

Homicides Are Falling in Major American Cities

Local officials say pandemic factors that drove up murder rates are receding

Zusha Elinson
Updated June 8, 2023 2:40 pm ET

Homicides in some of America’s largest cities are falling after soaring during the first two years of the pandemic.

So far this year, killings are down 12% overall in nine of the 10 most populous cities compared with the same time frame last year, according to local government data.

Homicides are down in six of those cities, including 27% in Los Angeles, 22% in Houston, and 16% in Philadelphia. In Texas, the cities of Dallas, San Antonio and Austin reported slight upticks. San Diego didn’t provide data.

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Local officials and criminologists say conditions that drove the violence up in 2020 and 2021, such as rise in domestic disputes and a pause in gang-violence prevention programs during the pandemic, as well as a pullback in police enforcement after racial-justice protests over the murder of George Floyd, are receding.

Last year, the number of killings dropped 5% in 70 of the largest U.S. cities from 2021, according to the Major Cities Chiefs Association, which represents police chiefs from large cities.

“Obviously, things got so bad, we’re slowly chipping away at it,” said Danielle Outlaw, Philadelphia’s police commissioner.

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Philadelphia reported a record 562 homicides in 2021. Outlaw said the closing of courts and schools during the early days of the Covid-19 pandemic and the wave of protests calling to defund police departments affected policing.

“The narrative was defund and abolish,” she said. “That narrative undermined our credibility and authority.”

This year, drug-related killings are down 56% and domestic homicides are down 22% in Philadelphia. Outlaw credited a new team of detectives that investigates all shootings, as well as the return of community anti-violence groups and regular schooling. She said police morale is up with more public support.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation isn’t expected to release national crime figures for 2022 until later this year. Murders rose 4% in 2021 after spiking by nearly 30% in 2020, according to the agency’s most recent data.

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Some criminologists argue that the reduction in violence is tied most closely to the receding effects of the pandemic. John Roman, a senior fellow in the Economics, Justice and Society Group at NORC at the University of Chicago, said Americans were disconnected from schools, churches, mentors and counseling, which resulted in more deadly conflicts. He said that any impacts on policing from the protests weren’t widespread.


Houston is another city that has seen a decline in homicides compared with the same time in 2022. Photo: Mark Felix/Agence France-Presse/Getty Images
“The pandemic was everywhere all the time all at once and the protest was a moment in time and in a limited number of places,” Roman said.

As homicides have fallen, other crimes have increased in many cities over the past two years such as robberies and retail thefts. Criminologists have attributed this to the reopening of stores and to more foot traffic in cities after pandemic shutdowns ended.

In Houston, Mayor Sylvester Turner looks at the city’s homicide numbers every morning. When he began this practice in the early days of the pandemic, he noticed a rise in homicides related to domestic violence.

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“People were in isolation, people were working from home, being at home in close proximity with each other pent up,” Turner said.

This year, domestic homicides have dropped along with every other category, he said.

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Turner said he is optimistic that cities such as his can continue to bring down killings to prepandemic levels.

“You need to do everything that you can, utilize every tool in your toolbox, give law enforcement the resources they need and invest heavily in the community and on top of that you just need a bit of good luck,” he said.

Deputy Chief Kris Pitcher, who oversees the Los Angeles Police Department’s detectives, attributed the decline in murders in his city in part to officers’ efforts to target illegal guns. During the pandemic, there was a rise in stolen and trafficked firearms.

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Teams of officers that in the past focused on narcotics were ordered to expand their investigations to include illegal gun sales, he said.

Pitcher also pointed to the return of intervention workers whose job is to tamp down gang feuds that can spiral into retaliatory shootings.

Los Angeles, the birthplace of gangs such as the Bloods and Crips, has used a combination of intervention programs and a surgical approach to violent crime by police to turn the city from one of the most dangerous in the 1990s to one of the safest in the 2010s.

The pandemic halted many of those efforts. The city’s gang-intervention program, which started in 2007 and has turned hundreds of former gang members into neighborhood peacekeepers, had trouble reaching gang members.

Gatherings where interventionists tried to head off revenge shootings, like funerals or city-sponsored events in the parks, vanished. Gang shootings rose.

For the past two years, those shootings have trended downward in Los Angeles, Pitcher said.

“Everyone is up and running again,” he said. “The interventionists are on call 24-7.”

Write to Zusha Elinson at [email protected]

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:08 pm No mention of Atlanta because we will still shoot you in the a** if you step over the line.

Homicides Are Falling in Major American Cities

Local officials say pandemic factors that drove up murder rates are receding

Zusha Elinson
Updated June 8, 2023 2:40 pm ET

Homicides in some of America’s largest cities are falling after soaring during the first two years of the pandemic.

So far this year, killings are down 12% overall in nine of the 10 most populous cities compared with the same time frame last year, according to local government data.

Homicides are down in six of those cities, including 27% in Los Angeles, 22% in Houston, and 16% in Philadelphia. In Texas, the cities of Dallas, San Antonio and Austin reported slight upticks. San Diego didn’t provide data.

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The 2023 data available from the cities had different end dates, ranging from April to this week.
The decrease in homicides are all Biden's fault.

We've been yelling about the actual factors for the past 3.5 years, but no one cares.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:41 pm Pretty messed up how the POTUS' Twitter feed is promulgating this propaganda. https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/166646 ... 29229?s=20
Yea, it's not like the straight shooter Trump was. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:21 am
youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:41 pm Pretty messed up how the POTUS' Twitter feed is promulgating this propaganda. https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/166646 ... 29229?s=20
Yea, it's not like the straight shooter Trump was. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
My point exactly.
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Grassley explaining what’s documented on the 1023’s: https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1 ... a82I2GssRg

Might need a fake dossier to really get things moving.
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:53 pm Grassley explaining what’s documented on the 1023’s: https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1 ... a82I2GssRg

Might need a fake dossier to really get things moving.
classic.

First, if Joe Biden took a $5-10 million bribe as supposedly alleged he should go to jail.

But if you believe Chuck Grassley actually has this evidence, these tape recordings, and any of it actually proves such a bribe, I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you that I don't actually own...

But hey, let's believe "Trending Politics"...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/trending-politics/

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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:35 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:53 pm Grassley explaining what’s documented on the 1023’s: https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1 ... a82I2GssRg

Might need a fake dossier to really get things moving.
classic.

First, if Joe Biden took a $5-10 million bribe as supposedly alleged he should go to jail.

But if you believe Chuck Grassley actually has this evidence, these tape recordings, and any of it actually proves such a bribe, I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you that I don't actually own...

But hey, let's believe "Trending Politics"...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/trending-politics/

https://adfontesmedia.com/trending-poli ... liability/
agreed

Chuck never said he has the evidence. It’s noted in the 1023’s from the whistleblower. which are classified. But you go ahead and just claim it’s bias & cite websites, as if any of them have access to the classified docs.

What if Trump is playing 3d chess and some of his docs prove Biden is corrupt…..that would break internet. 😂
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:35 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:53 pm Grassley explaining what’s documented on the 1023’s: https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1 ... a82I2GssRg

Might need a fake dossier to really get things moving.
classic.

First, if Joe Biden took a $5-10 million bribe as supposedly alleged he should go to jail.

But if you believe Chuck Grassley actually has this evidence, these tape recordings, and any of it actually proves such a bribe, I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you that I don't actually own...

But hey, let's believe "Trending Politics"...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/trending-politics/

https://adfontesmedia.com/trending-poli ... liability/
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:54 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:35 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:53 pm Grassley explaining what’s documented on the 1023’s: https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1 ... a82I2GssRg

Might need a fake dossier to really get things moving.
classic.

First, if Joe Biden took a $5-10 million bribe as supposedly alleged he should go to jail.

But if you believe Chuck Grassley actually has this evidence, these tape recordings, and any of it actually proves such a bribe, I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you that I don't actually own...

But hey, let's believe "Trending Politics"...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/trending-politics/

https://adfontesmedia.com/trending-poli ... liability/
agreed

Chuck never said he has the evidence. It’s noted in the 1023’s from the whistleblower. which are classified. But you go ahead and just claim it’s bias & cite websites, as if any of them have access to the classified docs.

What if Trump is playing 3d chess and some of his docs prove Biden is corrupt…..that would break internet. 😂
well, we know Trump ain't playing 3D chess...but ok with me if it turns out Biden is corrupt and goes to jail if so. I'd be disappointed, but wouldn't be calling for rioting.

But yeah, Chuck doesn't have the evidence and he also doesn't have a whistleblower who has the evidence. Because it's extremely unlikely that such evidence exists as its never been produced. And Grassley has been proven again and again to be a doddering old fool...emphasis on fool.

Yes, look at your sources before you re-post disinformation campaigns...sometimes it's actually clear as a bell.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:54 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:35 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:53 pm Grassley explaining what’s documented on the 1023’s: https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1 ... a82I2GssRg

Might need a fake dossier to really get things moving.
classic.

First, if Joe Biden took a $5-10 million bribe as supposedly alleged he should go to jail.

But if you believe Chuck Grassley actually has this evidence, these tape recordings, and any of it actually proves such a bribe, I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you that I don't actually own...

But hey, let's believe "Trending Politics"...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/trending-politics/

https://adfontesmedia.com/trending-poli ... liability/
agreed

Chuck never said he has the evidence. It’s noted in the 1023’s from the whistleblower. which are classified. But you go ahead and just claim it’s bias & cite websites, as if any of them have access to the classified docs.

What if Trump is playing 3d chess and some of his docs prove Biden is corrupt…..that would break internet. 😂
well, we know Trump ain't playing 3D chess...but ok with me if it turns out Biden is corrupt and goes to jail if so. I'd be disappointed, but wouldn't be calling for rioting.

But yeah, Chuck doesn't have the evidence and he also doesn't have a whistleblower who has the evidence. Because it's extremely unlikely that such evidence exists as its never been produced. And Grassley has been proven again and again to be a doddering old fool...emphasis on fool.

Yes, look at your sources before you re-post disinformation campaigns...sometimes it's actually clear as a bell.
Biden should sue him for slander. :shock:
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youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:56 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:54 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:35 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:53 pm Grassley explaining what’s documented on the 1023’s: https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1 ... a82I2GssRg

Might need a fake dossier to really get things moving.
classic.

First, if Joe Biden took a $5-10 million bribe as supposedly alleged he should go to jail.

But if you believe Chuck Grassley actually has this evidence, these tape recordings, and any of it actually proves such a bribe, I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you that I don't actually own...

But hey, let's believe "Trending Politics"...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/trending-politics/

https://adfontesmedia.com/trending-poli ... liability/
agreed

Chuck never said he has the evidence. It’s noted in the 1023’s from the whistleblower. which are classified. But you go ahead and just claim it’s bias & cite websites, as if any of them have access to the classified docs.

What if Trump is playing 3d chess and some of his docs prove Biden is corrupt…..that would break internet. 😂
well, we know Trump ain't playing 3D chess...but ok with me if it turns out Biden is corrupt and goes to jail if so. I'd be disappointed, but wouldn't be calling for rioting.

But yeah, Chuck doesn't have the evidence and he also doesn't have a whistleblower who has the evidence. Because it's extremely unlikely that such evidence exists as its never been produced. And Grassley has been proven again and again to be a doddering old fool...emphasis on fool.

Yes, look at your sources before you re-post disinformation campaigns...sometimes it's actually clear as a bell.
Biden should sue him for slander. :shock:
Unfortunately, if I understand the slander and libel laws correctly, there's no protection from such for political figures. But yeah, we should understand it as slander when there are accusations without actual, truthful foundation. But it happens with some frequency in politics; parties don't matter as partisans and certain media are eager to throw mud. But don't confuse that media with journalism.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:54 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:35 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:53 pm Grassley explaining what’s documented on the 1023’s: https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1 ... a82I2GssRg

Might need a fake dossier to really get things moving.
classic.

First, if Joe Biden took a $5-10 million bribe as supposedly alleged he should go to jail.

But if you believe Chuck Grassley actually has this evidence, these tape recordings, and any of it actually proves such a bribe, I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you that I don't actually own...

But hey, let's believe "Trending Politics"...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/trending-politics/

https://adfontesmedia.com/trending-poli ... liability/
agreed

Chuck never said he has the evidence. It’s noted in the 1023’s from the whistleblower. which are classified. But you go ahead and just claim it’s bias & cite websites, as if any of them have access to the classified docs.

What if Trump is playing 3d chess and some of his docs prove Biden is corrupt…..that would break internet. 😂
well, we know Trump ain't playing 3D chess...but ok with me if it turns out Biden is corrupt and goes to jail if so. I'd be disappointed, but wouldn't be calling for rioting.

But yeah, Chuck doesn't have the evidence and he also doesn't have a whistleblower who has the evidence. Because it's extremely unlikely that such evidence exists as its never been produced. And Grassley has been proven again and again to be a doddering old fool...emphasis on fool.

Yes, look at your sources before you re-post disinformation campaigns...sometimes it's actually clear as a bell.
FBI admitting the 1023's and whistleblower are real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmDQPGEbnc
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:03 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:34 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:54 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:35 pm
youthathletics wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:53 pm Grassley explaining what’s documented on the 1023’s: https://twitter.com/collinrugg/status/1 ... a82I2GssRg

Might need a fake dossier to really get things moving.
classic.

First, if Joe Biden took a $5-10 million bribe as supposedly alleged he should go to jail.

But if you believe Chuck Grassley actually has this evidence, these tape recordings, and any of it actually proves such a bribe, I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you that I don't actually own...

But hey, let's believe "Trending Politics"...https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/trending-politics/

https://adfontesmedia.com/trending-poli ... liability/
agreed

Chuck never said he has the evidence. It’s noted in the 1023’s from the whistleblower. which are classified. But you go ahead and just claim it’s bias & cite websites, as if any of them have access to the classified docs.

What if Trump is playing 3d chess and some of his docs prove Biden is corrupt…..that would break internet. 😂
well, we know Trump ain't playing 3D chess...but ok with me if it turns out Biden is corrupt and goes to jail if so. I'd be disappointed, but wouldn't be calling for rioting.

But yeah, Chuck doesn't have the evidence and he also doesn't have a whistleblower who has the evidence. Because it's extremely unlikely that such evidence exists as its never been produced. And Grassley has been proven again and again to be a doddering old fool...emphasis on fool.

Yes, look at your sources before you re-post disinformation campaigns...sometimes it's actually clear as a bell.
FBI admitting the 1023's and whistleblower are real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmDQPGEbnc
And also that 280 thousand queries into American citizens were all " unintentional" :D You almost start to feel sorry for this FBI guy. He just had is ass handed to him and he knew it.
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Keep dreaming guys.

The likelihood of the allegations being proven as true are super low.

None of this is remotely close.

As earlier stated, if Joe Biden actually did take a $5-10 million bribe, we'd want to know and he should go to jail...but none of this is remotely close to proof of such.

And boy, Hawley is such a jerk.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:17 am Keep dreaming guys.

The likelihood of the allegations being proven as true are super low.

None of this is remotely close.

As earlier stated, if Joe Biden actually did take a $5-10 million bribe, we'd want to know and he should go to jail...but none of this is remotely close to proof of such.

And boy, Hawley is such a jerk.
You have turned into a shill for the establishment, and you may be the only one who does not see it.

Right in front of your eyes and ears, the FBI is shown to have screwed up and your response it to put down cradle and I, call Hawley a name, ignore proof the 1023's have whistleblower's life in jeopardy....clearly from the democratic side of the street and not even acknowledge the FBI screwed up, by the jerk you don't like.

I'm am afraid if you acknowledge the FBI screwed up with Wray being caught red handed, in completely screws up 1000's of post by you defending them.

Carry on... :lol:
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